Have you ever...

[TheRoseLady]

wondered if you had a true sixth sense, or that you have some powers of intuition but they aren't honed into a workable talent?

There was this lady at work, I've "known" her for quite awhile. We didn't work in the same department but worked in collaborative areas. I passed by her cubicle daily, ran into her at the microwave etc. She was pretty reserved, so it wasn't like we were chummy.

Anyway, I'm a rather curious person and there was something about her that made me take notice of her. I can't really explain it, other than I work with 1,000 other people in a building and she stood out but not in an obvious way.

I came to work on Monday to an email announcing that she had died on Friday as a result of a car accident. I felt weird, of course sorry that another human being lost their life...but weird nonetheless, kind of like the fact that she stood out to me was some way of my sixth sense coming through. Not that I knew that she was going to die, nor anything close...but the awareness of her had to be for some purpose. Is it a sense of foreboding? Ever do something and as you're doing it, you get some internal voice telling you that you shouldn't - and it turns out that the voice was right?

It's very hard to put into words, and I'm sure that I sound like I've had one too many drinks..

Anyway, it's been rather surreal at work. Walking by her desk on Monday and seeing all her pictures and personal items sitting out there with a small floral arrangement and some stuffed dogs but the seat empty. Today, I walked by and they had removed her personal effects, her computer was still there.

Sad.

[Skeeter]

could be a 6th sense.

Also could be your brain doing revisionist history.

[Twitch]

I believe it falls under the category of hind sight is 20/20.

[Drew]

I use the force to open doors at the grocery store. Works every time.

[Tisket]

I used to think I had some weird power over the street lights. They'd flicker out as I passed in my car. Turns out it was just a cockeyed headlight triggering the sensor in the streetlight. I was disappointed.

[Sean of the Thread]

Lol that's golden.

[Tea & Strumpets]

Hansel: So I was repelling down Mt. Versuvius, when sudenly, I slipped, and I started to fall, I mean I'm about to die. Arrghhh argghh, (waving hands) I'll never forget the terror, but suddenly I said to myself, holy shit, Hansel, haven't you been smoking Paote for six straight days, and couldn't some of this maybe be in your mind?

Derek: And?

Hansel: It was! I was totally fine, I've never even been to Mt. Versuvius!

[CrystalTears]

LOL @ Dar w/Zoolander quote. :heart:

[Moist Happenings]

Well, TRL, you opened yourself up to this issue which is generally regarded in a negative light, and people look at you as if you're crazy, so kudos for that. I'll open it up too in an effort to take some of the crazy looks off you.

I am a firm believer in ESP in a lot of forms. I've run a Ganzfeld experiment personally, with shocking results.

My family's always had a knack for that sort of sixth sense thing, whatever you want to call it, myself included. It comes into play more than you realize in every day life.

Example (Yes, I'm sure skeptics can find a way to remain skeptical about this. Don't really care. Not like it's a science experiment):

My friend Snook and I were walking into the DMV. I drove, and left my top down in the parking lot. We were in the DMV for about 3 hours (welcome to Jersey). As we were walking out, Snook was saying that we should catch the Thunder game because we had time. I responded very matter of factly "Yeah we should, but I have to get the cat out of the car first.", to which Snook of course replied "Wha?". Now, I didn't think anything of it. It was normal conversation, and responding some random comment about a cat didn't strike me as odd until he responded weird. Anyway, 10 seconds later, we get to the car, I pick the cat up out of the back seat, and put it down on the ground.

This particular event I think was spurred by the fact that I had just recently gotten my car, and was thinking a lot about it. I find that if I'm focused on something sub-consciously, the sixth sense factor becomes much more prevalent.

In poker, for example. If I play the odds, the cards solely, I'll sit there and maybe grind a few dollars, maybe not. If I play the other people at the table, that's when I can make big money, on big, unexpected hands that the odds don't account for.

Sometimes I'll look at a 5 6 of spades (how I got my nickname), and say "That's the winning hand." and play it out all the way. (~900 dollar pre-turn pot on that hand by the way, 3 callers, $1/$2 table). Sometimes I'll look at rockets and say "That's a losing hand" and muck it pre-flop. Sometimes I just have "that feeling", and I've learned it's almost always right.

