10x DB boots for sale

[vasplieon]

After using these for 10+ years I have decided that the current value of these warrant selling them considering my current playing habits. I am not interested in silver offers.

10x DB

some black leather boots

$1500.00

Thanks
Semtexx

[Summertime]

LOL Brielus!

[Asha]

LOL Brielus!

Pillock.

[Belnia]

I remember paying 85m for a +40 pin.

[Renian]

You'd think Brielus would indeed be all over these things.

[Kalayil]

In after Bri-- ah, what the hell. A text-based set of boots for $1500. My god.

[Drunken Durfin]

In after Bri-- ah, what the hell. A text-based set of boots for $1500. My god.

You're new here, aren't you?

[NocturnalRob]

You're new here, aren't you?

hahaha

L2GS4

[Renian]

In after Bri-- ah, what the hell. A text-based set of boots for $1500. My god.

It's essentially 166.666m for a going rate of $9/m. That's probably the better way to look at it.

[Morrff]

Too many yuppies play this game, the price will more then likely be paid...

It's always amazed me what people will pay for items in an online game.

I hesitate from saying "Text based game". Which raises a question, not having any to no experience with WoW, do they have a market for items as well? I think they have a market for gold, I thought I remember someone saying that once?

Sorry for the semi-off topic post, welcome for the free bumps!

[Stanley Burrell]

I hesitate from saying "Text based game". Which raises a question, not having any to no experience with WoW, do they have a market for items as well? I think they have a market for gold, I thought I remember someone saying that once?

I think WoW has more Chinese players amidst its database, which inherently reduces the price of e-goods.

Why else would they be hosting the Olympics?

...

To the OP, $1500 the going or MB?

[Asha]

1500 is massive pricetastic.

[crb]

I paid 110 million for a pin worn not that many years ago.

[NocturnalRob]

1500 is massive pricetastic.

that's exactly what tsin is charging for his boots. so go figure.

[Khariz]

I actually think it's the proper price right now, with what silvers are worth.

I have to explain this to people all the time, but items are worth what they are worth, despite the value of silvers tanking. While that may not be true of something common like a vultite falchion, if you want 10x DB, you are gonna pay what the market dictates.

With Pin worn, or non-essential slots like boots, you are looking at 150 mil at a minimum right now. Good price, I think.

[Brielus]

that maks my nuts go crossed

[NocturnalRob]

Good price, I think.

says the guy who already owns a 10x db item and is looking to maintain market stability...

[Khariz]

says the guy who already owns a 10x db item and is looking to maintain market stability...

I don't care abotu market stability, honestly. Like I just said...items are worth the same, despite the worth of silvers.

Nothing of mine is for sale anyway, so why would I care? I'm saying that in today's market, that's a good price. If you find one cheaper, I'll give you an cookie.

[Esam]

Only if enough people quit will the VALUE (in terms of $$$) of items actually drop. It seems like a lot of people have quit, so I'm surprised that prices haven't dropped a little. But I guess those playing have more characters to equip still or something.

[Khariz]

Only if enough people quit will the VALUE (in terms of $$$) of items actually drop. It seems like a lot of people have quit, so I'm surprised that prices haven't dropped a little. But I guess those playing have more characters to equip still or something.

Prices go UP as this type of item becomes more scarce. Demand for high end items like DB doesn't decrease with the playerbase. The people who stick around are the hardcore addicts that want stuff like this.

[Morrff]

Only if enough people quit will the VALUE (in terms of $$$) of items actually drop. It seems like a lot of people have quit, so I'm surprised that prices haven't dropped a little. But I guess those playing have more characters to equip still or something.

I disagree, it would not only take a lot of people to quit but would also in turn take the market to be flooded with these items(Which you might have intended with your point) or have someone severely desperate to get money that day.. OR OR the game to actually announce the closing date of GS.

