Fuck the minotaur altar room. Fuck it right in the ear.

[NocturnalRob]

I've died 9 times on Arasleaf in the past 3 weeks. 8 of those 9 times were because I was caught in a hard RT while pushing the fucking door in minotaurs to get behind the altar.

1) Why the fuck does it take me 4-8 minutes of constant pushing to open this door? I am a half-elf with full STR (bonus of 25).
2) Earlier today I submitted a bug--I was unable to remove any small statues in this room. Move a room over, problem solved.
3) Earlier today I submitted another bug--I was unable to pick up any loot in connected rooms. All loot was left on the ground.
4) I die (and subsequently decayed), and to add insult to injury, when I open my group to ensure another adventurer can grab me...it fucking puts me in RT...when I'm fucking dead.

aaaaand /qq


>push doo
You brace yourself as much as possible and begin to push against the enormous stone doors.
Roundtime: 7 sec.
>
You continue to push against the enormous stone doors with all your strength.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
The enormous stone doors begin to give as they continue to open wider.
>
You continue to push against the enormous stone doors with all your strength.
Roundtime: 9 sec.
With one final groan, the enormous stone doors slowly slide open wide enough for passage.
>stop
You stop pushing on the enormous stone doors first.
Roundtime: 14 sec.

At this point I had a hard RT of 23 seconds, and the minotaur pops out instantaneously.

>
Wisps of white mist flicker around a minotaur magus's thick fingers as he tromps in.
>
A minotaur magus begins rumbling while making mystic gestures through the air.
>
A minotaur magus gestures at you!
CS: +336 - TD: +270 + CvA: +14 + d100: +4 - -5 == +89
Warded off!
>
A minotaur magus begins rumbling while making mystic gestures through the air.
>
A minotaur magus gestures at you!
Particles of dust and soot rise from the floor at a minotaur magus's feet as he releases a pulsating, platinum ripple of energy toward you!
CS: +336 - TD: +270 + CvA: +14 + d100: +69 - -5 == +154
Warding failed!
You are cloaked in a blinding platinum light and assailed for 75 points of damage!
... 35 points of damage!
Fiery blast of plasma blows your leg into a bloody spray!
You fall screaming to the ground grasping your mangled right leg!
You are stunned for 8 rounds!
... 7 points of damage!
Light burns to your leg.

>shout 1040
...wait 9 seconds.
>
shout 1040
...wait 7 seconds.
A minotaur magus begins rumbling while making mystic gestures through the air.
>
shout 1040
...wait 3 seconds.

A minotaur magus gestures at you!
A swirling sonic barrier partially deflects the onslaught of the fiery attack.
A minotaur magus hurls a roaring ball of fire at you!
AS: +344 vs DS: +190 with AvD: +59 + d100 roll: +48 = +261
... and hits for 49 points of damage!
Flames incinerate right arm to the bone. Not a pleasant sight.
The brilliant luminescence fades from around you.
You feel less confident than before.
A faint silvery glow fades from around you.
The tingling sensation and sense of security leaves you.
Your sonic barrier dissipates.
The silvery luminescence fades from around you.
The bright luminescence fades from around you.

It seems you have died, my friend. Although you cannot do anything, you are keenly aware of what is going on around you...

You mentally give a sigh of relief as you remember that the Goddess Lorminstra owes you a favor.

