Enhancives for Enchanting: Edged Bonusing Edged

[crb]

Don't like the prices? Don't buy them.

I value these as the difference between the weapon at 7x, and whatever it'd be if it were enchanted to the point of which the enhancive reaches. Ie, a +10 edged weapon would be valued at the difference in value between a 7x and a 9x, plus the value of the other enhancives.

all are available in Leopaldu's shop in Mist Harbor. from the arch N N go lime store

Consider this as well. Two weapon combat. One could weild two edged bonuses edged weapons and the bonus would of course apply to both. If you bought my moon axe and my handaxe for instance and enchanted both up to 7x they'd both be nearly 10x when used together. Plus with the dodging and agility bonuses they'd act like defender weapons to boot. Also, remember, you can get enhancive conversions at CCF, if you're on the last run.



Looking closely at the imflass moon axe, you see that it will cost 13000000 coins.
It imparts a bonus of +12 more than usual.
It provides a bonus of 6 to Edged Weapons Ranks.
This enhancement may not be used by adventurers who have not trained 42 times.
It provides a bonus of 1 to Armor Use Ranks.
This enhancement may not be used by adventurers who have not trained 4 times.
It provides a bonus of 6 to Max Stamina.
This enhancement may not be used by adventurers who have not trained 13 times.
It provides a bonus of 7 to Max Health.
This enhancement may not be used by adventurers who have not trained 11 times.
The axe looks to have a lot of charges remaining.
You can PULL the imflass moon axe to remove it from the inventory.



Looking closely at the vultite handaxe, you see that it will cost 16000000 coins.
It imparts a bonus of +20 more than usual.
It provides a bonus of 5 to Agility Bonus.
This enhancement may not be used by adventurers who have not trained 33 times.
It provides a bonus of 5 to Mental Lore - Telepathy Bonus.
This enhancement may not be used by adventurers who have not trained 15 times.
It provides a bonus of 8 to Edged Weapons Bonus.
This enhancement may not be used by adventurers who have not trained 22 times.
The handaxe looks to have quite a few charges remaining.
You can PULL the vultite handaxe to remove it from the inventory.




Looking closely at the vaalorn handaxe, you see that it will cost 12000000 coins.
It imparts a bonus of +18 more than usual.
It provides a bonus of 8 to Dodging Bonus.
This enhancement may not be used by adventurers who have not trained 22 times.
It provides a bonus of 5 to Edged Weapons Bonus.
This enhancement may not be used by adventurers who have not trained 9 times.
The handaxe looks to have more than your average giantman could count charges remaining.
You can PULL the vaalorn handaxe to remove it from the inventory.




Looking closely at the mithglin broadsword, you see that it will cost 8000000 coins.
It imparts a bonus of +15 more than usual.
It provides a bonus of 6 to Edged Weapons Bonus.
This enhancement may not be used by adventurers who have not trained 13 times.
The broadsword looks to have a huge number of charges remaining.
You can PULL the mithglin broadsword to remove it from the inventory.

Finally, a dodging bonusing gauche for people who want to use one with two weapon combat.



Looking closely at the imflass main gauche, you see that it will cost 2000000 coins.
It imparts a bonus of +12 more than usual.
It is a holy item.
It is temporarily blessed against the undead.
It provides a bonus of 4 to Dodging Bonus.
The gauche looks to have more than your average giantman could count charges remaining.
You can PULL the imflass main gauche to remove it from the inventory.

[Inspire]

Just curious, who do you think is going to buy these weapons to enchant them?

Taking a look at #1 ... You want someone to pay 13m for a +12 weapon that grants:

It provides a bonus of 1 to Armor Use Ranks.
This enhancement may not be used by adventurers who have not trained 4 times.
It provides a bonus of 6 to Max Stamina.
This enhancement may not be used by adventurers who have not trained 13 times.
It provides a bonus of 7 to Max Health.
This enhancement may not be used by adventurers who have not trained 11 times.


It would end up a +32 weapon, with +6 to OHE ranks, making it +38 with crappy enhancives. A less than 8x weapon doesn't go for 13m.

[Izzy]

Just curious, who do you think is going to buy these weapons to enchant them?

Taking a look at #1 ... You want someone to pay 13m for a +12 weapon that grants:

It provides a bonus of 1 to Armor Use Ranks.
This enhancement may not be used by adventurers who have not trained 4 times.
It provides a bonus of 6 to Max Stamina.
This enhancement may not be used by adventurers who have not trained 13 times.
It provides a bonus of 7 to Max Health.
This enhancement may not be used by adventurers who have not trained 11 times.


