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kookiegod
03-06-2009, 09:06 PM
This just amused me, they make a pricing error on a Vizio 32 inch LCD and they actually expect me to take it laying down, and this last rep (its in reverse order) wanted to to place an order.

Others got screwed too, a lot.

Just annoying, I'm sure it WAS an error, but in sales, if i ever quoted it wrong, i'd back it up, and take the heat from the boss and gain a long term customer and defacto sales rep pushing me for sticking to what I promised.

I just was amused by their arrogance.

~Paul

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I don't need to do anything dear.

http://www.buydakota.com/product_info.php?products_id=718

I can get it for $399.00 here.

$447.00 @ walmart.com

$529.00 @ sears.com

You are overpriced now.

As I said in my initial letter, I didn't expect you to do anything, and you have proven me right, and how ARROGANT to say, I request you to contact Sales Department at their toll free number 1-888-782-3355 and place a new order.

Why exactly should I? Your company screwed me over with their bait and switch technique, and offered me nothing but a TV far over list price.

Needless to say, I'm going to distribute this email thread far and wide to my company,blogs, my workgroups, facebook, and more because of how badly i feel your company, and YOUR arrogance personally has offended me.

I'd bid you good day, but that would be an empty sentiment. I hope in this economy its still easy to replace a customer, than to appease one that is now feeling rather PISSED ON and PISSED OFF.

Paul

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On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 4:04 PM, US_CAG_Customer_Care <US_CAG_Customer_Care@dell.com> wrote:

Dear Mr. Jenney:

Thank you for your response.

The price for the LCD is not $99.

The correct price for the LCD $599.00.

You need to order the LCD for the correct price.

If you need any further assistance, please reply to this email I shall be more than happy to assist you.

Thank you for choosing Dell.

Respectfully,

Leela_Gajam
Email Case Number 26522634
Customer Care Specialist
ABO Customer eCare
Dell Inc.

We Care for Customers: http://www.Dellcustomercare.com

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Hmmm, this is a little unclear... I request you to contact Sales Department at their toll free number 1-888-782-3355 and place a new order.

Is that at the advertised price or the list price?

If the former, I will, at the latter, no thanks.

In any case, though I thank you for providing a thoughtful apology.

Cordially,

Paul


On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 6:27 AM, US_CAG_Customer_Care <US_CAG_Customer_Care@dell.com> wrote:

Dear Mr. Jenney:

Thank you for contacting Dell.

I understand your concern regarding the order cancellation. I will be glad to assist you further.

Please accept my sincere apology for the difficulties you have encountered as the order was canceled with out any information. I assure you that your situation is not indicative of the quality of service Dell strives to provide every customer.

This is not the service standard to which we hold ourselves accountable at Dell.

Mr. Jenney, I cannot apologize enough for the lacking experience you have had with our service support.

We realize that only our future interactions can restore your confidence in us completely, but I want to assure you that your experience is unusual. Dell's intention is to provide every customer with an experience that is both satisfactory and enjoyable.

I request you to contact Sales Department at their toll free number 1-888-782-3355 and place a new order.

I am so sorry you did not have the opportunity in this experience to receive the full potential of Dell's industry leading quality support services.

Thank you for taking time from your busy schedule to let us know how we can do better for you and all of our customers.

Thank you for choosing Dell.

Respectfully,

Leela_Gajam
Email Case Number 26522634
Customer Care Specialist
ABO Customer eCare
Dell Inc.

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No offense, that answer reeks of 'Oh well, tough luck, we really don't need you as a customer."

Well, lots of companies find out the hard way that losing a customer is a lot easier than gaining a new customer, esp. when they feel bait and switched.

1) Order item. No indication anywhere on the order form it was subject to cancellation.
2) Confirmation of order
3) Rescheduled shipping date

By now, I felt the order has been accepted, processed, and just waiting to ship.

Then a boiler plate cancelllation, no apologies, nothing to at all make the customer feel anything but ripped off. Look, I been a long time customer, I got 2 XPSs, and a Inspirion laptop in my office, bought numerous Dell's for my employees over the years, and this is the first time I am upset enough with Dell to just remove you as a vendor, and post all this on all my blogs I visit, and industry publications, esp. since it wasn't even a consumer deal, it was published in your Small Business section.

And all I can get back is a one line response which simply sounded insincere. I really hope you will take this up the chain and do something before my faith is
completely gone in your company.

