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I just want to come here and post a big Fuck You to Oscuro, Estild, Warden, and the rest of Simutronics.
FUCK YOU.
Sorry, no, I don't subscribe to the "suck up or you'll get no love" school of wankery.
To give clerics the ability to cross realms teleport, with a group, with 1/5th of their 25th spell, at less than 1/5th the cost we spend to do the same, with the entire spell, of our 40th level spell, without a group, is fucking lame.
I'm not the kind of guy who needs to have a unique power, fuck, let every profession cross realm teleport. But I sure as shit do not want to be the only fucker paying for it. Its like finding out a hooker gives it away for free to everyone except you.
The fact is, Oscuro and Estild have such a ridiculous hardon for clerics I'm surprised they can even sit at a desk to do any work. I don't get how they keep getting all this shit approved, meanwhile we get diddy done. Oh yes, we appreciate Strath's bug fixes, we do, don't we guys? Yes, lets not forget to compliment Strath.
But when was the last time Strath took an ability from another profession and gave it to us at 1/5th the cost?
Apples are Apples and Oranges are Oranges and there hasn't been the kind of love that Oscuro and Estild show clerics since Monica Lewinski was kneeling under a desk.
I just love it. Oscuro's announcement "We didn't think one fifth of the options in 325 was powerful enough."
When has any GM said something was not powerful enough? Any game system?
Seems to me 325 was plenty as hell powerful. It gives awesome raises, which could be enough right there, it is a rip off of 420, entire rip off. It lets you make bombs and teleport too, and you can make more silvers with it. But no, not powerful enough for Oscuro and Estild.
Celephais
04-01-2009, 09:11 PM
I just want to come here and post a big Fuck You to Oscuro, Estild, Warden, and the rest of Simutronics.
FUCK YOU.
Sorry, no, I don't subscribe to the "suck up or you'll get no love" school of wankery.
To give clerics the ability to cross realms teleport, with a group, with 1/5th of their 25th spell, at less than 1/5th the cost we spend to do the same, with the entire spell, of our 40th level spell, without a group, is fucking lame.
I'm not the kind of guy who needs to have a unique power, fuck, let every profession cross realm teleport. But I sure as shit do not want to be the only fucker paying for it. Its like finding out a hooker gives it away for free to everyone except you.
The fact is, Oscuro and Estild have such a ridiculous hardon for clerics I'm surprised they can even sit at a desk to do any work. I don't get how they keep getting all this shit approved, meanwhile we get diddy done. Oh yes, we appreciate Strath's bug fixes, we do, don't we guys? Yes, lets not forget to compliment Strath.
But when was the last time Strath took an ability from another profession and gave it to us at 1/5th the cost?
Apples are Apples and Oranges are Oranges and there hasn't been the kind of love that Oscuro and Estild show clerics since Monica Lewinski was kneeling under a desk.
I just love it. Oscuro's announcement "We didn't think one fifth of the options in 325 was powerful enough."
When has any GM said something was not powerful enough? Any game system?
Seems to me 325 was plenty as hell powerful. It gives awesome raises, which could be enough right there, it is a rip off of 420, entire rip off. It lets you make bombs and teleport too, and you can make more silvers with it. But no, not powerful enough for Oscuro and Estild.
Just making sure it doesn't go anywhere.
The Ponzzz
04-01-2009, 09:13 PM
So you're upset that the cleric and empath guru do good things for clerics and empaths?
Belnia
04-01-2009, 09:17 PM
This is only adjacent realm which cuts its usefulness down a lot outside of the Elven Nations.
Latrinsorm
04-01-2009, 09:17 PM
Since when are Monica Lewinksy references back in?
Oh and hey, remember pre-nerf MD? Fuckin' Simu!!!!!!!!!
BriarFox
04-01-2009, 09:17 PM
Yeah, I was chatting with Warden, Estild and Oscuro the other night. They told me they'd been plotting for months how to best piss you off, because you're number one on their agenda.
Stop being a whiny bitch. 740 is by far the best teleport spell in the game.
Stunseed
04-01-2009, 09:18 PM
I just want to come here and post a big Fuck You to Oscuro, Estild, Warden, and the rest of Simutronics.
FUCK YOU.
Sorry, no, I don't subscribe to the "suck up or you'll get no love" school of wankery.
To give clerics the ability to cross realms teleport, with a group, with 1/5th of their 25th spell, at less than 1/5th the cost we spend to do the same, with the entire spell, of our 40th level spell, without a group, is fucking lame.
I'm not the kind of guy who needs to have a unique power, fuck, let every profession cross realm teleport. But I sure as shit do not want to be the only fucker paying for it. Its like finding out a hooker gives it away for free to everyone except you.
The fact is, Oscuro and Estild have such a ridiculous hardon for clerics I'm surprised they can even sit at a desk to do any work. I don't get how they keep getting all this shit approved, meanwhile we get diddy done. Oh yes, we appreciate Strath's bug fixes, we do, don't we guys? Yes, lets not forget to compliment Strath.
But when was the last time Strath took an ability from another profession and gave it to us at 1/5th the cost?
Apples are Apples and Oranges are Oranges and there hasn't been the kind of love that Oscuro and Estild show clerics since Monica Lewinski was kneeling under a desk.
I just love it. Oscuro's announcement "We didn't think one fifth of the options in 325 was powerful enough."
When has any GM said something was not powerful enough? Any game system?
Seems to me 325 was plenty as hell powerful. It gives awesome raises, which could be enough right there, it is a rip off of 420, entire rip off. It lets you make bombs and teleport too, and you can make more silvers with it. But no, not powerful enough for Oscuro and Estild.
It's petition time. Sirius.
Stretch
04-01-2009, 09:18 PM
I lol'd.
ElvenFury
04-01-2009, 09:19 PM
Why isn't Oscuro chained to the Voln update? Someone please get his priorities straight.
The Ponzzz
04-01-2009, 09:22 PM
Estild and Oscuro are some great GMs. They get stuff done. I don't understand why V is bashing them. Sure, I understand the frustration with some of the other professions going unattended for years (for major overhauls, that is). But no reason to bash those guys.
Yeah, I was chatting with Warden, Estild and Oscuro the other night. They told me they'd been plotting for months how to best piss you off, because you're number one on their agenda.
Stop being a whiny bitch. 740 is by far the best teleport spell in the game.
Right, what is your profession again? Douching?
So what if I took your 40th spell, whats that? Douche of power? And made it a part of curse, and where you had to buy expensive chalk to make it work, I just have to cum in a bucket and use that.
740 is an entire spell slot.
740 requires 50k chalk to do anything cross realms
740 has a big risk of failure, and failure means death, or atleast, another 50k.
740 can't do shit with a group.
I fail the see the equity. You've got one spell that does what 420 does, turns silver into gold, lets you keep experience after dying, makes bombs, and yes, cross realm teleports. Or you've got a spell that cross realm teleports.
Sure, 740 can go further in one jump, but at what cost?
Belnia
04-01-2009, 09:28 PM
Just re-roll as an empath or cleric. They're the new sorcerers!
Estild and Oscuro are some great GMs. They get stuff done. I don't understand why V is bashing them. Sure, I understand the frustration with some of the other professions going unattended for years (for major overhauls, that is). But no reason to bash those guys.
Oscuro has insulted me before, I can't give him payback on the officials, so I'm doing it here.
Oh, and yes, they're great gms in that they get a lot of shit done. Sure, great.
But either they don't give a fuck about other professions, or Warden doesn't.
