I quit - Emeradan being a big reason [Archive] - The Gemstone IV Players' Corner

tyrant-201

01-27-2009, 04:34 AM

So I pissed someone off who knows both Andraste and Emeradan, because now they're watching me more than I've ever been watched.

So I'm pretty upset about what a cess-pool GS has become. People rarely roleplay if at all (majority), act like 12 year olds, spell like 12 year olds, and drone their character in public for other characters.

This guy Zayp for instance has sat at the Fountain in Illistim for months now as a gem-singing drone for another character. I don't mind slave characters. I've had a few myself. But droning them in public is such a major annoyance to people who don't want all that much screen scroll. My character can't go to many quiet places in Illistim being that he's dark elven. Tonight a bunch of people were complaining about it, so I politely asked him if he could find a new location. Like the one to the east which is also sancted and noded. His script started and stopped, he ignored me.. so I politely asked again before the same thing happened. So I moved him eastward, thinking he might not pay attention or care while his script ran. He moved back, I reported asking could someone please do something about the nuisance the "screen noise" the gem-singing drone was making. My report went ignored. Yet when I pulled him southeastward to kill him, I instantly got pulled by Emeradan. He asks me if I know why he pulled me, I nod, and he gives me the prompt to read policy.

I'm not going to read policy. I'd rather cancel my account and get on with the more important things I ought to be doing anyway. I really had no opinion Emeradan before he started fucking with me in the game. This wasn't an isolated occasion.

Telare's player, for sake of clarity.

thefarmer

01-27-2009, 04:56 AM

He moved back, I reported asking could someone please do something about the nuisance the "screen noise" the gem-singing drone was making. My report went ignored. Yet when I pulled him southeastward to kill him, I instantly got pulled by Emeradan.

You thought you could get away with killing him because he wouldn't stop purifying?

now they're watching me more than I've ever been watched.....This wasn't an isolated occasion.

I'm sure you're innocent of any wrongdoing..

tyrant-201

01-27-2009, 05:00 AM

You thought you could get away with killing him because he wouldn't stop purifying?

I'm sure you're innocent of any wrongdoing..

Most people who know Telare know he acts pretty justly in comparison to quite a few other people. Yeah, I killed him because he was being annoying and knew he was being annoying. Might not fly in the rulebook but the staff also ignored my request as well.

I'm not always innocent of wrongdoing, no. But it's been quite ridiculous how quick they are to respond in my case, considering their track record.

Joe

01-27-2009, 05:05 AM

You thought you could get away with killing him because he wouldn't stop purifying?

I'm sure you're innocent of any wrongdoing..

QFT

thefarmer

01-27-2009, 05:06 AM

Most people who know Telare know he acts pretty justly in comparison to quite a few other people. Yeah, I killed him because he was being annoying and knew he was being annoying. Might not fly in the rulebook but the staff also ignored my request as well.

So they ignored you. That gives you the right to do what you want?

[QUOTE=tyrant-201;878400]I'm not always innocent of wrongdoing, no. But it's been quite ridiculous how quick they are to respond in my case, considering their track record.

Their track record of what? Apparently they've been keeping tabs on you, and from the attitude you've displayed in your two posts.. it's clear why.

tyrant-201

01-27-2009, 05:16 AM

Disagree with me. That's fine. I don't think killing him was particularly wrong for the inconvenience and nuisance he's caused people at that location for several months. I recognize its against policy and refuse to read the policy. Simple as that. I would've liked to have had a discussion before the warning as issued, but it is what it is.

If I have to read policy for something I don't regret doing or feel was "wrong" (nevermind policy), then I won't play. As the subscriber I'm entitled to do that. What I saw from Emeradan is the same I've heard and experienced in the past. Quick not to talk about things, but swiftly administer "punishment".

Roleplay might as well be dead, on its way to extinction. That's the only reason I've played the past couple years. They won't last with the same product/service much longer.

As far as whatever vendetta you have against me, I'm hoping it's not due to the fact that I openly criticized you for buying up all my character's clothes and creating a character named Telarr when I last said I was quitting. Because honestly that was rather pathetic. I can't actually complain about an OOC name for that character, though. Which is a change from all that Vivaldi/Davinci crap. You're a hack and always will be <3

Joe

01-27-2009, 05:19 AM

The time I got in trouble with Emerdan, we talked just fine after the warning and the policy thinger. I'm still playing, and no I'm not a kissass.

Maybe you're the one with the problem?

tyrant-201

01-27-2009, 05:24 AM

The time I got in trouble with Emerdan, we talked just fine after the warning and the policy thinger. I'm still playing, and no I'm not a kissass.

Maybe you're the one with the problem?

Could very well be. I'm the one with the problem without subscriptions to GS, though. I don't generally have any problems with anyone.

thefarmer

01-27-2009, 05:29 AM

I don't think killing him was particularly wrong.... I recognize its against policy and refuse to read the policy.

If I have to read policy for something I don't regret doing or feel was "wrong" (nevermind policy), then I won't play. As the subscriber I'm entitled to do that.

The only thing I get from you is "IF I CAN"T PLAY WITH MY TOYS THE WAY I WANT IN YOUR PLAYGROUND, I'M GOING HOME AND GONNA TELL MY MOMMY!!!11"

As far as whatever vendetta you have against me, I'm hoping it's not due to the fact that I openly criticized you for buying up all my character's clothes and creating a character named Telarr when I last said I was quitting. Because honestly that was rather pathetic. I can't actually complain about an OOC name for that character, though. Which is a change from all that Vivaldi/Davinci crap. You're a hack and always will be <3

I'm sure it's a big deal for you to think you're special or popular.. but I hate to burst your E-peen bubble, but I created Telarr without knowing you and before I bought your stuff. I could care less who you were before this thread, and I'll care even less (if that's possible) after you go.

As for your Vivaldi/Divinci reference? I have no idea what that means.. maybe someone who's not a "hack" can tell me.

phantasm

01-27-2009, 05:32 AM

tyrant-201

01-27-2009, 05:32 AM

The only thing I get from you is "IF I CAN"T PLAY WITH MY TOYS THE WAY I WANT IN YOUR PLAYGROUND, I'M GOING HOME AND GONNA TELL MY MOMMY!!!11"

I'm sure it's a big deal for you to think you're special or popular.. but I hate to burst your E-peen bubble, but I created Telarr without knowing you and before I bought your stuff. I could care less who you were before this thread, and I'll care even less (if that's possible) after you go.

As for your Vivaldi/Divinci reference? I have no idea what that means.. maybe someone who's not a "hack" can tell me.

It means you're unoriginal. Can't come up with your own shit. Sorry I have to spell that out for you.

tyrant-201

01-27-2009, 05:36 AM

Player does something stupid.
GM issues punishment.
Player gets butt hurt and makes a post on forum.
Other forum members laugh deliciously at his failure.
Player tries to save face.
Some forum members pretend to agree with player.
Player gets some confidence and posts more cry baby paragraphs.
Everyone laughs at whining player some more.

^^
This is why you shouldn't try to be a vigilante.
Its not your responsibility to defend gemstone from all that you think is evil.
You should just play your character, and stay quite (or complain out of game).
If you decide to take action in game.
People will laugh, you will cry, and life will go on, with or without you.