Cordially,

Paul

On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 7:39 AM, US_CAG_Customer_Care <US_CAG_Customer_Care@dell.com> wrote:

Dear Paul,

Thank you for contacting Dell Online Customer Care.

I apologize for the inconvenience caused. Your feedback has been taken and will continue to be seriously considered in our ongoing endeavors to improve services.

Sincerely,

Rohit Sachdeva
Rep ID 107041
Dell Online Customer Care
http://support.dell.com

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Definitely not impressed with the order cancellation, price error or not, would have built up a lot of customer goodwill by fulfilling them, even at a loss, I would have been impressed with your company's integrity.

Now, I'll shop at Best Buy, or somewhere who stands behind their word.

<shrug>

Good luck in your furture endevours.

~Paul

SHAFT
03-06-2009, 09:20 PM
yeah dell sucks. i had them ship me a server a few backs and it had a lot of problems. sent it back and went with digital storm. i'm a dell hater

Stretch
03-06-2009, 09:29 PM
You've never fat-fingered something before?

I think Dell made the right call here. I also wouldn't want a customer who might have a high level of disposable income but is quicksilver enough to switch brand loyalties at the drop of the hat over something that unreasonable.

Ashlander
03-06-2009, 09:30 PM
So was the lcd listed on the site or something for $99 instead of $599 and then they changed it after you placed the order? If that's the case isn't it fraud on their part?

Fallen
03-06-2009, 09:32 PM
I've NEVER had a problem with price matching at Best Buy. Hell, half the time they don't even check to see if the price you quote to them is true, they just knock it off the price. If you ask them to price check FOR you, they will personally log onto their computers and use whatever method of searching you like.

Best Buy rules.

Stretch
03-06-2009, 09:35 PM
So was the lcd listed on the site or something for $99 instead of $599 and then they changed it after you placed the order? If that's the case isn't it fraud on their part?

Most online merchants have disclaimers that cover their ass and let them cancel orders in case of mis-pricing.

Ashlander
03-06-2009, 09:50 PM
Most online merchants have disclaimers that cover their ass and let them cancel orders in case of mis-pricing.

Ah wasn't aware of that.

The Ponzzz
03-06-2009, 10:02 PM
I was another who ordered the TV as well. It was listed in the small business section of the site and the TV was listed for 599 with an instant savings of 500, bringing the pice to 99.

After I ordered it and pasted the link to as many people as I knew that would buy one, I gave them a call to make sure it was legit, and the one guy on the phone said that they have "MANY" close out specials and that it most likely was that. I checked my email, and I had a confirmation number and everything. The next day, I get an email that just says my order has been delayed. And then I think 4 days after that, they cancelled the order.

Like Paul, I'm pissed off about it. I've got a case number and spoke with 3 different supervisors already. A guy named "Dave" is who I'm waiting to hear back from, as they are trying to work something out, according to the last guy I spoke with.

Sure $99 is cheap, and they do have the right to cancel the order according to their TOS on the site, but it's still a load of crock.

kookiegod
03-06-2009, 10:23 PM
You've never fat-fingered something before?

I think Dell made the right call here. I also wouldn't want a customer who might have a high level of disposable income but is quicksilver enough to switch brand loyalties at the drop of the hat over something that unreasonable.

Generally, I'd agree with you, but as a long term buyer of their products, I don't think its a case of jumping the gun. Its just they not offered to do ANYTHING and some of the replies are condecending and presumptious.

And heck, who lets them post things to the web without some sort of QC? GemStone does it for all their events and calender stuff, and Dell can't?

And as I said, I own a ton of Dell products, I bought for my home, my home office, my company, and this is the first time I been really disappointed and offered to let them fix it, but so far, zero.

~Paul

ViridianAsp
03-06-2009, 11:03 PM
Generally, I'd agree with you, but as a long term buyer of their products, I don't think its a case of jumping the gun. Its just they not offered to do ANYTHING and some of the replies are condecending and presumptious.

And heck, who lets them post things to the web without some sort of QC? GemStone does it for all their events and calender stuff, and Dell can't?

And as I said, I own a ton of Dell products, I bought for my home, my home office, my company, and this is the first time I been really disappointed and offered to let them fix it, but so far, zero.

~Paul


I kind of agree here, considering they messed up the price of the merchandise you ordered and they canceled, they should have at least given you something as a courtesy.

While they can't sell it to you for $99.00 They could have offered to reduce it by a percentage from the original $599.00 or offered you a discount on another product should you decide that you don't want what you ordered due to the mix up.