Its like Clerics got the Yankees, and we're stuck with some backwater farm team. Doesn't mean the yankees are bad players, but doesn't make it right.
Just re-roll as an empath or cleric. They're the new sorcerers!
You know I've got an empath, and he fucking rocks.
If I could reroll into a cleric and keep my exp, I would be tempted, I will not lie.
Belnia
04-01-2009, 09:30 PM
So what if I took your 40th spell, whats that? Douche of power? And made it a part of curse, and where you had to buy expensive chalk to make it work, I just have to cum in a bucket and use that.
I'd love it if 640 and 650 got components to help increase their duration and effectiveness. I've long advocated for a foraged potion of 10-20 random herbs brought to the alchemist who does the 620 resistance potions to be brewed into a component that extended 650's pitiful duration.
ALSO, if we're following the Blank of Blank format, making fun of rangers would be "Wall of Douche".
Tea & Strumpets
04-01-2009, 09:32 PM
Nerf implosion.
BriarFox
04-01-2009, 09:33 PM
Right, what is your profession again? Douching?
So what if I took your 40th spell, whats that? Douche of power? And made it a part of curse, and where you had to buy expensive chalk to make it work, I just have to cum in a bucket and use that.
740 is an entire spell slot.
740 requires 50k chalk to do anything cross realms
740 has a big risk of failure, and failure means death, or atleast, another 50k.
740 can't do shit with a group.
I fail the see the equity. You've got one spell that does what 420 does, turns silver into gold, lets you keep experience after dying, makes bombs, and yes, cross realm teleports. Or you've got a spell that cross realm teleports.
Sure, 740 can go further in one jump, but at what cost?
All I got out of that response was, "Whaa whaa whaa. It's all about me. Why can't GMs give me the golden portapotty I deserve?"
droit
04-01-2009, 09:35 PM
Why bash the two GMs that are actually doing their jobs? Why not instead lobby for more proactive gurus in other professions? I wish I could clone those guys and use em as ranger gurus.
Seriously, though. You're coming off as a caricature of the whiny sorcerer. Or have I got it wrong and you are in fact the prototype?
Kitsun
04-01-2009, 09:37 PM
Since when did clerics rule the world? I thought they were one of the cruddier professions in need of love.
I'm no where near as happy about getting adjacent realm teleporting as you are upset by it...
Why bash the two GMs that are actually doing their jobs? Why not instead lobby for more proactive gurus in other professions? I wish I could clone those guys and use em as ranger gurus.
Seriously, though. You're coming off as a caricature of the whiny sorcerer. Or have I got it wrong and you are in fact the prototype?
Spent almost 10 years doing that. I shit you not.
Sorcerers have not really had a proactive GM since Romulus left, do you know how fucking long ago that was? We've been asking for more GM facetime for years.
Like I said, I don't subscribe to the suckup school of wankery. I'm not going to bend over and spread my cheeks and say "Please sir, one more time." I'm not going to sing about how great an GM resource imbalance is for one profession while ignoring my own profession for which it sucks.
Perhaps you've not met me before, but this should not be a surprise, I'm a bit of a blowhard prick who says it like it is. You might call it a character flaw, but if you ever need someone to give honest feedback about the scifi novel you've been writing on and off since you were 14, I'm your guy. I promise, not to hold back.
Tolwynn
04-01-2009, 09:42 PM
You should rejoice, Kitsun, as with this one masterful stroke, clerics are apparently the new idol of choice for raging sorcerous penis envy. Maybe you can get one to hold your cloak for you now, or something.
Since when did clerics rule the world? I thought they were one of the cruddier professions in need of love.
I'm no where near as happy about getting adjacent realm teleporting as you are upset by it...
About the time bane/smite replace repel.
Since you asked.
Previous to that clerics were the most awesome hunting profession ever, if you were hunting undead. After that they got to kick ass on other things too. Couple that with meditation (which was nerfed a few years later, rightfully so), exp from raising, lower training costs, thicker armor, etc. Pretty bitchin. Empaths rival them now though thanks to the awesomeness that is boneshatter.
Ignot
04-01-2009, 09:42 PM
If I still played I would welcome any change or updates like this. So what if just a cleric can do it, I can either roll up a cleric or get one of my cleric friends to transport me. And why does everything have to cost the same? I would rather have some diversity in the professions then all of them being the same (like now). Soon you will see warriors with some kind of cross realm warcry.
ViridianAsp
04-01-2009, 09:43 PM
Since when did clerics rule the world? I thought they were one of the cruddier professions in need of love.
I'm no where near as happy about getting adjacent realm teleporting as you are upset by it...
Clerics are, and ditto that adjacent? It isn't even worth the mention much less the cost unless as Belnia stated, you're somewhere like Ta'Illistim.
You have to train hard in lores to even make these gems, half the time, my nexus gems don't even work. I have like 1 out of 3 dissolve in my hands and fail.
If I still played I would welcome any change or updates like this. So what if just a cleric can do it, I can either roll up a cleric or get one of my cleric friends to transport me. And why does everything have to cost the same? I would rather have some diversity in the professions then all of them being the same (like now). Soon you will see warriors with some kind of cross realm warcry.
Sure diversity... but what if you've got one profession that always pays the most? That kinda sucks eh?
I think this falls under the category of "ask not how you can nerf other professions, but how yours can be improved" Yeah, 325 seems like it does a lot of stuff from looking at the spell descrip. But after level 20 its illegal or something to use a slot that isn't a multiple of 5 so I'm all for giving spells multiple options. Its basically like more spells.
Also, aren't improvements based somewhat on how active your particular profession GM is? I'm guessing if they are being paid from the tip jar or whatever some will be more into it than others.
Actually, forget reasoning, this is a pretty good rant, you have Peter Griffin in your avatar as the Grinds My Gears host and an attention-grabbing headline. Pretty sweet. Lets add emoticons to the fun :shoot:
ViridianAsp
04-01-2009, 09:46 PM
You should rejoice, Kitsun, as with this one masterful stroke, clerics are apparently the new idol of choice for raging sorcerous penis envy. Maybe you can get one to hold your cloak for you now, or something.
Gve me a piece of cake. Right now! I don't know, but if Hadya is the Idol of envy I think I deserve cake.
Fallen
04-01-2009, 09:51 PM
I don't care that clerics get X-realms group transport. What I do care about is an adjustment to X-realms chalk, and/or seeing an adjacent realms chalk. That, or give X-realms chalk more than one charge.
Kitsun
04-01-2009, 09:53 PM
And you have to pre-set the location too! So I can't exactly use it to jump to a merchant event in Vaalor unless I walk my ass over to set it, walk back and then go teleport.
ViridianAsp
04-01-2009, 09:56 PM
And you have to pre-set the location too! So I can't exactly use it to jump to a merchant event in Vaalor unless I walk my ass over to set it, walk back and then go teleport.
:yeahthat:
It isn't like you get like a book to put locations in, we have to manually set them.
Tolwynn
04-01-2009, 09:56 PM
You are clearly a terrible sorcerer, Evarin, as you are failing to be consumed by this terrible admixture of penis envy and righteous fury over such a heinous trangression against your sacrosanct profession. For shame, sir. For shame.
:tumble:
Androidpk
04-01-2009, 09:58 PM
but if you ever need someone to give honest feedback about the scifi novel you've been writing on and off since you were 14
How the hell did you know that!?
