Crafting/Forging Questions

[Moist Happenings]

Okay, haven't done this since it first came out years ago, so I have a couple of questions I wasn't able to find answers to on krakiipedia or play.net

First, does anyone know roughly how many hours it takes to master crafting and forging respectively? Just want to get an estimate so I can plan ahead.

Second, is the only use for crafting still to make hammers, or is there some other use for it now?

Third, I've got my crafting script working just fine. I can alter it later on when I go to do forging I'm sure, but does anyone have a working forging script already out there? Preferably something fully automated. Buys materials, rents workshops, does its thing, runs to the bank when out of money, et cetera.

And last, what's the going rate on slabs of decent materials roughly? Specifically I'm wondering about rolaren and eonake.

Thanks much.

Edit to add:

Ooh, thought of another one. Read the old post on krakiipedia about forging/crafting bonuses based on race and profession. Half elves show as NA for crafting, but elves as a slight bonus. I read this as Half elves are neutral in this regard, but just wanted to make sure: Do they get the same slight crafting bonus as elves?

[Stretch]

It takes ~120 hours for crafting and ~180 hours for each weapon skill

[Moist Happenings]

Awesome. Thanks much Stretch.

[Euler]

3400 attempts at scribing to master (average) (3 minutes per attempt)
Mid point (timewise) is at about rank 483 I think.
It takes me about 3 months to master from 0, but I don't have a script that runs 24/7. You will probably go faster if that is what you are planning on doing. Eonake, rolaren fluctuate.

Not in your question, but it sounds like you are going this way:
It is not financially worth the cost/time to master. There is very little market. Once you master, it can take 30-60 minutes to make a single vultite weapon. Then try selling it. You can make way more coin using that time to hunt.

I started forging when my buddy and I were hunting wraiths. By the time I had mastered all the skills in the forge, he was a high lord and I hadn't titled.

If I had it to do again, I would just hire an existant forger to make whatever weapon you are looking for.

[Moist Happenings]

Oh I don't really expect to make money with it. Thank you very much for that info though. It's more an RP thing for me, and something to do when I get bored. I'm not running a script 24/7, but on days when I don't feel like hunting like on a Sunday, I have no issue settin' a script and watchin' football/NASCAR while I keep an eye on the game.

[Moist Happenings]

Hehe, just a random note here too. I know this is gonna slow down once the ranks start coming slower, but this is almost as good as hunting right now.

Session: 2 hours, 58 minutes, 57 seconds
Exp: 4793 [26.78/min, 1607.04/hr, 23 hours, 43 minutes, 18 seconds to next]
Fame: 556 [3.11/min, 186.42/hr]

sR>artisan skill
In the skill of forging - crafting, you are an apprentice with 122 ranks.

[TheLastShamurai]

heres mine. you'll need to start with a note in your STOW container (30k is more than enough), the glyph in your STOW container, a bronze bar in your left and your hammer in your right. it will buy new glyphs and bars if you run out as well as cover rent, water, etc. it covers a few eventualities i have run into and (if you're paying attention to the script) it will look like somethings wrong; example: you may stare at a glyph while not in the forge. just leave it alone and it will do its thing. its currently set for use in the landing with stormfront. its set up right now for twohanders using flail-head glyphs, just plug and play as needed. oh, and unless its a personal thing (and even then) i wouldn't bother with eonake.

Start:
put stare head-glyph
match ready your material is marked
match needglyph then the glyph turns a dull grey and crumbles to dust
match needglyph Before the design is complete you reach an edge of the bar and realize it is too small.
matchwait

Ready:
echo READY
pause 1
put get tongs
match tongs Get what?
match rent The tongs don't budge!
match rent2 You don't have enough silver, rentals are 300 silver.
match needwater The tempering trough is empty!
match fail1 realizing that there's more work to be done
match fail2 you realize that the scribed pattern is gone
match needbar you've totally shattered your bronze bar
match success you nod, satisfied with your work
match success With a satisfying * HISSSSSSSSSSS * the
matchwait
pause 1

Fail1:
echo FAILURE
pause 1
goto ready

Fail2:
echo FAILURE
pause 1
goto start

NeedGlyph:
echo NEED GLYPH
put stow bar
put wear forging-hammer
put go door
put go out
put get note
put order 1 of 30 material wax
put buy
put stow note
put stow head-glyph
put go work
put go door
put remove forging-hammer
put get bar
goto ready

Success:
echo SUCCESS
pause 5
put go door
put put flail-head in bin
put wear forging-hammer
put get note
put go out
put order 1 of 2
put buy
put stow note
put go work
put go door
put remove forging-hammer
put goto start

NeedWater:
echo NEED WATER
put wear forging-hammer
put stow bar
put get bucket
pause 20
put remove forging-hammer
put get bar
goto start


Rent:
echo RENT
put go door
put go out
move s
move s
move s
put go out
move n
move w
move w
move w
move sw
move w
put go bank
put go arch
put withdrawl 300 silver
put go arch
put go out
move e
move ne
move e
move e
move e
move s
put go gate
move n
move n
move n
put go work
put go door
goto start

Rent2:
echo NEED RENT
move s
move s
move s
move out
move n
move w
move w
move w
move sw
move w
put go bank
put go arch
put withdrawl 300 silver
put go ar
move out
move e
move ne
move e
move e
move e
move s
put go ga
move n
move n
move n
put go work
put go door
goto ready

NeedBar:
echo NEED BAR
put wear forging-hammer
put get note
put go door
move out
put order 1 of 2
put buy
put go work
put go door
put stow note
put remove forging-hammer
goto start

Tongs:
echo TONGS
put go work
match rent2 You don't have enough silver, rentals are 300 silver.
matchwait

[Moist Happenings]

Thanks very much. I appreciate it.

[Moist Happenings]

Crafting STR (http://www.krakiipedia.org/wiki/STR), DEX (http://www.krakiipedia.org/wiki/DEX), DIS (http://www.krakiipedia.org/wiki/DIS) Forging STR (http://www.krakiipedia.org/wiki/STR), CON (http://www.krakiipedia.org/wiki/CON), DIS (http://www.krakiipedia.org/wiki/DIS) Vise DEX (http://www.krakiipedia.org/wiki/DEX), DIS (http://www.krakiipedia.org/wiki/DIS)
Taken from Krakiipedia.

Does anyone know exactly how these affect chances? Do they just affect your chance to create an item, or do they give you bonuses when trying to create perfect pieces? And if so, how much?