Anyway, say what you will about it. There's just too much out there to be coincidence.

[CrystalTears]

It's just intuition. It's not that big of a deal as I'm sure quite a few of us have experienced it. There's really no need to overanalyze it *coughsneffcoughs*, especially when you just had a "feeling" about someone and couldn't pinpoint it to anything in particular.

[Moist Happenings]

It's just intuition. It's not that big of a deal as I'm sure quite a few of us have experienced it. There's really no need to overanalyze it *coughsneffcoughs*, especially when you just had a "feeling" about someone and couldn't pinpoint it to anything in particular.

"Intuition" such as having a feeling about a co-worker that otherwise you normally wouldn't out of a thousand other co-workers, many believe is a form of ESP. Why did you have that feeling? Why did I know there was a cat in my car after having been out of view of it for hours along a major highway where stray cats don't generally roam?

Most people think ESP and think of two-bit psychics and that jackass on television who "contacts the other side". It just isn't like that. In reality, there's a large, growing scientific basis for the beliefs.

[Kayse]

"Intuition" such as having a feeling about a co-worker that otherwise you normally wouldn't out of a thousand other co-workers, many believe is a form of ESP. Why did you have that feeling? Why did I know there was a cat in my car after having been out of view of it for hours along a major highway where stray cats don't generally roam?

Most people think ESP and think of two-bit psychics and that jackass on television who "contacts the other side". It just isn't like that. In reality, there's a large, growing scientific basis for the beliefs.

Well what are you thoughts on this then:

There's" been times I've been in the car listening to the radio and I'll think to myself I wish I could hear this song" or "I bet this song is next" and the next song that plays IS that song.

I never thought it to be anything special or ESP. I've always just assumed it was a coincidence, luck, or I was listening to the radio station long enough to kinda figure out their programing schedule.

[Moist Happenings]

Well what are you thoughts on this then:

There's" been times I've been in the car listening to the radio and I'll think to myself I wish I could hear this song" or "I bet this song is next" and the next song that plays IS that song.

I never thought it to be anything special or ESP. I've always just assumed it was a coincidence, luck, or I was listening to the radio station long enough to kinda figure out their programing schedule.

Well, the problem with scientifically proving ESP is that a LOT of events can be and are coincidence. In the last forty or fifty years though, we've been coming up with a lot more ways to test it more reliably, and scientifically using instruments. I think that within the next hundred years we'll really be able to understand it more clearly as our technology advances.

[Mighty Nikkisaurus]

I don't really consider intuition to be the same thing as ESP.

IMO, people with really good intuition don't pick up on some magical essence or whatever. I really think it's more really good sub-conscious observational skills that some people's brains happen to be really good at putting together to form a bigger picture. I think that's partially why people who are sensitive to other's feelings tend to have "good intuition" regarding people.. because they pick up on really subtle nuances (sometimes without even realizing it fully) from and between people and add that in. People who are oblivious towards others tend to not have as good of "intuition" and I don't think that's simply a coincidence.

Either way I think the "gut feeling" we get, and the fact that it's sometimes right, isn't really about ESP at all but a more logical, albeit likely subconscious, stream of intake and analysis.

I don't really believe in ESP. That's not to say it can't actually exist, just that at this time there simply isn't the objective data to support a hypothesis that it does exist.

[Tea & Strumpets]

I don't really consider intuition to be the same thing as ESP.

IMO, people with really good intuition don't pick up on some magical essence or whatever. I really think it's more really good sub-conscious observational skills that some people's brains happen to be really good at putting together to form a bigger picture. I think that's partially why people who are sensitive to other's feelings tend to have "good intuition" regarding people.. because they pick up on really subtle nuances (sometimes without even realizing it fully) from and between people and add that in. People who are oblivious towards others tend to not have as good of "intuition" and I don't think that's simply a coincidence.

Either way I think the "gut feeling" we get, and the fact that it's sometimes right, isn't really about ESP at all but a more logical, albeit likely subconscious, stream of intake and analysis.

I agrees.

[CrystalTears]

I don't really consider intuition to be the same thing as ESP.Neither do I, which is why I said what she experienced was probably intuition.

