Going to use Fixskills

[Taken]

I am going to use Fixskills and want to make sure I fix everything that needs to be fixed. At level 25 these are my skills:

(at level 25), your base skill bonuses, ranks and goals are:
Skill Name | Actual Actual
| Bonus Ranks Goals
Armor Use..........................| 66 10 10
Shield Use.........................| 40 0 0
Edged Weapons......................| 45 0 0
Physical Fitness...................| 154 54 54
Arcane Symbols.....................| 40 8 8
Magic Item Use.....................| 54 11 11
Harness Power......................| 146 46 48
Mental Mana Control................| 111 27 27
Spirit Mana Control................| 111 27 27
Spiritual Lore - Blessings.........| 30 6 6
Spiritual Lore - Summoning.........| 40 8 8
Mental Lore - Manipulation.........| 58 12 12
Mental Lore - Telepathy............| 35 7 7
Mental Lore - Transference.........| 0 0 1
Mental Lore - Transformation.......| 58 12 12
Survival...........................| 90 20 20
Stalking and Hiding................| 50 10 10
Perception.........................| 78 17 17
Climbing...........................| 50 10 10
Swimming...........................| 50 10 10
First Aid..........................| 173 73 73
Trading............................| 15 3 3

Spell Lists
Major Spirit.......................| 25 25

Spell Lists
Minor Spirit.......................| 4 4

Spell Lists
Empath.............................| 25 25
Training Points: 15 Phy 0 Mnt (394 Phy converted to Mnt)

189 days remain until the annual FIXSKILLS is to be granted, on 05/20/2009

My main goal is hunting using CS based spells, using transference to teleport around, eventually using spirit guide to increase my teleporting powers, using scrolls to spells myself up, skinning and heal well enough that I don't hinder a group or myself. I use a runestaff and wear double leather. I'm not exactly sure what I need to change to make the above items most effective and why..... so any help would be greatly appreciated.

[phantasm]

You will regret your neglect of Spell Aiming!

[Taken]

I have not used fixskills yet but plan on using it. If I could ask, why would I want spell aiming and does it affect CS casted spells?

Also, perhaps I did not word my original post correctly. The skills shown are my current skills. I'm asking what I should change to achieve what I posted was important. Again thank you all for any information you can provide.

[Renian]

I have not used fixskills yet but plan on using it. If I could ask, why would I want spell aiming and does it affect CS casted spells?


You don't want it; Phantasm lies. Especially when you can't even cast Fire Spirit.

But that's the main thing; fire spirit is essentially an empath's only AE attack. There's also 1110 which has a fantastic DF, along with additional cycles of CS damage. 1106 is still enough to rip through just about anything you want to kill though, with 1115 whacking the undead in your way.

Oh, also; get rid of most of those lores and focus on a few of them instead. You're too spread out. If you're going to hunt, pump Manipulation lore for shattering fun times. You'll probably also want to pump Empath spells.

And why the hell do you have 54 ranks of PF?!

[CrystalTears]

Fire Spirit is da bomb. I love using it.

[Izzy]

(at level 25), your base skill bonuses, ranks and goals are:
Skill Name | Actual Actual
| Bonus Ranks Goals
Armor Use..........................| 66 10 10 Why 10? 8 for doubles, otherwise it's like..15 for lbp
Shield Use.........................| 40 0 0
Edged Weapons......................| 45 0 0
Physical Fitness...................| 154 54 54 This looks excessive. You aren't going to get redux as a pure, so just get the ~24 ranks for max hitpoints
Arcane Symbols.....................| 40 8 8 for a runestaff user, you'll probably want to 2x
Magic Item Use.....................| 54 11 11 see above
Harness Power......................| 146 46 48 keep this at 1x (25 ranks)
Mental Mana Control................| 111 27 27 good
Spirit Mana Control................| 111 27 27 good
Spiritual Lore - Blessings.........| 30 6 6 drop this
Spiritual Lore - Summoning.........| 40 8 8 pick a lore.
Mental Lore - Manipulation.........| 58 12 12 see above
Mental Lore - Telepathy............| 35 7 7 drop this. only helps 1110, which is useless without spellaiming
Mental Lore - Transference.........| 0 0 1 drop
Mental Lore - Transformation.......| 58 12 12 this is for healers. drop, or select this as your lore
Survival...........................| 90 20 20 i'd drop this in favor of 2x FA if you want to skin
Stalking and Hiding................| 50 10 10 drop
Perception.........................| 78 17 17 drop, or 1x
Climbing...........................| 50 10 10 fine
Swimming...........................| 50 10 10 fine
First Aid..........................| 173 73 73 stick to 2x, 3x is excessive imo
Trading............................| 15 3 3 drop

