Lock difficulty decreases -150 in 5 seconds. Please explain

[NocturnalRob]

I have no idea what happened here, but maybe someone else knows?


>
Mucarluk put an aquamarine wand in his spidersilk backpack.
>take in lock
You remove an etched invar lockpick from in your silver toolkit.
>
.spin2 box muca

[Press the ESCape key to abort script.]
lm ptrick bend my box
put lock in my too
You carefully bend the tip of your invar lockpick slightly, adjusting it for a better angle, before attempting to pick the lock on a badly damaged brass box...
You make a lame attempt (d100=23).
You are not able to pick the box, but you get a sense that it has an impressively complicated lock. About a -930 difficulty lock (in thief-lingo).
Roundtime: 5 sec.
[Script]>...wait 5 seconds.
[Script]>
Mucarluk tosses an enruned fel trunk into the lava tube from a safe distance.
After a short drop a burst of flame issues from the lava tube.
[Script]>

[Script aborted.]
.spin2 box muca

[Press the ESCape key to abort script.]
lm ptrick bend my box
put lock in my too
You carefully bend the tip of your invar lockpick slightly, adjusting it for a better angle, before attempting to pick the lock on a badly damaged brass box...
You make an excellent attempt (d100=97).
You struggle with the box. As you do, you get a sense that the box has a fairly complicated lock (-780 thief-lingo difficulty ranking). Then...CLICK! It opens!
[Script]>You put an etched invar lockpick in your silver toolkit.
[Script]>give box to muca

[Script finished!]
Mucarluk removes a sturdy mithril coffer from in his spidersilk cloak.
>
You offer your brass box to Mucarluk, who has 30 seconds to accept the offer. Type CANCEL to prematurely cancel the offer.

[Mtenda]

wtmf

[NocturnalRob]

wtmf
:yeahthat:

[Asha]

I probably would be able to answer but can't think straight because of the soul glo ad.
Do measurements hugely differ in their ballpark figures of difficulty, ever?
Of the same box, I mean.

[Bhuryn]

I know the reading can be off, but I've never seen a reading be off THAT much. Maybe you can fumble the reading?

[Mtenda]

I don't think so. Oscuro tinkering with the system maybe?

[Some Rogue]

Soul Golem box?

Since he was tossing it into the lava tube, I'd wager I am right.

[NocturnalRob]

yeah, it was a SG box. should that matter?

[Asha]

yeah. They are magical boxes.
Meaning the traps and locks sizes differ massively each attempt for no reason.
I'm capped, and can open nearly any box in game but I avoid those fuckers.

[Some Rogue]

Yes, the lock changes on every attempt.

[SolitareConfinement]

and i've never seen a soul golem box that was trapped either... i was always told they were never trapped...but i always checked just in case

[Some Rogue]

No, they're never trapped.

[NocturnalRob]

ah, well I guess that explains it then. that large of a swing is pretty absurd IMO

[Some Rogue]

Heh, yeah, I just always use my best pick and lore because you never know what you're gonna get.

[Sean of the Thread]

I don't know much about those boxes.

I assume they can't be phased or lightning bolted and since Drayal says he avoids them can they be 407'd?

[SolitareConfinement]

pretty sure they can only be picked...i know they can't be phased or bolted 407 i've never seen but most likely not

[Asha]

They can be 407'd
I have 800 mana at a push and it sometimes isn't enough. That's what I meant.

[Loyrl]

Never trapped, so good for bashing ;)

[SolitareConfinement]

They can be 407'd
I have 800 mana at a push and it sometimes isn't enough. That's what I meant.

you would actually throw 800 fucking mana at a box before deciding it wasn't worth opening?

[Asha]

It was for Akoe and I didn't know at the time that it could change from simple to fucking mega serious lock with every cast.
When I was told it could warp from simple to fucking mega serious lock with every cast I figured it can do the reverse so kept casting.
That, along with OCD and the fact the box was from a fucking SOUL GOLEM and I am capped bitches..
Yeah I'd throw that shit at it.

[Asha]

I got the fuckers in the end though.

[SolitareConfinement]

rofl you sir are one determined individual kudos

[War Angel]

For whatever reason, when I 407 the soul golem boxes alone, it takes FOREVER to get em open, however, if I rapid fire 407 em, they open quickly. Don't know why, just something I noticed when hunting them for the last 10 levels. :|

[m444w]

they are never trapped because the trap slot is taken up by the coding that causes the lock to morph.

[Mtenda]

If picking for someone else I still check though just in case they are mistaken on where it came from.

"Oh yeah I forgot I was hunting pyrothags right before that. Sorry you blew your face off."

[Loyrl]

Heh pickers usually want to know if its from a soul golem so they dont break their picks on them also. I just liked how many reps they gave me for battering though.