...departing in 10 mins...
The roaring ball of fire strikes you, blossoming into a much larger sphere of flame upon impact.
The minotaur magus roars loudly in triumph, his eyes clouding over with spiritual essence.
>
* Arasleaf just bit the dust!
>
A minotaur magus trots southeast, whispering a silent prayer as he passes.
>
Suddenly you have the strangest feeling that you are being watched.
The feeling fades as quickly as it came.
>
Suddenly you have the strangest feeling that you are being watched.
The feeling fades as quickly as it came.
>
A minotaur magus trots in, whispering a silent prayer.
>'unfucking believable
You say, "Unfucking believable."
>
A minotaur magus trots northeast, whispering a silent prayer as he passes.
>look
[Labyrinth, The Dark Altar]
The tunnel opens into a large, open room. Carpet remnants line the floor, stretching into separate tunnels as they split into different directions. Bronze statues depicting large, cloaked priests rest between each path. You also see a deep blue heater shield, a blackened steel moon axe, a table leg, a chipped dark granite stair and a pair of enormous stone doors.
Obvious exits: northeast, southeast
>group open
You stop pushing on the enormous stone doors first.
You have to rest a moment from your exertion.
Roundtime: 6 sec.

[Sean]

>'unfucking believable
You say, "Unfucking believable."

On the plus side you didn't get a warning.

[HSB]

Screw that. Come on up to the Rift. Plenty of room for all.

[diethx]

I love how he got RT in the beginning of the log for stopping pushing, and then group open gave him another RT for stopping pushing.

[NocturnalRob]

>'unfucking believable
You say, "Unfucking believable."

On the plus side you didn't get a warning.
at this point, i want the warning because it will ensure an interaction with a GM. I started cursing after every death there. So far nothing.

[NocturnalRob]

http://forum.gsplayers.com/images/reputation/reputation_neg.gif Fuck the minotaur altar... 04-29-2009 05:13 PM song of peace, fucking idiot
IT STEMS THE CREATURE GENERATION, YOU FUCKING ANONYMOUS ASSBAG!

[Danical]

While I would have suggested song of peace myself, have you tried using 407 on it?

[NocturnalRob]

doesn't work. i zapped it over 100 times when i first got there. unless i was really fucking unlucky.

[Danical]

Post on the officials about it? Sometimes bugs have better turnaround if you post there.

I'd also ask if it's even possible to 407 the door or if you're just wasting your time trying.

[NocturnalRob]

fuck the officials. YEAH!!

[Baelog]

Interesting. I've never been stacked into that much RT. My RT comes 6 seconds...waits...8 seconds...waits...never been put into 14 RT, and I've never had any RT from stopping pushing on the door either

[The Ponzzz]

407 won't work there. I've asked.

You need more STR though. It takes me only 2 sets of RT usually. Use haste too. It doesn't solve your issue really, but yeah, you don't need to go back there.

[ceran]

That door is definitely buggy.When I hunted there I never had that much rt. Tangle weed seems to interfere with being able to open the door also.
The door can only be opened by pushing or pulling depending on what side of it you are.

I always had wizard and ranger strength and did my aspect of lion to get through.

[Warriorbird]

Physical stat bonuses. Haste.

[zhelas]

>push doo
You brace yourself as much as possible and begin to push against the enormous stone doors.
Roundtime: 7 sec.
>
You continue to push against the enormous stone doors with all your strength.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
The enormous stone doors begin to give as they continue to open wider.
>
You continue to push against the enormous stone doors with all your strength.
Roundtime: 9 sec.
With one final groan, the enormous stone doors slowly slide open wide enough for passage.
>stop
You stop pushing on the enormous stone doors first.
Roundtime: 14 sec.

At this point I had a hard RT of 23 seconds, and the minotaur pops out instantaneously.

Being only a weak Dark Elf Sorcerer and have openned that damn door multiple times via pushing on it.

I realized that this door acts just like pushing on the graveyard gate at the Landing.

I recommend that every time the door budges you type stop. Then start pushing on that door again to get it open.

Peace

Zhelas

[Misun]

It was like that yesterday too and I bugged it. I had to bug it twice before but it was fixed pretty quickly. Only to have it happen again a few days later. For now, I've stopped going up there, it's too much of a hassle with the slow gen rate anyway.

[Baelog]

Yeah, I think it's cause the gen rate is spread over the entire labrynth, not just a gen rate for the Forge, Hidden Path, Dark Altar, and whatever else is in there

[SolitareConfinement]

Being only a weak Dark Elf Sorcerer and have openned that damn door multiple times via pushing on it.

