Attend Prom = no Graduation?

[Atlanteax]

Let's see those face-palms!!!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090508/ap_on_re_us/us_school_dance_flap



FINDLAY, Ohio – A student at a fundamentalist Baptist school that forbids dancing, rock music, hand-holding and kissing will be suspended if he takes his girlfriend to her public high school prom, his principal said.

Despite the warning, 17-year-old Tyler Frost, who has never been to a dance before, said he plans to attend Findlay High School's prom Saturday.

Frost, a senior at Heritage Christian School in northwest Ohio, agreed to the school's rules when he signed a statement of cooperation at the beginning of the year, principal Tim England said.

The teen, who is scheduled to receive his diploma May 24, would be suspended from classes and receive an "incomplete" on remaining assignments, England said. Frost also would not be permitted to attend graduation but would get a diploma once he completes final exams. If Frost is involved with alcohol or sex at the prom, he will be expelled, England said.

Frost's stepfather Stephan Johnson said the school's rules should not apply outside the classroom.

"He deserves to wear that cap and gown," Johnson said.

Frost said he thought he had handled the situation properly. Findlay requires students from other schools attending the prom to get a signature from their principal, which Frost did.

"I expected a short lecture about making the right decisions and not doing something stupid," Frost said. "I thought I would get his signature and that would be the end."

England acknowledged signing the form but warned Frost there would be consequences if he attended the dance. England then took the issue to a school committee made up of church members, who decided to threaten Frost with suspension.

"In life, we constantly make decisions whether we are going to please self or please God. (Frost) chose one path, and the school committee chose the other," England said.

The handbook for the 84-student Christian school says rock music "is part of the counterculture which seeks to implant seeds of rebellion in young people's hearts and minds."

England said Frost's family should not be surprised by the school's position.

"For the parents to claim any injustice regarding this issue is at best forgetful and at worst disingenuous," he said. "It is our hope that the student and his parents will abide by the policies they have already agreed to."

The principal at Findlay High School, whose graduates include Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger, said he respects, but does not agree with, Heritage Christian School's view of prom.

"I don't see (dancing and rock music) as immoral acts," Craig Kupferberg said.

[radamanthys]

I have something for that committee to consider:

A live hand grenade.

Haha, God gets really ticked about a boy dancing at a school dance? He must REALLY be pissed all the fucking time. I'm surprised he hasn't, say, nuked the shit out of earth or something. If my worshippers were being giant fucktards and pissing me off like that, I'd unleash a god-sized can of whoopass, you better believe it.

[Proxy]

The kid is an idiot, for going to a school as ass back-wards and f'd up as that one sounds. The parents are idiots for paying to send their kid to a sh't hole bible camp like that. The principle is a f'n idiot for trying to force feed morals to his students. The committee are a bunch of f'd up rejects for having the principles back & thinking its alright to force their moral beliefs on others.

I hope they all die in a fire

[Deathravin]

I think I would have taken the thing I signed that I wouldn't do drugs, dance, rock & roll, hand-holding, etc as I wouldn't do them during school. I wouldn't consider them to apply outside school hours.

[CrystalTears]

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[Ignot]

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[Proxy]

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[Jayvn]

I bet Clyder went to that school

[Skeeter]

He chose to go to the school I don't think it's unreasonable that he's expected to follow their rules.

[Bobmuhthol]

He will be expelled if he is "involved with sex"? What the fuck?

[diethx]

He chose to go to the school I don't think it's unreasonable that he's expected to follow their rules.

He chose it, or his parents did? And what sort of school has the right to tell their students what to do when they aren't at school? Isn't that then the parent's decision?

Also, I don't quite understand why the other school would require non-students to provide their principal's signatures. Wouldn't it make more sense to require their PARENT'S signature?

[Bobmuhthol]

<<And what sort of school has the right to tell their students what to do when they aren't at school?>>

Every private school in the United States, but it's still retarded.

<<Also, I don't quite understand why the other school would require non-students to provide their principal's signatures. Wouldn't it make more sense to require their PARENT'S signature?>>

No, because parents don't keep disciplinary records and tend to not give a fuck more than principals.

[diethx]

I seriously don't understand how that's even possible.

