Removing Presidential term limits?

[TheRunt]

Just :wtf:

http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-hj5/show

Not that I think that this has any chance to pass but still :wtf:

[Some Rogue]

It's been proposed several times before and it never goes anywhere.

[Fallen]

I doubt term limits will ever be removed, just as I doubt they will ever allow non-native citizens to become president. It's more tradition than anything else.

[Keller]

Obama: Napoleon Part Deux.

[Clove]

Obama: Napoleon Part Deux.May as well remove his term limits he's already FDR redux.

[TheRunt]

I doubt term limits will ever be removed, just as I doubt they will ever allow non-native citizens to become president. It's more tradition than anything else.

Some people believe that they all ready have. :love:

[Fallen]

Some people believe that they all ready have. :love:

What do you mean? Has Obama's native status ever been held suspect? I mean, in terms of how it is required to be when running for office.

[Mighty Nikkisaurus]

What do you mean? Has Obama's native status ever been held suspect? I mean, in terms of how it is required to be when running for office.

Yeah, a bunch of twatwaffles don't believe that his HI birth certificate is real, and think that in fact, Obama is a native Kenyan or some crazy shit like that.

[radamanthys]

Fuckers. They should be arguing for less power to themselves, not more.

I mean, what's the problem with term limits in congress?

[crb]

If anything we need more term limits. It seems to me the longer a politician is in washington, the more corrupt he gets (Murtha, etc).

[radamanthys]

Even in NYS... look at what Sheldon Silver and Joe Bruno did to the place (specifically upstate).

[Gan]

This always crops up in the honeymoon period of each new presidency.

Nothing new here.

[TheRunt]

If anything we need more term limits. It seems to me the longer a politician is in washington, the more corrupt he gets (Murtha, etc).

Agreed I would like to see all politicians be term limited from mayor on up, Hell I'd like to see all bureaucrats limited from dog catcher on up even.

[Daniel]

Agreed I would like to see all politicians be term limited from mayor on up, Hell I'd like to see all bureaucrats limited from dog catcher on up even.

Uh. So how do you propose keeping the ranks of the bureaucracy filled if people can only work for so long? You really think those mid to senior level business executives are going to be breaking down the door to make 120k?

You think they were pissed about having their bonuses cut...

[ElanthianSiren]

This always crops up in the honeymoon period of each new presidency.

Nothing new here.

This. I feel as though we've had this discussion before... once...twice...maybe thrice. I'm for some term limits, but I'm more for more punative action for white collar crimes and those officials going on suspension through their trial/evaluation. You bet your ass you'd see washington move at light speed when it's one of their own.

[Parkbandit]

Uh. So how do you propose keeping the ranks of the bureaucracy filled if people can only work for so long? You really think those mid to senior level business executives are going to be breaking down the door to make 120k?

You think they were pissed about having their bonuses cut...


There will always be plenty of people running for office.


Good excerpt from an article on term limits:

At the end of the 18th century, many of the framers of the fledgling United States—the first major modern democracy—also put stock in the idea. Benjamin Franklin, John Adams and Thomas Jefferson were among those who considered term limits an important way to check individual power. In a 1787 letter to James Madison, Jefferson counted "the perpetual eligibility" of elected officials, and especially a chief executive, as one of two key elements of the proposed Constitution that he didn't like (the other being the absence of a Bill of Rights). But while the Articles of Confederation limited delegates to three-year terms, similar provisions were omitted from the Constitution. Still, George Washington stepped aside after his second term, setting an example that—though it may have stemmed as much from fatigue as ideology—lasted for nearly 150 years.

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1846988,00.html

There is no institute more corrupt than the US Congress... and the reason it is so corrupt is that we have many many members who have made public service into a career instead of a sense of calling.

[thefarmer]

But we loved Strom!

[Parkbandit]

But we loved Strom!

What's not to love! I mean, he holds the record for the longest filibuster in US History of something like 24 hours. That's quite an admirable feat! Standing up to what you believe so strongly in for TWENTY FOUR hours to voice your opposition!