Rolton-Sammich
04-01-2009, 10:02 PM
QQ
Fallen
04-01-2009, 10:06 PM
You are clearly a terrible sorcerer, Evarin, as you are failing to be consumed by this terrible admixture of penis envy and righteous fury over such a heinous trangression against your sacrosanct profession. For shame, sir. For shame.
:tumble:
I don't mind if they give every pure X-realms spells. Heck, the game would be better for it. All I am worried about is balancing costs and risks accordingly.
Clerics STILL need a lot of love, but Miracle and now this goes a long ways. Still, Empaths should have lost the 200s circle, giving Cleric sole access to Major Spirit.
Sylvan Dreams
04-01-2009, 10:36 PM
It would be funny if it all turned out to be an April Fool's joke.
thefarmer
04-01-2009, 10:38 PM
Virilneus
Have you ever played checkers?
Do you know how you can double jump, triple jump, quadruple jump in checkers, thus crossing the whole board in one turn?
I'll give you a moment to let it sink in.
http://www.play.net/forums/messages.asp?forum=102&category=25&topic=26&message=8230
"Bind locations are not 1 per realm; they are 1 per Cleric. It is unlikely that we will be further increasing cross-realm teleportation for Clerics."
GameMaster Estild
Cleric/Empath Team
>I'll give you a moment to think about how Nexus works.
You'll have to excuse me, that important information was not in the spell description or in the official announcement.
It doesn't make the spell not crap though, I'd use stronger words, but I'm sure I'm already testing Emeradan aren't I?
You're still doing a cross realm teleport with a group at really low lost, as a mere part of a 25th spell.
Just because you can't hoppity across the world doesn't mean that its right for a mere part of a 25th level spell to do as more for less than a 40th level spell when jumping just one realm.
Virilneus
Funny how the whining starts before he even understand the spell.
I'll also re-iterate my LOL at bringing up Paladin spells as somehow overpowered in his whining.
Jayvn
04-01-2009, 11:07 PM
QQ
that QQ was not nearly big enough
they already did give everyone cross realm teleport, chronomage, a system I have no problem with.
Cookie to the person who can answer why.
I think this falls under the category of "ask not how you can nerf other professions, but how yours can be improved" Yeah, 325 seems like it does a lot of stuff from looking at the spell descrip. But after level 20 its illegal or something to use a slot that isn't a multiple of 5 so I'm all for giving spells multiple options. Its basically like more spells.
Also, aren't improvements based somewhat on how active your particular profession GM is? I'm guessing if they are being paid from the tip jar or whatever some will be more into it than others.
Actually, forget reasoning, this is a pretty good rant, you have Peter Griffin in your avatar as the Grinds My Gears host and an attention-grabbing headline. Pretty sweet. Lets add emoticons to the fun :shoot:
You could fill 200 pages with nothing but proposals I have put forth to staff to improve the sorcerer profession over the years.
Try the carrot, try the stick, try the carrot, try the stick.
Jayvn
04-01-2009, 11:27 PM
I know this may come as a disappointment... but the truth must be revealed... Sorcerers, Santa Clause and the Easter bunny are not real... in fact gemstone is just an ever changing 'game'
Why is it every damn game that has a 'all powerful evil' class end up only being played by the emos and kids who were picked on too much and like to complain about every thing.
Samuel Jackson needs to roll up a sorc and teach people how it's done...
MOTHER FUCKER NOW YOU GONNA DIE! IMPLOEEED!!!11!!
diethx
04-01-2009, 11:29 PM
Why is it every damn game that has a 'all powerful evil' class end up only being played by the emos and kids who were picked on too much and like to complain about every thing.
Pfft, we're not all like Whiny McBitchyPants over there.
Jayvn
04-01-2009, 11:32 PM
Aww I gotta spread rep before I can rep you diethx :( But whiny mcbitchypants for the fuckin win
ViridianAsp
04-01-2009, 11:41 PM
they already did give everyone cross realm teleport, chronomage, a system I have no problem with.
Cookie to the person who can answer why.
Not that I need or even want your cookie, but even chronomage is 100k a pop and can take up to two hours. Sorcerers still have the best deal on teleportation, sure chalk is expensive but you get to travel to any location in an instant.
We're only getting adjacent realm, the fact that you are sore about it is fundamentally stupid.
Mtenda
04-02-2009, 12:08 AM
I use 740 all the time to go from Teras to the Nations in an instant. I love it. Though, I do wish that we could have group members for cross realms with proper lore training.
Doughboy
04-02-2009, 12:38 AM
Samuel Jackson needs to roll up a sorc and teach people how it's done...
MOTHER FUCKER NOW YOU GONNA DIE! IMPLOEEED!!!11!!
Win.
http://www.myspaceimagecodes.net/images/12192dave%20chappelle%20as%20samuel%20L%20jackson. jpg
mrjrd222
04-02-2009, 12:43 AM
I was extremely excited when I heard that this actually worked. I had visions of grandeur in my head and suddenly though I could cut travel time from the Landing to Illistim in half, or even less.
Then I went out to test it... Ta'Vaalor to Ta'Illistim, check, wow that was fun, maybe I can get to the dais from Zul'Lugoth? Nope, can I get to Illistim after the cart ride from Zul'Lugoth? Nope.
Could I get to Solhaven from the Landing (a 60 second walk)? Nope.
Could I get to Icemule from the Landing (Maybe 2 minutes of walking)? Nope.
You can't cut short ANY travel time with this ability, so the issue must be something else... Perhaps it's overpowering to have an adjacent realm gold ring type effect?
Well, it's NOT an adjacent realm gold ring either. It's a one way ticket. You tap the gem where you want to land eventually, but it doesn't set the gem's bind location, it sets the CLERIC's bind location. Any nexus gem you create, forever and ever, will try to teleport you to that location unless you tap a new gem somewhere else!
As I said before, I was extremely excited, but my visions of grandeur didn't come to fruition. It turns out to be a situational rescue device that I probably won't use unless I'm rescuing one of my other characters, or when I start hunting in OTF (months away).
So keep thinking it's overpowered... The grass is always greener and all that jazz.
Methais
04-02-2009, 01:03 AM
Anyone know if this works between the Landing and Teras? Or does that dead zone on the boat ride fuck it up?
If the latter, I wonder if you can bind to the boat while it's in that zone, and then teleport to the boat.
Fallen
04-02-2009, 01:06 AM
Anyone know if this works between the Landing and Teras? Or does that dead zone on the boat ride fuck it up?
I'm hearing no.
If the latter, I wonder if you can bind to the boat while it's in that zone, and then teleport to the boat.
See above.
Methais
04-02-2009, 01:07 AM
See above.
I meant while the boat was in transit, in the dead zone. Would be totally useless unless you just missed the boat or something though. Was just curious more than anything else.
Fallen
04-02-2009, 01:09 AM
I meant while the boat was in transit, in the dead zone. Would be totally useless unless you just missed the boat or something though. Was just curious more than anything else.
I have to think no, as you would bypass the ticket fee, wouldn't you? I doubt you can set, or use any transportation item on that ship, but I could be totally wrong. I know on the Cutter to RR if you go to a major sanctuary right before they kick you off you can be on the boat when you're not supposed to, so maybe it is possible. I wouldn't advertise it if you can.
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Subject: Re: Holy Receptacle, Nexus (325, tier 3) Update
>This reminds me of the joke that is 1625. Just keep on adding to it. Bonding benefits, sanctification, plasma flares? Is that enough? Nope... Lets add spell infusing too! Good idea Mitch! Thanks Bill! What should we do for components or requirements? Prep/cast? Works for me!