[Mighty Nikkisaurus]

Neither do I, which is why I said what she experienced was probably intuition.

Oh I know! Sorry, just got home from work so I prolly didn't make it clear enough, but I agree with you and extrapolated on why I think it's intuition and not ESP and why those are different things (because I disagree with Neff).

[Tisket]

Well, the problem with scientifically proving ESP is that a LOT of events can be and are coincidence. In the last forty or fifty years though, we've been coming up with a lot more ways to test it more reliably, and scientifically using instruments.

I'm going to call bullshit on this. There is no compelling scientific evidence that ESP exists.

[Moist Happenings]

I'm going to call bullshit on this. There is no compelling scientific evidence that ESP exists.

To give an example of one type of experiment that's been conducted that I mentioned earlier:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ganzfeld_experiment

I'm not saying that It's the be all end all of scientific data. I'm saying that in my opinion, it probably does exist in some way shape or form, though not to the extent that is jammed into our brains by television, and that in the next hundred years I think we'll be able to get a clearer picture.

I agree with you Nikki that intuition and ESP are different things. In my poker situation, for example, maybe I pick up on subtle body language in the other players at the table unconsciously which make me feel better about my own shitty pocket. That's a large part of what playing poker is about, whether you're picking up tells consciously or unconsciously. I don't believe this is the case for all those situations, but I do believe it is for some, maybe even most.

There's too much that's happened in my life though to chalk it all up to coincidence or intuition though. Not all of it's based on scientific fact, or research, so I won't bother posting more of it here. If it doesn't have a works cited it'll get flamed. Just my personal belief.

And to round out this rant:

There was no compelling scientific data that suggested the world was round, or that gravity existed before it was generally accepted, either. I doubt anyone would still argue that they either of those are untrue. The fact is, there's a lot about the human brain we just don't know, and it wasn't until 40 or 50 years ago that we really started being able to study it in depth. Again, It's my personal belief that in the next 100 years or so we'll be able to get a clearer distinction between intuition, and ESP if there really is such a thing.

Edit:

Okay just a little more.

Take TRL's situation for example. Sure, it could be coincidence that she chose this one day of any to notice this one of a thousand co-workers, but where's the intuition in that situation if it wasn't just coincidence? I highly doubt this co-worker was giving off signals, consciously or unconsciously, that in the following days she was going to die in a car accident, unless it was suicide.

[Tisket]

There's too much that's happened in my life though to chalk it all up to coincidence or intuition though. Not all of it's based on scientific fact, or research, so I won't bother posting more of it here. If it doesn't have a works cited it'll get flamed.

I find it very easy to scoff at people who posit some nebulous sixth sense before ruling out the first five when they experience anything even slightly unusual.

[Moist Happenings]

I find it very easy to scoff at people who posit some nebulous sixth sense before ruling out the first five when they experience anything even slightly unusual.

It would be called a Jump to Conclusions mat.. See..It would have all these different conclusions written on it that you could jump to.

[Tisket]

That, like most of your posts, makes little sense to me.

[Moist Happenings]

I'm not surprised.

See? I knew you'd say that. Must have been ESP. /sarcasm

[SpiffyJr]

I've had several odd things happen to me in the past but the most odd was when I was ~ 13 years of age.

I was lying next to the couch and for some reason I got to thinking about spiders. I was thinking about a spider so clear it seemed real to me. Then I saw the spider crawl across the floor and start to crawl up my leg. A few seconds later I felt something on my leg, flipped out, and realized there was a spider identical to the one I was thinking of crawling away from my leg.

That freaked my shit out and to this day whenever I find myself in a similar situation (not necessarily spiders) I immediately force myself to think of something different.

[nub]

I've had several odd things happen to me in the past but the most odd was when I was ~ 13 years of age.

I was lying next to the couch and for some reason I got to thinking about spiders. I was thinking about a spider so clear it seemed real to me. Then I saw the spider crawl across the floor and start to crawl up my leg. A few seconds later I felt something on my leg, flipped out, and realized there was a spider identical to the one I was thinking of crawling away from my leg.

That freaked my shit out and to this day whenever I find myself in a similar situation (not necessarily spiders) I immediately force myself to think of something different.

That happens to me when I have wet dreams.

