Obama effigy from tree on University of Kentucky campus

[Ashliana]

Apparently in response to the effigy of Sarah Palin (http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?t=37242) in West Hollywood, someone erected an effigy of a hanged Barack Obama (http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D944CKD01&show_article=1) at Lexington's University of Kentucky.

As mentioned in RC's article, the symbolism of a hanging African American in a southern state is, to some people, a much stronger message, more hate-filled and racially driven than of Palin.

As a sidenote, both of my parents went to the University of Kentucky. I can see what would drive someone to do it, especially in response to the Palin stunt. It just shows remarkably poor judgment, in my opinion, but as said in RC's thread; political speech is (and should be) the most highly protected kind.

What're your thoughts?

[Xaerve]

Both are not funny for the same reason. Spinning it as a race issue is missing the whole point.

[Gan]

As equally stupid as the Palin effigy.

[Jorddyn]

Freedom of speech, freedom of stupidity.

Doesn't really help Kentucky with their image.

[Sean of the Thread]

I thought Kentucky was a highschool after the whooping UF put on them the other day.


Seriously tho.. there was more uproar over Joe Pa's effigy of a ref on his front porch ffs.

[Keller]

Freedom of speech, freedom of stupidity.

Doesn't really help Kentucky with their image.

At least it was an effigy . . .

I'm just say'n, it is Kentucky afterall.

[Parkbandit]

Apparently in response to the effigy of Sarah Palin (http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?t=37242) in West Hollywood, someone erected an effigy of a hanged Barack Obama (http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D944CKD01&show_article=1) at Lexington's University of Kentucky.

As mentioned in RC's article, the symbolism of a hanging African American in a southern state is, to some people, a much stronger message, more hate-filled and racially driven than of Palin.

As a sidenote, both of my parents went to the University of Kentucky. I can see what would drive someone to do it, especially in response to the Palin stunt. It just shows remarkably poor judgment, in my opinion, but as said in RC's thread; political speech is (and should be) the most highly protected kind.

What're your thoughts?


It is pretty tacky, but it does say something about us as a whole when this kind of story reaches national-scale political news. Even ugly, sometimes even hateful speech, should be protected.

We live in a society free enough that a church like the Westboro Baptist Church can campaign for what they believe in, even if most people see it as misguided and dangerous.

[Gan]

It is pretty tacky, but it does say something about us as a whole when this kind of story reaches national-scale political news. Even ugly, sometimes even hateful speech, should be protected.

We live in a society free enough that a church like the Westboro Baptist Church can campaign for what they believe in, even if most people see it as misguided and dangerous.

As posted in the Palin effigy thread:

It is pretty tacky, but it does say something about us as a whole when this kind of story reaches national-scale political news. Even ugly, sometimes even hateful speech, should be protected.

We live in a society free enough that a church like the Westboro Baptist Church can campaign for what they believe in, even if most people see it as misguided and dangerous.


I cant believe I missed this.

:rofl:

Good one PB.

:clap:

[Keller]

Yes. ParkBandit is the wit of our age.. :snicker:

The image of a black effigy hanging, especially in the south, conjures up different imagery than Palin from a tree in West Hollywood and McCain coming out of the chimney. Not saying that it shouldn't fall under protected speech, but it's definitely more inflammatory than the other stunt in California.

I disagree. For multiple reasons.

First, the Barack hanging was a stunt in response to Palin. It was pulled by some college kids and would have been done even if the candidate was white.

Second, an effigy of a hanging is equally abhorant regardless of who is on the business end of the rope. The fact is that the response of "hang 'em" to a disagreement with an individual on matters of public policy or otherwise should be considered inflammatory. Period.

[Solkern]

I love it, it's automatically "inflammatory" because his black, and no other reason.
race plays no issue!

[Sean]

I love it, it's automatically "inflammatory" because his black, and no other reason.
race plays no issue!

Who made that claim?

[Paradii]

Nevermind, I skipped over her post.

[RichardCranium]

Who made that claim?


Ashliana.

[DeV]

As equally stupid as the Palin effigy.Even more stupid because it violates the school's code of ethics. If students want to pull these kind of stunts and exercise their free speech or make whatever point it is their attempting to make, they could at least read up on their school code first. There's always the option of doing it on your private property, but a college campus? That's just asking for it.