Not crying. If you don't agree with me that's perfectly fine. Your deal. I get that the whole deal here is to try and get me riled up, but I'm just stating my opinion. Take it or leave it. I'm sure a lot of other people are quite tired of similar things. And I'm sure a lot of you still play the game and get a lot of enjoyment out of it. That's your bag. I'm not particularly happy with the game or the people that run it. So I'm quitting.

thefarmer

01-27-2009, 05:39 AM

It means you're unoriginal. Can't come up with your own shit. Sorry I have to spell that out for you.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vivaldi

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonardo_da_Vinci

Please tell me how those two go together? I'm too much of a hack to figure it out..

Edit: Oh, as for being unoriginal...

Results for: telare
Results 1 - 10 of about 78,100 for telare. (0.21 seconds)

Guess you're not as original as you thought?

tyrant-201

01-27-2009, 05:42 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vivaldi

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonardo_da_Vinci

Please tell me how those two go together? I'm too much of a hack to figure it out..

Your characters are named after famous composers and artists, are they not? I'm fairly certain one of your guys names is Vivaldi. The others I'm not so sure of, other than they're famous people that everyone would recognize.

tyrant-201

01-27-2009, 05:43 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vivaldi

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonardo_da_Vinci

Please tell me how those two go together? I'm too much of a hack to figure it out..

Edit: Oh, as for being unoriginal...

Guess you're not as original as you thought?

Can you think of anyone famous in real life named Telare? Any famous novel involving a character named Telare? Google searching is one thing. Copying names of actual very well known people is another.

Yes, unoriginal.

Your hackness, however interesting it is, isn't the topic. So before I get accused of trying to change the subject, let's stay on subject!

thefarmer

01-27-2009, 05:44 AM

Still didn't answer me on how Vivaldi and da Vinci go together.

diethx

01-27-2009, 05:45 AM

Your characters are named after famous composers and artists, are they not? I'm fairly certain one of your guys names is Vivaldi. The others I'm not so sure of, other than they're famous people that everyone would recognize.

I know of a few of his characters, and none of them are even close to being famous names other than Vivaldi.

Also, isn't scripting in public to the point where it's disturbing others' gameplay against policy? Isn't that why Drew2 couldn't run his healing scripts in TSC anymore? I may be remembering incorrectly, but if i'm right, this is just more double standard bullshit.

tyrant-201

01-27-2009, 05:48 AM

I know of a few of his characters, and none of them are even close to being famous names other than Vivaldi.

Also, isn't scripting in public to the point where it's disturbing others' gameplay against policy? Isn't that why Drew2 couldn't run his healing scripts in TSC anymore? I may be remembering incorrectly, but if i'm right, this is just more double standard bullshit.

that's essentially the basis of my argument. I reported thinking it WAS against policy, if it was I was ignored. Tried several times again to talk to the guy, then drug him away because my character was so annoyed with him.

tyrant-201

01-27-2009, 05:49 AM

Still didn't answer me on how Vivaldi and da Vinci go together.

I thought Davinche or Davinci were one of your character's names. I'm well aware they're two separate people.

Satisfy you?

phantasm

01-27-2009, 05:51 AM

This guy seems to have a problem with everyone......

Leave the farmer alone about his characters names, and go cancel your account.

Drevihyin

01-27-2009, 05:53 AM

You will be missed...when is your stuff going on the market?

thefarmer

01-27-2009, 05:54 AM

I know of a few of his characters, and none of them are even close to being famous names other than Vivaldi.

Also, isn't scripting in public to the point where it's disturbing others' gameplay against policy? Isn't that why Drew2 couldn't run his healing scripts in TSC anymore? I may be remembering incorrectly, but if i'm right, this is just more double standard bullshit.

Tayre got locked out because his script was too fast and essentially stopped other empaths from healing people.

Edit: Yes, the official line was that he got locked for disruption.. but without the other empaths whining about not getting exp while he was in the room, there wouldn't have been any disruption to speak of.

Joe

01-27-2009, 05:54 AM

that's essentially the basis of my argument. I reported thinking it WAS against policy, if it was I was ignored. Tried several times again to talk to the guy, then drug him away because my character was so annoyed with him.

Or if it was and they were checking, you just stuck your ass right in the way of anyone getting in trouble for your report? :)

tyrant-201

01-27-2009, 05:56 AM

You will be missed...when is your stuff going on the market?

haha. Not selling anything. That would require me logging in and reading policy ;)

Nah, I don't have a problem with everyone. I'm a nice guy. Just fed up with certain aspects of the game.

phantasm

01-27-2009, 05:56 AM

Or if it was and they were checking, you just stuck your ass right in the way of anyone getting in trouble for your report? :)

exactly!

tyrant-201

01-27-2009, 05:56 AM

Or if it was and they were checking, you just stuck your ass right in the way of anyone getting in trouble for your report? :)

Good point. Quite a bit of time elapsed in this whole situation, though. I'm doubting it but that's always a possibility.

Joe

01-27-2009, 06:00 AM

:rofl:
gb2 moderating official forums.

phantasm

01-27-2009, 06:01 AM

Good point. Quite a bit of time elapsed in this whole situation, though. I'm doubting it but that's always a possibility.

Only Emeradan knows the truth, and he's not going to tell you.

tyrant-201

01-27-2009, 06:02 AM

Only Emeradan knows the truth, and he's not going to tell you.

:rofl:

Solkern

01-27-2009, 06:19 AM

I've played with Telare, he's good people.

thefarmer

01-27-2009, 06:49 AM

I thought Davinche or Davinci were one of your character's names. I'm well aware they're two separate people.

Satisfy you?

Just further proof to me that you're an idiot.

tyrant-201

01-27-2009, 07:10 AM

Just further proof to me that you're an idiot.

Mmkay. I'll let you know when I'm concerned about what you think of me.

Kyra231

01-27-2009, 08:32 AM

It means you're unoriginal. Can't come up with your own shit. Sorry I have to spell that out for you.

Why didn't you just squelch him in the first place? Not the ideal resolution but then the singing wouldn't be so annoying.

Fallen

01-27-2009, 08:38 AM

If scripting constantly in a public place (AKA drone characters) is against policy, I suppose the best way to deal with the problem is to make a habit of reporting the guy whenever you're trying to have a conversation and his script is firing off. Not the most ideal of situations, but one that is most likely to get results. Request that anyone else that rests there and finds the situation annoying do the same. As Drew2's situation proves, if enough people bitch they will figure out a way to give you all free handjobs!

Other than that, you can always stalk and fog. Ensure you make an attempt at roleplay each time before doing so. Better than killing him. Scripters don't usually like GM attention on their characters, positive or negative. You don't make a game out of it. Just do it once, and if he runs right back, do it the next time you're there for an extended rest. Eventually he will tire of being moved.

Suppa Hobbit Mage

01-27-2009, 08:50 AM

One warning is just that, a warning. Take it as a lesson that you should respect policy and they (Emeredan) was doing exactly what he was supposed too... you reported, he started watching to see what was going on. Then you escalated it and he did his job.