I realized that this door acts just like pushing on the graveyard gate at the Landing.

I recommend that every time the door budges you type stop. Then start pushing on that door again to get it open.

Peace

Zhelas

should have just used phase being a sorc and all...atleast that USED to work way back when the minos were 18-30ish only back in GS3 days...used to be that if you were a sorc you could phase right through the door *shrugs* dunno if thats still true but thats what i used to do

[Lumi]

I'm a little confused...what's the problem with using 1011?

That's what I did every single time I went through that door, and it worked fine. There were almost always critters waiting on the other side for me, and I never got whacked.

1. Sing 1011
2. Push door (get stupid RT, I agree it should be lowered)
3. Door opens, stop pushing (wait out the rest of stupid RT)
4. Go door
5. GIRD/STOP 1011
6. ...
7. Profit

I had a lot of fun hunting that area, once I learned how the map works. 1011 never caused any creature spawn problems that I noticed.

[Spectral]

I've really never a noticed a problem with the gen rate in minos, I usually end up swarmed as hell. Using both a DE sorc and a halfling wizard I've had the same thing happen with the door, with the same buggy results. Would be great if they could make a fix stick, but for now I just make sure I take brawn with me; they push while I cast at anything walking in.

[Baelog]

>shea
You put a perfect modwir-hafted rolaren mattock in your leather baldric.
>stanc d
You are now in a defensive stance.
>push door
You brace yourself as much as possible and begin to push against the enormous stone doors.
Roundtime: 6 sec.
Roundtime changed to 3 seconds.
R>
You continue to push against the enormous stone doors with all your strength.
Roundtime: 7 sec.
Roundtime changed to 6 seconds.
The enormous stone doors shudder slightly as they slowly begin to budge.
R>
You continue to push against the enormous stone doors with all your strength.
Roundtime: 9 sec.
Roundtime changed to 6 seconds.
The enormous stone doors open a little more.
R>
A minotaur magus trots in, whispering a silent prayer.
R>stop
You stop pushing on the enormous stone doors first.
>get matto
You remove a perfect modwir-hafted rolaren mattock from in your leather baldric.
>stanc o
You are now in an offensive stance.
>wtr fei
[Roll result: 138 (open d100: 17) Bonus: 12]
You feint low, the minotaur magus buys the ruse and twists awkwardly to block the blow that never came!
Roundtime: 3 sec.
Roundtime changed to 1 second.
R>amb
You swing a perfect rolaren mattock at a minotaur magus!
AS: +475 vs DS: +312 with AvD: +43 + d100 roll: +54 = +260
... and hit for 107 points of damage!
Tremendous blow crushes skull like a ripe melon.
[You have earned 65 prestige points.]
One last prolonged bovine moan escapes from the minotaur magus as he falls still against the floor.
The opalescent aura fades from around a minotaur magus.
The deep blue glow leaves a minotaur magus.
The brilliant aura fades away from a minotaur magus.
A subtle light fades from a minotaur magus's eyes.
The dim aura fades from around a minotaur magus.
The light blue glow leaves a minotaur magus.
Roundtime: 8 sec.
Roundtime changed to 5 seconds.
R>loot
You search the minotaur magus.
You discard the magus's useless equipment.
He had 476 silvers on him.
You gather the remaining 476 coins.
Interesting, he carried a torn lime green robe on him.
He had nothing else of value.
A sudden blue fire bursts over the hair of a minotaur magus, consuming his form in the space of a breath.
>shea
You feel at full magical power again.
You feel fully energetic again.
>
You put a perfect modwir-hafted rolaren mattock in your leather baldric.
>stanc d
You are now in a defensive stance.
>push door
You brace yourself as much as possible and begin to push against the enormous stone doors.
Roundtime: 7 sec.
Roundtime changed to 4 seconds.
R>
You continue to push against the enormous stone doors with all your strength.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
Roundtime changed to 6 seconds.
The enormous stone doors begin to give as they continue to open wider.
R>
You notice that things have returned to their normal speed.
R>
You continue to push against the enormous stone doors with all your strength.
Roundtime: 6 sec.
With one final groan, the enormous stone doors slowly slide open wide enough for passage.
R>get matto
>get matto
You stop pushing on the enormous stone doors first.
>
You remove a perfect modwir-hafted rolaren mattock from in your leather baldric.
>go door


What's the prob?