Not to mention the people that are quiting and selling out normally(Unless attempting to remove addiction/temptation to play) are not loaded with doe to spend on lines of text in the game, though I'm sure some people are crazy and put purchases on their CC's

Granted if enough people quit, and they all had sold their DB's then sure. But a lot of people take their items to the grave with them and I've not seen a 10x DB be release in almost what 8yrs?(In fact I cannot remember the last time). Plenty of sub-10x ones have been made, but nothing over 6x that I know of.

[SHAFT]

Where does a 10x DB item come from? Most of them have generic names, makes me think GM's make em and make them look like regular items to hide them. Is that accurate?

[Khariz]

Where does a 10x DB item come from? Most of them have generic names, makes me think GM's make em and make them look like regular items to hide them. Is that accurate?

Hell, most of em came from a time where you could actually enchant non-armor piece items. Items were flagged as armor, even though they weren't, and they could be enchanted by a wizard.

That's a big oversimplification, but you get the point.

[Fallen]

Low enchant DBs were released a long, long time ago, then wizards enchanted them up. They have since banned enchanting DB. That is why most DB you see is 10x. People got those bitches maxed out.

[Belnia]

Haven't seen a single item over +10 as a DB released in recent memory. There were a few at the Ebon Gate 2006 auction, ranging from +2 to +10.

[SHAFT]

As awesome as a 10x DB item is, seems like it'd take some fun away from the game. Give me a 10x item and I won't die right now. I wouldn't even get touched hunting.

But on the same side that isn't a bad thing.

[Morrff]

Watching everyone else die around you while you stand there unscathed is fun too!

[NocturnalRob]

eh, i dunno. the added DS boost is nice, but it does nothing to prevent maneuvers, TD attacks, etc etc. does it add +50 to bolt ds?

on second thought, i would love a +50 DS boost...

edit: on third thought, i'd rather have a nice TV.

[Morrff]

eh, i dunno. the added DS boost is nice, but it does nothing to prevent maneuvers, TD attacks, etc etc. does it add +50 to bolt ds?

on second thought, i would love a +50 DS boost...

edit: on third thought, i'd rather have a nice TV.

Remote controlled lowering screen + Projector + Pre-05 Klipch audio FTW :yes:

[LadyKhit]

In the very early days, enchantable clothing and pins could be dropped by critters...or at least I remember finding a few. Alot of DB items came out through the black market as well way back when. It was also easy to enchant DB items during the early days as long as you could find enough infusers to actually work the enchanting system to your benefit or if you were lucky enough to have a private workshop.

I remember some initial changes to the enchantability of DB items that occurred just before GS went live on the web from AOL/Prodigy etc. And then just as Pinefar was being discovered I believe that they were made darn near impossible to enchant...there was an extremely high possibility of catastrophic failure associated with them. I don't know when the change was made to prevent them from being enchanted altogether, but I believe it occured when the whole enchanting process was revamped. I happended to be on an extended sebatical at the time. I was also away when the changes affecting the total DS bonus you could gain from DB items were made.

At least this is the way I remember it.

Khit

[Allereli]

Remote controlled lowering screen + Projector + Pre-05 Klipch audio FTW :yes:

I think I'll take a week in Turks with my $1500

[Drew]

Where does a 10x DB item come from? Most of them have generic names, makes me think GM's make em and make them look like regular items to hide them. Is that accurate?

Most of the DB cloaks were at one point frost giant skin cloaks, pretty much all of those were brought up to 10x and altered.

[SHAFT]

I think I'll take a week in Turks with my $1500

Or a week cage diving and swimming with great whites off the coast of Australia.

[Allereli]

Or a week cage diving and swimming with great whites off the coast of Australia.

With current airline ticket costs, that trip would be quite a bit more.

[AnticorRifling]

With current airline ticket costs, that trip would be quite a bit more.

Unless you live in Australia!

[Allereli]

Unless you live in Australia!

touche

[NocturnalRob]

Or a week cage diving and swimming with great whites off the coast of Australia.

sucking their dicks?

