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StrayRogue
01-11-2004, 03:08 PM
At the request of some that I'm not slamming the American Government enough, I thought I'd tuck in this little nugget that I'm sure you're ALL aware of already.

Though neglected by major media in the United States, international news sources report that French law enforcement authorities have made Vice President Dick Cheney the target of a criminal investigation for his role in a massive bribery scandal during his time as CEO of Halliburton. Le Figaro, one of France's biggest (and most conservative) newspapers, reports "an investigative judge is looking into allegations of corruption during construction of a natural gas complex in Nigeria by Halliburton and" a French oil company. According to a gas and oil trade publication (picked up by the international AP newswire on October 11, 2003) the judge is "looking into who may have benefited from nearly $200 million in potentially illegal commissions allegedly handed out from 1990 to 2002." In May, Halliburton admitted that, under Cheney's stewardship, it paid "$2.4 million in bribes to Nigerian officials to get favorable tax treatment." Halliburton now says it is cooperating with a simultaneous review by the Security and Exchange Commission.


The London Financial Times reports the investigation specifically focuses on the criminal charges of "misuse of corporate funds" and "corruption of foreign public agents." The Sydney Australia Morning Herald reports the investigative judge is specifically targeting Cheney for his "alleged complicity in the abuse of corporate assets."


Though the investigation is being spearheaded by French law enforcement, the UK Guardian notes, it would be prosecuted under international laws agreed to by the United States in a 35-nation treaty signed in 1997, meaning the consequences could be very real. The treaty, "under the auspices of the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, aims to fight corporate attempts to buy the favors of public authorities abroad." Not coincidentally, the London Financial Times points out that the Bush Administration is using similar agreements to aggressively "seek the extradition and pressing claims against senior French finance industry executives connected with the Credit Lyonnais purchase of Executive Life, the failed Californian insurer."

Rastaman
01-11-2004, 03:16 PM
ALL US government offcials fall into one of these categories:

Liar
Biggot
Crook
Facist
Moron

Some (most) fall into more than one category. This being said the fact that Cheney is under criminal investigation is not surprising in the slightest.

The Cat In The Hat
01-11-2004, 03:24 PM
Originally posted by Rastaman
ALL US government offcials fall into one of these categories:

Liar
Biggot
Crook
Facist
Moron

Some (most) fall into more than one category. This being said the fact that Cheney is under criminal investigation is not surprising in the slightest.

You forgot Pedophile.

Cat

Rastaman
01-11-2004, 03:27 PM
Thanks for reminding me, I also forgot Assface.

Ravenstorm
01-11-2004, 04:24 PM
I'm not surprised. I'd love to see that in the news here. What I wouldn't give to have him found guilty before the elections.

Raven

01-11-2004, 04:32 PM
Why? It doesn't matter its in a foreign country. Henry Kissinger has been indicted in abunch of cou ntries, the solution? Don't go there.

Rastaman
01-11-2004, 04:35 PM
Just cause it's in another country doesn't change the fact that he's a criminal.

I rob a bank in Sri Lanka. I'm a bank robber where ever I go.

01-11-2004, 04:36 PM
True enough, but then again you can't be invested in Morocco and imprisoned without extradiciton agreements.

StrayRogue
01-11-2004, 05:24 PM
Not saying no one in the cabinet over here isn't free of convictions, but personally I wouldn't want someone charged with something such as this in the 2nd most powerful job in the world. I certainly wouldn't vote for a person who wanted him either.

Varsus
01-11-2004, 05:46 PM
(Not saying no one in the cabinet over here isn't free of convictions, but personally I wouldn't want someone charged with something such as this in the 2nd most powerful job in the world. I certainly wouldn't vote for a person who wanted him either. )

Thats saying that the President and others really do have the power and are not just pawns like the rest of us.

-Varsus (Conspiracy is everywhere)

01-11-2004, 06:13 PM
Perfectly reasonable stance Strayrogue, but then again i'd have to wonder if you'd want him regardless.

StrayRogue
01-11-2004, 06:15 PM
Bush? Heh, him hiring a criminal Vice President would not be the sole reason for me not voting for him, no ;)

Latrinsorm
01-11-2004, 07:03 PM
It's a Democratic plot.

HarmNone
01-11-2004, 07:58 PM
Heh. I normally stay out of these political arguments, but I could not resist this one, I am afraid.

I am not a fan of Cheney, and I detest, loathe and abhor the Shrub! Nevertheless, there is something that needs to be considered in this particular scenario.

In many countries, the payment of bribes...baksheesh, whatever you want to call it...is not considered illegal or even poor form. It is a normal part of doing business. Businesses (and governments, for that matter) in these countries do not understand our aversion to it. To them, it is a matter of course.

For that reason, many so-called civilized (or First World, if you like) businesses could be cited for payoffs exactly like the one Halliburton is catching hell for here. To put it bluntly, outside our "utopian paradises" things are often done very, very differently.

I am not condoning the behavior, nor judging it in any way. My culture finds it deplorable. However, all cultures are not MY culture.

HarmNone on international hankey-pankey

Gan
01-12-2004, 04:18 AM
Originally posted by Latrinsorm
It's a Democratic plot.

Exactly! Al Gore did create the internet so they all could keep on top of what the Big W and all the other non-cigar smoking right wingers are up to...

As my freshman political science professor so eloquently stated... "ALL politicians lie."

Think about it this way, if we didnt have the politicians to whine about, these boards would be filled with more warclaididiothm whine posts...

:thumbsdown:

crazymage
01-12-2004, 08:44 AM
I'd rather have Cheney running our country then Bush.


~Democrat vote for kerry!

Latrinsorm
01-12-2004, 11:09 AM
Originally posted by crazymage
~Democrat vote for kerry!
A vote for Kerry is a vote for Kusinich.