[Parkbandit]

Yes. ParkBandit is the wit of our age.. :snicker:

The image of a black effigy hanging, especially in the south, conjures up different imagery than Palin from a tree in West Hollywood and McCain coming out of the chimney. Not saying that it shouldn't fall under protected speech, but it's definitely more inflammatory than the other stunt in California.


Just another example of your (OMG I AM GOING TO USE "THAT" WORD AGAIN) hypocrisy. Hanging Governor Palin mannequin is something that should be protected.. but OMG, YOU HANG AN OBAMA MANNEQUIN AND YOU ARE A RACIST HATEMONGER WHO NEEDS TO BE SHUT DOWN ASAFP!

[Gan]

I disagree. For multiple reasons.

First, the Barack hanging was a stunt in response to Palin. It was pulled by some college kids and would have been done even if the candidate was white.

Second, an effigy of a hanging is equally abhorant regardless of who is on the business end of the rope. The fact is that the response of "hang 'em" to a disagreement with an individual on matters of public policy or otherwise should be considered inflammatory. Period.


Let's see.. why would an effigy of a black man hanging on a noose from a tree in Kentucky have anything to do with race?

Because people bring up "the race card," naturally! Stupid.

Dismissing it as simply "a political counterpoint" to the Palin effigy in California assumes that everyone seeing the Obama effigy knows the story about the other one, which is a huge assumption.

To anyone that hadn't heard the story, all they see is a hanging effigy of the first major-party backed black candidate hanging from a tree in a southern state. Race is relevant, as it pertains to the history of the area. Pretending that it doesn't is equally mindless as it is injecting it places where it holds no meaning, as you're trying to label this incident as.

I'm in agreement with Keller on this.

[Solkern]

What ashliana fails to realize is

my first thought of the hanging was not OMG RACE
was more along the lines of, someoen did it to Palin, so someone did it to obama, color means nothing to me, you juat assume since he's black ITS OMG RACE WARS!

I'm suprised you didn't bring up the OMG the PALIN EFFIGY! it's because she's a WOMEN!

stfu ashliana

[Gan]

Funny how Assliana will argue with Solkern and PB and not Keller, when all 3 are saying the same thing.

:lol:

[Keller]

Again, a faulty analysis by a faulty mind. Saying that the Obama effigy has racial implications that the Palin effigy didn't is not hypocritical. They're different acts. The race of one target--Palin--has no history of being hung from trees, nor was it in an area with a history of doing so. The race of the other, Obama, was done in an area with a tragic and racist history of doing so. See how that is? I'm guessing you don't, since you've already had your gallon of partisan kool-aid for today.

Both should be (possibly, depending on the intent) protected as political speech, as I said right off the bat. But they convey different messages. Exactly what is hypocritical? Simply an excuse to shell out your favorite word?

Hanging an evangelical Christian in West Hollywood is JUST as symbolic as hanging a black man in the south.

Both can be seen as hate crimes.

[Parkbandit]

Funny how Assliana will argue with Solkern and PB and not Keller, when all 3 are saying the same thing.

:lol:


Fuck, even I'm forced to agree with Keller.

Way to go Twinkles...

[Gan]

Except that I addressed his argument as well? Reading comprehension, Gan.

Yes, you did address his argument.

But you're being passive/aggressive in not responding directly to his post and yet you're responding individually to PB's and Solkern's.

THAT is my observation.

Reading comprehension indeed. ;)

[Gan]

All I'm saying is that one has racial implications, and the other doesn't. The first might have religious implications, ideological implications, etc. But the two separate acts, regardless of your stance on them, still carry very different meanings to potential observers.

I am not defending one and lampooning the other, as PB would just love me to be doing. They simply carry different connotations.


And again you're ASSUMING that everyone who saw the Obama effigy would automatically have prior knowledge of the Palin incident. That assumption makes you stupid.

Yes, we know what you're really trying to say.

[Keller]

All I'm saying is that one has racial implications, and the other doesn't. The first might have religious implications, ideological implications, etc. But the two separate acts, regardless of your stance on them, still carry very different meanings to potential observers.

I am not defending one and lampooning the other, as PB would just love me to be doing. They simply carry different connotations.

