Exp absorption per pulse

[Drunken Durfin]

Okay, so I was totally jazzed that I am now getting 126 exp per pulse saturated on XXX with all my logic enhancers. Then I have someone tell me that they are getting 144 per pulse with no enhancers and the same friggin stats. What gives?

Durfin's Stats yeilding 126/pulse:
(STR): 100 (35)
(CON): 100 (40)
(DEX): 100 (25)
(AGI): 100 (20)
(DIS): 100 (35)
(AUR): 80 (5)
(LOG): 100 (30) ... 132 (46)
(INT): 95 (22)
(WIS): 99 (24)
(INF): 100 (15)

Guy who is getting 144/ pulse:
Normal (Bonus)
(STR): 100 (25
(CON): 93 (16)
(DEX): 100 (35)
(AGI): 94 (27)
(DIS): 100 (15)
(AUR): 100 (35)
(LOG): 100 (25)
(INT): 100 (30)
(WIS): 100 (30)
(INF): 90 (15)

I don't see how this jives with Krakii's documentation of the EXP system, http://www.krakiipedia.org/wiki/Experience#On-node. Someone want to enlighten me?

[Stunseed]

He's on an RPA. There's no way otherwise.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Maybe grouped with more than 4 people on a supernode?

[Drunken Durfin]

The way Krakii reads, you only get 1 extra point per pulse if you are in a group. There is no commentary about more points for more people in the group.

[phantasm]

Hard cap - there is a hard cap of 40 experience per pulse that was implemented once the bounty system allowed characters to get very extreme levels of saturation. This cap is of course before Gift of Lumnis or other experience multipliers are taken into consideration.


So.....how are you getting more than 120 on XXX?

[Stunseed]

< This cap is of course before Gift of Lumnis or other experience multipliers are taken into consideration. >

Read your quote. 40 is the most you can get per pulse, with 140 logic on a supernode, with a group of 4 or more.

[Drunken Durfin]

Beats me. Math does not lie though.

Related question: Could someone shoot me some pointers on being an RPA whore? I think I have gotten like 5 (ever) and I could really use some exp boost to encourage me to play more.

[Celephais]

Yeah, 144 is divisible by 4, XXX and 1X RPA would mean it's 36 per pulse multiplied up to 144.

[Drunken Durfin]

Where is this "4 or more" thing coming from and what do you get when you are in said group? I cannot find any documentation on it.

[Morrff]

Have someone "roleplay nominate" you when you're role playing. And I'll be checking my #'s and getting back to you.

[phantasm]

< This cap is of course before Gift of Lumnis or other experience multipliers are taken into consideration. >

Read your quote. 40 is the most you can get per pulse, with 140 logic on a supernode, with a group of 4 or more.

So what are the other "experience multipliers" that can get you more than 40 experience per pulse. I'm assuming RPA.


How then does Durfin get 126 when the max without a RPA should be 120?

[Drunken Durfin]

Have someone "roleplay nominate" you when you're role playing.

Ugh...effort. Would be so much easier if I could just send a fifth of booze to a GM. Oh well.

[Stunseed]

Because over 1x, the 40 experience cap is no longer in tact.

I personally believe at 2x/3x its at 50. I can't break 100xp at 2x or 150 at 3x without an RPA.

[phantasm]

I get +1 per pulse for being a group, no matter the size.

[Deathravin]

so much for a 40 'hard' cap... somebody needs to switch that to 40 'soft' cap.

[Stunseed]

Without XXX or an RPA, you will not get more than 40 a pulse. With 140 logic, on the Dais in the group of 4 people, I got 40 a pulse.

[Deathravin]

so you're calling Durfin a liar.

[Stunseed]

I'm calling the guy who said he doesn't have an RPA on him full of shit.

Durfin is good peepz.

[phantasm]

Breakdown of Durfin getting a pulse.

Base = 25
Logic bonus = 46/5 = 9.2
Bucket bonus = 1500/200= 7.5
Sum it up = 41.7
Round up = 42 per pulse
XXX = 126


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How to get 150 per pulse?
Would take a base pulse of 50 with XXX.

Base = 25
Bucket bonus = 2000/200 = +10
Group bonus = +1
Logic bonus= +14


It would required having a logic stat bonus of 70. 30 is the best you can do without enhancers. The most you can add from enhancers is +40, which would give you the 70 bonus. So yah, I would say 150 is probobly the max you can reach in a pulse.


