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Iamnaeth
04-12-2009, 04:49 PM
alright everyone, with our annual fix skills coming up, i thought I'd consider playing around as a pure mage from a warmage to see if I like it. For the record, here's my current build. (The 1 rank of pick pocketing is from an enhancement). I'm level 70

Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Armor Use..........................| 96 22
Combat Maneuvers...................| 172 72
Two-Handed Weapons.................| 172 72
Physical Fitness...................| 82 18
Arcane Symbols.....................| 171 71
Magic Item Use.....................| 171 71
Spell Aiming.......................| 242 142
Harness Power......................| 171 71
Elemental Mana Control.............| 171 71
Elemental Lore - Air...............| 102 24
Perception.........................| 171 71
Climbing...........................| 120 30
Swimming...........................| 134 37
Pickpocketing......................| 8 1

Spell Lists
Major Elemental....................| 28

Spell Lists
Minor Elemental....................| 76

Spell Lists
Wizard.............................| 40


Here is what I'm considering changing to, any tips? I think i wanna go the immoliation wizard route. I don't really care about enchanting that much.

Armor use 4
Physical Training 18
Arcane Symbols 71
Magic Item Use 71
Harness Power 71
Spell Aiming 142
Elemental Mana Control 71
Major Elemental 70
Minor Elemental 76
Wizard 30
Fire Lore 125
Climbing 30
Swimming 50
Perception 50

Thanks for your thoughts!

Jayvn
04-12-2009, 08:10 PM
30 ranks of wizard would irritate the shit out of me, also why not 24 ranks of pt?

Rimalon
04-13-2009, 12:05 AM
Wait until the Elemental Lore Review.

Iamnaeth
04-13-2009, 01:37 AM
Why would 30 ranks of wizard irritate you?

18 ranks because I'm a halfing and thought it maxed out my HP but looks like 17 ranks does that...

Why wait for the lore review? Do we have a date on anything coming out of it? Wasn't it supposed to happen last year?

phantasm
04-13-2009, 03:57 AM
Looks good, if your planning on 519'ing everything you might want to see what you can do too boost your 500's CS a bit too give you some advantage.

I'd drop 400's down to 66, and swap those over to 500's. I'd also drop perception down to 24 but that is preference.

Rimalon
04-13-2009, 04:39 AM
30 Wizard ranks is going to kill your DS. If you have a contingency plan in place for more DS, fine, go for it.

Naos has been working on nothing but the Elemental Lore Review for the last like 8 months. It WILL be released between now and next year's fixskill. In addition, he said he's posting a preview soon that should allow you to plan out what lores you'll want to train in.

If you want to spend 250k BPs or 8+ million on a fixskill when you're all sad about all the cool lore benefits you don't have, feel free!

Jace Solo
04-13-2009, 01:50 PM
For something so huge as lore changes...what are the odds people would get instant migration for lores or skill in general, provided they actually used elemental lores?

Methais
04-13-2009, 01:58 PM
30 Wizard ranks is going to kill your DS. If you have a contingency plan in place for more DS, fine, go for it.

Naos has been working on nothing but the Elemental Lore Review for the last like 8 months. It WILL be released between now and next year's fixskill. In addition, he said he's posting a preview soon that should allow you to plan out what lores you'll want to train in.

If you want to spend 250k BPs or 8+ million on a fixskill when you're all sad about all the cool lore benefits you don't have, feel free!

Has he given any hints on what might become of immolate builds? Buffed? Nerfed?

Also to OP: Drop 1 rank of Minor Elemental. 425/430 both cap at 75 ranks.

Rimalon
04-13-2009, 03:45 PM
For something so huge as lore changes...what are the odds people would get instant migration for lores or skill in general, provided they actually used elemental lores?

Posting a "preview" of the changes are how they get away with not supplying us with instant migrations, free fixskills, etc.

Just like with the Spirit Lore Review, they post previews, then you're expected to train the Lore Ranks between the time the preview is posted and the changes roll into the live game.

And Methais... Naos basically posted, when I suggested an increased lore benefit for Immo, that "Immolation is already a pretty powerful spell. I doubt it will gain anything in the Lore Review".

I take that to mean that there's no nerf, but no buff, either.

Methais
04-13-2009, 10:22 PM
I take that to mean that there's no nerf, but no buff, either.

Nice.

RelentlessJew
04-16-2009, 06:37 PM
Personally, I see no reason to lose the THW and CM. You're still 2x in Spell aiming and have plenty of spells, spell AS and CS as far as I can tell.

All you're going to be doing is gaining specialization and losing versatility.

How does that help you succeed?

Back
04-16-2009, 07:00 PM
Personally, I see no reason to lose the THW and CM. You're still 2x in Spell aiming and have plenty of spells, spell AS and CS as far as I can tell.

All you're going to be doing is gaining specialization and losing versatility.

How does that help you succeed?

I think this would be a better avatar for you.

Blarg. It did not work. Do a google image search for “jew crossing”.

They have them in Israel I shit you not.

RelentlessJew
04-16-2009, 07:16 PM
I think this would be a better avatar for you.

Blarg. It did not work. Do a google image search for “jew crossing”.

They have them in Israel I shit you not.

