enhancives.. yes/no ? ?

[Apotheosis]

so, are enhancives all that great?

in other words, is it worth the effort to obtain them.


obviously, it depends on the enhancive type and skill / stat being boosted.. duh..

[Drevihyin]

In my opinion a great deal would depend on the goals you're trying to obtain. I wear one enhancive and its merchant won from EG. My stats are lacking and I could care less, somehow I manage to get by. On the other hand some love running the numbers gambit and are very mechanic oriented. I was informed recently that vanity also can be to blame.

Drevihyn

[thefarmer]

If you have to have enhancives to be viable, reroll. Otherwise, it's like gear. You can play gs with 4x plain gear and do fine. Better gear means you can do more. Enhancives are the same way.

[crb]

I have dozens, they are a cheap, relatively, way of boosting your stats in comparison with other gear.

What would someone pay for a permanent heroism item? Far more than what it'll cost you to get equivalent AS from enhancives.

The only hard thing is keeping them all straight. I have a script that puts them all on before a hunt and takes them all off after, within the script as I touch each item it echoes to my screen what it does and it's status (crumbly/not, etc). So I can remember. With so many, its hard.

[Fallen]

Enhancives should be gathered to maximize a desired benefit: More CS/AS/TD/DS/CMAN Offense/Defense, A lore threshold, Spirit etc

Just gathering random enhancives is a waste of time.

[Apotheosis]

ok.. that makes sense.. so if you were going for AS, some +STR, +WEAPON RANKS, +CMAN, enhancives will stack to create combined benefit etc...?? whereas +spirit TD, +Survival, +DEX, +spirit recover will pretty much be a waste..

and between AG + merchants, recharging them isn't that much of a hassle, right?

[Fallen]

ok.. that makes sense.. so if you were going for AS, some +STR, +WEAPON RANKS, +CMAN, enhancives will stack to create combined benefit etc...?? whereas +spirit TD, +Survival, +DEX, +spirit recover will pretty much be a waste..

and between AG + merchants, recharging them isn't that much of a hassle, right?

For weapon AS, yes. +STR, +Weapon Type, +CM.

In general, keeping enhancives recharged isn't a problem if you're a high level character and complete bounties often as part of your hunts. You may never be able to get your Fixskill/Fixstat potions, but you should be set to keep yourself enhanced. Every enhancive OTHER than the bounty guild badge can be recharged by another. If you would rather pay silvers than BPs you can have someone else you trust use their points in your stead.

[thefarmer]

ok.. that makes sense.. so if you were going for AS, some +STR, +WEAPON RANKS, +CMAN, enhancives will stack to create combined benefit etc...?? whereas +spirit TD, +Survival, +DEX, +spirit recover will pretty much be a waste..

and between AG + merchants, recharging them isn't that much of a hassle, right?

So far, merchants have been nixxed by staff to recharge enhancives

Edit: I don't really use enhancives unless I'm uphunting like a motherfucker, or taking on capped+ shit in invasions. Then again, I'm a bad example as I haven't hunted in months, other than a few ocean titans in Sol.

[droit]

I'll echo what's been said so far. Enhancives are the most useful when you have certain goals in mind, like a lore threshold or the next AGIDEX RT reduction, or to shore up certain deficiencies. As a ranger, my AS doesn't really compare to most other physical professions, so the edged bonus enhancives I've collected are probably more useful to me than to say, a paladin. My other major investment has been in stamina recovery items because buttloads of stamina + sunfist = win. The full +50 I've amassed is beyond overkill and I've only really worn them all a couple times, but that brings me to another aspect of the enhancive system: goal achievement. I'm a very goal-oriented player, so the new enhancive economy has been awesome for me because it created a whole new realm of goals to aim for out of the blue. It's totally a mental thing, but I gain a lot of satisfaction from having a full +50 edged and +50 stamina recovery.

[Swami71]

If you worry about your silver/cash making potential like me. Then enhancives are a totally drain. I still collect lots of Aura for CS and spirit/wracking boost but i don't wear them much. When I find an enhancive now days thats crumbly that i know will sell for around 50k I just wear it and watch it crumble. Thats cheap fun.

