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Solkern
03-16-2009, 05:32 AM
So I just saw the preview for this movie
I hope it's not as bad as the da Vinci Code.
That movioe was terrible

Warriorbird
03-16-2009, 05:52 AM
As long as Tom Hanks has a better haircut and there's no Audrey Tautou being directed to be less decipherable than normal.

The Ponzzz
03-16-2009, 06:13 AM
It was a decent book. Not sure how they could really screw it up in a movie.

Solkern
03-16-2009, 07:05 AM
the screwed up Da Vinci Code, So... lol

The Ponzzz
03-16-2009, 07:40 AM
The Da Vinci Code movie wasn't that bad. Curious what made it bad (outside Hank's hair).

radamanthys
03-16-2009, 08:11 AM
A&D was a much better book, and the DaVinci code wasn't terrible.

Should be good. Tom Hanks doesn't really ever fuck up.

Solkern
03-16-2009, 08:21 AM
I read DaVinci Code, and I thought the movie was terrible compared to the book, of course, that's how it usually goes..
but still they changed to much, and flipped to much around, that I hated the movie more then anything, I think it's probably the worset movie, I've seen.

The Ponzzz
03-16-2009, 08:28 AM
Heh, and hear I thought they stuck to the book as best as they could, while keeping the movie interesting. The book had a lot of information development with how they would cut from group to group showing how the plot was thickening for each section of the story while remaining in real time. The movie, IMO, stuck to it.

I wouldn't rate the Da Vinci Code as the worst movie I ever seen. I could think of about 20-30 movies I have seen just recently that were 100x worse. To name a few...

Quarantine
Cloverfield
Bangkok Dangerous
The Mummy III
Just about any movie with Jason Statham (though I love him as an actor, everything he's been in has been total shit).

ElanthianSiren
03-16-2009, 08:45 AM
As long as Tom Hanks has a better haircut and there's no Audrey Tautou being directed to be less decipherable than normal.

rofl yes! "Did zeeeeee jurch finazee GET 'er?"

Awesome, I thought I was the only one.

Izzy
03-16-2009, 08:58 AM
I read DaVinci Code, and I thought the movie was terrible compared to the book, of course, that's how it usually goes..
but still they changed to much, and flipped to much around, that I hated the movie more then anything, I think it's probably the worset movie, I've seen.

Are you really an English teacher? Holy fuck man.

Solkern
03-16-2009, 09:12 AM
Once again, I don't worry about spelling, grammer any other bullshit when writing on forums.

thefarmer
03-16-2009, 09:15 AM
Just about any movie with Jason Statham (though I love him as an actor, everything he's been in has been total shit).

My wife would have cut you, had you not added the second part. We both enjoy his movies when we see them. She stares at his body, while I can watch shit blow up, and the occasional hot girl co-star.

edit:Like that super hot chick in death race, or whatever the hell that movie was with the prison racing.

Gan
03-16-2009, 09:36 AM
As its been said countless times before in movie threads. Having the expectation of a movie exactly following the book of its origin is really stupid.

I thought the DVC was a great read and an entertaining movie. I thought A&D was a great read (other than the helicopter jump part) and equally expect the movie to be just as entertaining as the DVC. And yes, I do hope they try to make Hanks appear not so 'bookish' as in the first.

The Ponzzz
03-16-2009, 09:54 AM
My wife would have cut you, had you not added the second part. We both enjoy his movies when we see them. She stares at his body, while I can watch shit blow up, and the occasional hot girl co-star.

edit:Like that super hot chick in death race, or whatever the hell that movie was with the prison racing.

Yeah, if you just want to watch a high impact action movie with bad plots, rough storylines and really bad acting from who ever is the villain, then his movies are great. It seems all his shit are developed around a weak, cheasy love story to either save the girl or get the girl. Like Deathrace and Crank. The original Transporter is his best movie.

Cephalopod
03-16-2009, 09:56 AM
Tom Hanks does appear to have a better haircut in A&D. I never read A&D, but I read DaVinci Code, and the movie wasn't bad.

