Best PvP

[kazman32]

What is the strongest PvP class in Gemstone 4?

[Meos]

empaths

[Reyek]

yea they can dispell you fear you and then bone shatter and all while in defensive.... grrr. and if your lucky enough to hit them they can heal them selves heh

[Kitsun]

I think it depends under what circumstances...taking someone by surprise is different than making them fight out in the open in a no-hide place.

Most classes have the ability to pull off a first-move win. Voln Fu right now is freaking busted. But if someone disables you, you won't get a chance to use it. A rogue can just slip into hiding and only another archer will ever be able to find em.

[Reyek]

rogue slips into hiding....
wizard casts ewave/major ewave....
rogue falls out of hiding.....


Unless the rogue is way older then the wizard.

Rogue slips into hiding...
ranger casts sunburst...
rogue is revealed...

Hiding isnt all that.
does have good advantages for some tatics.

[Zir]

Rogue slips into hiding.
Rogue stalks wizard.
Wizard casts ewave.
Rogue shoots wizard in eye.

Sunburst...well that could be a problem.

[Reyek]

whenever i duel i cast ewave instantly or call wind. before they can jump into hiding and stalk. need to be quick. pretty much it comes down to who can get the first move off. usually can win the duel unless they are a moron. heh or its completely uneven of a fight.

when i duel at the count of 3 on my wizard i go invis and do a ewave/call wind combo to put them on the ground in rt. then depending on the target rapid fire dispell then bolt.

[Miss X]

When I duel (as an empath) its pretty simple. I cast 1140 at the target to make sure their TD is low, then 1106 and bone shatter them. I can do all of this in guarded stance which means its hard for someone who swings or bolts to hurt me unless they have spirit strike or a really high AS.

[Reyek]

that tatic works well. trust me i seen it! ;) but if you were to duel a ranger and the spike thorned you, or the rogue hide/sweep/ ambush its different. and if you went against a sorcerer and they imploded you its a matter of who can cast first.

[Edaarin]

prep 410
cast
hide
thing dies

[Reyek]

another example how who ever is fastest can win...

[Shalla]

When was the last time the Arena was used?

[Hulkein]

Does it still work that when you type 'leave' if someone is stalking you they're kicked out of your group? I know this worked like 6 months ago.

Rogue hides
rogue stalks wizard
wizard types 'leave'
prep 435
cast

Rogue has no idea what happened.

[J-Tech]

Rogue stalks wizard
wizard marches in a direction
wizard comes back
wizard 435's
wizard PWNZ!

J.T.

[Artha]

Rogue sweeps wizard.
Rogue swiftkicks wizard.
Rogue ambushes wizard.
Rogue wins.

[Edaarin]

Swiftkick is absolutely useless.

[Sean]

1140 isn't that good because it doesn't dispell any prepped spells and its heavily age based. if your gonna waste your time 1140ing me as a cleric you better hope i can't ward you with my bane while you're doing it. also it doesn't strip elemental spells.

[Syberus]

I can't help but feel sorry for whoever is beaten by an empath.

[Artha]

Swiftkick is absolutely useless.

You're right, I had forgotten about the changes to ambush (I use bows). I guess that could be cut down a step, then.

[Meos]

prep 505
cast smart ass
prep 525
cast
'enjoy the show
sign of darkness

[Edited on 2-15-2004 by Meos]

[Artha]

Remind me never to get into an argument with Meos.

[Scott]

Demeanor rogue cold
5
4
3
2
1
Wizard lays down
GO!
Rogue tries to sweep wizard to put him into wizard so he can hide and stalk but can't because Wizard is on the ground.
Wizard ewaves
Wizard 519's/415
Wizard wins.

[Nakiro]

Originally posted by Tijay
1140 isn't that good because it doesn't dispell any prepped spells and its heavily age based. if your gonna waste your time 1140ing me as a cleric you better hope i can't ward you with my bane while you're doing it. also it doesn't strip elemental spells.

I have to disagree. Elemental spells won't add to TD so they're not a problem anyway, and even at like-age 1140 will still consistantly dispell 3+ spells.

Yah if they can hit you in one hit you're probably screwed anyway though, but that generally isn't the case especially with clerics.

[Varsus]

all this hidin is crap
get 1 arrow from my quiver
fire (target)

As 400 vs DS (not 400) byby eye

also my empath bone shatters at 315, which is higher than most self spelled td's of any class his age, thats SELF SPELLED, which is how all duels should go... if its just killin people... heh I dono.


-Varsus (it all comes down to who types faster)

[Reyek]

its all about rapid fire 901 :)

[Drew2]

I haven't been auto-logging or else I'd pull up my duels from last night.