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Suppa Hobbit Mage
04-02-2009, 07:16 AM
Midol. Take a whole lot. At the end of the day,
IT IS JUST A GAME
P.S. GMs please when reviewing the 500 and 900 spell circles add a cross realm teleport that allows you to not only take groups, but to target hidden merchants and appear in the room at the beginning of room order. (don't put this spell in 400s or those sorcerers will be able to use it!)
Farmer, you keep repeating the same thing.
"You bring up paladin spells, I giggle like a little bitch"
Do you want me to reply or something? Are you going to tell me how wrong/whiny/gay/stupid/ugly/retarded I am for bringing up paladin spells? You've posted it three times trying to get me to take the bait fine...
1625 is the most powerful item enhancing spell in the game, it turns mundane weapons into auction quality. It requires no quest, no runestone, no component, no time, no mana infusing, all you do is kneel and prep/cast. That spell is certifiable bullshit. Then, to remove it and do another, its easy as hell as well.
Now your retort sir?
Swami71
04-02-2009, 07:38 AM
So I take it this means your not going to CCF crb?
Tsa`ah
04-02-2009, 09:35 AM
Due to the chuckles that resulted from reading crb cry about something so frivolous, I'm giving this thread 5 stars.
Rolton-Sammich
04-02-2009, 09:39 AM
So I take it this means your not going to CCF crb?
On the contrary! He'll need plenty of alters to make all of his gear properly "tear-streaked" and "tear-stained."
Not to mention "a pair of severely bunched and twisted pantaloons."
Ignot
04-02-2009, 09:57 AM
The real issue is the long ass mine cart ride in Zul Logoth. What the fuck!? Why is each mine cart like a 15 minute ride??
StrayRogue
04-02-2009, 12:52 PM
The real issue is the long ass mine cart ride in Zul Logoth. What the fuck!? Why is each mine cart like a 15 minute ride??
Yeah, and dude, why is so hard to find the droids you're looking for?????
Less QQ. More pew pew.
Warriorbird
04-02-2009, 01:00 PM
This is beautiful. I mean...people were pointing it out to me over AIM and I haven't even played for months.
mgoddess
04-02-2009, 01:21 PM
1625 is the most powerful item enhancing spell in the game, it turns mundane weapons into auction quality. It requires no quest, no runestone, no component, no time, no mana infusing, all you do is kneel and prep/cast. That spell is certifiable bullshit. Then, to remove it and do another, its easy as hell as well.
You seriously don't know shit, do you?
no time - Right... so the hunting people have to do to "bond" to the weapon isn't time? The only thing a paladin gets from the kneel/prep/cast business is permablessing the weapon in their hands.
no mana infusing - I'm going to assume that part of this is the ability to infuse a spell into the sanctified weapon... utter bullshit that it doesn't take mana. No, we don't "infuse" mana into the weapon to cast the spell, but it does take mana once the weapon flares with the spell. Along with that, we have a limit on what spells we can infuse, both the type of spell, and how "high" it is on a spell list without major training in lore.
auction quality - Yeah, because Paladins aren't worthy of auction-quality items that are "personalized" to them. Uh huh. You do know that a sanctified weapon can't be used (with the extra goodies) by anybody else, right?
CrystalTears
04-02-2009, 01:27 PM
Threads that bring so many people together against one common dope brings tears to my eyes and gives me renewed faith in humanity. :tissue:
So much win I felt the need to record it for prosterity
Its like finding out a hooker gives it away for free to everyone except you.
So what if I took your 40th spell, whats that? Douche of power? And made it a part of curse, and where you had to buy expensive chalk to make it work, I just have to cum in a bucket and use that.
Oscuro has insulted me before, I can't give him payback on the officials, so I'm doing it here.
if you ever need someone to give honest feedback about the scifi novel you've been writing on and off since you were 14, I'm your guy.
Now your retort sir?
As to the actual spell I have not played in a while but I personally see this as being a reasonably useful utility for clerics to get to bodies slightly faster. I say slightly because if you can only warp to adjacent realms most scripts could easily duplicate the ease of use, they might just take slightly longer unless something earth shattering has happened in GS in the past 6+ months.
thefarmer
04-02-2009, 03:05 PM
Farmer, you keep repeating the same thing.
"You bring up paladin spells, I giggle like a little bitch"
Do you want me to reply or something? Are you going to tell me how wrong/whiny/gay/stupid/ugly/retarded I am for bringing up paladin spells? You've posted it three times trying to get me to take the bait fine...
1625 is the most powerful item enhancing spell in the game, it turns mundane weapons into auction quality. It requires no quest, no runestone, no component, no time, no mana infusing, all you do is kneel and prep/cast. That spell is certifiable bullshit. Then, to remove it and do another, its easy as hell as well.
Now your retort sir?
I keep repeating it because You're Just That Pathetic It's Amusing.
Again, you QQ before actually understanding the spell (as MGoddess explained to you). You did it with the Nexus update, and you've showed your ignorance with Sanctify.
Also..
I hesitate to post this, as I know it will not help the situation. But the fact is, Planar Shift (740) is vastly superior to Nexus. If you think they're alike, then you are oblivious to the details of each spell.
As Oscuro already stated, the ability to teleport to adjacent realms is extremely limited. In most cases, you cannot use it to travel from town to town and it is a one way ticket.
More so, Sorcerers do not own cross-realm teleportation. It's more the privy of Savants than Sorcerers.
GameMaster Estild
Cleric/Empath Team
I bet you're going to tell us that Estild made this statement to purposely insult you because you're just that important...
You seriously don't know shit, do you?
Actually, apparently you don't. Let me try to explain.
no time - Right... so the hunting people have to do to "bond" to the weapon isn't time? The only thing a paladin gets from the kneel/prep/cast business is permablessing the weapon in their hands.
So, the only thing that is instant is the permabless and plasma and spell infusing and start of the bonding. To actually get full bonding you have to spend time hunting.
Right, so... you weren't going to be hunting anyway? What if to enchant a weapon you just had to temper it then go swing it for awhile?
no mana infusing - I'm going to assume that part of this is the ability to infuse a spell into the sanctified weapon... utter bullshit that it doesn't take mana. No, we don't "infuse" mana into the weapon to cast the spell, but it does take mana once the weapon flares with the spell. Along with that, we have a limit on what spells we can infuse, both the type of spell, and how "high" it is on a spell list without major training in lore.
You would assume incorrectly. I was talking about the old enchant. See, up until the release of 1625, all permanent gear modification spells required time, components, ritual. With the old enchant you might spend 8 hours infusing. Good times. No such ritual is required for this permanent enhancement.
auction quality - Yeah, because Paladins aren't worthy of auction-quality items that are "personalized" to them. Uh huh. You do know that a sanctified weapon can't be used (with the extra goodies) by anybody else, right?
[/quote]So what, you're said because you can't sell it? You still save money by not having to buy an auction quality weapon. And what the fuck are you blabbering about not deserving a weapon? Paladins deserve access to auction items as much as any other profession. What they do not deserve is the ability to make them willy nilly without any component, time commitment, quest, or other requirement. At the very least 1625 should have required a katana-like quest. Possibly, though it'd be a retrofit, an alchemical conditioning oil made by clerics. Something more than just prep cast.
I keep repeating it because You're Just That Pathetic It's Amusing.
Again, you QQ before actually understanding the spell (as MGoddess explained to you). You did it with the Nexus update, and you've showed your ignorance with Sanctify.