Again. I see the DNC candidate hanging from a tree and you see a black man.

If anything, the fact that there wasn't a response a day or two earlier to the Palin-effigy news can be seen as having equal racial implications because everyone was afraid it'd elicit the response you gave.

[Atlanteax]

Oh, check out what University of Texas A&M did as "Anti-Obama"

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2008/10/30/sigman.anti.obama.rally.kbtx

[Solkern]

Again. I see the DNC candidate hanging from a tree and you see a black man.

If anything, the fact that there wasn't a response a day or two earlier to the Palin-effigy news can be seen as having equal racial implications because everyone was afraid it'd elicit the response you gave.


exactly, I agree, I don't see a black man hanging, I see a democratic person hanging, in repsonse to the Palin hanging

Ashliana, my advice to you

go to southparkstudios.com
watch a southpark episode on the SOUTH PARK FLAG

maybe then you'll realize a thing or too

PS: it is a damn funny episode to boot
edited: let's say Hillary won the Democratic candiancy, and someoen hanged an eggify of her, would you be here SCREAMING ITS CAUSE SHE'S A WOMEN??

[Keller]

But you are yourself affirming that race is at least on some level, a factor. If the same thing had happened in the last election, where all the candidates were caucasian--seeing Cheney strung up (especially with his pop-culture identity as the "evil puppetmaster") would've been very differently perceived.

Using a noose for political commentary in this election provoked the racial discussion you're referring to. The only difference is that while the Palin story made some national airtime, the acts themselves of a white woman and black man being strung up, especially in the south, carry different connotations. The effect, intent, etc, are arguable.. but the very reaction we've seen from all the news outlets, the protests at UK itself from both staff and student body, shows how much more power the symbolism of a black man being strung up has.

Race is a factor as much as age, sex, freckles, or any other identifiable feature is a factor. The power you give that factor is a choice you and others make.

You've got to take this in context. Had it been the first effigy -- then yes, I'd say race was more likely than not a factor. But because it came on the heels of national news that a similar effigy had been hung in WeHo, I find that to temper the racist connotations.

[Gan]

That's what happens when you have multiple people running multiple arguments at the same time, Gan. Welcome to the PC.

No, its you being called out for picking and choosing a)your arguments and b)the people you're arguing with.

:)

[Gan]

edited: let's say Hillary won the Democratic candiancy, and someoen hanged an eggify of her, would you be here SCREAMING ITS CAUSE SHE'S A WOMEN??

No, she already missed that opportunity with the Palin effigy thread.

[Solkern]

No, its you being called out for picking and choosing a)your arguments and b)the people you're arguing with.

:)

and C) all the multiple people are on the same side of one single argument

[TheEschaton]

LOL, stupid fucking kids. It's an inappropriate response to an inappropriate act. End of story.

-TheE-

[Solkern]

is KIERPHE Ashliana?

[Gan]

I responded to his points. I just didn't respond to him directly. Keller isn't the type to argue for arguing's sake and just go on and on and on because someone he doesn't like disagrees with him.



While I thought it was tacky, I didn't really see a "women's issue" there. However, numerous women's groups have disagreed and called the public display of violence against women appalling.

Quoting this before it disappears.

:lol:

[Solkern]

Quoting this before it disappears.

:lol:



no no the REAL funny part is, when you go through KIERPHE'S post

she'll post as ashliana, and change accounts and suport ashliana from a different account :D

[Keller]

While I thought it was tacky, I didn't really see a "women's issue" there. However, numerous women's groups have disagreed and called the public display of violence against women appalling.

Homosexuals perpetrating violence against women.

That's so funny! (That's for you, Rob)

[Gan]

Aww, damn. You caught me! Careless. Booo!

This is Backlash funny.

And Backlash sad.

[Gan]

no no the REAL funny part is, when you go through KIERPHE'S post

she'll post as ashliana, and change accounts and suport ashliana from a different account :D

Yea, I remember Rathain/Lassiter501 being called out on that too. He quit posting in the politics folder soon afterwards.

:lol:

[Solkern]

Yea, I remember Rathain/Lassiter501 being called out on that too. He quit posting in the politics folder soon afterwards.