[conair4022]

I just want to brighten my inventory description with random patchwork of utter heap of rejected notion of what crap should look like ... and wear it with pride that all my stats matched!

[Fallen]

There are some enhancives I never remove due to them being pieces of Evarin's outfit. These include vambraces, altered COL bracers, my giftbox item, etc. They are all non-crumbly, and because they boost my max Spirit, potentially deadly if I am inattentive when I choose to ignore them.

Otherwise, I have tied the wearing and removing of my temporary enhancives to my Ring in/Ring out script to go hunt. Yes, they are ugly, but hunting isn't about looking pretty. It is about being as well prepared and as efficient as possible while in the field.

[Stunseed]

Ding.

I'm nearly capped at logic and agility now, and about halfway to my enhancive bonus to Shield Use.

+37 to logic.
+23 to agility.
+19 to shield use.
+7 to dodge.

[Fallen]

What is the DS bonus for those Shield Use enhancives? Can you break it down for how many you need per point of DS?

[Izzy]

I love enhancives, clearly. Still trying to cap off my ranged bonus, but there's something highly satisfying about tacking on 40 extra AS in a second. It's like DB for offence. At some point I hope to have ranged, agi, dex, and strength maxed (though this is likely a lofty goal with the limited number of items one can wear).

[Fallen]

I love enhancives, clearly. Still trying to cap off my ranged bonus, but there's something highly satisfying about tacking on 40 extra AS in a second. It's like DB for offence. At some point I hope to have ranged, agi, dex, and strength maxed (though this is likely a lofty goal with the limited number of items one can wear).

Premium point enhancives help a lot with this as you can get non-treasure found item slots enhanced. Unfortunately, only your own points will work. It does allow you to get clothing and containers fixed with enhancives, freeing up your more traditional slots for treasure borne items. I would suggest only getting Stats done as opposed to skills. You never know what you crazy swingers will want to switch up to next, but you will always want a lot of CON or whatever else is your prime stats.

[Izzy]

Premium point enhancives help a lot with this as you can get non-treasure found item slots enhanced. Unfortunately, only your own points will work. It does allow you to get clothing and containers fixed with enhancives, freeing up your more traditional slots for treasure borne items. I would suggest only getting Stats done as opposed to skills. You never know what you crazy swingers will want to switch up to next, but you will always want a lot of CON or whatever else is your prime stats.

Swingers?! Rofl @ melee weapons ;)

That's a good idea though. Are the PP enhancives rechargeable via the AG? And how much do they cost?

[Fallen]

Swingers?! Rofl @ melee weapons ;)

That's a good idea though. Are the PP enhancives rechargeable via the AG? And how much do they cost?

I consider spit ballers and swingers as one and the same.

They are indeed rechargeable, but can be pretty expensive to recharge depending on what you want to have done. Only behind auction quality enhancives, PP enhancives are the biggest in terms of charges, and of course come fully charged.

Enhancive level 1 or 2 1800
Enhancive level 3 or 4 2400

[Fallen]

I will post the info here but it comes out ugly. Here is the link to the Premium benefits page. Scroll down to find the differences between the enhancive levels: https://www.play.net/gs4/premium/premiumplus.asp#enhance1