[Sean]

When I play roulette on the outside of the board my gut usually tells me where to bet and what do you know I'm usually right. Or it could just be that I have a 47% chance of being right on the 1:1 payout portion of the board. How does your poker ESP apply to non poker games? You say when you just play the card you only win here and there but when you play the individuals you win big. So we'll throw out roll trends in roulette and play the individual spinning how do you do reading them? What about craps and the individual throwing? The dealer at blackjack?

[Moist Happenings]

When I play roulette on the outside of the board my gut usually tells me where to bet and what do you know I'm usually right. Or it could just be that I have a 47% chance of being right on the 1:1 payout portion of the board. How does your poker ESP apply to non poker games? You say when you just play the card you only win here and there but when you play the individuals you win big. So we'll throw out roll trends in roulette and play the individual spinning how do you do reading them? What about craps and the individual throwing? The dealer at blackjack?

I don't really play roulette or anything enough to form an opinion one way or another about it.

One thing does spring to mind, but it could just as easily be chalked up to coincidence. I was bored one day and teaching an old lady to play roulette. I was telling her that the comps were better playing the insides, buy the odds were much worse, and noticed that 00 hadn't hit in the last 20 spins (that's how many are listed on the board). Anyway, I thought to myself that it was due. Didn't bet it. I only play the outsides when I play, but it hit the next spin.

I dunno. If it happened consistently, maybe I could call it some sort of extra sensory perception, but as I don't really play anything but poker, I can't really.

Poker's also not the only way I've noticed strange occurrences. It's just what I chose to use as an example.

[Skeeter]

I don't think you have a 6th sense. I think you're just really bad at math.

[Ignot]

I think I have a sixth sense, like just now I really had a strange feeling that this thread was going to suck. I clicked anyways and WOW it totally does! It must be ESP, no other explanation.

[Sean of the Thread]

I don't think you have a 6th sense. I think you're just really bad at math.

And roulette.

[Moist Happenings]

I'm not a complete moron. I know what the odds on a roulette table are, and if I didn't, the little complimentary rule cards they hand out do.

And no, I don't consider myself "good" at roulette, because you can't be good at roulette. It's a luck game. Hence, I only play it when extremely bored or waiting to sit a poker table.

[Faent]

One thing does spring to mind, but it could just as easily be chalked up to coincidence.

Then don't cite it as evidence for your theory.

[Moist Happenings]

Then don't cite it as evidence for your theory.

Here, let me quote myself for you, you fucking worthless cocksucker.



I don't really play roulette or anything enough to form an opinion one way or another about it.
Take your head out of your ass and take a picture so Methais can add to his Goatse collection, you putrescent pool of donkey spunk.

[Sean of the Thread]

Uh oh you got his panties in a bunch now.


Seriously putrescent pool of donkey semen? rofl

[Amber]

To give an example of one type of experiment that's been conducted that I mentioned earlier:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ganzfeld_experiment


Wow, this guy who does the ganzfeld experiments really is psychic!!!


In 1983 Honorton had started a series of autoganzfeld experiments at his Psychophysical Research Laboratories. These studies were specifically designed to avoid the same potential problems as those identified in the 1986 joint communiqué issued by Hyman and Honorton.

While I do believe there are some people much more intuitive than others, I have grave doubts that ESP actually exists. There have been studies performed for at least 150 years, as well as multiple rewards offered to anyone who can demonstrate psychic ability but thus far, there's been no conclusive evidence to support psychic abilities. James Randi is just one of a slew of people challenging psychics to come forward for a reward. In the ten years he's been offering a million to the first person to truly demonstrate paranormal powers, he's yet to find anyone with true demonstratable powers. http://skepdic.com/randi.html

[Ignot]

Here, let me quote myself for you, you fucking worthless cocksucker.



HA! For the first time you don't sound like a pussy. I had a feeling you would get pissed eventually, probably my sixth sense.

[CrystalTears]

I think I have a sixth sense, like just now I really had a strange feeling that this thread was going to suck. I clicked anyways and WOW it totally does! It must be ESP, no other explanation.


HA! For the first time you don't sound like a pussy. I had a feeling you would get pissed eventually, probably my sixth sense.
On a roll are we? :lol:

[diethx]

On a roll are we? :lol:


:yeahthat:

:heart: Ignot.