:lol:

I wonder if she gives herself rep too

"good post ashliana, you really told those morons! -Kierphe"

[Gan]

I wonder if she gives herself rep too

"good post ashliana, you really told those morons! -Kierphe"

Heh, I'm willing to bet she double negatives rep on people. ;)

[Gan]

Again.. doesn't count when given by people with such low post counts.

A mere technicality.

[Keller]

Well, as you've said.. you have to look at the context. They also had McCain climbing out of the chimney. Surprising, though--that the people who strung it up (a gay couple, I believe) wasn't more focused in, especially in light of the heated prop. 8 battle in CA.

I agree. That's why I said it was just as symbolic as hanging an effigy of a black man in the south.

[Tea & Strumpets]

Um.. Okay? Feel free to go through them.

http://www.forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?t=36242

Here's a thread where you quoted and agreed with yourself. Funny stuff.

[Keller]

http://www.forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?t=36242

Here's a thread where you quoted and agreed with yourself. Funny stuff.

:rofl:

[Keller]

This thread is about to get epic.

[Atlanteax]

*drum-rolls*

[Gan]

Have you seen Sarah come out and say much at all to the press? She spoke at the convention and two interviews. She may not be otherwise in the national spotlight like the other 3 are as senators, but she basically only comes out to spew the GOP platform when necessary.

I prefer an independent mind like Biden's that can actually disagree with his running mate.. Why else would someone like Obama pick Biden if not to consider his greater experience?

You say "way to show unity." I say an identical, completely in agreement running mate makes no sense to a campaign.. it does not add anything at all to the ticket.

Agreed.. Especially considering Biden and Obama were disagreeing long before they BECAME "Obama-Biden."

LOL

Farewell thread in 3.... 2...... 1....

[Alfster]

That is just plain sad.

[RichardCranium]

And those posts are two minutes apart. That's awesome.

[Solkern]

That is pretty bad.

[Keller]

At least Backlash was just trying to recreate himself to escape the weight of his own reputation.

Using your second account to agree with your first on an online BBS is pretty pathetic.

[Sean]

I also post as Keller when I'm bored.

[Atlanteax]

Okay, I have to confess... I am ClydeR

[Solkern]

damnit sean, you need to quote yourself then, then agree with yourself, then admit what you are doin!

[Jorddyn]

We should have a "most likely" and "most unlikely" alts thread... could be interesting :)

[Solkern]

Well start it up!

[Jorddyn]

Well start it up!


Done. Now go post something so I can feel loved.

[Keller]

I also post as Keller when I'm bored.

You're not black, either?

[Clove]

LOL

Farewell thread in 3.... 2...... 1....
It just earned Itself about 30 months of FAIL for that one. I'm waiting for the "I never said I wasn't both posters" rationalization post!

http://api.ning.com/files/XDhIWpkRMRf*6P*Hlsx*afKFp4iFu9OsVogduuiAt-U8DOJyOYdeClbVrRp-6QZkA37Ls*vEXYakFnLT3f7pm6xgvCC1AF9C/epicFAIL.jpg

[AnticorRifling]

I can understand alts in a text/video game, but on a message board? You just put yourself in the same group as SeanDigital, you are with friends now.

[Mighty Nikkisaurus]

LOL

Farewell thread in 3.... 2...... 1....


:lol:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2312/2242219728_831abd8f84.jpg

[Parkbandit]

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e6/belike53/Assliana.jpg

[Parkbandit]

It just earned Itself about 30 months of FAIL for that one. I'm waiting for the "I never said I wasn't both posters" rationalization post!


Or the "You assumed it wasn't me, so you are to blame, not me!"

God.. I almost ALMOST feel bad for it right now. I'm going to get my new "Save Ashliana" drive going after her farewell forever post.

[Solkern]

PB, I wish that was smaller, it'd so be my new avatar.

[Daniel]

Lol.

Internet: Serious fucking business.

[Parkbandit]

PB, I wish that was smaller, it'd so be my new avatar.

Yea, it didn't work well smaller. And it's such an epic failure.. it needed to be big.

[Mighty Nikkisaurus]

http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/7020/altseb2.jpg

[Solkern]

http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/7020/altseb2.jpg



FUCKING WIN

[Some Rogue]

Yea, it didn't work well smaller. And it's such an epic failure.. it needed to be big.

That's what your wife said about you...