Also, "Digital Fortress" is one of the only books I have ever physically 'thrown down' in frustration, due to inadequate and retarded research on Dan Brown's part. I'm glad I read DaVinci Code beforehand, or else I never would have picked up another of his books again.

Sean
03-16-2009, 10:22 AM
Tom Hanks does appear to have a better haircut in A&D. I never read A&D, but I read DaVinci Code, and the movie wasn't bad.

Also, "Digital Fortress" is one of the only books I have ever physically 'thrown down' in frustration, due to inadequate and retarded research on Dan Brown's part. I'm glad I read DaVinci Code beforehand, or else I never would have picked up another of his books again.

I'm not a tech guy so I probably missed whatever issues you had with Digital Fortress. I do think the deception point could make an interesting movie though.

Warriorbird
03-16-2009, 11:07 AM
The Bank Job was actually a pretty decent recent Statham movie. Crank's not THAT long ago. I agree about the rest though.

The Ponzzz
03-16-2009, 11:09 AM
I read all of Dan Brown's books. Deception Point would make an AWESOME movie if done right. I think I read that one in all of 2 days because the damn thing had me curious as all hell (don't want to spoil the book).

Fallen
03-16-2009, 11:09 AM
The Bank Job was actually a pretty decent recent Statham movie. Crank's not THAT long ago. I agree about the rest though.

Do you mean The Italian Job or am I thinking of another movie?

The Ponzzz
03-16-2009, 11:10 AM
You're thinking of a different movie. That was with Marky Mark.

Warriorbird
03-16-2009, 11:11 AM
Italian Job had Statham too... but different movie.

Fallen
03-16-2009, 11:12 AM
Italian Job had Statham too... but different movie.

Which one was Handsome Rob? That was funny.

Warriorbird
03-16-2009, 11:17 AM
Italian Job. He was partially inspired by his Dad's job as an auctioneer/low end salesman in the beginning of that too.

Beguiler
03-16-2009, 11:20 AM
I read all of Dan Brown's books. Deception Point would make an AWESOME movie if done right..

Totally agree!

And on topic Angels and Demons was a good read, in some ways I thought it was better than The DaVinci Code. I'm looking forward to it..

Solkern
03-16-2009, 11:24 AM
I dunno, I heard Angels and Demons is much better if you read it after DVC
But I dunno, I thought Angels and Demons was a better book then DVC

The Ponzzz
03-16-2009, 11:33 AM
As far as the book goes, A&D can get a little yawntastic, where the main pull of the Da Vinci Code was leaving you on the edge of your seat until the last few chapters. Very RAH RAH RAH! That's why it was such a best seller. Don't get me wrong, both were great books, just A&D has to do a little too much explaining which can cause you to put the book down and make a friggin' sammich and forget to go back to it.

Sean
03-16-2009, 11:37 AM
One of the reasons I think I liked A&D more than DVC is that if you've been to rome you've most likely been to most/all of the places where events in the book happen (well except for the vatican archives) so it's pretty easy to visualize the events whereas the DVC you'd have to been to multiple counties and half of the locations are historically insignificant.

Beguiler
03-16-2009, 11:44 AM
One of the reasons I think I liked A&D more than DVC is that if you've been to rome you've most likely been to most/all of the places where events in the book happen (well except for the vatican archives) so it's pretty easy to visualize the events whereas the DVC you'd have to been to multiple counties and half of the locations are historically insignificant.

Exactly! I could SEE it, knew the atmosphere.. and I was lucky enough to spend some time at the Vatican, so while naturally I didn't see the stuff that was pretty secure, I saw enough to be able to visualize it. Though, I was lucky enough to spend some time in Paris so got to go to the Louvre, now I want to go back and snoop around more!

Truth be told, I just enjoy Dan Brown's work.

Solkern
03-16-2009, 12:02 PM
Yeah, I did some snooping when I was in the Lourve in October, I kept going back to the DVC in my head and trying to figure things out lol

Danical
03-16-2009, 01:58 PM
Yeah, if you just want to watch a high impact action movie with bad plots, rough storylines and really bad acting from who ever is the villain, then his movies are great. It seems all his shit are developed around a weak, cheasy love story to either save the girl or get the girl. Like Deathrace and Crank. The original Transporter is his best movie.