[Kuyuk]

I've had major deja vu instances, where I have some snippet of a dream, and like three years later, it happens for like 30 seconds verbatim...

<shrug>

[diethx]

That happens to me too, although it's not always a dream. I swear I get some bad deja vu sometimes it freaks me out. I dunno how much I believe in it even though I feel it so strongly, however. I guess I have a hard time believing I can see or dream the future, haha.

[CrystalTears]

Deja vu is a glitch in the Matrix! It happens when they change something! Run!!

[Kayse]

Deja vu is a glitch in the Matrix! It happens when they change something! Run!!

LOL

[Fallen]

I always took Deja vu to be my brain fooling itself into thinking i've done/witnessed once before. A misallocation of memory.

[Hulkein]

I don't think I've ever had a feeling of deja vu.

[Fallen]

For me it is just a feeling that i've been/seen a location/situation before, but have no idea how it was possible. You start to think about it and you have hazy memories of doing/seeing something similar, but can't place it.

[Kayse]

What bothers me about deja vu is that after you have that moment of "Whoa, that was odd, this seems familiar." You sit there and try and figure out WHY you had that feeling and its completely frustrating when you can't place it. I.E--trying to link it to a dream you had or something else that is similar to that moment.

[Clove]

I have vuja de constantly.

[CrystalTears]

I have vuja de constantly.
The feeling that none of this has ever happened before? :D

[Mighty Nikkisaurus]

What bothers me about deja vu is that after you have that moment of "Whoa, that was odd, this seems familiar." You sit there and try and figure out WHY you had that feeling and its completely frustrating when you can't place it. I.E--trying to link it to a dream you had or something else that is similar to that moment.

Yeah, though I've found actually pausing to figure out what specifically caused the deja vu feeling has led me to believe that it really is your mind linking certain vivid aspects of the present to vivid aspects of the (very) hazy past.

It's still a really weird feeling.

[diethx]

Deja vu is a glitch in the Matrix! It happens when they change something! Run!!

Ahaha, I knew someone was gonna do that.


For me it is just a feeling that i've been/seen a location/situation before, but have no idea how it was possible. You start to think about it and you have hazy memories of doing/seeing something similar, but can't place it.

It's not hazy for me, it's always like crystal clear that I just know i've done/seen/heard it before. I just don't know when or how or WTF.

[Ignot]

It's not hazy for me, it's always like crystal clear that I just know i've done/seen/heard it before. I just don't know when or how or WTF.

This is kind of weird but when I get Deja Vu I usually try to break it by doing something that I know I would never do. Like make chicken noises or something.

[BigWorm]

It would be called a Jump to Conclusions mat.. See..It would have all these different conclusions written on it that you could jump to.

WTF. I just saw this. How are you going to steal my lines from the neg rep I left you. YOU BASTARD!!!!!!11111oneoneone

[Moist Happenings]

WTF. I just saw this. How are you going to steal my lines from the neg rep I left you. YOU BASTARD!!!!!!11111oneoneone

Haha, you never came forward and said it was you when I asked. Posrep for it though, as promised.

[Stanley Burrell]

I usually see the same black cat walk by twice and speaketh:

"Whoa."

Edited to include:


Deja vu is a glitch in the Matrix! It happens when they change something! Run!!

Deja Vu is also a sign that you are about to have a temporal lobe seizure. I think it's ≈ "aura" symptoms. I guess you'd remember it if you had a partial complex without a memory loss component (or maybe deja-vu-person-X's brain's just crap in the time department.) I guess if you understand it less, you can make all sorts of cool threads on the Internet that are like, "BURN THE WITCHES AND THEIR ANTI-CHRISTIAN SCIENCE FLAT-WORLD RHETORIC!" Which is pretty cool, because then the Crucible could not have been written and I wouldn't have watched the syndicated movie based on the book. Starring Daniel Day-Lewis as John Proctor.

[TheRoseLady]

This is kind of weird but when I get Deja Vu I usually try to break it by doing something that I know I would never do. Like make chicken noises or something.

I can see why you claim you're from Freaksville. :D

[diethx]

Right? Hehe, that is kinda weird.