Also..
I bet you're going to tell us that Estild made this statement to purposely insult you because you're just that important...
Really farmer, are you so desperate for a self esteem boost that you'll make such a tenuous argument against someone on the Internet? Or do you really think you're arguing from such a position of strength?
1625 produces an auction quality weapon with less effort than what takes to unlock a scroll, charge an item, make a lockpick, make a chrism gem, or complete 1 guild task.
Don't be such a dweeb. That goes to the rest of you too. Posting "God, I love hating Virilneus." does not hurt my feelings. Really, honest to god, Internet people don't hurt my feelings. It just makes me feel sorry for you that you need attention so badly, to come and "me too" a thread. Maybe give eharmony a try?
CrystalTears
04-02-2009, 03:37 PM
Is this where you start bitching about bards who never have to buy weapons and armor and weighs nothing?
Tsa`ah
04-02-2009, 03:37 PM
I had a talk with the Sr SGMs of Simu ... and they have confirmed that they just implement things just to piss crb off.
They have assured me that anything they do will indeed "grind his gear" ... so tomorrow will be a warrior announcement that has nothing to do with sorcs. Again ... this is just to piss him off.
Rolton-Sammich
04-02-2009, 03:38 PM
It just makes me feel sorry for you that you need attention so badly
:rofl:
So I take it this means your not going to CCF crb?
I'm cancelling one account as soon as a character transfer goes through. Going to downgrade another to prime, and I haven't decided about ccf yet. I'll probably still go though.
Xiandrena
04-02-2009, 03:39 PM
I'm seriously not trying to get the OP to target me here...but if you post on a public forum with your opinion on things do you really expect people not to also give a bit of their opinion as well?
Is this where you start bitching about bards who never have to buy weapons and armor and weighs nothing?
Its a pretty bitching ability, but no, thats bards' thing. That's their main benefit, I consider it their class defining ability, like raise dead for clerics.
CrystalTears
04-02-2009, 03:40 PM
Don't be such a dweeb. That goes to the rest of you too. Posting "God, I love hating Virilneus." does not hurt my feelings. Really, honest to god, Internet people don't hurt my feelings. It just makes me feel sorry for you that you need attention so badly, to come and "me too" a thread. Maybe give eharmony a try?Yet here you are, crying like a girl with a skinned knee about an online game and getting butt hurt and arguing back to those who don't agree with your argument.
I don't know nor care about you enough to like or dislike you.
I'm seriously not trying to get the OP to target me here...but if you post on a public forum with your opinion on things do you really expect people not to also give a bit of their opinion as well?
Opinion on the topic sure? Posting "lol at virilneus" is just stupid. Its not going to hurt my feelings, it really shouldn't make your day better unless you're a child, and in the end just reeks of being an attention whore.
ala this:
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/hl-6115745/family_guy_public_displays_of_writing_season_5/
Rolton-Sammich
04-02-2009, 03:43 PM
Is this where you start bitching about bards who never have to buy weapons and armor and weighs nothing?
PLUS... did you notice that bards AND paladins AND those bastard clerics get PERMABLESSED weapons? PERMABLESSED WEAPONS NEVER GET RELEASED ANYMOAR! Do you have ANY idea how much it costs for a SORCERER to find a PERMABLESSED runestaff???? It's effectively 235345x the cost!!
To the blog! :compbash:
Yet here you are, crying like a girl with a skinned knee about an online game and getting butt hurt and arguing back to those who don't agree with your argument.
I don't know nor care about you enough to like or dislike you.
Then why so many posts in the thread dear? Channeling your inner Meg Griffin?
StrayRogue
04-02-2009, 03:46 PM
He's only sore about 1625 because, as I recall, he had a 7x HCP sanct'd falchion for sell during the period of the paladin release. He was asking some stupid amount, say 30 million.
Then of course this spell is released and makes his weapon totally redundant.
The whinefest he posted on the forums that very day was hilarious.
thefarmer
04-02-2009, 03:49 PM
LOL
CrystalTears
04-02-2009, 03:50 PM
Then why so many posts in the thread dear? Channeling your inner Meg Griffin?
You mean all four (including this one) out of 75? Yeah, I'm on a mission.
I don't have to like or dislike you to know this was a fucking hilarious whinefest.
He's only sore about 1625 because, as I recall, he had a 7x HCP sanct'd falchion for sell during the period of the paladin release. He was asking some stupid amount, say 30 million.
Then of course this spell is released and makes his weapon totally redundant.
The whinefest he posted on the forums that very day was hilarious.
Nope, that had nothing to do with it, and I never asked for close to 30m on it. I sold it for 14m, profitably, and it wasn't HCP, not being armor, and it also wasn't HCW. I honestly don't remember what it's stats were it was so long ago, but it wasn't weighted.
1625 annoys me because sorcerers miss no opportunity for another component requirement, and we were told time and again by Nilven etal that all new spells would require such things, and THEN 1625 is released as prep/cast. Which, no reasonable person could defend as balanced. Seriously, it isn't like you cast the spell every hunt, and for what it provides a week long effort of grummaging, or questing, would be reasonable and on par with other similar abilities.
StrayRogue
04-02-2009, 03:51 PM
Sure it didn't.
You mean all four (including this one) out of 75? Yeah, I'm on a mission.
I don't have to like or dislike you to know this was a fucking hilarious whinefest.
Could you go into more detail about how hilarious the whinefest was, perhaps what made it different or more hilarious than other whinefests?
Stanley Burrell
04-02-2009, 03:52 PM
THEN 1625 is released as prep/cast. Which, no reasonable person could defend as balanced.
It's balanced.
Sure it didn't.
Just like I think forging and ET should be changed to use a maximum possible enchant based on metal type, making veil iron and golvern the best and only metals able to achieve 10x.
Naos liked the idea, people accused me of wanting it just to increase the value of my golvern, which I had a 120% profit margin on already. Well, guess what, all sold out of golvern, and I still think its an awesome idea and should be implemented.
Just to make this thread really bitching, I'm going to bring Iraq into it.
You're just like those losers who say we only went into Iraq for oil. Yes, we need oil, yes Iraq has oil, that does not mean one was the motivation for the other, you need a little bit more of a connection than that. (and in this specific case the fact that we repeatedly vetoed French & Russian attempts to remove sanctions which would have made the oil flow like never before should go to show you that oil wasn't our primary objective - nevermind the fact that we were getting oil already and by and large our main oil suppliers, Saudi not withstanding, are in our own hemisphere and if oil government our foreign interventionism why aren't when in Venezuela?).
Now we can talk about 325, 1625, Iraq, and how much everyone hates me and likes to post publicly about it so people know they hate me. Good times.
It's balanced.
You sir are unreasonable!
StrayRogue
04-02-2009, 03:58 PM
Sorry - I'd define a loser to be someone who has written 200 pages of ideas for an archaic text based role-playing game yet still manages to be a game-wide laughing stock.
Rolton-Sammich
04-02-2009, 04:00 PM
Just to make this thread really bitching, I'm going to bring Iraq into it.
You're just like those losers who say we only went into Iraq for oil. QQ
QQ
QQ
:up:
Sorry - I'd define a loser to be someone who has written 200 pages of ideas for an archaic text based role-playing game yet still manages to be a game-wide laughing stock.
Tell me how you really feel?
You used to be all nice to me, telling me how much you liked me. Then suddenly with this thread you're being all mean and nasty, what gives buddy?
