Wizard training critique

[Reyek]

Just wondering what you guys thought of my training for my 41 train wizard. I trained for the ability to enchant and fight. that being said...

Skill Name | Actual Actual
| Bonus Ranks Goals Time to Goal
Physical Fitness...................| 74 16 16
Arcane Symbols.....................| 185 85 85
Magic Item Use.....................| 186 86 86
Spell Aiming.......................| 186 86 86
Harness Power......................| 158 58 58
Elemental Mana Control.............| 142 42 42
Elemental Lore - Fire..............| 105 25 25
Perception.........................| 120 30 30
Climbing...........................| 90 20 20
Swimming...........................| 70 15 15

Spell Lists
Major Elemental....................| 20 20

Spell Lists
Minor Elemental....................| 43 43

Spell Lists
Wizard.............................| 45 45

Strength (STR): 97 (23) ... 97 (23)
Constitution (CON): 94 (17) ... 94 (17)
Dexterity (DEX): 70 (20) ... 70 (20)
Agility (AGI): 52 (6) ... 52 (6)
Discipline (DIS): 92 (11) ... 92 (11)
Aura (AUR): 97 (33) ... 102 (36)
Logic (LOG): 100 (25) ... 105 (27)
Intuition (INT): 59 (9) ... 59 (9)
Wisdom (WIS): 83 (21) ... 83 (21)
Influence (INF): 83 (11) ... 83 (11)

[Siefer]

Drop perception down to 24 ranks. Single fire lore. 2x AS. Maybe lose 5 ranks of climbing. Don't overtrain Minor Elemental, drop 2 ranks of it.

[Reyek]

my AS is 2x missing 1 rank but about to get that in less then 30 minutes (heh)... why not train in the minor circle. doesnt the more spells you have give you an AS bonus up to 475? I do plan on catching up my fire lores so thats a given. just had to sacrafice that for my enchanting ability....

[Kitsun]

I don't think Arcane Symbol has been proven to help/hinder enchanting ability at all.

I'd tank AS to 1x. Bring up your Harness Power to 1.5x or so, then you have more mana to hunt with.

[Siefer]

Overtraining Minor Elemental past your current level doesn't boost your 425 AS. So if you're level 41 you should have 41 ranks of Minor Elemental. Wizard ranks are probably the primary factor in enchanting but I like having 2x magical skills. Can't hurt you...


Khajiit (at level 43), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Armor Use..........................| 10 2
Brawling...........................| 5 1
Physical Fitness...................| 102 24
Arcane Symbols.....................| 190 90
Magic Item Use.....................| 190 90
Spell Aiming.......................| 190 90
Harness Power......................| 190 90
Elemental Mana Control.............| 145 45
Elemental Lore - Fire..............| 145 45
Perception.........................| 102 24
Climbing...........................| 70 15
Swimming...........................| 70 15

Spell Lists
Major Elemental....................| 29

Spell Lists
Minor Elemental....................| 43

Spell Lists
Wizard.............................| 30



Name: Khajiit Skyrim Race: Halfling Profession: Wizard (shown as: Enchanter)
Gender: Male Age: 121 Expr: 1974644 Level: 43
Normal (Bonus) ... Enhanced (Bonus)
Strength (STR): 81 (0) ... 81 (0)
Constitution (CON): 51 (10) ... 51 (10)
Dexterity (DEX): 86 (33) ... 86 (33)
Agility (AGI): 81 (25) ... 81 (25)
Discipline (DIS): 49 (-5) ... 49 (-5)
Aura (AUR): 100 (20) ... 100 (20)
Logic (LOG): 100 (30) ... 100 (30)
Intuition (INT): 100 (35) ... 100 (35)
Wisdom (WIS): 83 (16) ... 83 (16)
Influence (INF): 83 (11) ... 83 (11)
Mana: 189 Silver: 0

[Siefer]

BTW what race are you?

[J-Tech]

I belive its an AS bonus up to 70 ranks, and 430 is a DS bonus up to 75 ranks...or something like that.

J.T.

