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Originate
02-24-2009, 02:35 PM
If you are saturated and turn in a bounty, I understand you don't get any more added to your experience pool than what is your max,but do you still get half as instantly absorbed exp?

droit
02-24-2009, 02:36 PM
I don't think you get any experience at all.

BriarFox
02-24-2009, 02:37 PM
If you are saturated and turn in a bounty, I understand you don't get any more added to your experience pool than what is your max,but do you still get half as instantly absorbed exp?

No. You get no experience if you turn in a task while saturated. There's now a message warning you of that fact if you try, though you can ignore it if you like.

Asha
02-24-2009, 02:41 PM
Wait till belled (always hated that saying) and turn it in. Sit down on a node with your shield slung and in offensive with your head slightly leaning to the left.
Max exp abs.

Originate
02-24-2009, 02:41 PM
thank you Briarfox

BriarFox
02-24-2009, 02:42 PM
Nah, actually, turn it in while numb - you'll get instant exp absorption for most of the bounty. Highest exp/time ratio that way.

StrayRogue
02-24-2009, 02:45 PM
Be in a group as well.

Fallen
02-24-2009, 02:46 PM
Nah, actually, turn it in while numb - you'll get instant exp absorption for most of the bounty. Highest exp/time ratio that way.

I just turn them in while fried. It is best to turn them in so you spend the most time near fried, unless you can complete bounties in 5 minutes or so to try to spend more time on a super node instead of out in the field hunting. But that shit gets old.

Hunt, Saturate, hit fried and hunt again, saturate, repeat.

The Ponzzz
02-24-2009, 02:49 PM
The best bang for your XXX is to turn them in muddled or clear. If you're not on XXX, turn them in while fried.

droit
02-24-2009, 02:56 PM
The best bang for your XXX is to turn them in muddled or clear. If you're not on XXX, turn them in while fried.

That's if you want to gain the most experience from a single task. If you're confident you can complete another task quickly, turn it in at fried to get the instant exp and higher absorption rate. It's faster, though you lose some exp per task.

The Ponzzz
02-24-2009, 03:12 PM
You're also losing exp hunting saturated or fried. If you can complete the next task in under 2 pulses, then sure. Outside that, it is always better to triple your exp than instantly learn the single amount.

It really depends on what you like to do. I know I do it from time to time where I will turn in fried in hopes for a gem/herb task.

BriarFox
02-24-2009, 03:16 PM
Some people were having problems turning in tasks while fried (Virilneus, for instance), getting no experience and being treated like they were saturated. Rather than worry about that, I just advocated for "numb." Personally, though, I've never had that problem.

Stanley Burrell
02-24-2009, 03:17 PM
Just sit in a supernode typing EXP every nanosecond until saturated goes to regular red, use a script to run towards the taskmaster, get your mind back to saturated, and run a script to return really quickly back to a supernode. Make sure you have a Premium account so you get the type ahead lines and can type "L" to speed up your script.



How ridiculously hellbent can you be on four or five experience points here and there anyway?

Methais
02-24-2009, 03:21 PM
Just sit in a supernode typing EXP every nanosecond until saturated goes to regular red, use a script to run towards the taskmaster, get your mind back to saturated, and run a script to return really quickly back to a supernode. Make sure you have a Premium account so you get the type ahead lines and can type "L" to speed up your script.

Don't forget to hold a smooth stone for extra exp bonus.

EDIT: Just to be clear...I usually turn in my bounties just after frying. Am I actually missing out on exp by doing this? If so, how much?

BriarFox
02-24-2009, 03:25 PM
Don't forget to hold a smooth stone for extra exp bonus.

EDIT: Just to be clear...I usually turn in my bounties just after frying. Am I actually missing out on exp by doing this? If so, how much?

Like Droit and I were both commenting, in different ways, a few posts back, the major factor is the exp/time ratio. If you can get another bounty quickly and turn it in, you'll have a higher exp/time ratio than you would if you waited until you were clear and turned it in (on XXX, anyway - off triple XXX, always turn it in fried). If it takes you awhile to go out and get a new bounty, then sit and wait until you're clear and turn it in, then wait until you're down to clear or so again and go hunt/do a bounty.

Methais
02-24-2009, 03:28 PM
I usually fry/saturate and then go afk for a while, usually belled. What's the most effective mind state to turn in a bounty for that on XXX?

Stanley Burrell
02-24-2009, 03:28 PM
EDIT: Just to be clear...I usually turn in my bounties just after frying. Am I actually missing out on exp by doing this? If so, how much?

A lot. Because the cheese you used to make rats pop out of the Catacombs was supposed to have come from the Goatse man's rectum and not the general store, n00b.

The Ponzzz
02-24-2009, 03:31 PM
I have repeatedly said that the whole "turning in a task fried not working" is due to enhancives that increase the bucket you can hold. I have tested this with a DIS enhancive to prove my point, which worked. Whether it has been fixed or not, I have no clue.