In the future, report and leave it be. Or assist and get it documented. Don't cry when you put the spotlight on yourself by reporting THEN attempting to kill him. The only criticism I have for E is that he could have done a quick send to you saying he was checking it out.

E can be heavy handed I'll admit, but I don't think he did anything wrong here.

Fallen

01-27-2009, 09:00 AM

Xaerve

01-27-2009, 09:54 AM

SHM is right on one account. Either do one or the other. Take matters into your own hands and hope the GMs aren't watching, or leave it entirely in theirs. You don't want to do one immediately after the other.

Agreed, this is why you got fucked over. You can't have your cake and eat it too in Gemstone, pal! ;)

Emeredan is still a cock sucker.

NocturnalRob

01-27-2009, 10:06 AM

I named my character after a delicious, delicious beer:

http://www.sevenpack.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/VictoryHopDevil.jpg

CrystalTears

01-27-2009, 10:12 AM

Not crying. If you don't agree with me that's perfectly fine. Your deal. I get that the whole deal here is to try and get me riled up, but I'm just stating my opinion. Take it or leave it. I'm sure a lot of other people are quite tired of similar things. And I'm sure a lot of you still play the game and get a lot of enjoyment out of it. That's your bag. I'm not particularly happy with the game or the people that run it. So I'm quitting.
Oh c'mon. The main reason people post their departure from the game here is so that they can get praises or high-fives because of it. The truth is, most times than not, people who quit because they've been punished usually deserved it. So you won't get much sympathy here for it.

I think it's pretty impressive when people come here complaining about Emeradan and Andraste, people who are widely disliked, and we end up agreeing with their decision. That's a self-pwn right there.

TheWitch

01-27-2009, 10:41 AM

Your way or the highway, Telare, hmmm?

It's already been said but had you just reported and then oh, I don't know, moved to one of the 145,402,489 other rooms in the game...

E, who is an ass, would have had time to do his job.

Don't kid yourself into thinking that:
You are the only person reporting something stupid at any given time.
The GM is just sitting there waiting with anticipation for you to do so.
Your issue is as screamingly, urgently important as you think it is.

You want the rules enforced, you need to play by them too.

Sorry to see you go, but you really did create this problem yourself.

Ignot

01-27-2009, 11:16 AM

Fallen

01-27-2009, 11:18 AM

I think people should be allowed to afk script as much as they want. They are paying for it just like anyone else. Is it really a big deal that the character is singing to some gems? I can see some AFK scripting being a problem, like AFK script hunting, but singing to gems? Gimme a break. That screen scroll crybaby shit gets old, L2READ.

I wouldn't have a problem with it as so long as they did it away from everyone else. Go to a table and script your ass off for all I care. Just don't do it on a supernode.

SolitareConfinement

01-27-2009, 12:08 PM

I wouldn't have a problem with it as so long as they did it away from everyone else. Go to a table and script your ass off for all I care. Just don't do it on a supernode.

agreed. wanna script 4839484943984 arrows? fine go to a private home/table or some node off in the middle of no where. its not that hard. I've managed to AFK fletch countless characters from rank 1 to 500 doing this without a single send/warning or check.

Izzy

01-27-2009, 12:43 PM

I wouldn't have a problem with it as so long as they did it away from everyone else. Go to a table and script your ass off for all I care. Just don't do it on a supernode.

Pretty much how I feel. WTF do I care if XXX scripts all day every day singing/fletching/forging? He/she levels faster/gets richer than me? Good for them. So long as it doesn't disrupt me.

Script hunting is where it gets a little iffy IMO. Levels 1-20 are boring as ever-loving fuck, and if I didn't script hunt rats/mants/etc I'd lose my mind (no, I don't do it afk, but I'm generally about as AFK as I can be without actually leaving the keyboard). After that level range, afk scripting is bad mojo. My standards are fairly arbitrary, I suppose, but meh. Just my 2cents.

Fallen

01-27-2009, 12:48 PM

Pretty much how I feel. WTF do I care if XXX scripts all day every day singing/fletching/forging? He/she levels faster/gets richer than me? Good for them. So long as it doesn't disrupt me.

Script hunting is where it gets a little iffy IMO. Levels 1-20 are boring as ever-loving fuck, and if I didn't script hunt rats/mants/etc I'd lose my mind (no, I don't do it afk, but I'm generally about as AFK as I can be without actually leaving the keyboard). After that level range, afk scripting is bad mojo. My standards are fairly arbitrary, I suppose, but meh. Just my 2cents.

I don't support script hunting. Again, not because I care someone is going to get 4598340593459083405834905 experience a day, but because it could disrupt someone else hunting, and it is super annoying to have some ass-hat running around at the speed of light killing everything. Also, poorly written scripts will lead to poaching, casting of AOE spells at people, etc.

Allereli

01-27-2009, 12:52 PM

My character can't go to many quiet places in Illistim being that he's dark elven.

there's another supernode SE, W from the fountain that is almost never used. I don't support the mass purifying in public, but there are other ways to handle it if it bothers you that much.

DaCapn

01-27-2009, 01:01 PM

I don't know that I've ever seen rampant and irritating purification in public. I imagine it would be irritating. I know those fletchers at major resting spots are whether or not they're AFK.

A lot of other people have already said this but:
It's pretty dumb to report someone for violating policy then violate policy right there. In all likelihood, Emeradan was testing him for AFK scripting and you interrupted him. If you were seeing no reaction out of the scripter, chances are he was failing the test too.

DaCapn

01-27-2009, 01:12 PM

I don't support script hunting. Again, not because I care someone is going to get 4598340593459083405834905 experience a day, but because it could disrupt someone else hunting, and it is super annoying to have some ass-hat running around at the speed of light killing everything. Also, poorly written scripts will lead to poaching, casting of AOE spells at people, etc.

I'm fine with script hunting (and I do it). I guess that presumes that the person takes precautions to be courteous which is absurdly easy:

- Match on "disk" and "also here" to move to the next room.
- Don't cast AOE spells (and if you do, match on "disk" and "also here" to NOT cast)

I find that I can hammer through an area with macros faster than a script could dwell and match without piling up commands and tripping over itself. That being said, my hunting scripts move slowly because it's easier to manage that way. It dwells for a little while when someone else is in the room with a creature and I've left it that way. I've been able to pause/drag/unstun people before because of that delay.

I don't think I encounter a lot of script hunters, are most people pretty discourteous?

Khariz

01-27-2009, 01:16 PM

I have to echo some of the other posts here:

Telare, the only real problem I saw is that BOTH you tried to get the GMs involved AND subsequently took matters into your own hand. Pick one or the other.

Generally speaking, I think that if you kill someone in town, the Justice System should handle it, and GMs will normally stay out of it. I think there was an element of spite by Emeradan going on there, and perhaps justifiably so. He was looking into a situation for you, maybe even script testing that bastard, and then you go and drag the guy off and kill him.

I dunno. I can almost guarantee you wouldn't have seen the inside of the consultation lounge had you not tried to do both.