[J-Tech]

So at lvl 35 i have 42 ranks in MinorE, your saying them extra ranks arnt giving my 425 a boost to my CS and AS?

J.T.

[Siefer]

From play.net

Overtraining in Minor Elemental spell ranks does not yield additional bonus past the caster's level.

[Reyek]

Dark Elf...not that i dont believe you but do you have a link to where it says over training in minor elemental doesnt affect it?

[Edited on 2-15-2004 by Reyek]

[Siefer]

http://www.play.net/gs4/info/spells/spelllist.asp?circle=1#425

[Reyek]

Duration: 900 seconds +30 seconds for every Minor Elemental spell known

Type: Bonus

This spell provides a plus to attacks:

- To the Attack Strength it gives a base of +25, plus the number of Spell Ranks above 25 that the caster knows in the Minor Elemental Circle divided by 2. The maximum bonus allowed is 50.

- To the Elemental Casting Strength it gives a base of +25, plus the number of Spell Ranks above 25 that the caster knows in the Minor Elemental Circle divided by 2. The maximum bonus allowed is 50. This spell affords no benefit to Spirit Casting Strength. It does provide a bonus to all other spell Casting Strength (+13, plus the number of Spell Ranks above 25 that the caster knows in the Minor Elemental Circle divided by 4), to a maximum of +25.



No where in there does it say it doesnt give you a benefit if you over train.... maybe they changed this on you?

[Siefer]

It says it under 430. I doubt overtraining would work for one and not the other. I'm guessing someone forgot to put it in under 425 as well. Maybe Askip or someone who knows more about this could share some info.

[AnticorRifling]

It works for me, my swing goes up with my 425 training.

Currently have 63 minor ranks at lvl 51 and my swing reflects it.
Unless I'm doing the math wrong I'm going to say your assumption is off base on this one.

[J-Tech]

Anticor told me he over trains it and he still gets the full bonus, i think someones smokeing some goofy shit here...

J.T.

[Reyek]

I just did an ASSIST over it. Overtraining in 400's does give you a bonus to 425. Tada Anitcor is right.

[Bobmuhthol]

What a waste of an assist, we already knew that.

[Reyek]

we didnt know. we were assuming and conflicting info. and how is it a waste? not like your limited on the amount of assists you can do.

[AnticorRifling]

Originally posted by Reyek
I just did an ASSIST over it. Overtraining in 400's does give you a bonus to 425. Tada Anitcor is right.

Was there ever a doupt? I am, after all, Anticor. :cool:

Glad you found out what you needed to know.

[Siefer]

I figured that 425 was capped to prevent tanking Minor Elemental and power hunting. I don't understand why 430 is capped. Doesn't make sense to me.

[Reyek]

i dont make the rules just follow them. heh technically it is capped at 475 :)

[Reyek]

Name: Great Lord Devlun Damonious
Profession: Thaumaturge
Race: Dark Elf Gender: Male
Member of Twilight Hall
Strongest foe vanquished: a massive black boar

yea i killed it.. go me

[Reyek]

Name: Great Lord Devlun Damonious
Profession: Thaumaturge
Race: Dark Elf Gender: Male
Member of Twilight Hall
Strongest foe vanquished: a lesser griffin

w00t even better!

[J-Tech]

Chumpster.

J.T.

[Reyek]

your just jealous. ;)

[AnticorRifling]

Originally posted by Reyek
Name: Great Lord Devlun Damonious
Profession: Thaumaturge
Race: Dark Elf Gender: Male
Member of Twilight Hall
Strongest foe vanquished: a lesser griffin

w00t even better!

It's only cool if you killed it solo :cool:

[J-Tech]

What lvl are lesser griffin's?

J.T.

[Reyek]

69

[Frostravin]

Devlun sucks just admit it!

[Reyek]

You just mad cause Devlun pwns Fallon.

[Reyek]

health
You seem to be in one piece.

Maximum Health Points: 113
Remaining Health Points: 113

Maximum Spirit Points: 11
Remaining Spirit Points: 11

Maximum Stamina Points: 37
Remaining Stamina Points: 37

its all about the 11 spirit ...