Colon Cleansing?

[Gan]

Ok, so the doctor is on my ass about getting old and eating right.

For the most part I watch what I eat, need to cut back on soft drinks (switching back to teas), and need to keep up my running/weight workouts.

He recommended that I also do some treatment inside the body, namely going through a colonic cleansing routine.

So yea, I hop on http://www.colonzone.org/ to see some specifics on what the deal is, what it involves, etc.

Ugh - the pictures. :wtf:

So, my question is, who here has gone through anything like this (no I'm not talking about analbuttsexorzcolonpacking)?

I need some first hand testimonials WITHOUT THE NASTY ASS SHIT PICS.

Discuss:

[Athgo]

If you increase your fiber intake, either through your diet or by a fiber supplement, it would do the most to keep your colon healthy long term. Any particular reason why your doctor suggested these colon cleansing routines?

[Bokertal]

This shit is a useless, dangerous, money making fad. An MD recommened you get this done? Exit only brother, eat your bran flakes.

[Necromancer]

What you might want to try first is fasting. It'll accomplish the same goal, and it has additional health benefits.

Do it one weekend a month (two if you're ambitious). Some things to know:

1. Juice fasts are worthless. You cannot drink anything but water. If your body is digesting ANYTHING but water, it won't go into the mode you need it to be in.

2. You must spend the day doing light stuff. No work, no leaving the house, etc. Drink tons of water.

It's hard to do at first, but it really does have health benefits above and beyond a colonic.

Also cut down on your meat intake. Most of what we have sitting in our intestines rotting is meat- your body can't digest it properly so it sort of just sits there. Veggies stay there for a day and a half on average, but meat stays for several days.

Just find yourself some soy product replacements (faux meat) to use in heavy flavor meals (soy chicken in stir fries and pasta sauces, for example, since the flavor of the sauce means you really can't taste whether it's chicken or soy). Stick to what you're used to for foods that won't mask the differences between what you're eating.

[Athgo]

This shit is a useless, dangerous, money making fad. An MD recommened you get this done? Exit only brother, eat your bran flakes.

Thats why I was wondering why his doctor recommended it. We're currently in a gastrointestinal/nutrition course in medical school and these were presented mostly as a scam that disrupts the normal bacteria of the colon. This can cause problems greater problems with infections and motility.

[Necromancer]

yeah, there's no actual proof of health benefits for colonics. Fasting is a much better idea.

[Athgo]

What you might want to try first is fasting. It'll accomplish the same goal, and it has additional health benefits.

Do it one weekend a month (two if you're ambitious). Some things to know:

1. Juice fasts are worthless. You cannot drink anything but water. If your body is digesting ANYTHING but water, it won't go into the mode you need it to be in.

2. You must spend the day doing light stuff. No work, no leaving the house, etc. Drink tons of water.

It's hard to do at first, but it really does have health benefits above and beyond a colonic.

Also cut down on your meat intake. Most of what we have sitting in our intestines rotting is meat- your body can't digest it properly so it sort of just sits there. Veggies stay there for a day and a half on average, but meat stays for several days.

Just find yourself some soy product replacements (faux meat) to use in heavy flavor meals (soy chicken in stir fries and pasta sauces, for example, since the flavor of the sauce means you really can't taste whether it's chicken or soy). Stick to what you're used to for foods that won't mask the differences between what you're eating.

Actually most plant products are more difficult to digest, which is why they speed up movement of food through the intestine. Meat products move more slowly so that they can be totally digested. But you are correct that vegetable products are important for intestinal health.

[Necromancer]

You're referring to cellulose I assume. We don't even try to digest it- it's one of the advancements of human digestion. Meat, on the other hand, your body will try to digest but cannot do so nearly as efficiently as plants. (Because we're herbivores, but that's a whole different thread)

Though, we're both just looking at the same process and viewing it from different angles grin

[Athgo]

You're referring to cellulose I assume. We don't even try to digest it- it's one of the advancements of human digestion. Meat, on the other hand, your body will try to digest but cannot do so nearly as efficiently as plants. (Because we're herbivores, but that's a whole different thread)

Though, we're both just looking at the same process and viewing it from different angles grin

I was referring to the total category of dietary fibers, which includes cellulose and also many other plant substances. But I agree, the nutrients in plant that are able to be digested are typically much simpler and easier to digest than in meat. But it does take a lot more work to get all the essential vitamins and minerals through a vegetarian diet, although it is very possible.