This still doesn't explain why krakiipedia says there is a "hard cap" of 40, when its clear that people are going over it. Maybe it has something to do with the enhancive logic bonus.

[Deathravin]

Without XXX or an RPA, you will not get more than 40 a pulse. With 140 logic, on the Dais in the group of 4 people, I got 40 a pulse.

Durfin's Stats yeilding 126/pulse:
126 / 3 = 42.

So one of you is wrong.

I have no idea if the random dude who claims he's getting 140 is an idiot, misinformed, or just retarded - Probably all 3 since 140 doesn't divide by 3 evenly.

I do however, trust both Stunseed AND Durfin, but you can't both be right.

[phantasm]

What Stunseed said, does not disagree with the facts Durfin posted. Durfin was on XXX. Stunseed claims, you won't see more than 40 while not on XXX. But during XXX you can see more than 40.

[Stunseed]

Without XXX or an RPA, you will NOT get more than 40 logic per pulse. On XXX/RPA, the 40 experience cap is not in effect.

On XXX, I personally believe ( not proven ) that cap is raised to 50. When I get back on XXX, I will post up me getting as much of it as I can.

1. 140 logic.
2. 4 people in group.
3. On a supernode.

[Bobmuhthol]

Man you guys are fucking awful at reading. There has been so much unnecessary confusion.

[Drunken Durfin]

Well, to be completely honest, I was going by what Psinet tells me. So if I am wrong it is all Jamus' fault.

I'll get saturated tomorrow and do the math by hand.

[Deathravin]

Without XXX or an RPA, you will NOT get more than 40 logic per pulse. On XXX/RPA, the 40 experience cap is not in effect.

On XXX, I personally believe ( not proven ) that cap is raised to 50. When I get back on XXX, I will post up me getting as much of it as I can.

1. 140 logic.
2. 4 people in group.
3. On a supernode.

I call bullshit on XXX xp/min cap being raised.
XXX has always been just that... 3x xp. That's it, no other special rules apply. It's an automatic 3x xp RPA. That's it.

[Celephais]

I call bullshit on XXX xp/min cap being raised.
XXX has always been just that... 3x xp. That's it, no other special rules apply. It's an automatic 3x xp RPA. That's it.
I'm going to have to agree... sorry stun but I'm pretty sure you're just going on colloquial evidence.

[phantasm]

This cap is of course before Gift of Lumnis or other experience multipliers are taken into consideration.

This implies that everything is summed up, "hard capped" at 40, and then XXX, and RPA's are applied to that result.

[Deathravin]

if I had some Logic enhansives, I'd test it out, but I don't. Just make a burghal gnome with 100 Logic (+35 logic bonus), get him saturated, pop on a buttload of logic enhansives, throw a dude in his group, and sit in a node. When his XXX goes away (and you're level 5), do it again and see if it's the XXX xp /3.

[Celephais]

Or durfin can just tell us what he gets when his XXX wares off.

[Deathravin]

well... ya...

[phantasm]

I didn't realize this. Maybe everyone else already knew. I assumed that if a wound was hidnering your XP absortion, it would show up when you type EXP. Like it does if you have major nerve damage.

I just noticed, if I have rank 1 nerve damage, my XP pulse is reduced by 3 points.

[SolitareConfinement]

one thing im surprised no one has considered is:

the way psinet seems to track it is literally down to the second. so its not exact on the exper per pulse/minute first of all...second thing that makes it innacurate, is it does not take into account the insta-exper when turning in a bounty with a full head. so say you get 200 insta-exper from turning in a bounty and then hit xp, your exp per minute will shoot up sometimes catastrophically :) like this...especially if you're having one of those days where you get bounty after bounty that you can complete in a hunt etc

[Morrff]

Right, but if you type XP right away after turning in the bounty, then keep hitting XP until you get that next pulse reading, all Psinet's doing is counting the added EXP...So it's accurate if you keep on it

[Danical]

I'm a Burghal Gnome with 50 Logic Bonus on a super node.

After turning in a 250 exp task on a fried mind, bringing me to saturated, and on a super node with 50 Logic Bonus I pulsed for 43.

[Danical]

41 coming from Saturated to Fried and 40 after that.