Fallen

01-27-2009, 01:19 PM

I'm fine with script hunting (and I do it). I guess that presumes that the person takes precautions to be courteous which is absurdly easy:

- Match on "disk" and "also here" to move to the next room.
- Don't cast AOE spells (and if you do, match on "disk" and "also here" to NOT cast)

I find that I can hammer through an area with macros faster than a script could dwell and match without piling up commands and tripping over itself. That being said, my hunting scripts move slowly because it's easier to manage that way. It dwells for a little while when someone else is in the room with a creature and I've left it that way. I've been able to pause/drag/unstun people before because of that delay.

I don't think I encounter a lot of script hunters, are most people pretty discourteous?

I've run into some pretty shitty scripters in OTF. Naseer was running a crapticular one for quite a while.

Drunken Durfin

01-27-2009, 01:57 PM

There are much more fun/embarrassing things you can do to AFK scripters than kill them. Especially if they are dumb enough to leave their group set to Open while they are singing in public.

Don't get mad, get silly.

Durfin turns to face AFKScripter

Durfin asks, "What was that?"

Durfin listens to AFKScripter

Durfin nods

Speaking to AFKScripter, Durfin says "Okay, but this is the last time, freak."

Durfin grins ear to ear

Durfin smiles as he lifts his kilt and pees on AFKScripter

NocturnalRob

01-27-2009, 01:58 PM

I said I was only gonna do that one to thirteen more times!!

Stanley Burrell

01-27-2009, 05:01 PM

I'm not going to read policy. I'd rather cancel my account and get on with the more important things I ought to be doing anyway. I really had no opinion Emeradan before he started fucking with me in the game. This wasn't an isolated occasion.

If this reasoning of yours, which is your opinion (I can't disagree with what you know is fact) was the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back, so be it. But from what I recall, reading policy is probably the least tedious activity in all of Glorious Nation of GemStone IV.

Sincerely,

- He who read policy in 1999

ZeP

01-27-2009, 05:03 PM

To the OP, the problem is you don't know if they script checked him and if he responded. They won't tell you either. A character could, for IC or OOC reasons, choose not to respond to players checking them. They just have to respond to the GM.

So he may or may have not been afk but they know for sure that you broke the CvC rules. If he responded to their check then what else can they do? They can check him again later, or flag him on some sort of list, and you don't know if they did that or not.

In your defense all I can say is maybe they could have sent you a [Send] that they will look into it.

TheWitch

01-27-2009, 05:24 PM

Truth, Zep.

I forgot to include that before, since I was at work and my psychotic boss was freaking about NOTHING again. Where's the border tape?!?!111!!

Who the *^$*&% uses border tape in 2009? We do! Go us.

Tea & Strumpets

01-27-2009, 05:36 PM

tyrant-201

01-27-2009, 06:02 PM

I forget who the OP is, but he can't really complain. What do you expect when you ask a GM to monitor a situation (although I'm sure that's not how you phrased the request), and then proceed to decide that you are going to enforce the AFK scripting policy by killing the person you REPORTed?

It's almost like you requested for a GM to come and watch you break POLICY. The only thing I can say in your defense, is that no one knows what policy is and when or if they'll choose to enforce any of it.

For example, they are aware of people breaking policy every day (selling silvers/items/characters for cash), but I'm not aware of any time they've ever enforced it.

Well, like I said. This all didn't occur in a short amount of time. Quite a bit of time elapsed from my reporting the situation to my dragging him away and killing the character.

I can agree it was stupid to report him and then break policy. I hadn't thought anything was being done about it due to the time of day it was (late evening) and amount of time elapsed.

Stretch

01-27-2009, 06:18 PM

I had purifying / fletching / singing / illusions stuff all squelched. It made watching text fly by less painful.

The key is to make it not person specific, then all asshats who do this shit in public don't impact you.

Tea & Strumpets

01-27-2009, 06:24 PM

Well, like I said. This all didn't occur in a short amount of time. Quite a bit of time elapsed from my reporting the situation to my dragging him away and killing the character.

I can agree it was stupid to report him and then break policy. I hadn't thought anything was being done about it due to the time of day it was (late evening) and amount of time elapsed.

I would just take it as a lesson learned and read policy if you still feel like playing. Plus, your story blew compared to when I had to read policy.

Some guy was selling a spidersilk satchel on the amulet with a minimum bid of 1 coin. Long story short, I won the bidding and bought the satchel for 25k. OR SO I THOUGHT! The guy I bought it from sent me a thought:

BADGUY: I'm not selling it for less than 100k
Me: Then why did you not put that as your minimum bid, good sir?
BADGUY: You FAIRY.

Well of course, I couldn't let that stand, so when I saw the guy the next day in Town Square Central, I confronted him about it. BADGUY was AFK, so I decided to drag him to Castle Varunar (you only dragged him one room you sissy). When he got back from being AFK, he demanded that I take him back to the Landing, and I said that I wouldn't until he apologized. He said that I better, or I'd be sorry (I'd guess this is when he was REPORTing).

Then one of his friends showed up, some lvl 100ish wizard named Alex, and e-waved, call winded, and put me to sleep. Then Kennesaw pulled me into the consultation lounge and told me to read policy. I was in an unreceptive mood, and ended up getting locked out for 30 days for disruptive behavior.

I still think Kennesaw was an arrogant dickcheese on a power trip, but it was probably a good experience for me since it taught me a lot about POLICY.

TheWitch

01-27-2009, 07:40 PM

Well, like I said. This all didn't occur in a short amount of time. Quite a bit of time elapsed from my reporting the situation to my dragging him away and killing the character.

I can agree it was stupid to report him and then break policy. I hadn't thought anything was being done about it due to the time of day it was (late evening) and amount of time elapsed.

You don't know nothing occured.
They will never tell you.
Why?
Because if they did, everyone with a complaint that was informed of the resolution would bitch and moan that the person wasn't punished enough!!11!

He could have tested the scripter, and the scripter was not afk.
He may have tested him repeatedly, trying to catch him afk.
He may have been having a long, involved conversation with the guy via send telling him what an annoying git he was being by scripting repetative annoying actions in a public place and that he was on the verge of disruptive activity violation - but if he wasn't afk, that's all he was doing. Being annoying.

And none of that is any of your goddamn business, nor is it encumbant upon Emeradan to respond to you, much less in a manner timely enough to suit you. You do not run this game, nor is it run to suit you and only you, 100% of the time. Scripting, while at the keyboard is not a policy violation.

You blew it. Own it.

Fallen

01-27-2009, 07:53 PM

You blew it. Own it.

.

I can agree it was stupid to report him and then break policy.

LMingrone

01-27-2009, 07:56 PM

I've had my problems with Emeredan, but he's pretty fair in most cases. And I've been banned numerous times, so I'm not one to preach. I honestly wish GS had no rules when it comes to PVP, but we do play in a ruleset.

Your other option is to cast a mass effect spell by "accident". Or start spelling them up and mess up one of the numbers on one of the casts. That excuse usually works.

Or just ignore annoying people and don't bother wasting your time. <---my choice

tyrant-201

01-27-2009, 11:26 PM

.

:club:

Fallen

01-27-2009, 11:29 PM

:club:

You have to put something, can't make a text with just quotes.

Ignot

01-27-2009, 11:32 PM

You have to put something, can't make a text with just quotes.

