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JaedenZentalinDeron
06-08-2009, 01:36 AM
This is my nooby build

Strength (STR): 91 (20) ... 97 (23)
Constitution (CON): 96 (23) ... 94 (22)
Dexterity (DEX): 91 (25) ... 91 (25)
Agility (AGI): 87 (33) ... 87 (33)
Discipline (DIS): 96 (8) ... 96 (8)
Aura (AUR): 91 (25) ... 91 (25)
Logic (LOG): 93 (21) ... 93 (21)
Intuition (INT): 91 (20) ... 91 (20)
Wisdom (WIS): 97 (23) ... 97 (23)
Influence (INF): 81 (25) ... 85 (27)


Skill name Mnemonic Ranks
Shadow Mastery smastery 5
Specialization I wspec1 5
Coup de Grace coupdegrace 5
Combat Mobility mobility 2
Combat Toughness toughness 1
Surge of Strength surge 5
Evade Mastery emastery 1

Available Combat Maneuver Training Points: 2
Number of days remaining in your current 30-day unlearning cycle: 29 days

Armor Use..........................| 210 110
Shield Use.........................| 200 100
Combat Maneuvers...................| 252 152
Edged Weapons......................| 252 152
Ambush.............................| 252 152
Multi Opponent Combat..............| 120 30
Physical Fitness...................| 193 93
Dodging............................| 226 126
Stalking and Hiding................| 252 152
Perception.........................| 181 81
Climbing...........................| 136 38
Swimming...........................| 45 9


Deron, your Armor Specialization training is as follows:

Skill name Mnemonic Ranks
Armored Evasion evasion 3
Armored Stealth stealth 1

481 AS with wiz str + surge + coup de grace AS bonus

COL

Dhuul
06-08-2009, 11:28 AM
waste of $400

JaedenZentalinDeron
06-08-2009, 01:11 PM
well i trained him up from level 65 so i know pretty much what i need to get to hunt well

Dhuul
06-08-2009, 01:16 PM
MoC or ambush or both?!

JaedenZentalinDeron
06-09-2009, 02:43 PM
the MoC is very useful for situations with multiple critter and also an mstrike is very useful sometimes especially in grimswarm or invasions. the 30 ranks is for the focused mstrike which is very useful to me sometimes if i cannot hide or i need to just finish something off.

~Drew

Gibreficul
06-09-2009, 06:04 PM
the MoC is very useful for situations with multiple critter and also an mstrike is very useful sometimes especially in grimswarm or invasions. the 30 ranks is for the focused mstrike which is very useful to me sometimes if i cannot hide or i need to just finish something off.

~Drew

I, personally, can't wait for my first focused mstrike attack. feint, focused mstrike... good times.

Oh, and with that build, MOC/AMBUSH ranks aren't your major concern. You're overdone in shield, underdone in dodge. Unless you're using a medium/large shield, I'd go 2x dodge, 1x shield, and... no self-respecting rogue has less than 2x ambush, especially melee. AS is secondary to getting that full DS pushdown. Also, with all that armor, I'll assume you're in MBP, so evasion mastery is a giant waste of CMAN points.

Gib

DaCapn
06-09-2009, 06:24 PM
Your armor situation looks a bit strange. You've got 110 ranks so presumably, you're into AG5 (MBP+, or maybe even in hauberk). Both armored stealth and evade mastery are pretty much useless for you either way. Especially since you have armored evasion at 3 ranks.

Did we ever find out whether evade mastery benefits from armored evasion? Or does it operate off of AG and not AP? In that case it would be useful to take armored evasion AND evade mastery.