Day Without a Gay [Archive] - The Gemstone IV Players' Corner

Stunseed

12-10-2008, 05:16 PM

This got sent to me by one of my employees this morning, he's going to be participating.

http://www.daywithoutagay.org/

I hope you use it against him as a no-call, no-show. Or call his bluff and demand a doctor's note to return to work.

Tsa`ah

12-10-2008, 06:10 PM

How is it a no call no show if the guy he sent the link to knows he's going to participate?

Stunseed

12-10-2008, 06:20 PM

It's not a national holiday. No reasonable excuse = no call, no show.

I use this because I took off of work for Veteran's Day and was given the same BS.

Tsa`ah

12-10-2008, 06:25 PM

No call implies contact wasn't made. Contact was made. No show is self explanatory.

It's nothing more than an unexcused absence. How it's handled depends on the employer and/or State Law.

diethx

12-10-2008, 06:50 PM

I hate to agree with Tsa'ah, but yeah, no call means you didn't let them know you weren't gonna show up. It may not be an acceptable excuse to the bosses, but it's still not a no call.

The Ponzzz

12-10-2008, 06:58 PM

The places I've been employed, no call doesn't mean you made no contact, no call means you didn't go through the proper amount of time to take the day off. And that's generally 2 weeks notice. So, we'd still get the no call and the obvious no show if we just took a day off, even if we let them know a day or two in advance. That was both Kodak and the Newspaper I worked for.

diethx

12-10-2008, 06:58 PM

That's crazy, having to give 2 weeks notice for a day off. I never had to do that at any job.

The Ponzzz

12-10-2008, 07:24 PM

Yeah, I've always had to treat a leasure day off as a vacation day, which requires 2 weeks. I could call in "sick" but that's always risky.

Skeeter

12-10-2008, 07:26 PM

no call / no show is a generic term where I've worked also.

Sean of the Thread

12-10-2008, 08:02 PM

no call / no show in my experiences has been a generic tag used for an unexcused absence and usually terms for termination.

Stunseed

12-10-2008, 08:04 PM

no call / no show in my experiences has been a generic tag used for an unexcused absence and usually terms for termination.

Ding, ding, ding.

diethx

12-10-2008, 08:08 PM

Well then people are using it wrong. :P

I guess it depends on where you work. In my experience it's always meant exactly what it said, someone didn't call and didn't show, and it was a reason to fire them.

Stunseed

12-10-2008, 08:12 PM

< Or call his bluff and demand a doctor's note to return to work >

Basically, if they use the "I'm sick" reason, unexcused could be used to force someone into acquiring a doctor's note. Barring that, it's job abandonment. I've seen people get escorted out from it, it fucking sucks, but it's there.

diethx

12-10-2008, 08:14 PM

Can you imagine the uproar in the gay community if someone got fired over taking off for this event?

Stunseed

12-10-2008, 08:17 PM

10 people would kill for his job right now, anyways.

diethx

12-10-2008, 08:17 PM

True.

Kayse

12-10-2008, 08:24 PM

Can you imagine the uproar in the gay community if someone got fired over taking off for this event?

Could he technically try and sue for being fired over this reason? Turning it into "Oh, I got fired because I'm gay" or "They're discriminating against me because I attended this event."

Delirium

12-10-2008, 08:30 PM

I'd be curious where he volunteered at. If he actually went and volunteered somewhere I'd cut him some slack if possible.

diethx

12-10-2008, 08:37 PM

Could he technically try and sue for being fired over this reason? Turning it into "Oh, I got fired because I'm gay" or "They're discriminating against me because I attended this event."

I guess he could try. I dunno if it would fly. But if I were the employer I wouldn't even want that mess to begin with. I'd count it as an unpaid day off. Just my opinion.

Sean

12-10-2008, 09:18 PM

Essh you guys work in some uptight places. I work in a professional enviornment but I've never had to produce a note when I was sick or provide 2 weeks notice to take a day off.

CrystalTears

12-10-2008, 09:21 PM

Essh you guys work in some uptight places. I work in a professional enviornment but I've never had to produce a note when I was sick or provide 2 weeks notice to take a day off.Seriously. I just say I'll be out. If I'm going to be gone for at least a week I need to give some kind of lead time, like maybe a week or two to plan around the other department members.

But for a day? I call the morning of and leave a message on my boss' voicemail that I'll be out for the day.

Doctor notes were only necessary if you were out sick for more than a few days in a row.

Parkbandit

12-10-2008, 09:48 PM

10 people would kill for his job right now, anyways.

Exactly. Take the day off for all I care.. I'll just look at the 1000 applications sitting on my desk that won't take frivolous days off.

