Noob bard question

[Incurable]

Ok So I decided that I like the whole bard idea and created one. But I'm having an issue with a spell of mine. I am eight trainings and I have trained in spell 1008, the issue is that when I try to prep it, it says I don't know spell 1008. I was wondering, do I need to train in an accompanying skill to get access to it, do I need to get professional training from a guild, or is it really a bug?

[Kitsun]

Paste exp, skills and a log of it happening?

[Incurable]

That will have to wait until I get home around 6pm. Can't access GS through stupid work computers.

[Lockrebezz]

When you get home do type spell and if it says Bard Base.........8 and you are level 8 you should be able to cast it, and should talk to a GM if that is the case.
There isn't any other training requirements for the spell besides know it.

[Incurable]

Here is my character sheet.

Race: Elf Profession: Bard (Post name shown as: Songsmith)
Level: 8 Gender: Female Age: 30

Experience:
Experience: 79695 Next level at: 92500 exp.
Exp. until next lvl: 12805
Fame: 25775 Deeds: 19 Deaths this level: 0
Your mind is as clear as a bell.

Wealth:
Silvers: 758 coins

Skills:
Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Armor Use..........................| 50 10
Shield Use.........................| 50 10
Combat Maneuvers...................| 40 8
Edged Weapons......................| 50 10
Two-Handed Weapons.................| 50 10
Physical Fitness...................| 45 9
Arcane Symbols.....................| 45 9
Magic Item Use.....................| 45 9
Harness Power......................| 45 9
Mental Lore - Divination...........| 10 2
Mental Lore - Manipulation.........| 35 7
Survival...........................| 45 9
Perception.........................| 45 9
Climbing...........................| 40 8
Swimming...........................| 40 8
First Aid..........................| 40 8

Spell Lists
Minor Elemental....................| 2

Spell Lists
Bard...............................| 7
Training Points: 10 Phy 17 Mnt
(Use SKILLS BASE to display unmodified ranks and goals)

12 days remain until the annual FIXSKILLS is to be granted, on 05/20/2009.

You started this migration period on Saturday, 5/2/2009 at 14:56:07 EDT. You have 23 days, 19 hours, 32 minutes remaining in your current 30 day migration period.

You're currently migrating at a rate of .010 skill points per pulse, and have converted 15.100 training points this migration period.

Further information can be found in the FAQs.

Spell Ranks:
Minor Elemental :2
Bard Base :7

Stats: Normal (Bonus) ... Enhanced (Bonus)
Strength (STR): 74 (12) ... 74 (12)
Constitution (CON): 72 (11) ... 72 (11)
Dexterity (DEX): 39 (0) ... 39 (0)
Agility (AGL): 31 (6) ... 31 (6)
Discipline (DIS): 90 (5) ... 90 (5)
Aura (AUR): 100 (30) ... 100 (30)
Logic (LOG): 93 (21) ... 93 (21)
Intuition (INT): 29 (-10) ... 29 (-10)
Wisdom (WIS): 72 (11) ... 72 (11)
Influence (INF): 99 (34) ... 99 (34)

And here is the skill Manager.

Minor Elemental Spell Research
Recover 0 / 17
Ranks 2 Current Spell Presence Cost 0 / 34 Next Spell Lock Pick Enhancement


Bard Spellsongs Research
Recover 0 / 17
Ranks 8 Current Spell Stunning Shout Cost 0 / 34 Next Spell Sonic Shield Song




Thats the odd part, according to skill manager I have already purchased my level 8 spell, but it doesn't show up on my character sheet.

[Celephais]

Type skill base, you're probably converting.

[Incurable]

Your right, I got rid of my divination ranks. I didn't realize that it wold interfere with learning spells.

(at level 8), your base skill bonuses, ranks and goals are:
Skill Name | Actual Actual
| Bonus Ranks Goals In-Game Time to Goal
Armor Use..........................| 50 10 10
Shield Use.........................| 50 10 10
Combat Maneuvers...................| 40 8 8
Edged Weapons......................| 50 10 10
Two-Handed Weapons.................| 50 10 10
Physical Fitness...................| 45 9 9
Arcane Symbols.....................| 45 9 9
Magic Item Use.....................| 45 9 9
Harness Power......................| 45 9 9
Mental Lore - Divination...........| 10 2.614 0 17 hours, 25 minutes
Mental Lore - Manipulation.........| 35 7 7
Survival...........................| 45 9 9
Perception.........................| 45 9 9
Climbing...........................| 40 8 8
Swimming...........................| 40 8 8
First Aid..........................| 40 8 8

Spell Lists
Minor Elemental....................| 2 2

Spell Lists
Bard...............................| 8 8
Training Points: 18 Phy 27 Mnt

[Lockrebezz]

Your right, I got rid of my divination ranks. I didn't realize that it wold interfere with learning spells.

