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walkinthrurain
03-01-2009, 12:09 PM
I am thinking about fixskilling my bard to increase AS rather than being a jack of all trades. Early on, I trained my MnE list a lot more to reach Ewave for help mastering Sunfist but I find I hunt camps a lot less often now. Thinking about migrating more ranks to Bard circle for Sonic Weapon bonus. Should I be looking to put ranks in Mental Mana share or HP in order to hunt with more spells? (I usually keep 1003, 1007, 1010 and 1019 up.) Apparently Combat Maneuvers factors into AS so I'm thinking about dropping to maybe .5x and migrating those TPs to CM. Does Perception help AS as well?

Stats and Skills:

Race: Half-Elf Profession: Bard (shown as: Battlechanter)
Gender: Male Age: 0 Expr: 901183 Level: 28
Normal (Bonus) ... Enhanced (Bonus)
Strength (STR): 99 (24) ... 99 (24)
Constitution (CON): 63 (6) ... 63 (6)
Dexterity (DEX): 83 (21) ... 83 (21)
Agility (AGI): 89 (29) ... 89 (29)
Discipline (DIS): 66 (3) ... 66 (3)
Aura (AUR): 99 (24) ... 99 (24)
Logic (LOG): 47 (-1) ... 47 (-1)
Intuition (INT): 44 (-3) ... 44 (-3)
Wisdom (WIS): 69 (9) ... 69 (9)
Influence (INF): 100 (30) ... 100 (30)
Mana: 95 Silver: 1958

(at level 28), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Armor Use..........................| 122 31
Combat Maneuvers...................| 117 29
Polearm Weapons....................| 160 60
Multi Opponent Combat..............| 25 5
Physical Fitness...................| 117 29
Dodging............................| 114 28
Arcane Symbols.....................| 25 5
Magic Item Use.....................| 30 6
Harness Power......................| 114 28
Elemental Lore - Air...............| 45 9
Mental Lore - Manipulation.........| 74 16
Survival...........................| 10 2
Perception.........................| 108 26
Climbing...........................| 58 12
Swimming...........................| 15 3
First Aid..........................| 62 13

Spell Lists
Minor Elemental....................| 10

Spell Lists
Bard...............................| 20
Training Points: 26 Phy 4 Mnt

I currently am working on mastering Charge. Anything recommendations I should put Cman points into besides?

DaCapn
03-02-2009, 02:29 AM
Granted I'm not seasoned as far as bards are concerned but...

- The only thing you'd consider perception for is picking locks and pickpocketing prevention. I personally don't train in it ever except for locksmithing. I'd drop it.
- I took survival to 1x as a rogue at level 50 and it was utterly worthless. 10 ranks will get you an equal amount of nothing as those 2 ranks so you might as well go with 0.
- If you're in GoS, ditch first aid. See sigil of mending. If you're doing it for skinning, eh... you can get some mileage out of gem purification anyway.
- I don't use MIU or AS but I don't have an argument against them. I don't train in them with my bard (which is again, low level).
- I'd go 1x air lores for sure. And I'd go 1x mental lores. You want 15 ranks of manipulation by level 30 for sure, but splashing some telepathy lores is really good too (bonuses to Kai's triumph, and renewal duration).
- Most people go up to 24 ranks of EMC and stop there. Afterwards you get negligible benefits.
- Spell-wise, I think a lot of swingers don't train in the MnE circle at all until later as a splash-in.

Danical
03-02-2009, 02:45 AM
If you plan on using melee and AS is your big concern, I'd get 1007 and 425. Double up on spells to get at least 1010 or 1012.

Remove: Swimming, Climbing, Survival, Perception, Manipulation, Arcane Symbols, and MIU.

Add: 1x Air Lore for hot 1012 action. Use extra TPs for spells/CMans as you see fit.

Training plans can be pretty bare bones for a really long time without suffering any detrimental effects.