[AnticorRifling]

1500 would get me....not much I'd probably get something for the kids and/or a new rifle for me.

[Morrff]

Or a week cage diving and swimming with great whites off the coast of Australia.

People actually pay for that stuff? You'd have to pay me a good deal of money to go in a world where I cannot maneuver and the 14'+ non-fish flesh eating creature CAN maneuver just fine!

Or it would have to be for one damn good reason, saving another persons life, scientific research benefiting the world etc etc.

Oh and BUY THIS PERSONS DB ITEM!!!! :welcome:

LolBrielus :nono:

[Khariz]

sucking their dicks?

LOLOLOLOL! I still like the picture.

[vasplieon]

I think WoW has more Chinese players amidst its database, which inherently reduces the price of e-goods.

Why else would they be hosting the Olympics?

...

To the OP, $1500 the going or MB?

It is the buyout price. This is really not a auction so if somebody has 1500 and wants some very nice equipment then it is sold, otherwise I will keep a hold of them.

Semtexx

[SHAFT]

With current airline ticket costs, that trip would be quite a bit more.

Yeah, who am I kidding? The whole trip would probably cost 4g's. But the $1500 would go towards the trip quite nicely. I could spend a week off of San Fran for about $1500. Much rather do South Africa or Australia though.

I think it'd be an incredible rush being in the water with a 15 foot killing machine. I'd love to see a 20 footer. If you're in a cage you don't have anything to worry about, its not like in Jaws where the shark mangles the cage. That doesn't happen.

Someone buy this guys boots, we've derailed his thread.

[Drunken Durfin]

I don't care abotu market stability, honestly. Like I just said...items are worth the same, despite the worth of silvers.

Nothing of mine is for sale anyway, so why would I care? I'm saying that in today's market, that's a good price. If you find one cheaper, I'll give you an cookie.


Uh...

http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?t=34952

[SHAFT]

sucking their dicks?

Yeah go ahead man, do your thing.

[Khariz]

Uh...

http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?t=34952

That stuff wasn't mine....at least, it wasn't when I made the post you are quoting. I owned that stuff for a one our period today, made a substantial profit from what I paid. Call me a broker.

[Allereli]

I think it'd be an incredible rush being in the water with a 15 foot killing machine. I'd love to see a 20 footer. If you're in a cage you don't have anything to worry about, its not like in Jaws where the shark mangles the cage. That doesn't happen.

Did you watch Shark Week where the divers were putting the great whites to sleep? No fucking way would I ever get in the water like that, but I'd definitely get in a cage.

Derailed threads in the selling folder are always the best.

[SHAFT]

Did you watch Shark Week where the divers were putting the great whites to sleep? No fucking way would I ever get in the water like that, but I'd definitely get in a cage.

Derailed threads in the selling folder are always the best.

Yeah, I've seen all that stuff. The tonic trance shows are awesome. I liked the one where they put a 14 foot tiger shark to sleep the best. I was amazed cause tigers are extremely aggressive. I couldn't believe they got away with it.

The flying great white shows are sweet too. They drag a cut-out seal behind a boat and the whites fly 10 feet out of the water. The videos are on Youtube.

There are also shows where they'll lure a white to the edge of the boat and get the shark to snick its snout about 2-3 feet out of the water and a guy will put his hand on the end of the sharks nose. Fucking crazy.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

I miss the 10x hat, cloak and pin I sold :(

[Carsyn]

As awesome as a 10x DB item is, seems like it'd take some fun away from the game. Give me a 10x item and I won't die right now. I wouldn't even get touched hunting.

But on the same side that isn't a bad thing.

Trust me, it's not like that at all. I have some uber gear, and with enough swarmers, or spellcasters, it's nighty night time.

Gear doesn't make up for all the ways to die. Or bad tactics. Or bad luck.

And if you wouldn't be "touched" just from a +50DS difference, then you need a higher level hunting ground.