One Enhancive Alteration Scroll (Level 1)
Bonuses to Stats -or- Max-Stats
Description: You may add 1 or 2 of the following enhancive alterations to any item of your choice. The enhancive alteration will add a bonus to your:
Max ManaConstitutionAuraDisciplineMax HealthDexterityLogicWisdomMax StaminaAgilityIntuitionInfluenceStrength
If you select two different types of bonuses to be applied to your item, then the total bonus may be no more than 10 altogether. If you only select one type of bonus to be applied to your item, the the total bonus may not be more than 7.
The effects of this enhancement will be temporary, but should last for a couple of months, depending on how often the item is used.
Instructions: Getting an item enhanced is as easy as 1 - 2 - 3! All you have to do is visit the lighthouse on the Isle of the Four Winds and go see Sadie! With your item in your hand you can pick up a scroll. You may, at your leisure, use the scroll to get an enhancement on any of your items and you don't have to wait in any lines! Once you have decided what stat bonuses you desire, just send the scroll to Sadie and as soon as she is done with it, she will send a messenger to you to confirm she has completed it as you wanted.
One Enhancive Alteration Scroll (Level 2)
Bonuses to Skill Bonuses
Description: You may add 1 or 2 of the following enhancive alterations to any item of your choice. The enhancive alteration will add a bonus to your:
Two Weapon Combat BonusElemental Lore - Earth BonusArmor Use BonusElemental Lore - Fire BonusShield Use BonusElemental Lore - Water BonusCombat Maneuvers BonusSpiritual Lore - Blessings BonusEdged Weapons BonusSpiritual Lore - Religion BonusBlunt Weapons BonusSpiritual Lore - Summoning BonusTwo-Handed Weapons BonusSorcerous Lore - Demonology BonusRanged Weapons BonusSorcerous Lore - Necromancy BonusThrown Weapons BonusMental Lore - Divination BonusPolearm Weapons BonusMental Lore - Manipulation BonusBrawling BonusMental Lore - Telepathy BonusAmbush BonusMental Lore - Transference BonusMulti Opponent Combat BonusMental Lore - Transformation BonusPhysical Fitness BonusSurvival BonusDodging BonusDisarming Traps BonusArcane Symbols BonusPicking Locks BonusMagic Item Use BonusStalking and Hiding BonusSpell Aiming BonusPerception BonusHarness Power BonusClimbing BonusElemental Mana Control BonusSwimming BonusMental Mana Control BonusFirst Aid BonusSpirit Mana Control BonusTrading BonusElemental Lore - Air BonusPickpocketing Bonus
If you select two different types of bonuses to be applied to your item, then the total bonus may be no more than 10 altogether. If you only select one type of bonus to be applied to your item, the the total bonus may not be more than 7.
The effects of this enhancement will be temporary, but should last for a couple of months, depending on how often the item is used.
Instructions: Getting an item enhanced is as easy as 1 - 2 - 3! All you have to do is visit the lighthouse on the Isle of the Four Winds and go see Sadie! With your item in your hand you can pick up a scroll. You may, at your leisure, use the scroll to get an enhancement on any of your items and you don't have to wait in any lines! Once you have decided what skill bonuses you desire, just send the scroll to Sadie and as soon as she is done with it, she will send a messenger to you to confirm she has completed it as you wanted.
One Unique Item-script Alteration Scroll
Description: Did you always want your weeble to wobble? Or maybe you actually DO want it to fall down? Now's your chance! Pick up an alteration scroll to request a unique item-script that YOU design.
Only items that have no current scripts are eligible for this enhancement.
Instructions: Getting an item scripted is as easy as 1 - 2 - 3! All you have to do is visit the lighthouse on the Isle of the Four Winds and go see Sadie! With your item in your hand you can pick up a scroll. You may, at your leisure, use the scroll to request a script that you design and you don't have to wait in any lines! Once you have decided what you want your item to do, just send the scroll to Sadie and as soon as she is done with it, she will send a messenger to you to confirm she has completed it as you wanted.
One Enhancive Alteration Scroll (Level 3)
Stat Recovery Enhancements