[Necromancer]

It doesn't take more work to get your nutrients through a vegetarian diet (except of course having to go to different stores who have a broader selection of vegetarian food). That's just a misconception. And there's a reason why vegetarian diets are considered to be more healthy than meat diets- the big benefit of a vegetarian diet is that it's MUCH easier to cut out the BAD stuff.

It'd be interesting to see what kind of nutrition information you're getting at med school. The quality and amount of education on nutrition in US medical schools has been under fire and received a full Senate inquiry a few years back. Though anecdotely I hear it's getting a little better in some places.

[Athgo]

It doesn't take more work to get your nutrients through a vegetarian diet (except of course having to go to different stores who have a broader selection of vegetarian food). That's just a misconception. And there's a reason why vegetarian diets are considered to be more healthy than meat diets- the big benefit of a vegetarian diet is that it's MUCH easier to cut out the BAD stuff.

I was just referring to getting the variety of vegetarian food and coordinating complete meals (not just eating a salad).


It'd be interesting to see what kind of nutrition information you're getting at med school. The quality and amount of education on nutrition in US medical schools has been under fire and received a full Senate inquiry a few years back. Though anecdotely I hear it's getting a little better in some places.


This class is mainly a functional nutrition course that covers the methods of nutrient breakdown and absorption. It covers mainly enzymes and receptors, with a focus mainly on pathology. I assume actual patient nutrition and dietary recommendations will be covered more on our clinical rotations, so I'll have to wait until next year to find out.

[Daniel]

God. There is not enough negative rep in the world for this thread.

[Necromancer]

Way to remedy the situation?

[Anebriated]

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b393/troywatts/PiCS/colonblow_2.png

[Athgo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7l6jg4Hlog

[Gan]

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b393/troywatts/PiCS/colonblow_2.png

ROFL

By far one of the funniest SNL "commercials" ever produced.

Points for this one.

[Gan]

Thats why I was wondering why his doctor recommended it. We're currently in a gastrointestinal/nutrition course in medical school and these were presented mostly as a scam that disrupts the normal bacteria of the colon. This can cause problems greater problems with infections and motility.

Yes. My MD of 17 years said I should consider some methods of taking care of the pipes on the inside. He's the best GP I've had.

He covered different methods and asked me to so some homework before I spoke with him again. He's big on getting his patients to understand whats involved before coming up with a plan.

We'll (me and the doctor) talk again next week to see what I think.

[Some Rogue]

I was going to ask if your doctor was a high level sorcerer in Gemstone, but well, I was beaten to the punchline. :D

[Gnomad]

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b393/troywatts/PiCS/colonblow_2.png

came here to post this but i got the vid

http://www.hulu.com/watch/10304/saturday-night-live-colon-blow

[Stretch]

I would advise you to do the exact opposite of anything Necromancer recommends.

Like eat insane amounts of delicious cow.

[Sean of the Thread]

I used a colon blow product a few years back and boy did it clear my shit out. And to tell you the truth I felt great for a year after. When your intestines are cleared of all the gunk sticking to the walls you absorb your nutrients much better.

I took it as a dare just to see how much shit I could pump out but it worked out fine. Just stay close to a bathroom. I literally almost shit in an aisle of the USF library.

[Numbers]

I don't see what's so wrong with that website...

EDIT: OH MY GOD WHAT THE HELL IS THAT THAT CAME OUT OF SOMEONES ASS WHY ARE THEY BRINGING A CAMERA AND TAKING PICTURES OF THEIR POO AND WHY ARE THEY EVEN TAKING IT OUT OF THE TOILET HOLY SHIT!!!!!!!11!!!1!!!!