Oh wait.. it was to voice his opposition on civil rights.

[Gan]

This. I feel as though we've had this discussion before... once...twice...maybe thrice. I'm for some term limits, but I'm more for more punative action for white collar crimes and those officials going on suspension through their trial/evaluation. You bet your ass you'd see washington move at light speed when it's one of their own.

/Agreed

To add: I'd like to see term limits on Congress as well. ;)

[Daniel]

There will always be plenty of people running for office.


Good excerpt from an article on term limits:

At the end of the 18th century, many of the framers of the fledgling United States—the first major modern democracy—also put stock in the idea. Benjamin Franklin, John Adams and Thomas Jefferson were among those who considered term limits an important way to check individual power. In a 1787 letter to James Madison, Jefferson counted "the perpetual eligibility" of elected officials, and especially a chief executive, as one of two key elements of the proposed Constitution that he didn't like (the other being the absence of a Bill of Rights). But while the Articles of Confederation limited delegates to three-year terms, similar provisions were omitted from the Constitution. Still, George Washington stepped aside after his second term, setting an example that—though it may have stemmed as much from fatigue as ideology—lasted for nearly 150 years.

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1846988,00.html

There is no institute more corrupt than the US Congress... and the reason it is so corrupt is that we have many many members who have made public service into a career instead of a sense of calling.

I was referring to bureaucrats, not elected officials. I agree with term limits for congress.

[Clove]

There will always be plenty of people running for office.


I was referring to bureaucrats, not elected officials. I agree with term limits for congress.Asked and answered.

[Drunken Durfin]

I'm for a single six-year term for presidents. it seems to me that too much of the 2nd half of the first term is spent campaigning when they should be working.

[Daniel]

Asked and answered.

"Office" != Bureaucrats

[Clove]

"Office" != BureaucratsHow clever. Then one wonders why you would care about their term limitations.


bu·reau·crat (byŏŏr'ə-krāt')
n.
An official of a bureaucracy.
An official who is rigidly devoted to the details of administrative procedure.
bu'reau·crat'ic adj., bu'reau·crat'i·cal·ly adv.


Of·fi·cial (ə-fĭsh'əl)
n.

1. Of or pertaining to an office or public trust; as, official duties, or routine.

That, in the official marks invested, you Anon do meet the senate. --Shak.

2. Derived from the proper office or officer, or from the proper authority; made or communicated by virtue of authority; as, an official statement or report.

3. (Pharm.) Approved by authority; sanctioned by the pharmacop[oe]ia; appointed to be used in medicine; as, an official drug or preparation. Cf. Officinal.

4. Discharging an office or function. [Obs.]

[Daniel]

How clever. Then one wonders why you would care about their term limitations.

Because the person I quoted said that they should have them? Get your head out of your ass.

[Parkbandit]

Yea.. I disagree with the original person Daniel quoted that states that ALL government jobs should have term limits. He even used the local dog catcher.. which would be stupid.

[TheRunt]

Yea.. I disagree with the original person Daniel quoted that states that ALL government jobs should have term limits. He even used the local dog catcher.. which would be stupid.

You don't have the same dog catcher my town has. If you did you might agree with me. :rofl:

[Back]

Just :wtf:

http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-hj5/show

Not that I think that this has any chance to pass but still :wtf:

It will never pass. Unless we get pro-lobbyist election fixing people like Bush, Rove and Cheney in office again.

[Parkbandit]

You don't have the same dog catcher my town has. If you did you might agree with me. :rofl:

It's not an elected position... he/she was hired. If he/she doesn't perform the job properly, then he/she should simply be fired.

[Gan]

It will never pass. Unless we get pro-lobbyist election fixing people like Bush, Rove and Cheney in office again.

You mean like J.J. Res. 24?

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=hj109-24

[Parkbandit]

It will never pass. Unless we get pro-lobbyist election fixing people like Bush, Rove and Cheney in office again.

:rofl:

BUSH STOLE THE ELECTION!!!!!

You never, ever cease to amaze me (and not in a good way).