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Pax
01-11-2004, 06:38 PM
New to this whole rogue/archery thing, is this decent?

at level 0), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Armor Use..........................| 10 2
Combat Maneuvers...................| 10 2
Ranged Weapons.....................| 10 2
Ambush.............................| 10 2
Physical Fitness...................| 10 2
Dodging............................| 10 2
Disarming Traps....................| 15 3
Picking Locks......................| 15 3
Stalking and Hiding................| 15 3
Perception.........................| 15 3
Climbing...........................| 5 1
Swimming...........................| 5 1
Pickpocketing......................| 15 3

rmal (Bonus) ... Enhanced (Bonus)
Strength (STR): 70 (10) ... 70 (10)
Constitution (CON): 50 (0) ... 50 (0)
Dexterity (DEX): 90 (25) ... 90 (25)
Agility (AGI): 90 (35) ... 90 (35)
Discipline (DIS): 95 (7) ... 95 (7)
Aura (AUR): 85 (22) ... 85 (22)
Logic (LOG): 40 (-5) ... 40 (-5)
Intuition (INT): 40 (-5) ... 40 (-5)
Wisdom (WIS): 50 (0) ... 50 (0)
Influence (INF): 50 (10) ... 50 (10)

Any thoughts? Add/change anything? This is also my first real character in GS4, so... hrmph. Will I be able to pick well--do I need to raise my mental stats?

Artha
01-11-2004, 06:45 PM
This doesn't really give a feel...what are your over all plans?

Are you going to 2x armor until you get fit for brig? chain?
1x swimming/climbing for life? Till 20? Till 40?
2.5x or 3x picking/disarming/perception?
etc.

Pax
01-11-2004, 06:48 PM
Sorry, was just lookined for general advice as I haven't put much thought into this character yet. Probably should've been my first step!

As to your questions, likely 2x armour up until chain, I should think? I'm not sure what most rogues prefer.

1x climbing/swimming for life, just to improve upon it, and they are at least somewhat important for redux?

And is there any benefit to 2.5'xing the picking skills, other than the free TP's? I had intended to continue 3x'ing, but I'm not sure about all of the changes.

Kitsun
01-11-2004, 07:04 PM
Climbing and swimming don't add to redux anymore, not even as tertiary members.

Physical training is now the only primary, I would recommend trying to keep 1x in it if not more.

If you 2.5x in picking skills and go for lore, it'll make you a solid like-age picker.

Pax
01-11-2004, 07:37 PM
All right then... I'll probably stop swimming at 10 ranks, and climbing at 20? Does that sound appropriate?

Do most rogues go for lore/is it a necessity to pick higher level boxes?

Edaarin
01-11-2004, 07:38 PM
There's no way you can afford all that. The skill costs for level 0 are messed up because of interlevel training, but to train like that, it would cost 81/49.

Baseline training, for an archer is as follows.

1x armor
2x ranged
1x PT
2x dodge (minimum, recommend 3x)
2x ambush
2x perception
2x hiding (minimum, 3x if you want to snipe)

That plan will cost you 32/15. If you add in the extra dodge and hide rank, that gets bumped to 44/23. So you'll have room to add 2x pick/disarm, which will bump it to 50/29. That'll leave perhaps 10 mental training points left over, which you can dump into tertiaries like scroll reading, magic item, climb, swim, or save up for lores. That's not even taking CM into account.

[Edited on 1-12-2004 by Edaarin]

Pax
01-11-2004, 08:01 PM
Wow, that's some annoying bug! Thanks though, Edaarin. And here I thought this would be easy...

I'll work around your plan then.

I altered my stats slightly, as well.

Strength (STR): 80 (15) ... 80 (15)
Constitution (CON): 60 (5) ... 60 (5)
Dexterity (DEX): 90 (25) ... 90 (25)
Agility (AGI): 90 (35) ... 90 (35)
Discipline (DIS): 90 (5) ... 90 (5)
Aura (AUR): 70 (15) ... 70 (15)
Logic (LOG): 50 (0) ... 50 (0)
Intuition (INT): 50 (0) ... 50 (0)
Wisdom (WIS): 60 (5) ... 60 (5)
Influence (INF): 20 (-5) ... 20 (-5)

Sorry for all the questions, this is kinda... overwhelming. Is lock/disarm lore on scrolls just as effective as cast?

StrayRogue
01-11-2004, 08:09 PM
3x Picking is usually adequate to get most your own boxes. However, lores will benefit this as well. 402 is a good spell to have anyway, as it helps you aim. No idea as for the scrolls. All my pickers characters have the lores I am afraid.