A responsible business like Dell should know how to handle this sort of situation.

Fallen
03-06-2009, 11:32 PM
And heck, who lets them post things to the web without some sort of QC? GemStone does it for all their events and calender stuff, and Dell can't?


~Paul

They certainly don't QC the mechanics aspects of the crap they have posted. A good portion of it is terribly out of date, and some of it flat out wrong to begin with.

diethx
03-06-2009, 11:37 PM
And heck, who lets them post things to the web without some sort of QC? GemStone does it for all their events and calender stuff, and Dell can't?

It's because Dell can't afford to sit around on their thumbs promising new product for 6 years but VERY slowly delivering. People would shop elsewhere.

Kyra231
03-06-2009, 11:44 PM
It's because Dell can't afford to sit around on their thumbs promising new product for 6 years but VERY slowly delivering. People would shop elsewhere.

:rofl: I wish I could pos rep you for this.

kookiegod
03-06-2009, 11:55 PM
Its a Dell bashing thread folks, sheesh.

~Paul

Skeeter
03-07-2009, 12:04 AM
In all fairness, you're the one who made the GS comparison. I have nothing to add about dell. though I think they bought Alienware and this makes me sad.

diethx
03-07-2009, 02:09 AM
In all fairness, you're the one who made the GS comparison.

:yeahthat:

Anyway, yes they did, and now Alienware laptops cost like 4k less than they used to, lol.

The Ponzzz
03-07-2009, 02:51 AM
:yeahthat:

Anyway, yes they did, and now Alienware laptops cost like 4k less than they used to, lol.

And they still suck and cost over 5 grand.

diethx
03-07-2009, 02:57 AM
Um no, J got an Alienware laptop for like 1.8k. And it's a gaming laptop. Too bad the thing weighs like a million pounds.

The Ponzzz
03-07-2009, 03:01 AM
YOU DID NOT SEE THE SARCASM!! I WILL USE ITALICS FOR NOW ON!

diethx
03-07-2009, 03:01 AM
Saying they cost over 5 grand was sarcasm? YOU FAIL AT SARCASM SIR, FAIL FAIL FAIL.

Rimalon
03-07-2009, 03:06 AM
I had a hell of a time with Dell this summer.

They sent me a refurbished XPS with a busted graphics card, then when I sent it back, they sent me a replacement that was about twice as SLOW as the computer I paid for.

So it takes me at least 3 days to get in touch with anyone THAT IS NOT AN INDIAN, and we exchange computers again. It's the same as the one I paid for, with double the hard drive space. And it had a bad power supply.

The INDIANS thought that my "new" problem was the same as the "old" problem, and their records showed it had already been resolved. Took a while, etc, etc, to talk to an American, and then I send it back to them for repair, which they do, and it's been working ever since.

...But I will never, ever buy from Dell again.

diethx
03-07-2009, 03:10 AM
That's nutty. We've bought a few Dells and the worst that ever happened was the first one came with a DOA monitor... and it was easy to replace.

Your issues sound like what I experienced with Newegg the last time I tried to buy from them. Except for the Indians.

The Ponzzz
03-07-2009, 03:18 AM
Saying they cost over 5 grand was sarcasm? YOU FAIL AT SARCASM SIR, FAIL FAIL FAIL.

It was more a pop shot at what they use to cost back in the day. My buddy spent over 8k on his back in '99. They use to be so god awful expensive and offered almost nothing more outside the cool body kits.

diethx
03-07-2009, 03:36 AM
Oh ok. Also, that makes your buddy a nutbag. :(

Skeeter
03-07-2009, 08:12 AM
My PC is alienware. I got it 4 years ago and have added nothing but memory and it's still holding up to today's games. Granted I could use a new video card.

I paid less than 2k and think it was money well spent.

On a side note, if I tried to build my own computer it would look something akin to a monkey fucking a football.

LMingrone
03-07-2009, 08:26 AM
I have two shitty Dells. Don't play PC games, so I don't really need it for anything more than browsing the net, email and streaming music and video to my TV. Never really had a problem with them. They've sent me new monitors and hard drives without even having to send the broken ones back. I guess everyone's experience will be different.

Same thing with Comcast. As much as I hate their policies and monopolies, their customer service has been great.

You can't really expect good CS from any company. I guess I just got lucky.