Stanley Burrell
02-24-2009, 03:34 PM
I have repeatedly said that the whole "turning in a task fried not working" is due to enhancives that increase the bucket you can hold. I have tested this with a DIS enhancive to prove my point, which worked. Whether it has been fixed or not, I have no clue.

How would increasing your manly bucket girth with a DIS enhancer be a bug though? I'm sure it gets shaved if you remove it while you're still supersaturated without an instant EXP conversion. Er?

BriarFox
02-24-2009, 03:35 PM
I usually fry/saturate and then go afk for a while, usually belled. What's the most effective mind state to turn in a bounty for that on XXX?

... clear. For the third time.

droit
02-24-2009, 03:37 PM
I usually fry/saturate and then go afk for a while, usually belled. What's the most effective mind state to turn in a bounty for that on XXX?

If you're hanging out until you're belled, you should wait to turn tasks in until you're at clear or muddled. XXX doesn't add its multiplier to instant exp, so if you turn a task in at fried, the you're losing whatever your instant exp is times 1 or 2.

Kitsun
02-24-2009, 03:41 PM
I usually fry/saturate and then go afk for a while, usually belled. What's the most effective mind state to turn in a bounty for that on XXX?

The most effective use of XXX is to keep yourself fried/saturated. Each pulse you take in at closer to clear/bell gives you the least amount of exp.

That being said, I wouldn't change how I hunt comfortably to try and maximize XXX. Burning yourself out trying to keep in a constant state of hunt/bounty is silly.

If you hunt (1)a lot and (2) quickly and (3) are able to do most bounty tasks every 15 minutes, turning bounty tasks in while fried will kinda push you along faster than normal. When I turn in gem tasks while fried, I get a shot of like 250-300 exp instantly; which is like 10 pulses I don't have to sit/wait to absorb.

The Ponzzz
02-24-2009, 03:42 PM
How would increasing your manly bucket girth with a DIS enhancer be a bug though? I'm sure it gets shaved if you remove it while you're still supersaturated without an instant EXP conversion. Er?

I just don't think an enhancive should hinder how the system handles exp.

Methais
02-24-2009, 03:47 PM
Meh, I'll probably just keep turning them in at fried anyway, to maximize my afk time because GS is best when you're afk playing something else.

Danical
02-24-2009, 04:02 PM
Meh, I'll probably just keep turning them in at fried anyway, to maximize my afk time because GS is best when you're afk playing something else.

:yeahthat:

I turn a bounty in and rest for close to 40 minutes and do work in that time.

Most of the, however, I just don't do bounties. I fry in as fast as creatures can spawn then port back to a super node. I gave up trying to loot hunt since I'd rather claw my eyes out.

TheLastShamurai
02-24-2009, 05:15 PM
Meh, I'll probably just keep turning them in at fried anyway, to maximize my afk time because GS is best when you're afk playing something else.

Hulu is my hunting companion.

Kitsun
02-24-2009, 10:25 PM
I tried hunting and watching stuff on Netflix but I found that I get really distracted watching anything new.

Stanley Burrell
02-24-2009, 10:30 PM
I just don't think an enhancive should hinder how the system handles exp.

I don't know what you mean by hinders, but:

Discipline:
Discipline is a measure of a character's force of will, determination and ability to focus on the task at hand. Discipline is used in a wide range of game systems, some of which include determining the total amount of experience that a character can gain before needing to rest, and attempts to resist mental or emotion-based attacks.

Remember, you're using up your enhancive's ticks for each pulse you get from the slightly enlarged EXP bucket.

The Ponzzz
02-24-2009, 10:34 PM
Right, but I'm not saturated, and the system sees it as you are. Just because I am holding 1000 + enhancive bonus, doesn't mean I'm saturated, and so I should get the added oomph for the DIS even whening turning in bounties.

How it is now, you can easily bork it up if you don't remove the enhancive.

AKOE!
02-25-2009, 09:04 AM
i usually wait until I'm almost cleared to turn a task in just in case

DaCapn
02-25-2009, 01:30 PM
Meh, I'll probably just keep turning them in at fried anyway, to maximize my afk time because GS is best when you're afk playing something else.

Similarly, I find that I'm most satisfied when I don't have to be constantly maintaining my EXP state in GS so I typically turn in tasks at clear or muddled (largest total time not in the process of hunting/ EXP). If I only get 28k exp instead of 30k like someone who is grinding the shit out of GS, so be it.

BriarFox
02-25-2009, 01:36 PM
Similarly, I find that I'm most satisfied when I don't have to be constantly maintaining my EXP state in GS so I typically turn in tasks at clear or muddled (largest total time not in the process of hunting/ EXP). If I only get 28k exp instead of 30k like someone who is grinding the shit out of GS, so be it.

Frankly, that's my attitude as well. It's possible to maximize experience gain, but it's hardly worth it to me.