Tsa`ah
04-02-2009, 04:05 PM
You can only rate a thread once ... even though it gets better with each passing page.
You suck Kranar.
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/hl-6115745/family_guy_public_displays_of_writing_season_5/
CrystalTears
04-02-2009, 04:09 PM
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/hl-6115745/family_guy_public_displays_of_writing_season_5/
And you're Meg. GG.
Oh shit this is my fifth post! I must be on some V vendetta! Oh noez!
Rolton-Sammich
04-02-2009, 04:13 PM
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/hl-6115745/family_guy_public_displays_of_writing_season_5/
Since you've posted that twice in the span of 30 minutes, have some revised coffee shop dialogue.
Guy on right: Hey, gettin' some posting done there buddy?
Guy on left: Yeah, postin' on my GS4 website so everybody can read my proposed profession ideas.
Guy on right: Me too. All real players need to have a place to collect their screeds. Otherwise, what's the point, right?
Guy on left: You should totally post that up!
Guy on right: Okay! Will you read it?
Since you've posted that twice in the span of 30 minutes, have some revised coffee shop dialogue.
Guy on right: Hey, gettin' some posting done there buddy?
Guy on left: Yeah, postin' on my GS4 website so everybody can read my proposed profession ideas.
Guy on right: Me too. All real players need to have a place to collect their screeds. Otherwise, what's the point, right?
Guy on left: You should totally post that up!
Guy on right: Okay! Will you read it?
I don't think you understand the irony of family guy.
The writers weren't skewering writing. They were skewering the need of some people to let others know that they're writing, the people who want attention.
The act of writing, nor the act of publishing what you have written, are not things that writers would make fun of.
If you need help understanding any more jokes, I'll be glad to help.
ElvenFury
04-02-2009, 04:18 PM
Ugh, not to jump on the "Me too!" bandwagon, but I can't let all these Family Guy references slide...
FAMILY GUY SUCKS!
<breath> ...carry on...
Now we can discuss Family Guy, Iraq, 1625, 325, and people hating me. Awesome!
ElvenFury
04-02-2009, 04:21 PM
Glad to help! :-)
Rolton-Sammich
04-02-2009, 04:22 PM
I don't think you understand the irony of family guy.
The writers weren't skewering writing. They were skewering the need of some people to let others know that they're writing, the people who want attention.
The act of writing, nor the act of publishing what you have written, are not things that writers would make fun of.
If you need help understanding any more jokes, I'll be glad to help.
I'm not sure that you understand the ridiculousness of having, beyond an official forum at which to bitch at GMs (where your posts are pulled), and beyond an unofficial forum at which to bitch vaguely in the direction of GMs (where you are roundly mocked), your own place to post the same damn bitching for the world to see but no one can say any mean things about the pile of inane ramblings.
And the fact that you compare that to a serious act of publishing makes the entire thing ever so much more hilarious.
:tumble:
I'm not sure that you understand the ridiculousness of having, beyond an official forum at which to bitch at GMs (where your posts are pulled), and beyond an unofficial forum at which to bitch vaguely in the direction of GMs (where you are roundly mocked), your own place to post the same damn bitching for the world to see but no one can say any mean things about the pile of inane ramblings.
And the fact that you compare that to a serious act of publishing makes the entire thing ever so much more hilarious.
:tumble:
Ya, having a blog is so ridiculous of me. God, what was I thinking? Blogging... who the fuck does that?
I mean, shit, Gemstone is a hobby of mine, though I've played less lately, on average it is 5-10 hours a week, but man, I know what you're saying, normally to blog about a hobby you should put in 20 hours a week in that hobby, otherwise you're just being a douche, amiright?
Rolton-Sammich
04-02-2009, 04:35 PM
Ya, having a blog is so ridiculous of me. God, what was I thinking? Blogging... who the fuck does that?
I mean, shit, Gemstone is a hobby of mine, though I've played less lately, on average it is 5-10 hours a week, but man, I know what you're saying, normally to blog about a hobby you should put in 20 hours a week in that hobby, otherwise you're just being a douche, amiright?
I say, yes, that was clearly my point. All blogging is ridiculous. Well done.
CrystalTears
04-02-2009, 04:37 PM
Ya, having a blog is so ridiculous of me. God, what was I thinking? Blogging... who the fuck does that?
I mean, shit, Gemstone is a hobby of mine, though I've played less lately, on average it is 5-10 hours a week, but man, I know what you're saying, normally to blog about a hobby you should put in 20 hours a week in that hobby, otherwise you're just being a douche, amiright?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v412/Jemah/funnies/missingthepoint.png
mgoddess
04-02-2009, 05:05 PM
This thread is so full of win, I just can't stop laughing.
:lol2:
zhelas
04-02-2009, 05:06 PM
Okay I am going to really try and care a lot about this thread..... trying.... almost there.......
If the changes to 325 are soooooo super elite and make 740 a joke. Then post the logs proving it.
Okay I have stopped caring at the moment....... :popcorn:
TheWitch
04-02-2009, 05:25 PM
Viril over-reacted (I know, thank you Captain Obvious. You're welcome.).
He actually admitted that on the officials, in a roundabout sort of way.
740 still pwns 325, hands down.
I'm with Evarin, this is a capital time to relook at the price of the chalks, etc. for 740 - they are very expensive considering the spell can also kill you which 325 can't do and neither can the chronos.
Strathspey is actually paying attention right now, and honestly, as much as I recognize the tendancy for players of sorcerers to complain...
Nilven sucked, hard. He promised us a bunch of shit, said a bunch of shit about the "ways of the future" which were either him thinking he was way more important than he actually was, total bull or true at the time and no longer are - then disappeared. Leaving spells riddled with bugs and a profession saddle with componenents the like of which just do not exist anywhere in the game except alchemy. Which is supposed to be optional, but is looking like the bandaid Stathspey is going to use to fix much of what's broken with sorcery. Go, go, gadget phase.
I was on my break during the glorified Romulus years, so I really have only read about them. But since I came back five years ago, there was a flurry of activity right after the conversion and then for about a year after that.
Then ..... nothing.
So yea, we can be over the top. But the lack of ... anything in sorcery - 4 year old bugs, COME ON!@!!, really grates on ones nerves.
Having said all that, Viril. Calm down.
zhelas
04-02-2009, 05:34 PM
I'm with Evarin, this is a capital time to relook at the price of the chalks, etc. for 740 - they are very expensive considering the spell can also kill you which 325 can't do and neither can the chronos..
That would be nice. Truthfully I like the risk. Probably I have just gotten use to the high costs. But with the right training in Demonology the majority of the risk is trained away.
Strathspey is actually paying attention right now, and honestly, as much as I recognize the tendancy for players of sorcerers to complain...
Nilven sucked, hard. He promised us a bunch of shit, said a bunch of shit about the "ways of the future" which were either him thinking he was way more important than he actually was, total bull or true at the time and no longer are - then disappeared. Leaving spells riddled with bugs and a profession saddle with componenents the like of which just do not exist anywhere in the game except alchemy. Which is supposed to be optional, but is looking like the bandaid Stathspey is going to use to fix much of what's broken with sorcery. Go, go, gadget phase.
Looking at the number of potential recipes in QC for Sorcerery I have begun the hated alchemy.
Peace
Having said all that, Viril. Calm down.