Spell Lists
Major Spirit.......................| 25 25 good, keep at 1x, or switch to minor spirit

Spell Lists
Minor Spirit.......................| 4 4

Spell Lists
Empath.............................| 25 25 raise this for more CS

:yeahthat:

[Xaerve]

Spell aiming is not mana efficient, nor worth it until cap. And only then, to deal with Griffins and Elementals. Also, I would have NO lores until cap; its not worth it IMO; get that CS nasty and just ward shit to death.

Here is what I'd do for optimal hunting, you really only need to be bone shattering shit:


8 ranks of armor
1x shield
1x brawling
1x PF
1x perception
40 ranks AS
25 ranks MIU
1x HP
1x MMC
24 ranks of SMC
20 ranks of climbing
(50 ranks of swimming for Nelemar one day you can hold off on training this)

Dump all the rest of your ranks into spells. I'd go Empath/100's/200's, finishing 225/130 ASAP. Excessive 100's ranks makes 102 nice. 67/67/160 (100/200/1100) is where I am stopping.


Here I am at 10m post-cap:


Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Armor Use..........................| 40 8
Shield Use.........................| 201 101
Brawling...........................| 201 101
Physical Fitness...................| 201 101
Arcane Symbols.....................| 140 40
Magic Item Use.....................| 105 25
Spell Aiming.......................| 302 202
Harness Power......................| 201 101
Mental Mana Control................| 201 101
Spirit Mana Control................| 102 24
Mental Lore - Manipulation.........| 136 38
Mental Lore - Telepathy............| 25 5
Mental Lore - Transformation.......| 157 57
Perception.........................| 201 101
Climbing...........................| 90 20
Swimming...........................| 150 50

Spell Lists
Major Spirit.......................| 59

Spell Lists
Minor Spirit.......................| 59

Spell Lists
Empath.............................| 158

1x PF = necessary for an empath; its fucking cheap and has a ton of benefits. I'm going to 3x eventually. Helps against CM's, criticals, health generation, etc.

I'd strongly suggest not using a runestaff as soon as possible, they're horrible and open handed casting is extremely deadly and provides better DS and no worrying about disarm.

[Ignot]

Not to nitpick but HP should be 24 ranks

[CrystalTears]

Eh, I disagree about not having spell aiming until cap. It comes in handy for using wands (since you're already training in MIU) so as not to rely on spells since you won't have as much mana to use.

I'd say it's more of a personal preference in how you want to hunt, but I feel that adding spell aiming allows you more options.

[Izzy]

1x PF = necessary for an empath; its fucking cheap and has a ton of benefits. I'm going to 3x eventually. Helps against CM's, criticals, health generation, etc.

Meh. necessary is a stretch, I'd put this at a post cap goal. 1x is easy, I'd agree. 2x is excessive for now.



I'd strongly suggest not using a runestaff as soon as possible, they're horrible and open handed casting is extremely deadly and provides better DS and no worrying about disarm.


Using a runestaff gives you an open hand by default.


Eh, I disagree about not having spell aiming until cap. It comes in handy for using wands (since you're already training in MIU) so as not to rely on spells since you won't have as much mana to use.

I'd say it's more of a personal preference in how you want to hunt, but I feel that adding spell aiming allows you more options.

I would tend to agree here. 1110 is also awesome. I only gave my suggestions based on the fact that he said he wanted to use CS spells.


Not to nitpick but HP should be 24 ranks

No, hp should be = to level, but not over level because then it becomes 1 mana/point

[Ignot]

my bad, thats what i meant, 1x -1.

[Tea & Strumpets]

Using a runestaff gives you an open hand by default.