[Parkbandit]

That's what your wife said about you...

You son of a..

[CrystalTears]

At least it's not denying that it make a fuckup of gargantuan proportions.

Apparently you have no idea how creating an alt to support your own bullshit is frowned upon here. Oh but you don't care what others think of you. Only what you think of you. Circle jerks indeed.

[Keller]

Frowned upon?

It's hilarious. I don't care if you create 1000 alts to support yourself. It just gets funny (at 1), then sad (at 2-5), then funny again (around 10), and then annoying (from 10-1000).

[Parkbandit]

Holy fuck.

I didn't even think YOU had so little self respect. It was bad enough when you were pretending to be a girl.. then pretending to be another poster.. NOW actually using the other login account to find someone who agrees with you.

The level of epic failure just got even more epic.

[CrystalTears]

Frowned upon?

It's hilarious. I don't care if you create 1000 alts to support yourself. It just gets funny (at 1), then sad (at 2-5), then funny again (around 10), and then annoying (from 10-1000).

Yeah you're right. It's if it's that bored that it needs to keep going, then it's just amusement for the rest of us.

[Clove]

Yeah you're right. It's if it's that bored that it needs to keep going, then it's just amusement for the rest of us.It's almost as if It studied Backlash... SeanyDigital... Ilvane and said to Itself, "Oh no, I can fail harder than that..."

Hello comedy gold.

Goodbye any chance of us taking It seriously ever again.

[Keller]

Yeah you're right. It's if it's that bored that it needs to keep going, then it's just amusement for the rest of us.

The PC periodically needs a dose of good ole' fashioned drama. It just adds to the long legacy of sociopaths who frequent here.

[CrystalTears]

Goodbye any chance of us taking It seriously ever again.
When did we take it seriously??

[Clove]

When did we take it seriously??There was a chance, we MIGHT take It seriously one day (even if we didn't presently). Chance all gone.

[Mighty Nikkisaurus]

Thems fighting words.

Clove told Chuck Norris he doesn't love him, and Chuck Norris slit his wrists.

[Sean]

Frowned upon?

It's hilarious. I don't care if you create 1000 alts to support yourself. It just gets funny (at 1), then sad (at 2-5), then funny again (around 10), and then annoying (from 10-1000).

Although the circumstances are kinda funny at 1 it's also annoying because now you have to deal with the 50 off topic bash session posts everytime he posts.

[Tea & Strumpets]

Although the circumstances are kinda funny at 1 it's also annoying because now you have to deal with the 50 off topic bash session posts everytime he posts.

I'm pretty much always annoyed with alts on a message board. I can see doing it for some reasons (if you wanted to sell Gemstone stuff on a second account, or if you wanted to tell a story about banging some chick in a wheel chair after she pissed in your car), but I think most of us have enough anonymity here already.

[Some Rogue]

Thems fighting words.

Clove told Chuck Norris he doesn't love him, and Chuck Norris slit his wrists.

Unpossible! The razor blades would break!

[Parkbandit]

Although the circumstances are kinda funny at 1 it's also annoying because now you have to deal with the 50 off topic bash session posts everytime he posts.

My goal is to account for 49 of them.

[Sean]

I'm pretty much always annoyed with alts on a message board. I can see doing it for some reasons (if you wanted to sell Gemstone stuff on a second account, or if you wanted to tell a story about banging some chick in a wheel chair after she pissed in your car), but I think most of us have enough anonymity here already.

I had 1 alt when I was a mod because some people were incapable of separating what I said as a mod from what I would say as a poster. But honestly it got tiring after like 2 posts so I gave up.

[Tea & Strumpets]

I had 1 alt when I was a mod because some people were incapable of separating what I said as a mod from what I would say as a poster. But honestly it got tiring after like 2 posts so I gave up.

I accept your confession and find your reasoning valid. You are absolved of this particular crime, but there is still the matter of you trying to hide your true identity by switching your posting name from Tijay to Sean.

[Stanley Burrell]

I accept your confession and find your reasoning valid. You are absolved of this particular crime, but there is still the matter of you trying to hide your true identity by switching your posting name from Tijay to Sean.