[Asha]

I could literally feel the frustration when you say ''unfucking believable''.
I would have loved to have seen how you'd have reacted to a warning at that moment.

Have some plus rep to cheer you up!

[NocturnalRob]

I would have loved to have seen how you'd have reacted to a warning at that moment.
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_kTaFrEr_318/SRmvNaTsfdI/AAAAAAAAAYY/d78b4hnZAGs/smash%20and%20break%20computer%20pc%20monitor%20wi th%20keyboard%5B12%5D.jpg

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Same mechanics as the graveyard gate, except I don't think you can pop the gate via 407. You probably never noticed at the GY, because they are what, 1-3 lvl critters on the inside only?

[Asha]

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_kTaFrEr_318/SRmvNaTsfdI/AAAAAAAAAYY/d78b4hnZAGs/smash%20and%20break%20computer%20pc%20monitor%20wi th%20keyboard%5B12%5D.jpg

HAHAHAHAHAH YES!

[NocturnalRob]

le sigh. 2.5 minutes of pushing. didn't even make it through the door.

i'm on the list, i swear!!



>push doo
You brace yourself as much as possible and begin to push against the enormous stone doors.
Roundtime: 7 sec.
>
You continue to push against the enormous stone doors with all your strength.
Roundtime: 10 sec.
The enormous stone doors shudder slightly as they slowly begin to budge.
>
You continue to push against the enormous stone doors with all your strength.
Roundtime: 9 sec.
The enormous stone doors continue moving slowly in response to the force.
>
You continue to push against the enormous stone doors with all your strength.
Roundtime: 8 sec.
The enormous stone doors continue moving slowly in response to the force.
>
You continue to push against the enormous stone doors with all your strength.
Roundtime: 8 sec.
The enormous stone doors open a little more.
>
You continue to push against the enormous stone doors with all your strength.
Roundtime: 7 sec.
The enormous stone doors open a little more.
>
You continue to push against the enormous stone doors with all your strength.
Roundtime: 7 sec.
The enormous stone doors begin to give as they continue to open wider.
>
You get tired and stop straining to rest a bit.
Roundtime: 35 sec.
>push doo
You brace yourself as much as possible and begin to push against the enormous stone doors.
Roundtime: 6 sec.
>
You continue to push against the enormous stone doors with all your strength.
Roundtime: 10 sec.
The enormous stone doors open a little more.
>
You continue to push against the enormous stone doors with all your strength.
Roundtime: 8 sec.
The enormous stone doors begin to give as they continue to open wider.
>
You continue to push against the enormous stone doors with all your strength.
Roundtime: 6 sec.
The enormous stone doors begin to give as they continue to open wider.
>
You continue to push against the enormous stone doors with all your strength.
Roundtime: 8 sec.
With one final groan, the enormous stone doors slowly slide open wide enough for passage.
>glance
You stop pushing on the enormous stone doors first.
You have to rest a moment from your exertion.
Roundtime: 10 sec.
>

The enormous stone doors suddenly creak and slam shut with a grinding thud!
>'what the frig?
You ask, "What the frig?"

[The Ponzzz]

You need to STOP every time you get one RT hit. Wait it out, rinse repeat. Also, LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!