Are you sure about that? Offensively they are considered two-handed weapons (staff).

[Xaerve]

Are you sure about that? Offensively they are considered two-handed weapons (staff).

Edit: Belnia confirmed that you do get the open handed casting bonus from using a runestaff; apologies. Shield is still drastically better in the long run.

Also, 1x PF is necessary IMO -- the gains for the costs are extreme. Its negligible to 1x from a training points perspective.

I'll concede that wands are useful, but I think that staying true with 2x spell aiming is going to drastically reduce your CS and result in you using more mana in the long run; again maybe there is a point you want to dump the spell aiming.

Good discussion all.

[stickyfingers]

My empath is 28 and does fine with just 1x spell Aiming if someone wanted to do that, I run out of mana too often so use wands alot. I'm gonna bump it up to 2x or closer to now that I'm done training in minor/manor spirtual circles.

[Taken]

Thank you all for the great advice! So lets say I decide I want to use wands and I go that route as well. Do empaths use CS based wands or AS based wands?

[Xiandrena]

You can use both. But if you want to use the AS based wands you'll need to train in spell aiming.

[stickyfingers]

I personally used twisted and bone wands to start of with cause they were easier to use with less MIU training,especially when weighed down. Then once I had enough training not to stun myself with elemental/bolt wands, I started using those too.

[Taken]

Thank you all for the advice! I do have one last question....does MIU affect your CS attack? Either negatively or positively?

((I'll concede that wands are useful, but I think that staying true with 2x spell aiming is going to drastically reduce your CS and result in you using more mana in the long run; again maybe there is a point you want to dump the spell aiming.))

From the statement above I get the idea that it does affect my CS and in a negative way.

[CrystalTears]

I really don't know what Xaerve has against spell aiming.

[Izzy]

Thank you all for the advice! I do have one last question....does MIU affect your CS attack? Either negatively or positively?

((I'll concede that wands are useful, but I think that staying true with 2x spell aiming is going to drastically reduce your CS and result in you using more mana in the long run; again maybe there is a point you want to dump the spell aiming.))

From the statement above I get the idea that it does affect my CS and in a negative way.

Nothing you train in, other than spell ranks, affects CS in any way.

Edit: Well, I suppose if you train in other things, you're not using those points to train in extra spell ranks, thereby indirectly lowering your potential CS. But nothing physically lowers CS.

[Taken]

You guys are awesome! Here is what I ended up with at lvl 26 - I do have to say I miss the extra 20 mana as I reduced my harness power points but other than that I love me!

Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Armor Use..........................| 40 8
Physical Fitness...................| 108 26
Arcane Symbols.....................| 134 37
Magic Item Use.....................| 134 37
Harness Power......................| 130 35
Mental Mana Control................| 111 27
Spirit Mana Control................| 111 27
Spiritual Lore - Summoning.........| 114 28
Mental Lore - Manipulation.........| 114 28
Survival...........................| 105 25
Stalking and Hiding................| 50 10
Perception.........................| 105 25
Climbing...........................| 50 10
Swimming...........................| 50 10
First Aid..........................| 153 53
Spell Lists
Major Spirit.......................| 25

Spell Lists
Minor Spirit.......................| 6

Spell Lists
Empath.............................| 27

:thanx:

[CrystalTears]

Is there a reason why you kept the stalking and hiding?

[Taken]

The stalking and hiding I use as a roleplaying thing so I need to be able to hide at will.

[CrystalTears]

Fair enough. Enjoy your new training. :)

[Fallen]

With summoning lore you can use 106 to auto hide with 0 hard RT.

[CrystalTears]

It's not really the same thing.

[Izzy]

It's not really the same thing.

It's also on duration timer, not a permanent hide.

[CrystalTears]

I mean I suppose you could cast it and since it provides a bonus to hiding, you can just hide while fogged, then when it dissipates it won't matter. Just seems a bit excessive, but at least you could spend points on HP or more spells than hiding. :shrug:

[CrazyEyesMcKinney]

Urgoyle uses the spirit fog hide a lot. It worked well for him in pennant chase too.. looks useful but I don't want that lore just yet.