(at level 8), your base skill bonuses, ranks and goals are:
Skill Name | Actual Actual
| Bonus Ranks Goals In-Game Time to Goal
Armor Use..........................| 50 10 10
Shield Use.........................| 50 10 10
Combat Maneuvers...................| 40 8 8
Edged Weapons......................| 50 10 10
Two-Handed Weapons.................| 50 10 10
Physical Fitness...................| 45 9 9
Arcane Symbols.....................| 45 9 9
Magic Item Use.....................| 45 9 9
Harness Power......................| 45 9 9
Mental Lore - Divination...........| 10 2.614 0 17 hours, 25 minutes
Mental Lore - Manipulation.........| 35 7 7
Survival...........................| 45 9 9
Perception.........................| 45 9 9
Climbing...........................| 40 8 8
Swimming...........................| 40 8 8
First Aid..........................| 40 8 8

Spell Lists
Minor Elemental....................| 2 2

Spell Lists
Bard...............................| 8 8
Training Points: 18 Phy 27 Mnt

Ya, just leave your character logged in overnight and it should convert those over before the end of the day.

[Lumi]

WHY would you have Divination ranks? O.o

I assume that's why you were converting them away =P

Is this not a new char? Not in the 30-day insta-migration window anymore?

EDIT: Whoa, just took a closer look. What's up with 1x OHE and 1x THW? Identity crisis?

[mgoddess]

EDIT: Whoa, just took a closer look. What's up with 1x OHE and 1x THW? Identity crisis?
I'd assuming katana usage...

[thefarmer]

1x OHE + 1x THW + 1x CM -10AS from using a katana onehanded=fail

[Lumi]

1x OHE + 1x THW + 1x CM -10AS from using a katana onehanded=fail

This. Katana AS isn't the sum of your OHE and 2HW skills, it's the average (when used as a one-hander). He's effectively 1x'ing his primary weapon skill, no matter what it is.

[Incurable]

Yeah, I was given a Katana so I figured, what the hell, why not.... Alas after hunting and not being able to hit anything, I'm going to be going back to OHE.

[Incurable]

By the way, since the fix stats thing is comming up soon, if yall have ANY more advise, I am more than happy to take it. I know very little about where to put stats and skill to fully utalize the character.

[Danical]

fixskills not stats

[Lumi]

Yeah, I was given a Katana so I figured, what the hell, why not.... Alas after hunting and not being able to hit anything, I'm going to be going back to OHE.

Well, if you want to use the katana (they ARE nice weapons), you absolutely can. You'd just need to drop OHE and go to 2x 2HW and use it in 2-hander mode all the time. There have definitely been bards who used 2-handers all the way to the cap; it's not dissimilar to polearms (though it IS more expensive for a bard).

[Loyrl]

Well, if you want to use the katana (they ARE nice weapons), you absolutely can. You'd just need to drop OHE and go to 2x 2HW and use it in 2-hander mode all the time. There have definitely been bards who used 2-handers all the way to the cap; it's not dissimilar to polearms (though it IS more expensive for a bard).

I have been thinking about it and was wondering if it was worth buying a mithril claid instead of using a sonic lance. I think I'll to stick to the lance when my 30 days are up on my bard. I need to place stats for a pure, but still be able to swing untill I get old enough to be a pure hint hint. Dark Elf, I forgot how bad the spirit regen was after dying, at least now there are a ton more clerics that can use the 5 spirit rez now.

[Lumi]

I have been thinking about it and was wondering if it was worth buying a mithril claid instead of using a sonic lance. I think I'll to stick to the lance when my 30 days are up on my bard. I need to place stats for a pure, but still be able to swing untill I get old enough to be a pure hint hint. Dark Elf, I forgot how bad the spirit regen was after dying, at least now there are a ton more clerics that can use the 5 spirit rez now.

Unless you're swimming in silvers Scrooge McDuck style, I'd go with the free 7x weightless double flaring lance over the expensive-as-hell 1x insanely crit weighted claidh.

YMMV, I admit I've never really tested the two.