Description: Pick one recovery bonus from the following list. This enhancement will add a bonus to your:
Mana RecoveryHealth RecoverySpirit RecoveryStamina Recovery
IN ADDITION, you may add a 5 point Level 1 (https://www.play.net/gs4/premium/premiumplus.asp#enhance1) or Level 2 (https://www.play.net/gs4/premium/premiumplus.asp#enhance2) enhancive bonus to your item.
The effects of this enhancement will be temporary, but should last for a couple of months, depending on how often the item is used.
Instructions: Getting an item enhanced is as easy as 1 - 2 - 3! All you have to do is visit the lighthouse on the Isle of the Four Winds and go see Sadie! With your item in your hand you can pick up a scroll. You may, at your leisure, use the scroll to get an enhancement on any of your items and you don't have to wait in any lines! Once you have decided what bonuses you desire, just send the scroll to Sadie and as soon as she is done with it, she will send a messenger to you to confirm she has completed it as you wanted.
One Common Flare Added to One Weapon
Description: You may add a heat, cold, electricity, impact (vibration) or acid flare to a weapon of your choice.
Instructions: Adding a flare to an item is as easy as 1 - 2 - 3! All you have to do is visit the lighthouse on the Isle of the Four Winds and go see Sadie! With your weapon in your hand you can pick up a scroll. You may, at your leisure, use the scroll to get a flare added to any of your weapons and you don't have to wait in any lines! Once you have decided what flare you desire, just send the scroll to Sadie and as soon as she is done with it, she will send a messenger to you to confirm she has completed it as you wanted.
One Enhancive Alteration Scroll (Level 4)
Bonuses to Skill Ranks and Bonuses
Description: You may add 1 or 2 of the following enhancive alterations to any item of your choice. The enhancive alteration will add a bonus to your:
Two Weapon Combat Bonus and RanksElemental Lore - Earth Bonus and RanksArmor Use Bonus and RanksElemental Lore - Fire Bonus and RanksShield Use Bonus and RanksElemental Lore - Water Bonus and RanksCombat Maneuvers Bonus and RanksSpiritual Lore - Blessings Bonus and RanksEdged Weapons Bonus and RanksSpiritual Lore - Religion Bonus and RanksBlunt Weapons Bonus and RanksSpiritual Lore - Summoning Bonus and RanksTwo-Handed Weapons Bonus and RanksSorcerous Lore - Demonology Bonus and RanksRanged Weapons Bonus and RanksSorcerous Lore - Necromancy Bonus and RanksThrown Weapons Bonus and RanksMental Lore - Divination Bonus and RanksPolearm Weapons Bonus and RanksMental Lore - Manipulation Bonus and RanksBrawling Bonus and RanksMental Lore - Telepathy Bonus and RanksAmbush Bonus and RanksMental Lore - Transference Bonus and RanksMulti Opponent Combat Bonus and RanksMental Lore - Transformation Bonus and RanksPhysical Fitness Bonus and RanksSurvival Bonus and RanksDodging Bonus and RanksDisarming Traps Bonus and RanksArcane Symbols Bonus and RanksPicking Locks Bonus and RanksMagic Item Use Bonus and RanksStalking and Hiding Bonus and RanksSpell Aiming Bonus and RanksPerception Bonus and RanksHarness Power Bonus and RanksClimbing Bonus and RanksElemental Mana Control Bonus and RanksSwimming Bonus and RanksMental Mana Control Bonus and RanksFirst Aid Bonus and RanksSpirit Mana Control Bonus and RanksTrading Bonus and RanksElemental Lore - Air Bonus and RanksPickpocketing Bonus and Ranks
If you select two different types of bonuses to be applied to your item, then the total bonus may be no more than 10 altogether. If you only select one type of bonus to be applied to your item, the the total bonus may not be more than 7.
The effects of this enhancement will be temporary, but should last for a couple of months, depending on how often the item is used.
Instructions: Getting an item enhanced is as easy as 1 - 2 - 3! All you have to do is visit the lighthouse on the Isle of the Four Winds and go see Sadie! With your item in your hand you can pick up a scroll. You may, at your leisure, use the scroll to get an enhancement on any of your items and you don't have to wait in any lines! Once you have decided what skill ranks and bonuses you desire, just send the scroll to Sadie and as soon as she is done with it, she will send a messenger to you to confirm she has completed it as you wanted.