A REALLY stupid time to be calling off from work.

thefarmer

12-10-2008, 09:50 PM

Essh you guys work in some uptight places. I work in a professional enviornment but I've never had to produce a note when I was sick or provide 2 weeks notice to take a day off.

I've found it's easier to do that in professional/salary jobs than hourly.

Why that is, I have no idea.

Kayse

12-10-2008, 09:50 PM

At my last job I directed the evening newscasts and I had to give two weeks notice (supposedly) because it was hard to get a replacement at such short notice to fill in for me (only 3 people who knew how to do the job), which is why I never called off sick either. They were also very picky about who would cover for me since it was the prime shows and they wanted my replacement to make little to no errors.

Of course, when the morning show guy would call off the night before I was the only one who could fill in at 4am after working 3pm-midnight. Damn, that just reminded me how much I disliked that fucking job and why I quit.

I've never had to produce a doctor's note though. When I worked at Disney you had to show a note if you called in sick a certain amount of days. But what do you expect? Disney is evil.

Kuyuk

12-10-2008, 10:27 PM

no call no show = hit the road.

Kuyuk

12-10-2008, 10:28 PM

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At least they gave people a heads up they're gonna be toasted.

Kuyuk

12-10-2008, 10:29 PM

the US census is gonna report a record number of gay/lesbian layoff/firings in the month of december...

The Ponzzz

12-10-2008, 11:05 PM

Skeeter

12-10-2008, 11:25 PM

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e321/Bigboy9/3502x07.jpg

Sean

12-10-2008, 11:31 PM

See I found it easier to take time off when the pay for under 30k. Anything over 30k was tough. Sure I'm allowed extended lucnhes, coming in late or leaving early, but taking off time? I had to jump through loops!

Interesting. I make over 30k but I never take days off really. I took 2 weeks off this year to goto the Netherlands and I still have over a month in rolled over vacation days. That said I decided this week that I'm taking every friday off from now till Feb. and told my bosses starting this Friday I'm not coming in on Fridays anymore and they were fine with it.

The Ponzzz

12-10-2008, 11:33 PM

Haha, nice! My job at the Newspaper wouldn't allow us to roll vacation over to the new year. Whatever was left at the end of the year became a paycheck based on our salary.

Stretch

12-10-2008, 11:48 PM

That's f'ing retarded.

Jesus Christ, what moron thought up that idea?

Hulkein

12-11-2008, 12:01 AM

I took 2 weeks off this year to goto the Netherlands

You are so white.

Mighty Nikkisaurus

12-11-2008, 12:17 AM

no call no show = hit the road.

Heh, seriously, and no second chance.

If I'm contagious, I still have to call into work to talk about inventory and production lists for at least an hour or two. Pretty sure I'd get fired if I just didn't show up or called the morning of and left a message without making sure stuff is taken care of. They try to be understanding about people getting sick (and certainly don't want them touching the food) but shit won't get done if people don't plan in advance for days off.

Sean of the Thread

12-11-2008, 12:18 AM

That's f'ing retarded.

Jesus Christ, what moron thought up that idea?

My old job used to do that but I didn't mind since I never missed a day of work in 8 years. Just got two weeks worth of pay tacked on at the end of the year.

Gan

12-11-2008, 07:55 AM

No call/No show: 1st occurrence = written warning. 2nd occurrence = final written. 3rd occurrence = termination. 3 days in a row = job abandonment/termination.

sick days: must call in and leave message/speak with manager. Consistently sick on Mondays or Fridays = sick time abuse (verbal, written, final written, termination). Sick for more than 3 days in a row = clearance from physician to come back to work.

Vacation days: require approval from manager. No rollover of vacation days at years end.

Thats our company policy in a nutshell.

Sean of the Thread

12-11-2008, 09:26 AM

That's pretty much run of the mill in my experience.

DeV

12-11-2008, 10:07 AM

Essh you guys work in some uptight places. I work in a professional enviornment but I've never had to produce a note when I was sick or provide 2 weeks notice to take a day off.

No call implies contact wasn't made. Contact was made. No show is self explanatory.

It's nothing more than an unexcused absence. How it's handled depends on the employer and/or State Law.Agree x2

Methais

12-11-2008, 10:32 AM

The employers of these retards should just go all Vince McMahon on them and be like YOUUUU'RRRRREE FFFFFFIIIIIIRRRRRREEEEEDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00241/wwe_wwf_lilsboys_wr_241442a.jpg

Like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gn-nTLLf7m0

DeV

12-11-2008, 11:08 AM

The employers of these retards should just go all Vince McMahon on them and be like YOUUUU'RRRRREE FFFFFFIIIIIIRRRRRREEEEEDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111
Yeah, all three of them (the couple that started this and the one dumbass that answered the call).