.

Back

01-27-2009, 11:34 PM

tyrant-201

01-27-2009, 11:41 PM

You have to put something, can't make a text with just quotes.

That was more meant for her than you.

Ashlander

01-28-2009, 02:00 AM

I would just take it as a lesson learned and read policy if you still feel like playing. Plus, your story blew compared to when I had to read policy.

Some guy was selling a spidersilk satchel on the amulet with a minimum bid of 1 coin. Long story short, I won the bidding and bought the satchel for 25k. OR SO I THOUGHT! The guy I bought it from sent me a thought:

BADGUY: I'm not selling it for less than 100k
Me: Then why did you not put that as your minimum bid, good sir?
BADGUY: You FAIRY.

Well of course, I couldn't let that stand, so when I saw the guy the next day in Town Square Central, I confronted him about it. BADGUY was AFK, so I decided to drag him to Castle Varunar (you only dragged him one room you sissy). When he got back from being AFK, he demanded that I take him back to the Landing, and I said that I wouldn't until he apologized. He said that I better, or I'd be sorry (I'd guess this is when he was REPORTing).

Then one of his friends showed up, some lvl 100ish wizard named Alex, and e-waved, call winded, and put me to sleep. Then Kennesaw pulled me into the consultation lounge and told me to read policy. I was in an unreceptive mood, and ended up getting locked out for 30 days for disruptive behavior.

I still think Kennesaw was an arrogant dickcheese on a power trip, but it was probably a good experience for me since it taught me a lot about POLICY.

Wait so the guy had a third party involved and YOU got in trouble for it? One of these days I should probably read the policy myself...

radamanthys

01-28-2009, 02:24 AM

Drinking is bad.

TheWitch

01-28-2009, 08:30 AM

:club:

If you own it, then stop saying "nothing happened" or "nothing happened fast enough" like that's justification. Because it's not.

That's all I'm saying.

Frankly, Emeradan is an asshat of the highest order but it just gets on my nerves when people bust on game staff and then get pissy when they're caught up in their own nonsense, when they have no real clue what goes on behind the scenes.

Tea & Strumpets

01-28-2009, 09:39 AM

Wait so the guy had a third party involved and YOU got in trouble for it? One of these days I should probably read the policy myself...

Yar. I'm sure there are details I've forgotten, but I'm not intentionally leaving anything out.

I'm sure the reason for the lockout was for arguing with Kennesaw in the consultation lounge. Do not cross him.

g++

01-28-2009, 10:12 AM

I still think Kennesaw was an arrogant dickcheese on a power trip, but it was probably a good experience for me since it taught me a lot about POLICY.

Wow...only gemstone could brain wash people like this.

tyrant-201

01-28-2009, 04:09 PM

If you own it, then stop saying "nothing happened" or "nothing happened fast enough" like that's justification. Because it's not.

That's all I'm saying.

Frankly, Emeradan is an asshat of the highest order but it just gets on my nerves when people bust on game staff and then get pissy when they're caught up in their own nonsense, when they have no real clue what goes on behind the scenes.

I'm pretty much over it by now. You should be, too.

CrystalTears

01-28-2009, 04:10 PM

I'm pretty much over it by now. You should be, too.
Nah. You'll be mocked about this for years.

The PC never forgets.

tyrant-201

01-28-2009, 04:55 PM

Nah. You'll be mocked about this for years.

The PC never forgets.

This is mockery?

I'm pretty sure being "mocked" by a few select idiots on PC is pretty low on my list of "Things I should give a fuck about"

I like a lot of people here. I'm friends with a lot of people here. Not really that big of an incident to carry on about it for years.

CrystalTears

01-28-2009, 04:59 PM

There have been far less dramatic incidences that are still mocked to this day.

tyrant-201

01-28-2009, 05:26 PM

There have been far less dramatic incidences that are still mocked to this day.

That just proves that some people have entirely too much time on their hands or entirely too little to remember.

phantasm

01-28-2009, 07:10 PM

Both actually. I even made this convenient memory aid.

http://img196.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-27037/loc1147/84190_Clipboard01_122_1147lo.jpg

Shari

01-29-2009, 12:18 AM

SHM is right on one account. Either do one or the other. Take matters into your own hands and hope the GMs aren't watching, or leave it entirely in theirs. You don't want to do one immediately after the other.

:yeahthat:

Emeredan is still a cock sucker.

:yeahthat: too

I understand where you're coming from on the RP aspect too. To me it appears that unless there's a festival going on everyone is busy powerhunting and resting afk to gain more silver/levels before the next festival hits, wherein everyone RPs their ass off then.

Who knows how things will pan out. I myself am more interested in my recent stint of figuring out how to sew so I've hardly logged either of my chars in.

DCSL

01-29-2009, 01:37 AM

How depressing.

tyrant-201

01-29-2009, 03:38 AM

How depressing.

ILU2

Stanley Burrell

01-29-2009, 10:53 AM

DCSL

01-29-2009, 12:44 PM

ILU2

Aww. I was mostly serious too! It IS depressing how consistent roleplayers are getting discouraged enough to leave. Even more depressing that they're getting frustrated by the very people who are supposed to be working for them.

CrystalTears

01-29-2009, 12:49 PM

Perhaps consistent roleplayers should be better role models of how to behave according to policy, regardless of how stupid policies may be.

Rocktar

01-29-2009, 01:42 PM

CrystalTears

01-29-2009, 01:44 PM

Perhaps, if so many people disagree with policies, the policies should change. Just like in poltics, even if the change is idiotic, if enough people want it, it happens. Example: our last Presidential election.
It's easier to get a new President than is it to get fair policy changes in Gemstone. It's not for lack of trying.

ViridianAsp

01-29-2009, 03:09 PM

Aww. I was mostly serious too! It IS depressing how consistent roleplayers are getting discouraged enough to leave. Even more depressing that they're getting frustrated by the very people who are supposed to be working for them.

QFT, I'm sad to see Telare go. At the same time if this guy was causing a problem and someone reports it. It IS nice when the GM gives you a send that they are checking into it.

I don't believe enough of the staff (Not all of the staff) care about the customer populace in the game and it is driving players away, on top of other various factors.

tyrant-201

01-29-2009, 04:28 PM

Perhaps consistent roleplayers should be better role models of how to behave according to policy, regardless of how stupid policies may be.

Yeah. Because being a "role model" in a fantasy game is all important in life. Telare isn't a nice character. I never made him to be that way. Not every character can be a "role model" according to policy, nor do I think they ought to be. That being said, I have shown an incredible amount of restraint in the past in these certain situations. There were plenty of times that I chose the roleplay-a-conflict route, rather than doing this. You've made it quite clear you take Simu's policy pretty seriously. I've made it quite clear I have a distaste for it. How did I remedy that? By quitting the game.

Yeah it is sad what has happened to the game over the past couple years. For quite awhile we had a promising amount of roleplay with the Nalfein group and several other organizations.