Celephais
03-07-2009, 09:40 AM
I would easily expect Dell to be willing to lose you as a customer than take a $500 bath on this. Dell's margins are extremely small (well at least on computers, they kill people on things like printers, ram, tvs, etc). I highly doubt you are a long time customer of the overpriced section.

Amaron
03-07-2009, 09:45 AM
I refuse to talk to indians when I need to call DELL.

I keep repeating over and over:

"please transfer me to someone who speaks english as a first language."

and refuse to anawer any other questions until they do.

It works.

My husband and I both have a dell desktop, and the only issues we ever had was his internal power died after warenty ran out, a local guy fixed it on 30 minutes.

I have a CC with them and get pretty good e-mail deals.

we got our xbox 360 through them, paid 299 for the upper level one and it had extra games, not just kung fu panda and lego indiana jones. I think we saved like 150 and shipping was free.

I bought a lap 2001 that I am just ditching for a new one this year because it is totally obsolete, never had an issue.

So, yes I have had great experiences but I agree they should have done something more than just cancel orders to folks like Paul.

TheRoseLady
03-07-2009, 10:32 AM
Here's the problem Paul:

Leela_Gajam
Email Case Number 26522634
Customer Care Specialist
ABO Customer eCare
Dell Inc.

Rohit Sachdeva
Rep ID 107041
Dell Online Customer Care
http://support.dell.com

Dell apparently outsources their web support. Your best bet is to demand a stateside representative or manager. No doubt they follow a script/templates and have no authority nor training required to appease a long term customer.

I've personally accepted that companies have outsourced. If I get an acceptable response or my issue is resolved, I don't care where they are located. (Travelocity - I always get courteous, articulate representatives who I am assuming are in India.) If I'm calling AT&T internet support (I go to India/Manila and then the battle begins, after I basically tell them to transfer me to Tier II - I end up back stateside and my problem gets resolved.) AT&T mobile tech support appear to be stateside, and I always get good results with them, never fails that they comment on how long we've been their customer and show appreciation, that coming from tech support - speaks to me.

Get someone stateside Paul, if you don't get any compensation - at least you'll not have a bitter taste in your mouth. (Hopefully... ;) )

Parkbandit
03-07-2009, 10:47 AM
If $99 for a Vizio 32 inch LCD seemed too good to be true.. it probably was.

Could it possibly be that it was a typo and not some sinister plot to trick you? If it was a simple typo, how are you due anything because of a mistake that happens all the time?

The Ponzzz
03-07-2009, 01:08 PM
If $99 for a Vizio 32 inch LCD seemed too good to be true.. it probably was.

Could it possibly be that it was a typo and not some sinister plot to trick you? If it was a simple typo, how are you due anything because of a mistake that happens all the time?

Don't think anyone is saying it was a plot to trick us. We're just saying they should honor it. It was on dell.com's homepage as $99, then in the small business section, showing the savings of $500 as an instant rebate. They also gave free shipping for it.

When called, the customer service rep called it a closed out sale (I called because it seemed to be just as you said, too good to be true). It just seems they clearly weren't all on the same page. They then tried covering their tracks by sending...

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/439/dellk.jpg

...this email. Calling again, they tell me that they are "in production" and need to build the TV. And then about 4 days later, they drop the last email cancelling it. At the end of the day, I didn't get fucked over, I just missed out on what I assumed was a sale due to what they led me to believe.

kookiegod
03-07-2009, 01:28 PM
I would easily expect Dell to be willing to lose you as a customer than take a $500 bath on this. Dell's margins are extremely small (well at least on computers, they kill people on things like printers, ram, tvs, etc). I highly doubt you are a long time customer of the overpriced section.

You'd be surprised what I spent with them in the last 10 years, mostly work related, but my entire home computer room is about 90% from Dell. Only things not is my X360, and 32 inch flat screen from Costco, but i got at least 10,000 in computers, printers, fax, routers, laptop, upgrades, etc.

And yes, you are probably right, but heh, its my vent thread.

~Paul

That Jay
03-07-2009, 01:36 PM
Mario, your Doctor Seuss icon, needs to be, "What the Fuck is this Shit?" written by Gordon Ramsay.

The Ponzzz
03-07-2009, 01:50 PM
Mario, your Doctor Seuss icon, needs to be, "What the Fuck is this Shit?" written by Gordon Ramsay.

Hahaha. I actually put the Dr. Suess avatar up because it was his birthday the other day. I don't think anyone noticed that being the reason.