Wizards and Skinning

[Siefer]

I know this topic has been beaten to death several times, but I can't get a straight up answer. It seems out of all the people I've asked, they're all split down the middle, 50/50, about whether skinning is worth the TP's. I gave up 1 rank of Major Elemental to become fully 1x'd in First Aid, but I still have 12 triples total. Right now I'm hunting shan which don't give up skins, but my instant reallocation ends on 2/28 and I'm trying to plan ahead.

Khajiit (at level 43), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Armor Use..........................| 10 2
Brawling...........................| 5 1
Physical Fitness...................| 102 24
Arcane Symbols.....................| 190 90
Magic Item Use.....................| 190 90
Spell Aiming.......................| 190 90
Harness Power......................| 190 90
Elemental Mana Control.............| 145 45
Elemental Lore - Fire..............| 145 45
Perception.........................| 102 24
Climbing...........................| 70 15
Swimming...........................| 70 15
First Aid..........................| 145 45



Spell Lists
Major Elemental....................| 27

Spell Lists
Minor Elemental....................| 43

Spell Lists
Wizard.............................| 30

[Kitsun]

Well skinning was changed to rely on BOTH FA and survival. You need to be fully singled in both skills in order to have the relative skill of 1x FA in GSIII. Combined with the new skin price fluxuations, you may find that the TP to benefit ratio isn't worth it. If all you want these skills for is purely to skin, it probably isn't worth it. If you care about healing down faster, tending wounds, not falling on ice patch, avoiding wind damage, then maybe it is worth the tripled rank sacrifice.

[Siefer]

No...I just want to make money.

[StrayRogue]

Since when was skinning reliant on both skills? Skinning, as far as I know, is weighted 50/50 on survival and FA. Meaning if you get 1x survival, your skinning won't improve if you 1x FA. However, the skills may be rendered moot as skinning for money has been nerfed, in essence.

[Siefer]

God dammit....nothing else to say. Just god dammit.

[Kia]

Originally posted by Kitsun
Well skinning was changed to rely on BOTH FA and survival. You need to be fully singled in both skills in order to have the relative skill of 1x FA in GSIII. Combined with the new skin price fluxuations, you may find that the TP to benefit ratio isn't worth it. If all you want these skills for is purely to skin, it probably isn't worth it. If you care about healing down faster, tending wounds, not falling on ice patch, avoiding wind damage, then maybe it is worth the tripled rank sacrifice.

To skin, you can 2x FA and it is the same as 1x FA and 1x Survival. Likewise, you can 2x Survival. You don't need both.

KIA.

KIA.

[Sirinna]

Originally posted by Kia
To skin, you can 2x FA and it is the same as 1x FA and 1x Survival. Likewise, you can 2x Survival. You don't need both.
KIA.

Hmmm.. for an Empath, if she 2xFA and 1x Survival or even 2x Survival, she WOULD get more out from skinning against the average joe with 1x FA / 1x Survival right?

[AnticorRifling]

Here:

Anticor (at level 51), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Armor Use..........................| 70 15
Combat Maneuvers...................| 90 20
Polearm Weapons....................| 152 52
Physical Fitness...................| 105 25
Arcane Symbols.....................| 152 52
Magic Item Use.....................| 152 52
Spell Aiming.......................| 202 104
Harness Power......................| 175 75
Elemental Mana Control.............| 58 12
Elemental Lore - Air...............| 114 28
Survival...........................| 152 52
Perception.........................| 152 52
Climbing...........................| 50 10
Swimming...........................| 50 10
First Aid..........................| 152 52

Spell Lists
Major Elemental....................| 20

Spell Lists
Minor Elemental....................| 64

Spell Lists
Wizard.............................| 20

1x FA and 1x Survival. I make about 5k a hunt in the blighted forest, granted it only takes me 10 kills to go from belled to fried and I only stay out until fried. I could make alot more if I just hunted for skins. I personally think it's worth it but, again, that's just opinion.

[Tophal]

I gave up some triple spell training for the FA and Survival. I'm 58 trainings in GS4, and I have trained to 50 and 50 in FA and Survival. I'm not sure who to believe, so I got both.

I like the ability to skin. It kind of helps me forget how bitter I am that I can no longer open my own boxes without killing myself one in three tries. (I realize I'm a wizard and not a rogue, but you shouldn't have got me used to it in the first place).

Anyway, I can skin what I think are like level critters the majority of the time, like 7 out of 10. I use a skinning knife, which helps a lot. I have tried without the skinning knife and I just can't cut it (no pun intended).

My casting AS went from like 360 to 354. I changed some other things around, like more climbing because I hate round time and falling. I don't really seem to miss the 6-AS for the ability to skin reasonably well. My wiz spells and min elem are at 58, I reduced my maj elem to get the skinning ability. I also went for some earth-lore, to check out the benefits - not a whole lot from what I can tell so far.

It was worth it to me to train for skinning. Can anyone explain to me the whole 'nerf' to skinning. What happened and how much am I gonna lose because of it?

Thanks. -Toph

[solescape]

Originally posted by AnticorRifling
Here:

Anticor (at level 51), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Armor Use..........................| 70 15
Combat Maneuvers...................| 90 20
Polearm Weapons....................| 152 52
Physical Fitness...................| 105 25
Arcane Symbols.....................| 152 52
Magic Item Use.....................| 152 52
Spell Aiming.......................| 202 104
Harness Power......................| 175 75
Elemental Mana Control.............| 58 12
Elemental Lore - Air...............| 114 28
Survival...........................| 152 52
Perception.........................| 152 52
Climbing...........................| 50 10
Swimming...........................| 50 10
First Aid..........................| 152 52

Spell Lists
Major Elemental....................| 20

Spell Lists
Minor Elemental....................| 64

Spell Lists
Wizard.............................| 20

1x FA and 1x Survival. I make about 5k a hunt in the blighted forest, granted it only takes me 10 kills to go from belled to fried and I only stay out until fried. I could make alot more if I just hunted for skins. I personally think it's worth it but, again, that's just opinion.


but you dont have meteor swurm and your mana leech sucks

[solescape]

jk by the way

[The Cat In The Hat]

Originally posted by StrayRogue
Since when was skinning reliant on both skills? Skinning, as far as I know, is weighted 50/50 on survival and FA. Meaning if you get 1x survival, your skinning won't improve if you 1x FA. However, the skills may be rendered moot as skinning for money has been nerfed, in essence.

That's not true... I can make 160K an hour on average skinning. Just gotta skin the right thing. Im an empath 3x first aid and .5 survival and trading.

[AnticorRifling]

Skinning is a combination of both, 2x FA = 1x FA + 1x survival.

[Askip]

Math from a weapon swinger, I'm impressed. :D

[Mistomeer]

Trading doesn't help with skins, or at least it didn't before skinning got nerfed. 160K/hour is good money, but before the changes everyone was around 300K/hour at the Lake. Stupid Calael.

[AnticorRifling]

1 I don't need meteor swarm

2 Who the hell cares if I can mana leech I'm a weapon user

3 Askip if you have time to comment you have time to enchant something for me.

4 Ohh yeah Ftard is banned no need to call attention to the fact that he can't spell swarm.

5 Ftard != Askip

[Askip]

<< Askip if you have time to comment you have time to enchant something for me. >>

All you had to do was ask, drop me a note. :D

Edited to remove a comment about an older wizard who cannot enchant.

[Edited on 8-18-2004 by Askip]