Lock Stock & Snatch.

I love Snatch.

Although, those are debatable since he isn't technically a leading man with so many other stars in it.

TheEschaton
03-16-2009, 02:09 PM
While I like Dan Brown for the work he does, what I love about him is that he makes people go to the Louvre and look at shit in Rome and make them think about the stories behind them.

And I also thought A&D was a better book, but that's mainly because A) it was more realistic, and B) dealt with something more pertinent.

-TheE-

diethx
03-16-2009, 06:03 PM
The Da Vinci Code movie wasn't that bad. Curious what made it bad (outside Hank's hair).

lol... I think it was more that Hanks and the French gal had no real chemistry. At least in my opinion. I didn't think the movie was that bad though.

I've read both and I honestly liked A&D more, although I liked both A LOT. I'm excited for the movie.


She stares at his body

I like watching shit blow up, but yeah.... :drool:

Gan
03-16-2009, 07:04 PM
And I also thought A&D was a better book, but that's mainly because A) it was more realistic...

-TheE-

Howso?

I mean seriously, the branding, the hostile takeover of the vatican, jumping out of a helicopter and using a piece of cloth as a parachute and surviving over a 100 foot drop into icy waters?

Of the books, I found DVC more realistic than A&D...

Allereli
03-16-2009, 07:15 PM
Does nobody else notice that A&D and DVC are essentially the same book?

Brown is a terrible writer, agreed on Digital Fortress.

The Ponzzz
03-16-2009, 07:19 PM
He uses the same techniques. I'll agree that DF was a bit boring.

Allereli
03-16-2009, 07:25 PM
He uses the same techniques. I'll agree that DF was a bit boring.

Been years since I read them, but don't they both start off with pictures of dead bodies and then go into ancient conspiracies?

Brown's dialog is the worst

TheEschaton
03-16-2009, 08:40 PM
More realistic as in the end culprit wasn't a massive conspiracy, but a person who was misguided and idiotic.

The helicopter bit was ridiculous, yes, but I think the whole point of that was to see how easily people are fooled into believing in nothing.

Also, it's more realistic in that the Illuminati brands (though not necessarily the Illuminati) actually existed at some point, where as the Priore du Sion is pretty much a flimsy attempt at being a conspiracy. A&D's truth claims are much stronger, imo.

From a theological perspective, obviously DVC is more intriguing and more likely to arouse interest in non-believers. To a certain extent, it is more theologically realistic than A&D, because we can see that the theological truth offered in A&D (the whole miracle part at the end) is exposed in the book as a hoax and a fraud.

-TheE-

Warriorbird
03-16-2009, 08:54 PM
Been years since I read them, but don't they both start off with pictures of dead bodies and then go into ancient conspiracies?

Brown's dialog is the worst

I used to think his dialogue was bad until I had Twilight dialogue quoted at me.

I like that Brown's stuff encourages people to appreciate the intricacies of history.

I find AD a much better book than DC, though maybe just due to my appreciation for the Illuminati.

Back
03-16-2009, 09:15 PM
Audrey Tautou is adorable.

Back
03-16-2009, 09:16 PM
While I like Dan Brown for the work he does, what I love about him is that he makes people go to the Louvre and look at shit in Rome and make them think about the stories behind them.

-TheE-

Quote of the week. And its only Monday.

Warriorbird
03-16-2009, 09:32 PM
Audrey Tautou is adorable.

She's much more adorable when you understand what she's saying or have subtitles.

Back
03-16-2009, 09:37 PM
She's much more adorable when you understand what she's saying or have subtitles.

I respectfully... agree.

diethx
05-16-2009, 12:44 AM
So I saw this tonight... and it was, eh. They did change quite a bit but hit the high points of the book I guess. I guess if I never read the book I would have liked the movie more.


I thought A&D was a great read (other than the helicopter jump part)

This is the one change in the movie that I liked, while still kinda hokey, it was far more believable.