[Bobmuhthol]

That private schools have the right to tell their students what to do? They can discriminate against any trait that is not protected by law, and thus can do whatever they want to anyone for any excuse other than gender, sexuality, race, disability, etc. Actions are inherently not a protected class.

[diethx]

No, that private schools have the right to tell their students what to do when they aren't on campus. I honestly don't understand how a school's authority can reach off campus - that should be the parent's domain.

[Bobmuhthol]

... that's what I was talking about. The school still has the same rights.

[BriarFox]

Bob's point is that the school can do whatever the fuck it wants on its campus. That includes barring the student from graduation, etc. It's a private entity. It couldn't lock him in his own house or something, though.

Is it utterly stupid? Absolutely.

[diethx]

... and I said like three times that I think it's crap, and I can't even understand how it can be possible. When a parent pays tens of thousands of dollars for the education, the school shouldn't have a right to expel or suspend a student for something they do off-campus that's totally not school-related.

[Back]

What a great name. Tyler Frost. This kid is a legend in the making.

[Bobmuhthol]

As much as you don't like it, the concept has been around for centuries. It's possible under common law.

Analogously, I am legally a sole proprietor, simply because I said so (there is no paperwork involved). I just banned you from conducting business transactions with my company, but I've never met you.

[diethx]

Maybe I should have clarified my earlier statement. My expression of disbelief wasn't that I didn't actually believe what you were saying. It was more the fact that I can't believe such a practice is allowed in this country.

[Bobmuhthol]

It would be very revolutionary in a very, very bad way if the law changed. If the school didn't have the rights it does, it would literally be forced to do something (in this case, put up with this motherfucker who wants to go to a prom), and that is a huge violation of rights.

[diethx]

Yeah... how dare this motherfucker want to go to a prom. ;)

[Skeeter]

kid or parents it really doesn't matter they entered into a contract. not something I agree with or would do, but as they say.... it is what it is.

[ElanthianSiren]

kid or parents it really doesn't matter they entered into a contract. not something I agree with or would do, but as they say.... it is what it is.

Thought the same to be honest. The school entered into a contract with the kid's parents, who are still his legal guardians. IMO they're the morons for not pausing to think, "Hey our kid might want to make his own choices with regard to music and socializing; maybe we should trust him to do so!"

[Celephais]

IMO they're the morons for not pausing to think, "Hey our kid might want to make his own choices with regard to music and socializing; maybe we should trust him to do so!"
They enrolled him in a private religious institute. I don't think they care what the kid might want to do :(

[Belnia]

I went to a very uppity, very expensive, private Episcopalian high school. They had a lot of the bullshit about "conduct unbecoming of a student attending this school" which basically amounted to, "If you're going to get wasted or high, don't do it in the school uniform please." It was an amazingly unpleasant 4 years, between the people in my class (mostly rich kids, some with already insane drug habits) and the very out-of-touch administration.

Senior prom was great though. One of the Junior girls showed up shitfaced, and puked all over the dance floor before she was sent to the hospital. Good way to clear the floor though.

Edit: Also, most states require a signatory in a contract to be 18 for it to be legally binding. In this case, he just signed a "I'll be a good little boy" paper.

[ViridianAsp]

What I don't get is that they teach these kids, try to instill in them values and morals to not make the wrong choices in the real world according to their religion. To me it looks like they don't have much faith in their own teachings, otherwise if a kid wanted to go to another school's prom they'd have a different tune like:

"We realize you are going to be faced with a lot of tempting choices, ones we've taught you are wrong, but we know that you know which ones are right and wrong; and we trust you to make the right ones."

And just leave it at that. If they truly thought their teachings and faith were worth anything they wouldn't be so up in arms about one kid going out and dancing for one night. This is what I love about baptists though, I grew up in a strict baptist household, my father was just like this and at 16 I moved the fuck out, this just pushes kids away.

[Xeromist]

Holding hands is bad...mmkay?

That's how you were made, anyways. Mom and dad held hands. Then you spawned. It's science.

[Ker_Thwap]

You send your kid to a crazy people school, and you expect them (the school) not to act crazy?

[Stanley Burrell]

Let's see those face-palms!!!

I facepalm at your tie. It is hideous.