Whether or not people think I was right to have Telare kill the dude, I don't care. Was it stupid to report him and then kill him? Yeah. I've said that numerous times. And I'll continue to say it. Do I feel it was wrong? No.

tyrant-201

01-29-2009, 04:29 PM

CrystalTears

01-29-2009, 04:37 PM

Yeah. Because being a "role model" in a fantasy game is all important in life. Telare isn't a nice character. I never made him to be that way. Not every character can be a "role model" according to policy, nor do I think they ought to be.I'm speaking of the player being the role model of how to behave in a game. You are not Telare, and I could really care less what kind of character he is. The fact that YOU felt it necessary to take matters into your own hands by violating policy because someone else was violating policy just speaks about YOU, not your character. Learn to separate the two.
You've made it quite clear you take Simu's policy pretty seriously.I have?

Perhaps consistent roleplayers should be better role models of how to behave according to policy, regardless of how stupid policies may be.There are still rules you have to follow, which you agreed to in order to play. You're not exempt by any means.

It IS unfortunate that staff isn't more proactive about keeping the better players and letting the bad ones continue to do wrong. I also find it unfortunate that a warning and asking you to read policy was so horrendous of an act that you felt the need to quit.

But hey, good for you for standing up for yourself and quitting a game you don't like to play.

tyrant-201

01-29-2009, 04:45 PM

I'm speaking of the player being the role model of how to behave in a game. You are not Telare, and I could really care less what kind of character he is. The fact that YOU felt it necessary to take matters into your own hands by violating policy because someone else was violating policy just speaks about YOU, not your character. Learn to separate the two.
There are still rules you have to follow, which you agreed to in order to play. You're not exempt by any means.

It IS unfortunate that staff isn't more proactive about keeping the better players and letting the bad ones continue to do wrong. I also find it unfortunate that a warning and asking you to read policy was so horrendous of an act that you felt the need to quit.

But hey, good for you for standing up for yourself and quitting a game you don't like to play.

I'm quite aware -I- am not Telare. But we can apply the same logic. Why should I give a fuck about being a role model to other players? This isn't an issue of morality or ethics. Its a fucking game. Tell me who's taking it too seriously?

Never claimed to be exempt. I claimed not to agree with policy in many instances. Nowhere in this thread will you find that I've claimed to be exempt. Learn to read.

No, what I disagreed with was not being able to state my piece. His job is to enforce policy, fine. I would've liked to discuss -why- I had broken policy. My quitting, as I've said numerous times, is due to a larger amount of circumstances than just this incident. This incident just highlighted how little respect I had for the staff that remained.

I'm glad you care so much to go back and forth with me on this. Good luck in being a good "role-model" for all those other players ;)

Methais

01-29-2009, 04:47 PM

I don't think killing him was particularly wrong for the inconvenience and nuisance he's caused people at that location for several months. I recognize its against policy and refuse to read the policy. Simple as that. I would've liked to have had a discussion before the warning as issued, but it is what it is.

I hate Emeradan as much as the next sane, reasonable, and rational person, but...

1. You killed him for an OOC reason (screen scroll).

2. You knew it was against policy, however gay policy may be.

3. You really have no room to complain.

It's well known that Emeradan and Andraste both salivate at the thought of catching someone breaking policy so they can pull them to the lounge and go all internet tough guy on them. If you're going to kill some retard that's being annoying, especially after REPORTing (you seriously couldn't figure out why you were being watched after sending a REPORT?), create a situation where the other person will put themself in a position to be killed within policy.

It will not only make you feel better when you kill him, but it will ruin Emeradan and Andraste's whole day, which will make you feel even better.

tyrant-201

01-29-2009, 04:53 PM

I hate Emeradan as much as the next sane, reasonable, and rational person, but...

1. You killed him for an OOC reason (screen scroll).

Really? A bard standing around singing the same old song, over and over, month after month.. is an OOC reason?

2. You knew it was against policy, however gay policy may be.

It boggles me that people have so much respect for "policy" as if its the golden rule. I played the game despite disagreeing with aspects of the policy. Policy wasn't the sole reason I quit.

3. You really have no room to complain.

It's well known that Emeradan and Andraste both salivate at the thought of catching someone breaking policy so they can pull them to the lounge and go all internet tough guy on them. If you're going to kill some retard that's being annoying, especially after REPORTing (you seriously couldn't figure out why you were being watched after sending a REPORT?), create a situation where the other person will put themself in a position to be killed within policy.

It will not only make you feel better when you kill him, but it will ruin Emeradan and Andraste's whole day, which will make you feel even better.

I agree with the last one. As I've said numerous times. It was stupid to report and then kill him. I'm feeling like a broken record here.

Stanley Burrell

01-29-2009, 04:54 PM

I hate Emeradan as much as the next sane, reasonable, and rational person, but...

1. You killed him for an OOC reason (screen scroll).

2. You knew it was against policy, however gay policy may be.

3. You really have no room to complain.

4. You're being a flagrant homo about the entire incident and proving it every step of the way.

It's well known that Emeradan and Andraste both salivate at the thought of catching someone breaking policy so they can pull them to the lounge and go all internet tough guy on them. If you're going to kill some retard that's being annoying, especially after REPORTing (you seriously couldn't figure out why you were being watched after sending a REPORT?), create a situation where the other person will put themself in a position to be killed within policy.

It will not only make you feel better when you kill him, but it will ruin Emeradan and Andraste's whole day, which will make you feel even better.

:yeahthat:

tyrant-201

01-29-2009, 04:59 PM

:yeahthat:

Thanks!

Methais

01-29-2009, 05:02 PM

Really? A bard standing around singing the same old song, over and over, month after month.. is an OOC reason?

Let me direct you to:

I reported asking could someone please do something about the nuisance the "screen noise" the gem-singing drone was making. My report went ignored. Yet when I pulled him southeastward to kill him, I instantly got pulled by Emeradan.

So yes, it's an OOC reason.

It boggles me that people have so much respect for "policy" as if its the golden rule. I played the game despite disagreeing with aspects of the policy. Policy wasn't the sole reason I quit.

I think most of the game's policies are stupid and retarded and take cocks up its ass. But the bottom line is if you don't follow them, you'll have to deal with analcunts like Emeradan and Andraste. They both have a severe case of rookie cop syndrome, despite how long they've been around for, and will jump at any and every chance they can to reprimand someone for anything they possibly can.

I'm sure they both live very sad lives outside of GS, so take comfort in that if nothing else.

tyrant-201

01-29-2009, 05:09 PM

Let me direct you to:

So yes, it's an OOC reason.

I think most of the game's policies are stupid and retarded and take cocks up its ass. But the bottom line is if you don't follow them, you'll have to deal with analcunts like Emeradan and Andraste. They both have a severe case of rookie cop syndrome, despite how long they've been around for, and will jump at any and every chance they can to reprimand someone for anything they possibly can.

I'm sure they both live very sad lives outside of GS, so take comfort in that if nothing else.

I'm sure you all don't expect me to make a post from Telare's point of view. There are certain instances where an annoyance to a player can be an annoyance to a character. It definitely would be in this situation.

You'd think Simu would take the hint and can their asses after so long and so many people expressing their distaste. I'm aware of the consequences of breaking policy. I just chose not to partake in the "punishment" this time and save myself 40 bucks a month. Not to mention hours of wasted time in front of the computer.