[Sean of the Thread]

bwhwhhahhahahaha

[Mighty Nikkisaurus]

I would advise you to do the exact opposite of anything Necromancer recommends.

Like eat insane amounts of delicious cow.

MEAT IS MURDER.






Tasty, tasty murder.

[AestheticDeath]

Disclaimer: I have never done this, and have no idea what I am talking about.

I would say taking colon cleansing products is a bit excessive unless you have real problems.

More then likely an improved diet is all you need, and nothing as excessive as starving yourself for a weekend.

More vegetables, less meat and bread etc.. Also help you lose some extra pounds if you have extra/want to etc..

What I found googling for 2 seconds:
http://altmedicine.about.com/cs/dietarytherapy/a/Detox_Diet_Plan.htm

http://www.colonzone.org/colon-cleanse-diet.php

[The Ponzzz]

Man, Tep showed me a link from I believe this thread where the guy shit out a rope? Geezus...

Colon cancer runs in my family and I been taking a Fiber Choice tablet once a day for a few years and I've notice a slight improvement. I'm not in good shape and could afford to be living a much healthier life style, but I dunno... These Colonics just don't seem like the way to go.

I might do one for shits (LOL) and giggles. I want to shit out a crocodile.

[Gan]

I would advise you to do the exact opposite of anything Necromancer recommends.

Like eat insane amounts of delicious cow.
Can I get an AMEN?
AMEN!


I don't see what's so wrong with that website...

EDIT: OH MY GOD WHAT THE HELL IS THAT THAT CAME OUT OF SOMEONES ASS WHY ARE THEY BRINGING A CAMERA AND TAKING PICTURES OF THEIR POO AND WHY ARE THEY EVEN TAKING IT OUT OF THE TOILET HOLY SHIT!!!!!!!11!!!1!!!!
:rofl: @ the edit


MEAT IS MURDER.






Tasty, tasty murder.
As long as there are cows, there will be steak in my freezer, on my grill, and in my tummy. Yummy.

[Renian]

1. Juice fasts are worthless. You cannot drink anything but water. If your body is digesting ANYTHING but water, it won't go into the mode you need it to be in.


Juice fasts aren't worthless; they are a good step up to a water fast. But they aren't made of as much win, that's for damn sure.

But yes, fasting has other benefits, like increasing your real-life INT for a few months if you do a long one, and permanently increasing it a little bit, because you release BDNF when you fast. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BDNF

I fasted for two weeks on water in my senior year of high school. My GPA went up 10 points for the rest of the year--I had an average in my last two quarters that was higher than the valedictorian's.

[TheRoseLady]

Gan,

I had considered doing this somewhat recently. I did a little bit of investigating - mainly to find out if those nasty pics were for real or if they could be explained away...

http://rawveg.info/coloncleanse.html

[Athgo]

Just get yourself some of these:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exmEGrNqgcA

[Stanley Burrell]

http://omax3.com/

http://www.omegabrite.com/

http://www.nordicnaturals.com/

I buy Nature Made fish oils high in Omega-3, but if you ever want a decent cleansing ritual, try superdoses of Omega-3; although I'd take a small dose for starters and see how a gradual increment helps... Clean you up.

These sites are either free of fish, or refined concentrations you won't see with slightly fishier products like Nature Made, which is the best Walgreens has to offer. I also buy Nature Made because I'm too poor to afford the above three omega-3 sites' products.

The best thing about omega-3s are that your body passes bad fats; whether it be in your colon, arteries and everywhere in-between.



Don't mix up fish oil for flax seed. That you can take too much of.

[Gan]

Gan,

I had considered doing this somewhat recently. I did a little bit of investigating - mainly to find out if those nasty pics were for real or if they could be explained away...

http://rawveg.info/coloncleanse.html

Interesting.

Thanks.

[Stanley Burrell]

Don't eat too much fiber at once if you're not used to it, your body won't be able to handle it.

I don't know what this actually means but my nutrition professor mentioned something about too much of a good thing being a bad thing when it comes to fiber. I have no idea what the basis of this is.