It would end up a +32 weapon, with +6 to OHE ranks, making it +38 with crappy enhancives. A less than 8x weapon doesn't go for 13m.

Don't like the prices? Don't buy them.

(btw, I agree with you)

[Methais]

Just curious, who do you think is going to buy these weapons to enchant them?

Taking a look at #1 ... You want someone to pay 13m for a +12 weapon that grants:

It provides a bonus of 1 to Armor Use Ranks.
This enhancement may not be used by adventurers who have not trained 4 times.
It provides a bonus of 6 to Max Stamina.
This enhancement may not be used by adventurers who have not trained 13 times.
It provides a bonus of 7 to Max Health.
This enhancement may not be used by adventurers who have not trained 11 times.


It would end up a +32 weapon, with +6 to OHE ranks, making it +38 with crappy enhancives. A less than 8x weapon doesn't go for 13m.

+38 is technically considered 8x.

[Inspire]

Don't like the prices? Don't buy them.

(btw, I agree with you)

I didn't intend to be a dick about it, I just want to know who he thinks is going to buy those weapons for that amount and then invest a LOT of time into making them into something people would want to spend that much money on.

Yah it might END UP an 8x weapon, but you've paid for an 8x weapon now and you have to spend 6 months taking it from +12 to +32, IF you can even temper it once it gets to +25 or higher. (Enchanting enhancives looks to be very difficult).

Don't take this as a rain on your parade as much as a .. did you think about it from this angle?

[m444w]

Besides the obvious time sinks, there is another thing he is failing to account for, that the +50 to edged combat can come from any sort of item (torc, earring, whatever). And anyone with 12 mill to spend on this is going to rather spend their silvers on maxing that +50 via worn items, and then buying the highest enchant weapon they can, which is not only cheaper (you don't have to pay for this stuff and then enchant it yourself), 7x or (8x if you get lucky) weapon + whatever enchancives you want to buy = 8x or greater weapon for cheaper than this and sooner than this.

[Ryvicke]

Yeah I was really thinking about this as well--like you're paying for the *possibility* of a +38 weapon with two moderately useful enhancives. It's kind of a fun idea that ALL enhancive items can now be sold with the *possibility* of being 7x weapons/armor/shields/runestaves. It just took one dbag to start it up (literally 1 week after the recipe was discovered).

[crb]

Besides the obvious time sinks, there is another thing he is failing to account for, that the +50 to edged combat can come from any sort of item (torc, earring, whatever). And anyone with 12 mill to spend on this is going to rather spend their silvers on maxing that +50 via worn items, and then buying the highest enchant weapon they can, which is not only cheaper (you don't have to pay for this stuff and then enchant it yourself), 7x or (8x if you get lucky) weapon + whatever enchancives you want to buy = 8x or greater weapon for cheaper than this and sooner than this.
Pin worn weapon skill bonusing items are sold for as much as 3m per +. Especially with someone like Izzy bidding on them. So assuming there exists +50 in pin worns available, the person is spending 150m to get there, but it is cheaper?

I have three enchanting wizards. My plan is to enchant these up myself, take them to merchant events, get them flared or pimped out (something that'll be possible because they'll technically be 7x, and so able to be worked on, standard merchants tend to draw the line at 7x or 8x, so that 9x or 10x weapon you got is not getting flared or weighted unless you go to CCF and spend 50 million on it), and then sell them.

However, assuming someone else wants to do the same. I've put them up for sale. I'll take some profit now as opposed to more profit later, 35th rule of acquisitions.

These prices aren't hard and fast, I might be able to be bargained down by 10 or 20%, Perhaps more on the moon axe, though I still think it is going to be nice for sunfist. probably not on the vultite handaxe though.

[crb]

Yeah I was really thinking about this as well--like you're paying for the *possibility* of a +38 weapon with two moderately useful enhancives. It's kind of a fun idea that ALL enhancive items can now be sold with the *possibility* of being 7x weapons/armor/shields/runestaves. It just took one dbag to start it up (literally 1 week after the recipe was discovered).
Cause enchanting wizards are so uncommon.

The value of the start weapon is the value of the end weapon minus the cost to create it. The unknown was the potion, turns out it is going to be fairly cheap to make.

I honestly wouldn't expect a swinger to buy these, I would expect a wizard to, or a swinger with a wizard, or a wizard with a swinger.

[Ryvicke]

I should edit the post to say enhancive items with requisite enhancives that could be considered additions to the final enchant of the item.

[NocturnalRob]

I honestly wouldn't expect a swinger to buy these, I would expect a wizard to, or a swinger with a wizard, or a wizard with a swinger.
so many swingers...
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