Tijay was his slave name, you racist :mad:

[Sean]

I accept your confession and find your reasoning valid. You are absolved of this particular crime, but there is still the matter of you trying to hide your true identity by switching your posting name from Tijay to Sean.

Snitch!

[Tea & Strumpets]

Snitch!

I apologize. I am just angry and have been lashing out at everyone at home and work, and I'll tell you why. A few days ago somebody gave me negative reputation points for a post made a year ago in a thread that hasn't been bumped since! Dis-re-spect.

[Clove]

Although the circumstances are kinda funny at 1 it's also annoying because now you have to deal with the 50 off topic bash session posts everytime he posts.Yeah, except It's track record is such that no matter what, It would have found a way to inspire 50 off-topic bashes everytime it posts. This is simply the latest (and greatest) Fail.

[Gan]

I apologize. I am just angry and have been lashing out at everyone at home and work, and I'll tell you why. A few days ago somebody gave me negative reputation points for a post made a year ago in a thread that hasn't been bumped since! Dis-re-spect.

Sounds like someone was clearing the timer that will not allow repeat reps on a specific individual without first giving reps to others.

If my theory is correct, when someone gets the error message "You must spread some reputation around..." or however its worded, that means reputation must be given out to others before it can be given again to the person that error message occurs in.

We need a name for this, like dumping or purging.

It does kind of suck that you got negative rep. The person at least could have given positive reputation if they were simply purging the buffer.
(now that sounds dirty!)

[Tea & Strumpets]

Sounds like someone was clearing the timer that will not allow repeat reps on a specific individual without first giving reps to others.

If my theory is correct, when someone gets the error message "You must spread some reputation around..." or however its worded, that means reputation must be given out to others before it can be given again to the person that error message occurs in.

We need a name for this, like dumping or purging.

It does kind of suck that you got negative rep. The person at least could have given positive reputation if they were simply purging the buffer.
(now that sounds dirty!)

Whoever it was shouldn't be able to post here any more for mechanics abuse (handing out negative rep for posts before the rep system was out). I've sent multiple complaints to Kranar about it and it's like I'm talking to a wall. I should give him some negative reputation points and see how he likes it.

[Gan]

Whoever it was shouldn't be able to post here any more for mechanics abuse (handing out negative rep for posts before the rep system was out). I've sent multiple complaints to Kranar about it and it's like I'm talking to a wall. I should give him some negative reputation points and see how he likes it.

Continuing this convo here:
http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?p=831139#post831139

[Mighty Nikkisaurus]

Whoever it was shouldn't be able to post here any more for mechanics abuse (handing out negative rep for posts before the rep system was out). I've sent multiple complaints to Kranar about it and it's like I'm talking to a wall. I should give him some negative reputation points and see how he likes it.

You can't, his rep is turned off.

[Clove]

Yeah, except It's track record is such that no matter what, It would have found a way to inspire 50 off-topic bashes everytime it posts. This is simply the latest (and greatest) Fail.Agreed.

[Parkbandit]

Agreed.


HAHAHAA! U FORGOT 2 SIGN IN UR OTHER ACCOUNT!

FAILURE!

[Gan]

Yeah, except It's track record is such that no matter what, It would have found a way to inspire 50 off-topic bashes everytime it posts. This is simply the latest (and greatest) Fail.

Agreed.
I see whut U did thurz.

[Gelston]

I hate that I missed this thread.

[Parkbandit]

This is my favorite thread on this forum.

[Tgo01]

I was hoping to read all of the posts of Ashliana agreeing with his other account but I guess he deleted all of the posts on his other account :(

[Gelston]

I was hoping to read all of the posts of Ashliana agreeing with his other account but I guess he deleted all of the posts on his other account :(

The big one was him forgetting to switch accounts. I think I may vaguely remember this, then again, I have no posts in this thread until today so it could have been someone else.

[Tgo01]

The big one was him forgetting to switch accounts. I think I may vaguely remember this, then again, I have no posts in this thread until today so it could have been someone else.

But they're all gone now :(

We should have a mod undelete them all so we can have days of laughter.

[RichardCranium]

The big one was him forgetting to switch accounts. I think I may vaguely remember this, then again, I have no posts in this thread until today so it could have been someone else.

Probably your other account.

[Gelston]

Probably your other account.

Yeah, I keep forgetting to log off my cwolff account.