I'm exceedingly calm. I'm the most laid back person you'll ever meet. Opinionated? Yup. Argumentative? Sure. Utterly without Tact? I guess, I prefer to be blunt. Merciless? pretty much. Rude? Sometimes, but always calm. My blood pressure is exceedingly low. I know it must be hard to believe based on my posting that I'm laid back, but pushing someone's buttons to get them riled up and or pointing out the holes in someone's reasoning is more stress release than anything else. That I don't get all sad and go running when someone on the Internetz calls me a loser probably is what has endowed me with such honor abomg the PC Forums emo kids.
diethx
04-02-2009, 06:54 PM
Damn.
Swami71
04-02-2009, 07:24 PM
I'm exceedingly calm. I'm the most laid back person you'll ever meet. Opinionated? Yup. Argumentative? Sure. Utterly without Tact? I guess, I prefer to be blunt. Merciless? pretty much. Rude? Sometimes, but always calm.
I believe those are exact opposites. You can't be upset and calm at the same time. I think you're in denial.
Rathain
04-02-2009, 07:26 PM
If I could reroll into a cleric and keep my exp, I would be tempted, I will not lie.
You'd probably be disappointed with the results. If you found the sorcerer profession spell list lacking in diversity and usefulness, you'll be falling asleep playing a cleric.
Tea & Strumpets
04-02-2009, 07:46 PM
I'm exceedingly calm. I'm the most laid back person you'll ever meet. Opinionated? Yup. Argumentative? Sure. Utterly without Tact? I guess, I prefer to be blunt. Merciless? pretty much. Rude? Sometimes, but always calm. My blood pressure is exceedingly low. I know it must be hard to believe based on my posting that I'm laid back, but pushing someone's buttons to get them riled up and or pointing out the holes in someone's reasoning is more stress release than anything else. That I don't get all sad and go running when someone on the Internetz calls me a loser probably is what has endowed me with such honor abomg the PC Forums emo kids.
You could have just said that you are smug and egocentric.
I might have missed your point because I was chuckling at how you verbally masturbate about how great you are.
AnticorRifling
04-02-2009, 07:51 PM
You could have just said that you are smug and egocentric.
I might have missed your point because I was chuckling at how you verbally masturbate about how great you are.
Sometimes when I verbally masturbate I say no, but I know I still want it and I do it anyway.
Tea & Strumpets
04-02-2009, 07:53 PM
Sometimes when I verbally masturbate I say no, but I know I still want it and I do it anyway.
I'm not talking to you because of that other thread. FU.
An australian study recently showed that people who verbally masturbate frequently have a 70% lower risk of mouth cancer. Something about flushing the system, go figure.
I believe those are exact opposites. You can't be upset and calm at the same time. I think you're in denial.
You can believe those are exact opposites, just like you can believe Jesus is the son of God. It doesn't make it true though.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/argumentative
Maybe a pop culture example. Simon Cowell is argumentative, but he stays calm when arguing with a contestant, he rarely gets riled up. Understand the difference? I'm like Simon, just with more than one T-shirt.
Warriorbird
04-02-2009, 09:21 PM
You're like Simon... yet much less cool... and I don't like Simon Cowell...
You're also like Simon if he said stuff that had no point...
Wait a minute... you're not really like Simon Cowell at all.
Swami71
04-02-2009, 09:24 PM
Maybe a pop culture example. Simon Cowell is argumentative, but he stays calm when arguing with a contestant, he rarely gets riled up. Understand the difference? I'm like Simon, just with more than one T-shirt.
I can see that. Now you're making sense.
Methais
04-02-2009, 10:09 PM
I dunno, I think most of Viril's complaints over the years have been pretty legit. Sorcerers have gotten the shaft almost the whole time since growing pains.
He might go overboard sometimes and his solutions might not always be the best, but I can see exactly where he's coming from here, since pretty much the same thing happened to wizards when they nerfed Charge Item into uselessness and then came out with Scroll Infusion for sorcs not long after.
I don't see a reason why Simu shouldn't buff sorcerer teleportation, at least in the components department. Even if the cost is the same, the annoyance factor should be dropped way down. I don't really know how the spell works but from what I hear it's annoying to deal with, especially with the failure chance on top of it all.
Fallen
04-02-2009, 11:08 PM
They will be, in time. I think Strathspey knows that chalk needs to be tweaked. He did say as much.
Methais
04-02-2009, 11:46 PM
They will be, in time. I think Strathspey knows that chalk needs to be tweaked. He did say as much.
Going by Simu's perception of what time is, I'd probably take that with a grain of salt, despite the good things I hear about Strathspey.
Tisket
04-03-2009, 02:03 AM
I'm like Simon
Do you ever get tired of being wrong?
Just kidding, I know you don't.
Warriorbird
04-03-2009, 05:20 AM
I think everybody'd mind Virilneus's complaints far less if he didn't BAWWWW every time another profession got something as though it took directly from sorcerors rathers than was a miraculous occurrence of actual game development.
Daniel
04-03-2009, 07:33 AM
Why this thread hasn't degenerated into a waaahhhhmbahlance picture posting fest is beyond me.
I lol at his outbursts frequently, although everytime I've seen him have one the reason has been completely valid.
Just hilarious to watch him go, though.
I almost don't care about sorcerers being raped while others are tweaked just to watch him.
DaCapn
04-03-2009, 08:26 AM
I don't know if anyone else has mentioned it since 30 seconds is about all I'm willing to devote to reading about sorcerers...
But the synchronicity between crb's avatar and his original post is fucking hilarious.
You're like Simon... yet much less cool... and I don't like Simon Cowell...
You're also like Simon if he said stuff that had no point...
Wait a minute... you're not really like Simon Cowell at all.
I'm glad to be like Simon. He tells the truth.
That you dislike him is unsurprising to me. You have always seemed like the type of person who'd rather be lied to.
conair4022
04-03-2009, 09:10 AM
I don't know if anyone else has mentioned it since 30 seconds is about all I'm willing to devote to reading about sorcerers...
But the synchronicity between crb's avatar and his original post is fucking hilarious.
Ditto on the Choice of our Avatar.
as for rape of sorc spells, thats just SIMU ... kinda easy to do stuff if
every profession has a variations of the same ability.
Ignot
04-03-2009, 11:28 AM
I don't even think a cross-realm travel spell is that good. You can run around Mule, Landing, and Haven in a minute, you can't go to teras with it (from what I understand), so that just leaves the Nations. If I were a sorc player, I would be more pissed about having a high slot taken up by such a crappy spell. I would much rather have a combat spell or some other type of utility spell that isn't lame.
Lord Orbstar
04-03-2009, 12:05 PM
all 40th level spells are sort of meh. I think 740 is cool. Although I dont play a sorceror, nor ever have. that makes me an internet authority on them.
Allereli
04-03-2009, 12:14 PM
If I were a sorc player, I would be more pissed about having a high slot taken up by such a crappy spell. I would much rather have a combat spell or some other type of utility spell that isn't lame.
740 is far from a crappy spell. it's instant access with little risk to potentially 200 rooms in the game. No ice patches, ferries or creatures to worry about. I can go from the cottage in OTF to the statue on Teras in less than 10 seconds.
TheWitch
04-03-2009, 12:18 PM
All I've ever really played are sorcerers (I dabble in roguery but that's about it), and I think 740 is great.
It gets less great every time something like it is released, in a loss of uniqueness sort of way. Like the chronos, the dragonflies, and now a wee bit of 325.
But all of those combined do not give you the flexibility for literally instant travel that 740 does. It's a pain in the ass to gather up the runes for your book, or at least it can be if you don't have another sorcerers book to use.
