Redux question

[Frostravin]

Ok so i havent been in game since the conversion and i was directed to "help dfredux" theres a formula on there for dux but it doesnt give a percentage so now im confused.

dfredux = [primary skills + weapon skills - spell penalty - special_1]


my train 47 warrior

Two Weapon Combat..................| 198 98
Armor Use..........................| 198 98
Shield Use.........................| 198 98
Combat Maneuvers...................| 149 49
Edged Weapons......................| 198 98
Brawling...........................| 198 98
Ambush.............................| 198 98
Multi Opponent Combat..............| 35 7
Physical Fitness...................| 150 50
Dodging............................| 150 50
Arcane Symbols.....................| 120 30
Magic Item Use.....................| 120 30
Perception.........................| 150 50
Climbing...........................| 90 20
Swimming...........................| 90 20


any able to tell me what the dux would be like?

[Edited on 3-3-2004 by Frostravin]

[Bobmuhthol]

Get attacked, it's the most convenient way.

[Latrinsorm]

Singled in PF probably means you have piss poor dux. Although you are level 47. I dunno, it's not going to be spectacular or even good. Feel free to provide hits, and I (or more likely Bob) will provide you with your redux. Just stay away from damage weighting/padding because no matter how many times I hear Stray say it, I still don't believe you can calculate redux with all those extra hp's floating around.

edit: the help file is (badly) out of date. PF is the only primary, then there's a bunch of secondaries, then weapon skills. See the website play.net, that should help.

[Edited on 3-3-2004 by Latrinsorm]

[Bobmuhthol]

That has to be the shittiest warrior ever, I didn't even notice he singled.

>
Bobmuhthol (at level 24), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Armor Use..........................| 162 62
Combat Maneuvers...................| 152 52
Two-Handed Weapons.................| 152 52
Multi Opponent Combat..............| 25 5
Physical Fitness...................| 155 55
Dodging............................| 152 52
Harness Power......................| 25 5
Survival...........................| 93 21
Perception.........................| 105 25
Climbing...........................| 50 10
Swimming...........................| 50 10
First Aid..........................| 105 25
Trading............................| 140 40
Training Points: 18 Phy 30 Mnt
(Use SKILLS BASE to display unmodified ranks and goals)
>

That's an example of 16% redux.

[Latrinsorm]

Originally posted by Bobmuhthol
I didn't even notice he singled.Coming from the guy who didn't triple in anything. If you're not tripling in anything and you're a warrior, you're le suck.

<--- is tripling in three skills.

[Bobmuhthol]

Actually, I'm le not wasting TPs. Note the 200+ extra points I dumped into Trading.

Plus I'm sure my character is far more efficient anyway.

[Latrinsorm]

Originally posted by Bobmuhthol
Actually, I'm le not wasting TPs. Note the 200+ extra points I dumped into Trading.Oh, yeah, you got me there.
Plus I'm sure my character is far more efficient anyway. If by efficient you mean is crappy in combat, sure. Let's me and you go hunt some frost giants and see how long we last (you have to be in a different room, though). I'd bet 500k I last longer than you, barring competitive interference.

[Frostravin]

A skeletal lord thrusts with a splintered lance at you!
AS: +276 vs DS: +201 with AvD: +32 + d100 roll: +98 = +205
... and hits for 20 points of damage!
Minor puncture to the right arm.

A skeletal lord thrusts with a splintered lance at you!
AS: +276 vs DS: +194 with AvD: +32 + d100 roll: +67 = +181
... and hits for 16 points of damage!
Minor puncture to the right arm.

A skeletal lord thrusts with a splintered lance at you!
AS: +276 vs DS: +200 with AvD: +32 + d100 roll: +55 = +163
... and hits for 14 points of damage!
Minor puncture to the right leg.

laying down =>
A skeletal lord thrusts with a splintered lance at you!
AS: +274 vs DS: +91 with AvD: +32 + d100 roll: +48 = +263
... and hits for 31 points of damage!
Minor puncture to the abdomen.


all were minors

[Bobmuhthol]

All right, then lets take the same test, where it's both of us getting hacked by a plain weapon, and we'll see who survives longer.

Signs + hauberk + redux + 245 HP = Tank. I'm exactly what a warrior is supposed to be.

[Bobmuhthol]

Attack 1: 53.74149660%
Attack 2: 54.14462081%
Attack 3: 59.18367347%
Attack 4: 54.42594216%

Average Redux: 55.37393326%

[Artha]

Hell, I'll help you guys test your redux. Just tell me and my bow where to line up.

[Soulpieced]

Armor Use..........................| 170 70
Shield Use.........................| 170 70
Combat Maneuvers...................| 170 70
Blunt Weapons......................| 170 70
Multi Opponent Combat..............| 25 5
Physical Fitness...................| 170 70
Dodging............................| 170 70
Arcane Symbols.....................| 50 10
Magic Item Use.....................| 50 10
Harness Power......................| 50 10
Perception.........................| 70 15
Climbing...........................| 50 10
Swimming...........................| 50 10

Spell Lists
Minor Elemental....................| 1

Spell Lists
Minor Spirit.......................| 3
Training Points: 8 Phy 12 Mnt

[Bobmuhthol]

THIS IS NOT POST YOUR STATS DAY, SOULPIECED.

[Hulkein]

Hulkein (at level 28), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Armor Use..........................| 182 82
Combat Maneuvers...................| 160 60
Two-Handed Weapons.................| 160 60
Ambush.............................| 120 30
Physical Fitness...................| 165 65
Dodging............................| 159 59
Harness Power......................| 20 4
Perception.........................| 117 29
Climbing...........................| 70 15
Swimming...........................| 74 16
First Aid..........................| 70 15
Training Points: 0 Phy 50 Mnt (272 Mnt converted to Phy)

[Hulkein]

Wear breastplate pansy.

[Frostravin]

hmm so PT plays a major part in redux im assuming from what everyone is saying.

[Artha]

It's the main factor now.

[Bobmuhthol]

He didn't even thank me for wasting five minutes of my life.

[Latrinsorm]

Originally posted by Bobmuhthol
He didn't even thank me for wasting five minutes of my life. Unleash the fury of the Trading skill upon him. :yes:

[Reyek]

trade him to death!

[Frostravin]

thanks for the headsup, will be adjusting that. cause thats less dux then i had when i was 35 in gs3