[Danical]

It would required having a logic stat bonus of 70. 30 is the best you can do without enhancers. The most you can add from enhancers is +40, which would give you the 70 bonus. So yah, I would say 150 is probobly the max you can reach in a pulse.

Naeth. Base 35 (BG). Max BONUS is +20 via enhancives for a total of 55.

[Danical]

Turned in a 1000 exp bounty, on a fried mind, pulsing for 44 per.

[Stunseed]

I just pulled 41 experience sitting at the statue in Teras off XXX, saturated.

Logic (LOG): 100 (30) ... 140 (50)

Consider that one being me eating crow. I had a perfect setup in EN and honestly was never able to get over 40. On XXX, I can get 132 / 3 = 44. ( And 88 on 2x )

Yeah, it was early. Sue me.

[Deathravin]

so the hard cap of 40 is pretty much blown out of the water.

Pretty sure 152/3 = 50.66...

[SolitareConfinement]

Right, but if you type XP right away after turning in the bounty, then keep hitting XP until you get that next pulse reading, all Psinet's doing is counting the added EXP...So it's accurate if you keep on it

actually no sir it is not, i've watched it on days like i stated before and it kept telling me i was getting exper in the 150's until my XXX dropped

[Deathravin]

get lich, use ;xpsf. problem solved.

[phantasm]

Level: 60 Deeds: 41 Mana: 222/222 max
Next: 75164 Sting: None
PTP/MTP: 36/0 Deaths: 5

Session: 14 minutes, 41 seconds
Exp: 438 [29.83/min, 1789.78/hr, 1 day, 17 hours, 59 minutes, 46 seconds to next]
Fame: 1929 [131.37/min, 7882.41/hr]

XXX: Inactive, 5d 09h 41:16 until next




Level: 60 Deeds: 41 Mana: 201/222 max
Next: 75130 Sting: None
PTP/MTP: 36/0 Deaths: 5

Session: 15 minutes, 53 seconds
Exp: 472 [29.72/min, 1783.00/hr, 1 day, 18 hours, 8 minutes, 12 seconds to next]
Fame: 1929 [121.45/min, 7286.88/hr]

XXX: Inactive, 5d 09h 40:05 until next
Recent: +34 exp


75164 - 15130 = 34

Psinet tracks experience pulses accurately. We're not talking about looking at the experience per minute #. We're talking about type XP over and over until you get a pulse, and seeing exactly how much xp you just gained.

[SolitareConfinement]

75164 - 15130 = 34

Psinet tracks experience pulses accurately. We're not talking about looking at the experience per minute #. We're talking about type XP over and over until you get a pulse, and seeing exactly how much xp you just gained.

yes i know what YOU GUYS are doing...im saying what this OTHER person told Durfin is PROBABLY doing :)

[Stunseed]

Hard cap - there is a hard cap of 40 experience per pulse that was implemented once the bounty system allowed characters to get very extreme levels of saturation. This cap is of course before Gift of Lumnis or other experience multipliers are taken into consideration.


This implies that everything is summed up, "hard capped" at 40, and then XXX, and RPA's are applied to that result.

Something else to consider. This statement is nearly true with the blaring exception of the saturated mind. It's the experience over the highest possible that breaks the 40/pulse mark. Gnimble proved it with "41 coming from Saturated to Fried and 40 after that". Considering they changed the AdG from just heaping experience on to giving you half up front in a fried/sat situation, I'm not sure what the upper limit is, but I believe that 50 is going to be that plateau.

[droit]

I'm thinking this might be a good place to plug the +12 LOG torc (neckworn) I'm about to put up for sale. 1 coin min bid in the auction folder.

[Emeriana]

Hard cap - there is a hard cap of 40 experience per pulse that was implemented once the bounty system allowed characters to get very extreme levels of saturation. This cap is of course before Gift of Lumnis or other experience multipliers are taken into consideration.



Something else to consider. This statement is nearly true with the blaring exception of the saturated mind. It's the experience over the highest possible that breaks the 40/pulse mark. Gnimble proved it with "41 coming from Saturated to Fried and 40 after that". Considering they changed the AdG from just heaping experience on to giving you half up front in a fried/sat situation, I'm not sure what the upper limit is, but I believe that 50 is going to be that plateau.


I do love how the AdG gives you pretty much half the xp up front in a friend/sat situation. That was one addition to GS I was amazed with when I returned. It makes the levels seem to fly by.