Once you have, them, though. Man. It rocks to be standing on the dais and 3 seconds later be standing at the statue on Teras.
That said, the severity of failure is over the top. IE, I rifted to Teras to take a break from Illy and alchemy - and failed the first attempt. When I go back, I plan on using the dragonfly to Cysagier and walking the rest of the way. Not because of the cost, but with 91 ranks of demonology, I fail one in three. I know, I know, it's not supposed to be that high. For me, it has been.
I'd actually rather see portals installed, and 740 given over to lich form.
Which will never happen.
Suppa Hobbit Mage
04-03-2009, 12:50 PM
Maybe a pop culture example. Simon Cowell is argumentative, but he stays calm when arguing with a contestant, he rarely gets riled up. Understand the difference? I'm like Simon, just with more than one T-shirt.
LMAO
Really. I'm trying to remember when Simon told a singer fuck you because they sang a song in a different fashion than he liked. Or attacked them. He might say "I think you are at risk this week", which would be like the GS equivalent of "You may lose some customers because of this", but certainly not FU.
You have delusions of grandure. Your position invariably comes off as a child who just had his toys taken away. I'm probably like that myself, but I never have presented myself as not getting riled up. ROFL.
Fallen
04-03-2009, 01:11 PM
All I've ever really played are sorcerers (I dabble in roguery but that's about it), and I think 740 is great.
It gets less great every time something like it is released, in a loss of uniqueness sort of way. Like the chronos, the dragonflies, and now a wee bit of 325.
But all of those combined do not give you the flexibility for literally instant travel that 740 does. It's a pain in the ass to gather up the runes for your book, or at least it can be if you don't have another sorcerers book to use.
Once you have, them, though. Man. It rocks to be standing on the dais and 3 seconds later be standing at the statue on Teras.
That said, the severity of failure is over the top. IE, I rifted to Teras to take a break from Illy and alchemy - and failed the first attempt. When I go back, I plan on using the dragonfly to Cysagier and walking the rest of the way. Not because of the cost, but with 91 ranks of demonology, I fail one in three. I know, I know, it's not supposed to be that high. For me, it has been.
I'd actually rather see portals installed, and 740 given over to lich form.
Which will never happen.
If they open up portals I still want 740. Just make the chalk as cheap as the other chalk is now, and somewhere down the line have it gain a big secondary effect. 740 is a great spell. The only thing that needs to be changed is the price. Strathspey seems to get the idea. He will be making adjacent realms travel cheaper, which is all that really needs to be done before the review. AFTER the review, I want the option to take people with me in Adjacent realms transportation.
Mtenda
04-03-2009, 01:22 PM
This thread makes me think of
http://static.tvguide.com/MediaBin/Galleries/Shows/A_F/Cq_Cz/Criminal_Minds/season4/criminal-minds145.jpg
TheWitch
04-03-2009, 01:32 PM
That was an awesome episode....
But I don't get the connection.
Parkbandit
04-03-2009, 01:36 PM
You have delusions of grandure. Your position invariably comes off as a child who just had his toys taken away. I'm probably like that myself, but I never have presented myself as not getting riled up. ROFL.
In Virilneus' defense.. he did save Gemstone:
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e6/belike53/internet-soldier.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e6/belike53/Virilneus.jpg
CrystalTears
04-03-2009, 01:37 PM
In Virilneus' defense.. he did save Gemstone:
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e6/belike53/Virilneus.jpg
:rofl: Best picture ever.
Mtenda
04-03-2009, 01:42 PM
That was an awesome episode....
But I don't get the connection.
Meh. It's really because I just saw it so it's on the brain.
PB - LOL
conair4022
04-03-2009, 05:30 PM
Meh. It's really because I just saw it so it's on the brain.
PB - LOL
big fan of mass murders on booby tube, my first thought were ... fabio lost his hair to 'can't stands ya', and he kinda act like his character in aquiring 7 of 9, and he had a full wig that time too
... hair = bad acting!
conair4022
04-03-2009, 05:34 PM
That was an awesome episode....
But I don't get the connection.
140 rank of demon lore = no death on inter-realm hoppity
but the irony for me is that no amount of lore can reduce the randomness of death with intra-realm cheap chalk, that small percentage always get ya.
Hence the hop to everywhere is safer than a hop within an area.
Oppps, got the second quote heh, I meant her limbness previous quote on chalk and no walk death thing
Allereli
04-03-2009, 05:36 PM
but the irony for me is that no amount of lore can reduce the randomness of death with intra-realm cheap chalk, that small percentage always get ya.
you die intra-realm? I only get minors
conair4022
04-03-2009, 05:43 PM
you die intra-realm? I only get minors
yup yup, but i kinda do the cheap chalk alot, so maybe the sheer number of attempt caught up with me, but once I get shadow bitten twice for all my troubles, I just quit and start walking ... haven't used a gold ring in ages.
not gonna die from jumping to ferry dock path just to check on the schedule, thats the stoopidest death on my death list of shame.
Allereli
04-03-2009, 05:45 PM
yup yup, but i kinda do the cheap chalk alot, so maybe the sheer number of attempt caught up with me, but once I get shadow bitten twice for all my troubles, I just quit and start walking ... haven't used a gold ring in ages.
do you have no demonology at all?
conair4022
04-03-2009, 05:56 PM
went from a high of 180 to close 148 now, since the 140 rank is the 100% non kill for cross-realm, I wasn't interested in weight of a demon mule like Sereg, but I was interested if over train rank makes intra-realm travel safer.
So since I die and get minors with or without the added ranks, I am slowly putting it back into necro, think i had that split of 140/60 before testing it.
Safe for me to take a cross realm trip, but not from illistim town to dock!
Allereli
04-03-2009, 06:00 PM
went from a high of 180 to close 148 now, since the 140 rank is the 100% non kill for cross-realm, I wasn't interested in weight of a demon mule like Sereg, but I was interested if over train rank makes intra-realm travel safer.
Send me a message next time you die on an intra-realm. I only have 75 ranks, never had a death, and have been going through about a stick a week.
conair4022
04-03-2009, 06:03 PM
Send me a message next time you die on an intra-realm. I only have 75 ranks, never had a death, and have been going through about a stick a week.
ah, the gods of randomness favors you. okie, my death log awaits ya
Proxy
04-06-2009, 11:02 PM
So... Whats this thread about?
Methais
04-06-2009, 11:06 PM
So... Whats this thread about?
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Celephais
04-06-2009, 11:09 PM
So... Whats this thread about?
I think it's about goatse, you should post pictures so that you can fit in.
Methais
04-07-2009, 12:22 AM
Holy fuck I did a google image search for FAKE GOATSE to find some old pic, and instead I find....
Well just click the 18th result.
Warriorbird
04-07-2009, 02:51 AM
So... Whats this thread about?
http://4gifs.com/gallery/d/32494-1/4lmao.jpg
TheRoseLady
04-09-2009, 09:06 PM
I bestowed more rep in this thread, than probably ever before. Definitely one of the best threads in a long time.
Parkbandit
04-09-2009, 09:56 PM
I bestowed more rep in this thread, than probably ever before. Definitely one of the best threads in a long time.
OBVIOUSLY YOU MISSED MY PICTURES I POSTED BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T GIVE ME FUCKING REP.
TheRoseLady
04-14-2009, 12:14 AM
OBVIOUSLY YOU MISSED MY PICTURES I POSTED BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T GIVE ME FUCKING REP.
Won't let me rep you, I've tried. <3
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