Testing

[GSLeloo]

Ok so let's say you are in a relationship. You are your significant other have been going out for a few months. You deeply care about each other and are ready to have sex. Your significant other asks you to get tested for STDs and Aids... how do you react?

[Trinitis]

Ok, when do we go? :)

-Adredrin

[Bobmuhthol]

I fuck her anyway. Screw her and her tests.

[GSLeloo]

I'm saying that she says "I will not sleep with you until you get this test done."

[HarmNone]

I would smile and say how glad I am to have found someone intelligent with whom I am compatible. Then, I would tell him/her that I will be happy to make an appointment for both of us. :)

HarmNone

[Artha]

I'd agree. Except clymidia (or however it's spelled). I hear for that one, they [stop reading if you are easily grossed out] shove something similar to one of those umbrellas you get in a drink up your rectum, open it, then pull it out. Ouch. No thanks.

[GSLeloo]

Artha, um.. most girls over the age of eighteen probably wouldn't care about that one.

[Bobmuhthol]

<<I'm saying that she says "I will not sleep with you until you get this test done.">>

I'm aware of that. I'd still fuck her.

[GSLeloo]

You'd rape her?

[Bobmuhthol]

I wouldn't go as far as to say rape, maybe.. influence.

[Artha]

Artha, um.. most girls over the age of eighteen probably wouldn't care about that one.

I was saying for me personally, not as a girl.

[GSLeloo]

Oh yeah, a guy couldn't really take that... ask my dad about the test he had for his prostate.. it happened like 4 years ago and he STILL talks about it.

[Artha]

I live in fear of 40 (age of the prostate exam, also: The Hill)

[GSLeloo]

Yeah, you do for a reason... make sure you bring someone with you to drive you home and they'll give you something for it. My dad went alone cause he didn't want my mom to come. He had it done TWICE.

[Ravenstorm]

Originally posted by HarmNone
I would smile and say how glad I am to have found someone intelligent with whom I am compatible. Then, I would tell him/her that I will be happy to make an appointment for both of us. :)

HarmNone

Even for a pagan, she's a smart one.

Raven

[Artha]

I figure by the time I'm 40, they'll have...non-invasive things. Hopefully.

[Xcalibur]

test = an invitation to make love the good old way

=

good

[Ravenstorm]

There's a difference between a prostate exam and a colonoscopy. I believe it's the latter that they usually give you a general for.

Raven

[Miss X]

I asked my ex to get checked out before we had sex, because he had slept with more women than I felt comfortable with, and some without protection. He was fine about it, although he felt the need to describe the process to me in graphic detail.
The thing is, anyone can get an STD, it doesnt matter how clean etc they look. My best friend who is very careful had a routine check up and found she had one, she didnt think she was the 'type' but it made me very aware of the fact that I should be extra careful.
If the guy refuses to have the tests than he isn't worth sleeping with in my opinion.

[Ravenstorm]

Originally posted by Xcalibur
test = an invitation to make love the good old way

=

good

= moronic.

Sorry but there's still the risk of pregnancy. And you can be HIV+ and still not test positive for as much as six months after being infected.

Raven

[Bobmuhthol]

<<If the guy refuses to have the tests than he isn't worth sleeping with in my opinion.>>

More like if the chick refuses if the guy doesn't get the test then she isn't worth sleeping with.

[Hulkein]

How is it moronic if she's on the pill? Assuming she doesn't have aids.

[Edited on 2-22-2004 by Hulkein]

[GSLeloo]

I will date the guy for six months and then make him get tested. I'm smart.

[HarmNone]

Heh. I have to keep those mental wheels well oiled, Raven. I am only a few steps ahead of the witch-hunters most of the time. ;)

HarmNone, on the run

[Miss X]

Originally posted by Bobmuhthol
<<If the guy refuses to have the tests than he isn't worth sleeping with in my opinion.>>

More like if the chick refuses if the guy doesn't get the test then she isn't worth sleeping with.

:lol: If I asked a guy and he refused there would be no way in hell that I would sleep with him so whether I was worth sleeping with or not wouldn't be an issue.

[Miss X]

Originally posted by Hulkein
How is it moronic if she's on the pill? Assuming she doesn't have aids.

[Edited on 2-22-2004 by Hulkein]

The moronic part is assuming she doesn't have aids...

[Skirmisher]

Hulkein means well i'm sure, but is speaking from limited experience is all.

Asking for a test is a good thing and anyone who would take great offense at such a request just isn't worth the time or agrivation in my opinion.

[Latrinsorm]

If I was in a relationship with a woman with whom I was ready to have sex with, I doubt very much a logical request would cause me to fly off the handle and break it off. But I'm old-fashioned.

In short, yes, I would get tested (so would she).

[GSLeloo]

Oh I'm saying you haven't had sex yet. You've waited and she wants you tested before you do.

[Latrinsorm]

Originally posted by GSLeloo
Oh I'm saying you haven't had sex yet. You've waited and she wants you tested before you do. Same response.

[Mint]

Originally posted by GSLeloo
I will date the guy for six months and then make him get tested. I'm smart.

This is assuming that you spend 24/7 with the guy. Because, really, how can you be positive he hasnt slept with anyone else thereby negating that 6 month wait?