[Baelog]

Damn Rob, your Bard must be the most limp-wristed, noodle-armed, no-chest Half-Elf evar

[NocturnalRob]

Damn Rob, your Bard must be the most limp-wristed, noodle-armed, no-chest Half-Elf evar
Challenge? Challenge. My bard would rape you in the ear.

[Lumi]

Challenge? Challenge. My bard would rape you in the ear.

Quite possibly, but apparently not through any physical means =P

Seriously, what's your STR bonus? It took me a stupid amount of time to open that door on some attempts, but I never had the issues you're having.

Try using 1035 first? I never STOPped in the middle, I just threw up 1011, PUSHed the door, waited until it opened, then typed "GO DOOR" (got my "you must rest from your exertions" RT), then typed "GO DOOR" again.

I have maxed STR as a human, no enhancives, +30 bonus. I can't think of anything else that would matter. CON, maybe? My CON isn't so hot either, I tanked it on Luminasa.

[NocturnalRob]

Strength (STR): 100 (25) ... 100 (25)

[Lumi]

Strength (STR): 100 (25) ... 100 (25)

I have no idea why you're seeing the massively increased RTs. I don't think I ever had one over 20, and I only have 5 more STR bonus.

[Jaimaltz]

I think weight might play a role. My giant bard (40 str bonus, 334 lbs) can get the door open in about 1.5 - 2 minutes, and I haven't seen his round time go higher than 10. I've never gotten the "rest from your exertion thing", but I use the "stamina" command to stop from pushing the door each time it budges, which works during roundtime.

Try getting the strength spell and see how long that takes you. I can't imagine anything other than strength and weight being a factor except perhaps encumbrance.

[Franknozly]

le sigh. 2.5 minutes of pushing. didn't even make it through the door.

i'm on the list, i swear!!

lolz hilarious. I just skip the door completely, ain't worth the time to push it to have it slam back in your face. Even if I get through there ain't enough crap in there for me to kill.

Usually the spawns are spaced out throughout the labyrinth so if there's a ton of crap already spawned, the spawn rate behind the door will be crappy for the first few minutes.. at least that's my experience.
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[Whimsi]

lolz hilarious. I just skip the door completely, ain't worth the time to push it to have it slam back in your face. Even if I get through there ain't enough crap in there for me to kill.

Usually the spawns are spaced out throughout the labyrinth so if there's a ton of crap already spawned, the spawn rate behind the door will be crappy for the first few minutes.. at least that's my experience.

aka:

http://images.starcraftmazter.net/4chan/for_forums/bump2.jpg

[Warriorbird]

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[RawR]

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[Warriorbird]

Sadly... the appropriate response'd be Pedobear. Know your R&B scandals. You clicked though.

:)

[Ugotfaced]

Can warriors bash the door? I know you can push the GY gate in the landing open, but it takes some time.. but I can go up and bash it open with my shoulder or w/e weapon I'm holding..

[audioserf]

I'm only a level 11 newbie with no minotaur experience, but by reading this bumperiffic thread, the character weight theory makes a lot of sense. Strength bonus aside, pushing on something when you weigh 300lbs will generally move it...

[The-Pwny-Express]

I don't normally take any pleasure in other ppls frustrations or pain, but in the case of this thread I laughed my ass off. Actually typing unfucking believable, I have typed far worse than that myself after nonsense happens. It's only so funny because I feel your pain as we have probably all encountered those "WTF?!!?!?!? are you fucking KIDDING me?!" situations. The keyboard through the computer pic, lol good stuff.




Fuck the minotaur altar... 04-29-2009 05:13 PM song of peace, fucking idiot

IT STEMS THE CREATURE GENERATION, YOU FUCKING ANONYMOUS ASSBAG!

LOL!

[NocturnalRob]

I'm pleased that my pain can bring laughter. Haha. Ah, I remember the altar room with fondness...frustration and fondness.

[AnticorRifling]

I'm pleased that my pain can bring laughter. Haha. Ah, I remember the altar room with fondness...frustration and fondness.

Just like your stay in prison.