Carsyn, player of Kraytorh

[vasplieon]

I miss the 10x hat, cloak and pin I sold :(

This is what I am afraid of happening when they sell
http://forum.gsplayers.com/images/icons/icon9.gif
Unhappy

[SHAFT]

Trust me, it's not like that at all. I have some uber gear, and with enough swarmers, or spellcasters, it's nighty night time.

Gear doesn't make up for all the ways to die. Or bad tactics. Or bad luck.

And if you wouldn't be "touched" just from a +50DS difference, then you need a higher level hunting ground.

Carsyn, player of Kraytorh

Excellent points you make. I'm back to square one hunting orcs and hobgoblins, so you're probably right.

[AKOE!]

I love that fact that items are sold using U.S. dollars. I can actually afford this stuff if I chose to buy it. :D

[Asha]

I love that fact that items are sold using U.S. dollars. I can actually afford this stuff if I chose to buy it. :D

WOW! You win!

[Malok]

Gear doesn't make up for all the ways to die. Or bad tactics. Or bad luck. Or poor race selection. Or a shitty template.

Fixt.

[AnticorRifling]

Malokii touched me under my kilt.

[crb]

I love that fact that items are sold using U.S. dollars. I can actually afford this stuff if I chose to buy it. :D
All, the quintessential poor American. Measuring his worth in how much he buys, rather than in how much he saves.

[AKOE!]

WOW! You win!

Yay! You win too! :places a gold star on your nose: :hug2:

[AKOE!]

All, the quintessential poor American. Measuring his worth in how much he buys, rather than in how much he saves.

Well I guess that's really the problem, isn't it? Most Americans I know talk about saving as if it's the new Atkin's Diet. Four or five years ago it was, "Spend or the terrorists win!". Now it's, "Save save save!". Next you'll hear, "Give it away or you're going to hell!" I mean really... come on

[Malok]

Malokii touched me under my kilt.

Hah - thats a trick statement.


You normally don't wear any clothing below the waist! :P

[SayGoodbye]

All, the quintessential poor American. Measuring his worth in how much he buys, rather than in how much he saves.

I'm pretty sure the comment was in reference to her money being valued more than the US dollar.

[Ryenn]

Malok everyone knows that stuff...it's pretty obvious.

(insert shitty race here) dodging/CS > giantman/dwarf max HP, Spirit Regen, Carrying capacity, inherent TD!!!!!

I mean - aren't most persons geniuses - here are 25 RIGHT HERE!?

Fame List -- Sorcerers -- Starting Rank 1
_____________________________________________
Rank| Name | Fame |Lvl|G| Race
---------------------------------------------
2 Tarakan 400000106 100 M Human
9 Darwar 252243443 100 M Elf
12 Meyhymm 210369572 100 M DarkElf
15 Yactaevia 193398752 100 F DarkElf
22 Mistros 175468967 100 M DarkElf
31 Xeniphite 157755443 100 M DarkElf
33 Virilneus 155555540 100 M Dwarf
35 Suntzhu 152690249 100 M DarkElf
37 Iaz 150000635 100 M DarkElf
38 Rhellium 145565984 100 M Sylvan
39 Zurrainn 145294607 100 M DarkElf
41 Qar 142970144 100 M Halflin
42 Merdrith 140898604 100 M DarkElf
43 Siphere 139457661 100 M Elf
48 Gadshill 132777470 100 M Sylvan
52 Krovax 129534698 100 M DarkElf
57 Jenovadeath 125142915 100 M DarkElf
59 Mattheiw 123716306 100 M DarkElf
64 Beaumian 117978983 100 M DarkElf
65 Daguar 116092320 88 M HalfElf
67 Badd 115731969 90 M DarkElf
69 Rheisia 113395571 100 F DarkElf
73 Syberus 112145030 100 M HalfElf
84 Magdolean 106071084 97 F Sylvan
92 Evarin 101957927 100 M DarkElf

ROFLMAO.