I'm sure I'll be around here to get an update on what's going on. It's just not worth it anymore, the amount of B.S. (policy aside) you have to deal with in playing the game.

Methais

01-29-2009, 05:16 PM

I'm sure you all don't expect me to make a post from Telare's point of view. There are certain instances where an annoyance to a player can be an annoyance to a character. It definitely would be in this situation.

Maybe, but screen scroll is an OOC annoyance.

Fallen

01-29-2009, 05:16 PM

Just say, "Fuck it", read the policy and move on.

Fallen

01-29-2009, 05:18 PM

Maybe, but screen scroll is an OOC annoyance.

Depending on the actions which are creating the scroll, it can be an IC annoyance as well.

Methais

01-29-2009, 05:22 PM

Depending on the actions which are creating the scroll, it can be an IC annoyance as well.

In that case..

If you're going to kill some retard that's being annoying, especially after REPORTing, create a situation where the other person will put themself in a position to be killed within policy.

It will not only make you feel better when you kill him, but it will ruin Emeradan and Andraste's whole day, which will make you feel even better.

Don't get me wrong, I think their CvC/PvP policies are retarded and if it were up to me I'd just immolate anyone acting like an asswipe, IC or OOC.

I would also like to run slow drivers off the interstate and watch their vehicles flip over 184,000 times before bursting into flames, but the law says I can't :(

Some Rogue

01-29-2009, 05:24 PM

CAN I HAVE YOUR STUFF??

Fallen

01-29-2009, 05:25 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fallen http://forum.gsplayers.com/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?p=880011#post880011)
Depending on the actions which are creating the scroll, it can be an IC annoyance as well.

In that case..

Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
If you're going to kill some retard that's being annoying, especially after REPORTing, create a situation where the other person will put themself in a position to be killed within policy.

It will not only make you feel better when you kill him, but it will ruin Emeradan and Andraste's whole day, which will make you feel even better.

Agreed.

Stanley Burrell

01-29-2009, 06:43 PM

Thanks!

This time in caps:

DO FIVE RANKS OF AN ARTISAN GUILD SKILL AND THE TEDIUM OF TYPING POLICY # WILL SEEM LIKE INFITESSIMAL SHIT.

You're really quiting GS over this?

Tea & Strumpets

01-29-2009, 07:13 PM

f you're going to kill some retard that's being annoying, especially after REPORTing, create a situation where the other person will put themself in a position to be killed within policy.

It will not only make you feel better when you kill him, but it will ruin Emeradan and Andraste's whole day, which will make you feel even better.

I dunno, I think that's kind of a pussy way to deal with it. I don't think REPORTing and then changing your behavior accordingly once you think a GM is most definitely maybe probably watching is really any way to handle it.

Typical Methais behavior always relying on the REPORT verb as his reinforcements.

Joe

01-29-2009, 08:04 PM

This time in caps:

DO FIVE RANKS OF AN ARTISAN GUILD SKILL AND THE TEDIUM OF TYPING POLICY # WILL SEEM LIKE INFITESSIMAL SHIT.

You're really quiting GS over this?

It's called playing the martyr.:thinking:

thefarmer

01-29-2009, 08:10 PM

I'm pretty much over it by now. You should be, too.

For someone pretty much over it.. it's funny how you keep posting to defend your stupidity.

tyrant-201

01-31-2009, 03:09 AM

For someone pretty much over it.. it's funny how you keep posting to defend your stupidity.

Nothing wrong with logically discussing things. I've never taken you as someone privy to logical discussions, though. Not trying to say you're stupid, it's just that you are.

tyrant-201

01-31-2009, 03:11 AM

This time in caps:

DO FIVE RANKS OF AN ARTISAN GUILD SKILL AND THE TEDIUM OF TYPING POLICY # WILL SEEM LIKE INFITESSIMAL SHIT.

You're really quiting GS over this?

Retarded policy is one of the reasons I'm quitting. If you'd actually read the thread you'd see I've said several times its one of the various reasons.

tyrant-201

01-31-2009, 03:11 AM

CAN I HAVE YOUR STUFF??

Sure!

tyrant-201

01-31-2009, 03:12 AM

It's called playing the martyr.:thinking:

Ah yeah that's me. What exactly am I martyring here?

phantasm

01-31-2009, 03:13 AM

Can I have some stuff before him?

tyrant-201

01-31-2009, 03:31 AM

Can I have some stuff before him?

You gotta wait your turn in line my friend.

diethx

01-31-2009, 02:18 PM

Sure!

That is so fucked up I totally asked first.

edit: Err nevermind, it was the other dude who was pissed off and quitting the same day as you that I asked. The one who was being bothered all day with script checks.

thefarmer

01-31-2009, 05:03 PM

Nothing wrong with logically discussing things. I've never taken you as someone privy to logical discussions, though. Not trying to say you're stupid, it's just that you are.

Yes, your vastly greater intelligence has been put on display for all to see in this thread. I should be ashamed for questioning your sound logic and intellectual ability. Fuck the rules and the GMs that enforce them!

phantasm

01-31-2009, 05:49 PM

Can I have your gears yet?

Ignot

01-31-2009, 06:12 PM

Can I have your gears yet?

I bet he doesn't quit

Fallen

01-31-2009, 06:14 PM

I personally would rather he didn't. Emeradan gets under almost everyone's skin. He is a dick, even when he is in the right, and a poor example of a Customer Service representative. Honestly, I would just put the incident behind me and move on.

Mighty Nikkisaurus

01-31-2009, 06:18 PM

Can I have your gears yet?

I would get first crack at his gears, because I designed most of it.

Buuuut I hope it would never come to that.

Some Rogue

01-31-2009, 08:31 PM

I was told I could have it you assholes. BACK OFF.

Methais

01-31-2009, 09:58 PM

I dunno, I think that's kind of a pussy way to deal with it. I don't think REPORTing and then changing your behavior accordingly once you think a GM is most definitely maybe probably watching is really any way to handle it.

Typical Methais behavior always relying on the REPORT verb as his reinforcements.

Well typically REPORT wouldn't even be in the equation, but since he wanted to kill him after he reported, then that's the best he can really work with.

T&S needs perma-italics btw.

Stanley Burrell

01-31-2009, 10:41 PM

Retarded policy is one of the reasons I'm quitting. If you'd actually read the thread you'd see I've said several times its one of the various reasons.

I've been pulled into the Lounge for discrepancies before because I was being monitored when Kennesaw was doing his little tirades.

The GMs have better things to do than hold a personal vendetta against you, especially since I'm certain that you aren't Warclaidhm. There is no doubt that GS has become way more Carebear ever since WARN.

Man. I dunno. Do you plan on dropping any phat lewt? :saint:

Elvenlady

02-03-2009, 10:24 AM

Senglent

02-05-2009, 04:18 PM

I see a lot of complaining about his reasons. As he stated this was the straw that broke the camels back. Do you agree.....yes/maybe/no...who really cares?

Tyrant just wanted to blow off some steam, complain about crappy staff/policies, and say good-bye (least that's the way I took it).

So do some on staff not deserve to be there?.....Damn right.

Are they ever going to communicate back to you about reports or game issues?