Fortunately for us both I don't give a fuck what you think... and I like this one better.

Don't make me call the neighborhood watch association on your ass.

Back
04-16-2009, 07:22 PM
Mazel tov.

Victor Mancini
05-05-2009, 05:06 AM
Hi everyone,

My wizard just turned 60. I was wondering if you could share your expertise here and let me know if I am on the right path. I'm a pure caster dude. I'm in Voln (and I have no idea what I'm going to hunt after wind wraiths), dark elf. I'll post my stats afterwards.

I like the fire and earth--520 has helped me out a lot, and fire is...fun!

Any help you could offer would be great! Thank you in advance!
Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Armor Use..........................| 20 4
Physical Fitness...................| 99 23
Arcane Symbols.....................| 178 78
Magic Item Use.....................| 199 99
Spell Aiming.......................| 224 124
Harness Power......................| 223 123
Elemental Mana Control.............| 102 24
Elemental Lore - Air...............| 102 24
Elemental Lore - Earth.............| 134 37
Elemental Lore - Fire..............| 154 54
Perception.........................| 40 8
Climbing...........................| 108 26
Swimming...........................| 54 11

Spell Lists
Major Elemental....................| 48

Spell Lists
Minor Elemental....................| 53

Spell Lists
Wizard.............................| 30
(Use SKILLS BASE to display unmodified ranks and goals)
----------------------
Gender: Male Age: 0 Expr: 3472394 Level: 60
Normal (Bonus) ... Enhanced (Bonus)
Strength (STR): 94 (22) ... 94 (22)
Constitution (CON): 91 (15) ... 91 (15)
Dexterity (DEX): 82 (26) ... 82 (26)
Agility (AGI): 90 (25) ... 90 (25)
Discipline (DIS): 92 (11) ... 92 (11)
Aura (AUR): 82 (26) ... 82 (26)
Logic (LOG): 84 (17) ... 84 (17)
Intuition (INT): 85 (22) ... 85 (22)
Wisdom (WIS): 88 (24) ... 88 (24)
Influence (INF): 87 (13) ... 87 (13)
Mana: 246 Silver: 0

Do you need any other info? I'll post!

Thank you again!

Izzy
05-05-2009, 09:00 AM
Hi everyone,

My wizard just turned 60. I was wondering if you could share your expertise here and let me know if I am on the right path. I'm a pure caster dude. I'm in Voln (and I have no idea what I'm going to hunt after wind wraiths), dark elf. I'll post my stats afterwards.

I like the fire and earth--520 has helped me out a lot, and fire is...fun!

Any help you could offer would be great! Thank you in advance!
Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Armor Use..........................| 20 4
Physical Fitness...................| 99 23
Arcane Symbols.....................| 178 78
Magic Item Use.....................| 199 99
Spell Aiming.......................| 224 124
Harness Power......................| 223 123
Elemental Mana Control.............| 102 24
Elemental Lore - Air...............| 102 24
Elemental Lore - Earth.............| 134 37
Elemental Lore - Fire..............| 154 54
Perception.........................| 40 8
Climbing...........................| 108 26
Swimming...........................| 54 11

Spell Lists
Major Elemental....................| 48

Spell Lists
Minor Elemental....................| 53

Spell Lists
Wizard.............................| 30
(Use SKILLS BASE to display unmodified ranks and goals)
----------------------
Gender: Male Age: 0 Expr: 3472394 Level: 60
Normal (Bonus) ... Enhanced (Bonus)
Strength (STR): 94 (22) ... 94 (22)
Constitution (CON): 91 (15) ... 91 (15)
Dexterity (DEX): 82 (26) ... 82 (26)
Agility (AGI): 90 (25) ... 90 (25)
Discipline (DIS): 92 (11) ... 92 (11)
Aura (AUR): 82 (26) ... 82 (26)
Logic (LOG): 84 (17) ... 84 (17)
Intuition (INT): 85 (22) ... 85 (22)
Wisdom (WIS): 88 (24) ... 88 (24)
Influence (INF): 87 (13) ... 87 (13)
Mana: 246 Silver: 0

Do you need any other info? I'll post!

Thank you again!

I think you have too much harness power, especially at that level. Drop it to 1x (maybe 1.5x if you really think you need it: I don't). You should beef up your MjE ranks for a few reasons: more bolt AS from 513, better CS for 516 when you do need more mana. Other than that, AS/MIU ranks for more runestaff DS. The undead gap between wraiths and the rift sucks. Illistim is good for the 60's range, with the keen and wyneb. No undead though.

Iamnaeth
05-05-2009, 04:13 PM
shrickhen in the tower are undead, right?

BriarFox
05-05-2009, 04:15 PM
shrickhen in the tower are undead, right?

Yep. Only undead in the nations once you get out of the Vaalor swamp and until you get to OTF (and only the liches there are undead).

Victor Mancini
05-06-2009, 05:21 AM
Thank you Izzy! I tried to give you reps but it said I needed to spread it around some. Weird.

I'll add lots to major elemental, glom on a bunch more to arcane and magic item use, and drop a WHOLE BUNCH of my harness one. I just did that to get more mana, but I'll go with your recommendations.

Thank you again, happy dude!!!!