[Izzy]

I wish I hadn't been an idiot and wasted like 2400 premium points on alterations those years ago.

[NocturnalRob]

I wish I hadn't been an idiot and wasted like 2400 premium points on alterations those years ago.
nah, i'm sure your "vaalin spike-studded loincloth" was totally worth it...

[Fallen]

I wish I hadn't been an idiot and wasted like 2400 premium points on alterations those years ago.

Yeah. Premium Points Enhancives are really the best way to go with the points. Especially if you have the silvers/means to get your hands on the use of other people's points. I am having my boots +5 +5 to Aura/Wisdom Bonus. I was going to do my last boost to Spirit Recovery, but if they nerf the shit out of COL I wont need it. Can't go wrong with more CS, though.

[elcidcannon]

is there any way to recharge a crumbly enhancive before it actually crumbles?

[Izzy]

is there any way to recharge a crumbly enhancive before it actually crumbles?

Same way you charge any enhancive, via the adventurers guild.

[elcidcannon]

booyah!

[AMUSED1]

Yeah. Premium Points Enhancives are really the best way to go with the points. Especially if you have the silvers/means to get your hands on the use of other people's points. I am having my boots +5 +5 to Aura/Wisdom Bonus. I was going to do my last boost to Spirit Recovery, but if they nerf the shit out of COL I wont need it. Can't go wrong with more CS, though.

You can't have other people use their points to get you enhancives. However, you can have them use their points to get you something else so you can save your own points for enhancives. The premium point enhancives are account attuned. Meaning, the item can be given to someone on a different account but the enhancives WILL NOT work if you do.

[Fallen]

You can't have other people use their points to get you enhancives. However, you can have them use their points to get you something else so you can save your own points for enhancives. The premium point enhancives are account attuned. Meaning, the item can be given to someone on a different account but the enhancives WILL NOT work if you do.

Yep. That is what I meant, though I didn't convey it very well. Use your own points for stuff that must be soul bound. Use other people's points for services without limitations.

[The Scholar]

I have a few spell aiming enhancives that work beautifully (Since I have no way to boost my spell AS other than training my one rank a level). Luckily, I found both of them. I think enhancives are a great way to boost things you wouldn't get normally. Especially for those of us who have a build off the beaten path.

[Fallen]

I have a few spell aiming enhancives that work beautifully (Since I have no way to boost my spell AS other than training my one rank a level). Luckily, I found both of them. I think enhancives are a great way to boost things you wouldn't get normally. Especially for those of us who have a build off the beaten path.

Unless it is at its enhancive cap, enhancing your DEX stat will also raise your bolt AS. Someone will correct me if I am wrong, but I believe it is 1 point of AS for every +1 to Dex Bonus.

[AKOE!]

If I'm going to somewhere dangerous i.e. warcamp with my capped maniac friends : ) I'll put them on but otherwise I don't wear them. Or if I just really wanna drool over my own AS (no pun intended)

[Rimalon]

Unless it is at its enhancive cap, enhancing your DEX stat will also raise your bolt AS. Someone will correct me if I am wrong, but I believe it is 1 point of AS for every +1 to Dex Bonus.

You are correct, suh.

+50 Spell Aim and +40 DEX is so awesome to have. If only I had a reason to use them...

I'M LOOKING AT YOU, NEW RIFT AREA.

[Allereli]

I'M LOOKING AT YOU, NEW RIFT AREA.

new rift area 2017!

[Fallen]

You are correct, suh.

+50 Spell Aim and +40 DEX is so awesome to have. If only I had a reason to use them...

I'M LOOKING AT YOU, NEW RIFT AREA.

WAAAY back in the day when I played, I wore all my enhancives on every hunt. Why? WHY THE FUCK NOT? Overkill is a beautiful thing. That, and my CS without them was like 502.

[Rimalon]

I don't wear them every hunt because I almost never cast a bolt spell.

It's a shame sorcerers can only cast immolation from a scroll!

=(

[Fallen]

Actually, that scroll is not a standard drop. Immo is protected from the treasure system. Go figure.

WHY NOT BOOST YOUR CS TO MAX, THEN, SIR?!?!

[The Scholar]

Unless it is at its enhancive cap, enhancing your DEX stat will also raise your bolt AS. Someone will correct me if I am wrong, but I believe it is 1 point of AS for every +1 to Dex Bonus.

I have some of those dex flasks from the last festival. I'll test it and find out.

[elcidcannon]

Unless it is at its enhancive cap, enhancing your DEX stat will also raise your bolt AS. Someone will correct me if I am wrong, but I believe it is 1 point of AS for every +1 to Dex Bonus.


Agreed. It works just like strength in the swinging AS equation.