Well honestly after talking it over with Sancrist (in charge of feedback, so he said) on an issue, I can say I hope no one ever has to deal with them/him.

You honestly want to know the real policy?

1) Platinum rule of GS the GM is always right.

2) Golden rule of GS Never Criticize policy or the way things are done.

3)Silver rule never criticize a GM on something they did or did not do.

If you follow those three simply rules you will have a great time in GSland, if like some (me included) you have issues with double standards or just suggest they give a short e-mail or send in game that they are looking into it (like others have previously said) and get shitty responses from staff....well...You quit and move onto other and less aggravating things, and occasionally check back in on PC to see if things have gotten better or progressively worse.

Ignot

02-05-2009, 06:02 PM

blah blah blah while I stare at avatar

can you post more?

Fallen

02-05-2009, 06:23 PM

I criticize GS constantly on the official boards. While every now and then I have posts pulled, I think I am free to speak my mind on Policy and any other issue and still enjoy my time IG. The trick to violating policy is not getting caught.

graysun

02-11-2009, 05:27 PM

Dearest Emeradan,

Thanks for the snarky response.

I think your post-pulling is a bunch of crap.

Have a nice day.

--- On Wed, 2/11/09, GS4-EMERADAN@play.net <GS4-EMERADAN@play.net> wrote:

From: GS4-EMERADAN@play.net <GS4-EMERADAN@play.net>
Subject: DRACLINA-VIVVID, your post has been hidden. Notification: Off topic
To: DRACLINA-VIVVID@play.net
Date: Wednesday, February 11, 2009, 12:36 PM

Dear DRACLINA-VIVVID,

I have removed the post copied below from the General Questions & Comments
topic for being off-topic.

Players were given the opportunity to email me if they wished to know why the
thread was closed. Posting is not emailing. ;)

If you have any questions about my action in removing your message, please
don't hesitate to email me so we can clarify the issue to your satisfaction.

Sincerely,

~
GM Emeradan
GS4-EMERADAN@PLAY.NET
Forums Manager
Bugs Manager
~
GemStone IV: One MMORPG to Rule Them All.
"Master of the Black Helicopters." -- BROWNA94
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Topic: General Questions & Comments
Msg#: 1628
Subject: Re: Recent events

>>This thread is closed. Feel free to email me if you wish to know
why.<<

How about summing up the rationale so we can all learn from it?

I haven't been a party to what transpired this week, but am disappointed to
see another instance of the post-pulling method of conflict resolution.

I understand this isn't the PC, and that player retention is a high
priority - but if players' posts are going to be censored, may we please at
least be given some constructive commentary about the reasoning behind it?
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Warriorbird

02-11-2009, 05:42 PM

It depends on the policy criticized. I got a request to leave GS and 'consider another Simutronics game' for one that I laid down at one point.

BriarFox

02-11-2009, 07:24 PM

Players were given the opportunity to email me if they wished to know why the thread was closed. Posting is not emailing. ;)

Christ on a mother-fucking crutch. Every time Emeradan uses one of his passive-aggressive smiley faces, I want to choke the shit out a baby.

DaCapn

02-11-2009, 10:14 PM

I didn't notice them until someone pointed them out here. Every post of his that I've read since then has had one without fail.

Senglent

02-11-2009, 11:07 PM

The best part of Emeradan if he quit or they actually fired him I would not be surprised to see at least 50 accounts reopen that month. With another 50 following that.

Just saying he tends to rub a lot the wrong way, Ahhh.... to be able to get off by being a deuchebag on a text based game.....makes you realize how good life really is for some people.

yesicj

02-11-2009, 11:47 PM

Christ on a mother-fucking crutch. Every time Emeradan uses one of his passive-aggressive smiley faces, I want to choke the shit out a baby.

There was a series in a webcomic (I want to say it was PvP, but I looked for a while and lost patience when I couldn't find it) about a guy who's almost positive that he's getting flamed, but every post ends with a smiley face. Drove him absolutely nuts. I think this went on for a little over a week's worth of comics. Good times.

ViridianAsp

02-12-2009, 03:39 AM

Christ on a mother-fucking crutch. Every time Emeradan uses one of his passive-aggressive smiley faces, I want to choke the shit out a baby.

But..But the smiley face is a way of ensuring his superior customer service and Mod skills. Which, of course is why SIMU keeps him around.

Avaya

02-14-2009, 09:33 PM

I wouldn't quit over this Telare. Not worth it. Just kill the guy again but don't report first next time :) (kidding). well sorta.

RevenantG

02-20-2009, 03:53 AM

GS is filled with a lot of suckups and corrupt GMs ( in my opinion), and a lot of people that like to continue with their little schemes that are against the policy..when questioned about it most of them just bring sand to the beach
I still enjoy the game but these things are irritating

Some Rogue

02-20-2009, 03:55 AM

Warriorbird

02-20-2009, 03:58 AM

Having seen behind the curtain 'corrupt GMs' isn't really much of an issue. Now assholes? They're a problem.

Legacyofpain

02-20-2009, 05:41 AM

good. What those of us who like these games but are tired of the bullshit really need is for more people to pull their subscriptions over asshole staff members who have unfortunately been given PR positions by the dumb grace of insanity that is simu...

Senglent

02-21-2009, 11:18 AM

I know of 6 people (not accounts, some having more then one account) that have quit for asshatery on the part of the GM's since the start of this year.

Don't see it doing much or Simu really caring, but thats has more to do with them not understanding how a companies PR people are supposed to work. Or the fact that they just don't care.

thefarmer

02-21-2009, 12:44 PM

Quitting doesn't make what you say more powerful, it shuts you up completely.

Warriorbird

02-21-2009, 02:19 PM

But then you can actually play games that are fun again...

Methais

02-22-2009, 06:40 PM

Quitting doesn't make what you say more powerful, it shuts you up completely.

So the alternative is to pay $15-40 a month to keep complaining?

A person's wallet usually speaks louder than their voice ever could.

The problem is Simu is too stupid to care. They're like the game company equivalent to Barney Frank.

thefarmer

02-22-2009, 07:27 PM

So the alternative is to pay $15-40 a month to keep complaining?

A person's wallet usually speaks louder than their voice ever could..

If we were talking about any other game, I'd agree. However I don't think any change was implemented because of people threatening to leave/left. Staff doesn't do to well with, "If you don't change this me and my friends are gonna leave" statements.

Sylvan Dreams

02-23-2009, 12:17 AM

If we were talking about any other game, I'd agree. However I don't think any change was implemented because of people threatening to leave/left. Staff doesn't do to well with, "If you don't change this me and my friends are gonna leave" statements.

I could be mistaken, but wasn't the initial presentation of the hard cap/soft cap issue reconsidered as a result of a huge poll on Virilneus' website?

Methais

02-23-2009, 05:35 PM

If we were talking about any other game, I'd agree. However I don't think any change was implemented because of people threatening to leave/left. Staff doesn't do to well with, "If you don't change this me and my friends are gonna leave" statements.

Had you quoted my entire post instead of just the first two lines, you wouldn't have needed to even make your post, because...

The problem is Simu is too stupid to care. They're like the game company equivalent to Barney Frank.

Pretty much = your post.