[MPSorc]

well, i would say that it is a good idea to be tested even without being asked so you can have sex, there are pleanty of diseases that you can catch without having sex but can be transmitted through sex and alot of the STD tests will pick up on these as well. ill give an example, i was told by a doctor that i needed to be tested for clamidia (sp) when i was last in Korea, and i had informed him immediately that i had in no way shape or form had any kind of sexual activity while i was there (married, wife in the states) and he told me that clamidia (sp) is a bacteria based infection and it is common, especially present in dirt and what not, and since we dig big holes in the ground and sometimes lay in them for several hours at a time, that i ran a good chance of having it, luckily i didn't, but i still had to get the worst medical experience of my life. ill stop it here as not to get too personal.

[Myshel]

Get tested and still make the guy wear a condom for 6 months. Test again. If he isn't willing to do that for his own safety too, you don't need him. If you have doubts about his fidelity that 6 months will tell a lot.

[Edaarin]

You have to keep in mind though that testing positive for an STD doesn't automatically indicate that it's someone that's really active. My sophomore year in high school about half the varsity wrestling team got some form of herpes (though I think symptoms were limited to the facial area), and I'm pretty sure that bacterial STDs like chlamydia can also be transferred nonsexually.

You should still get tested of course...and do yourself a favor, ask for the urine sample analysis when testing for chlamydia/gonorrhea (sp).

[longshot]

Originally posted by GSLeloo
I will date the guy for six months and then make him get tested. I'm smart.

Six months??

He'll be so frustrated with your nunnery that he's going to bang the first thing with a heartbeat. This is where he will get an STD, and then pass it on to you.

You are causing the spread of disease by witholding sex.

[Myshel]

Originally posted by longshot

Originally posted by GSLeloo
I will date the guy for six months and then make him get tested. I'm smart.

Six months??

He'll be so frustrated with your nunnery that he's going to bang the first thing with a heartbeat. This is where he will get an STD, and then pass it on to you.

You are causing the spread of disease by witholding sex.

Love doesn't happen on the first date, thats lust. If you have genuine feelings for someone and want to spend your life with them, wouldn't waiting for that person give you clues about their character. You can get laid anytime, but I think that statement tells you more about your character than Leloo's.

[Hulkein]

Originally posted by Mint
This is assuming that you spend 24/7 with the guy. Because, really, how can you be positive he hasnt slept with anyone else thereby negating that 6 month wait?

Well what about when you're getting married? You can never be 100% certain about it obviously since you can't follow someone around 24/7. We're obviously talking about a trusting relationship here. If I'm going out for a girl for six months, we get tested, and she goes on the pill, it's just as safe as if we were married if the trust is there, and for me to go out with a girl for a long period of time requires trust, as I'm sure is the case for most people here.

[Edited on 2-22-2004 by Hulkein]

[Weedmage Princess]

I don't see anything wrong with it...If I were dating someone and they wanted me tested, I'd do it with no issues other than a snide comment here and there, moreso just to bust the person's chops as opposed to actually having a problem with it. Then again I know I have nothing to worry about..heh.

If the person cares enough about their partner and the relationship, I feel they'd be willing to make a few sacrifices..be it checking their pride at the door and taking the test, and foregoing sex for a little bit. That's just my opinion, though

[Reyek]

*Gets tested regularly, even though im not very sexually active*

Sooner you know the better right?



[Edited on 2-22-2004 by Reyek]

[GSLeloo]

That's very good thinking, Reyek. I really don't understand why anyone would refuse to get tested if it would make their partner happy and perhaps alert them to something they could have that could be potentially life threatening.

But then again I remember hearing about the guy that had AIDS and kept sleeping with women and not telling them. I guess he figured if he was going out, he wasn't going alone.

[Hulkein]

That's fucked up, I can't believe someone would actually do that.

[GSLeloo]

My mom told me in africa the men with AIDS believe the way to cure it is to sleep with virgins. So they rape virgin girls.

[Warriorbird]

If she was worth it. It would've made me break it off with some girls that I wasn't really all that serious about.

[Bobmuhthol]

<<My mom told me in africa the men with AIDS believe the way to cure it is to sleep with virgins. So they rape virgin girls.>>

And who are you to disagree with them? Also, at least respect their continent by capitalizing the name.

[Meos]

Testing is the smart thing to do, until it's done, keep it wraped up.

[Mint]

Originally posted by Hulkein

Originally posted by Mint
This is assuming that you spend 24/7 with the guy. Because, really, how can you be positive he hasnt slept with anyone else thereby negating that 6 month wait?

Well what about when you're getting married? You can never be 100% certain about it obviously since you can't follow someone around 24/7.

That is exactly the point I was making. You can never be 100 percent certain and a 6 month wait is no guarantee of anything. Maybe in a perfect world but, newsflash, this is not one.

[HarmNone]

Originally posted by Hulkein
That's fucked up, I can't believe someone would actually do that.

Heh. Give it time, Hulkein. You will see much in this world that you cannot believe.

HarmNone

[Hulkein]

Originally posted by Mint
That is exactly the point I was making. You can never be 100 percent certain and a 6 month wait is no guarantee of anything. Maybe in a perfect world but, newsflash, this is not one.

I know, I was hinging my point off of yours... The options are either A) Have sex for the rest of your life even with your wife with a condom out of fear that she may have untested AIDS or B) Once you're both tested, and you trust the person, have sex with her on the pill.

[Mint]

Oh, you were agreeing with me....and here I was all ready to draw a line in the sand and do battle. Guess I need to learn to read better. And quit kicking my feet out from under me! I was all geared up damn you.

[Kat]

What was that whole thing about over-eighteen-females not caring about the chlamydia test as opposed to males? Maybe I missed something.....

[Jonty]

Originally posted by GSLeloo
I will date the guy for six months and then make him get tested. I'm smart.

Not smart, just too trusting.:P