I beat Chadj (yay) and Whirlin (Same age, if not 1 level higher, wizard).

I also killed Pudgee, and Rasko.

Empaths pwn, I'm afraid.


[I realized killing Rarr wasn't note-worthy]

[Edited on 2-17-2004 by Tayre]

[AnticorRifling]

Last duel I had was against a warrior. I sat down, then went inviso, cast haste, cast call wind, hit him till he was almost dead, then 415 for shits and giggles.

I'll be the first to tell you I'm not the best dueler.

[Fraidycat]

I think a sorcerer with a glass amulet and implode (then take yer pick of horrid ways to perish) combined with really really crapping fast actions = youch

[ZGemstone]

I'm not the best dueler, but I personally like this tactic with my rogue:
sweep
prep 410
cast 410
swiftkick
kneel
hide
fire cross at target

[Galleazzo]

Clerics PWN!

[Stunseed]

I can disable/kill Tayre and he's what, 6 trains on me? In a duel setting, I've actually truly dueled once. We all know the result of me and Hulkein. I fare pretty well for a Ranger.

As my Wizard, pick your poison. We all know most wizard plans for dueling.

[Parkbandit]

It's not the profession that makes a successful dueler.. it's the player behind it.

It's all about tactics.

[Parkbandit]

Originally posted by Tayre
I haven't been auto-logging or else I'd pull up my duels from last night.

I beat Chadj (yay) and Whirlin (Same age, if not 1 level higher, wizard).

I also killed Pudgee, and Rasko.

Empaths pwn, I'm afraid.


[I realized killing Rarr wasn't note-worthy]

[Edited on 2-17-2004 by Tayre]

Actually.. empaths are pretty easily beated. They typically have lower defense, lower dexterity and no spell that isn't CS based.

While you may play a good empath dueler.. it's hardly the norm and hardly the best dueling profession.

[Drew2]

>111 ro
>
You utter a light chant and raise your hands, beckoning the lesser spirits to aid you with the Fire Spirit spell...
Your spell is ready.
>
You gesture at a rolton.
You hurl a roaring ball of fire at a rolton!
AS: +315 vs DS: -4 with AvD: +70 + d100 roll: +19 = +408
... and hit for 168 points of damage!
Flame sets a rolton's head alight like a torch. Burned beyond recognition.
The rolton collapses to the ground, emits a final bleat, and dies.
The roaring ball of fire strikes a rolton, blossoming into a much larger sphere of flame upon impact.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.

And that's without spirit strike and madness.

I THINK YOU ARE WRONG, MY FRIEND.


Also, I'd like to see your thieving self dispel a cloud.

[Edited on 2-26-2004 by Tayre]

[Drew2]

Dexterity (DEX): 55 (12) ... 55 (12)
Agility (AGI): 66 (13) ... 66 (13)

You were right about the other thing though.

[Artha]

Also, I'd like to see your thieving self dispel a cloud.

Why bother? I'd hide and stalk you until the cloud dissipated, then I'd stick a knife (or, in my case, an arrow) somewhere unpleasant.

[Solkern]

Rogue slips into hiding
rogue stalks wizard
Wizard goes inviso
Wizard disbands group
wizard cast e-wave

Rogue Slips into hiding
rogue stalks wizard
wizard disbands group
wizard cast e-wave

rogue slips into hiding
rogue stalks wizard
wizard hides
wizard cast e-wave

hiding isn't that great

[Solkern]

Razzkazz was one of the best dueling wizards i've ever seen
he was a fully built offensive wizard
That could hide as good as anyone.
wizards that can hide, are as deadly as they can get

[Lobster]

What I do against a pure:

Ranger preps 616
Ranger casts
Ranger dies
You hear the ghostly voice of a Ranger "crap, spiked myself again"

[kazman32]

How could a wizard afford to train in sneak/hide? What could he cut out of his training plan to afford him enough points to be effective at it?

[GSTamral]

Dueling is all about who moves first. Against any caster, I'd use bellow, tackle, growl, and they die. This works 100% of the time like level. Similarly, a wizard who ewaved me and cast something at me, I would die.

I more prefer the fact that I'm a better hunter with all of my equipment than a better dueler.

[Varsus]

I agree with Tamral, In a like train duel, its all about who gets the first move.

-Varsus

[Solkern]

Razzkazz was an old school wizard way old school, he didn't sacrifice much, if i remember right he had about 20 ranks in hiding, and had 20 ranks in CM also. he was insane

[Xinister]

Razzkazz never beat me.

Warriors rule.