Sean of the Thread

12-11-2008, 11:13 AM

I'm going to organize a straight strike day.

That'll teach the gays!

Amber

12-11-2008, 11:18 AM

If I don't go in, I call and leave a voice mail for the lab, and everyone there usually does the same. We get a huge amount of time off, 5 weeks vacation, four personal days, and 12 days sick leave, but with experiments always needing done, it's kind of tricky arranging time off without compromising them. Everything in the lab is about timing. For example, if I took today off, and didn't finish the experiment I've been working on this week, I'd have to start it again from scratch and it'd set me back three days.

Methais

12-11-2008, 11:21 AM

Yeah, all three of them (the couple that started this and the one dumbass that answered the call).

3 idiots getting fired > 0 idiots getting fired.

Fallen

12-11-2008, 11:37 AM

DeV

12-11-2008, 11:49 AM

3 idiots getting fired > 0 idiots getting fired.
Who can argue that.

Day without a gay was and is fucking stupid.

CrystalTears

12-11-2008, 11:50 AM

Methais

12-11-2008, 11:53 AM

It's just... why would you call attention to yourself that you're gay? No one needs to know about your sexual preferences. Why even make that known about yourself at work? It's none of their business.

BECAUTHE IT MAKESTH THEM FEEL THO THOOPER AND LIBERATED!!!!1

Or maybe it's because a lot of women are attention whores, and gay guys love acting like women.

I'm gonna start sporting STRAIGHT PRIDE shirts and see how long it takes before someone tries to sue me.

DeV

12-11-2008, 12:06 PM

It's just... why would you call attention to yourself that you're gay? No one needs to know about your sexual preferences. Why even make that known about yourself at work? It's none of their business.It was a poorly thought out idea. Scratch that, it was a fucking stupid idea. Consider the sheer number of people still in the closet, then you have those who are unprotected in the workforce and must do everything they can to not bring attention to their sexuality.

Let's not forget the progressive employers that offer full same-sex benefits and support. Why would one purposely disrupt business as usual for an employer that agrees with the general message. If this is the best we can come up with (I'm positive it is not), it’s no wonder amendments like prop 8 pass. The couple that thought this up didn't do nearly enough "thinking".

BECAUTHE IT MAKESTH THEM FEEL THO THOOPER AND LIBERATED!!!!1

Or maybe it's because a lot of women are attention whores, and gay guys love acting like women.

I'm gonna start sporting STRAIGHT PRIDE shirts and see how long it takes before someone tries to sue me.Straight Pride shits? It's been done. No one will care enough to sue you.

Methais

12-11-2008, 12:22 PM

Straight Pride shits?

I see what you did there.

It's been done. No one will care enough to sue you.

No matter what's going on, there's always someone, somewhere, that "cares" enough to sue you.

DeV

12-11-2008, 12:51 PM

I see what you did there.

No matter what's going on, there's always someone, somewhere, that "cares" enough to sue you.
Hahaha, oh the irony. I didn't mean to do what I did there, but I see it in all it's goatse like glory and it was completely unintentional.

That's true, about caring enough to sue. There have been a few lawsuits seeking to allow someone to wear anti-gay, gay, and straight pride shirts, but mainly targeted towards schools and not really a "I'm suing you for wearing that cotton straight pride shirt and breathing my gay air" kind of thing was what I was getting it.

Methais

12-11-2008, 12:54 PM

If I breathe enough gay air, someone will eventually sue me.

Sean of the Thread

12-11-2008, 01:05 PM

for fucks sake. The term "Gay Air" brought together a sick visual of goatse.cx queefing out his ass.

Thx guys.

TheEschaton

12-12-2008, 09:48 AM

I had more trouble getting days off when I was a dishwasher in high school than any legal job I've ever worked.

Mighty Nikkisaurus

12-12-2008, 09:57 AM

I had more trouble getting days off when I was a dishwasher in high school than any legal job I've ever worked.

It is a surprisingly vital job. At my last job we had a problem with having dishwashers not show up for work and it fucked up the entire night whenever it happened :/

TheEschaton

12-12-2008, 10:15 AM

yeah, cause then someone who doesn't like getting their hands dirty has to do the job.

I remember one Friday night, we had a surplus of waitresses and short one dishwasher, and they made this waitress dishwash. It was hilarious, or would have been, had I not been the other dishwasher trying to make up for her sheer incompetence (yes, even dishwashing requires some level of competence).