I guess I should have said 24 - Tarakan obviously doesn't know wtf he is doing selecting a human sorcerer - clearly there are only 24 geniuses on this list.

[Fallen]

The only problem with selecting a dwarf or a giant is that your character is infact a dwarf or a giant.

[Asha]

Tarakan is le douche. I don't have anything else to add. :(

[Malok]

The only problem with selecting a dwarf or a giant is that your character is infact a dwarf or a giant.



Why?

Because you'd rather be Drone Darkelf #134632652?


Perhaps they should just change the race from Darkelf to the Borg.

[Fallen]

I've met just SO many types of differently roleplayed dwarfs and giants that it blows my mind. Wait..no, no I haven't.

Pot, kettle.

[Renian]

The only problem with selecting a dwarf or a giant is that your character is infact a dwarf or a giant.

Dwarves and giants are cool.

Did I mention the two hang out according to game lore?



But I know what you mean. Dark Elves just seem like they have a hell of a lot more opportunities for RPing them somehow. Maybe it's because they are oppressed, Or generally evil. Or hated because they are black. It's a lot more to work with than:

"lol we forge and mine shit" - dwarves
"lol we smash face" - giants

[Fallen]

A race has as much, or as little roleplaying potential as the player behind it. Different for the sake of different has always struck me as a stupid ideal. If you're touting mechanical advantages in the same breath as roleplaying uniqueness, you're going to have a hard time selling it to me.

[Sean]

Out of curiousity how is Evarin different from Dighn?

[Renian]

A race has as much, or as little roleplaying potential as the player behind it.

The lore definitely helps them make it easier, I feel.


Different for the sake of different has always struck me as a stupid ideal. If you're touting mechanical advantages in the same breath as roleplaying uniqueness, you're going to have a hard time selling it to me.

UR DOIN' IT RIGHT.

[Morrff]

I mean - aren't most persons geniuses - here are 25 RIGHT HERE!?

Didn't even include me!!! I guess I need to update my fame for my IQ to go up huh?

Tarakan's an alright fellow in my book, much better then that Malok chap who RP'd a tardy-humper(J/K).

:welcome:

Now buy this guys DB!

[Renian]

Brielus just sold 100m. HE MIGHT JUST DO IT.

...

...

...WAIT.

JESUS CHRIST, IF HE GETS HIS DB, WHO WILL WE LOL???

[Allereli]

Brielus just sold 100m. HE MIGHT JUST DO IT.

...

...

...WAIT.

JESUS CHRIST, IF HE GETS HIS DB, WHO WILL WE LOL???

I think Widgets is a candidate


3) DB Items. Must be 2x+....Would love 10x

[Fallen]

Out of curiousity how is Evarin different from Dighn?

Dighn was a pariah from his people to the north, where Evarin was not. He was also several hundred years older, and had actually completed his Caste training in Sharath. Dighn favored hotter temperatures and outside of his trip to Pinefar remained in such places (Mostly River's Rest), whereas Evarin greatly prefers the cold. Dighn never had any involvement or influence with Mularos, whereas Evarin has always had difficulty in resisting the influences of the Sorrower. Finally, roleplay wise Dighn was more a priest than a warrior, which is Evarin's MO. He wore robes and vestments, to E's straps and various bits of armor.

Mechanically, Dighn favored raw casting power over the more teriary training of Evarin. He stayed in fulls/doubles whereas E prefers Cuirb. Dighn knew next to nothing of Scroll infusion, and I don't think he EVER used 725 and 730. Evarin is considered one of the better infusers in the lands, and uses both of the other spells daily.

etc etc.

[Malok]

I've met just SO many types of differently roleplayed dwarfs and giants that it blows my mind. Wait..no, no I haven't.

Pot, kettle.


Then why don't you be THAT different person. If there are 32634263421634673416734734734734734173416734216893 215893258932158832583258 dark elves - and 5 giant/dwarf casters: you would have much more opportunity to be something NEW and UNIQUE - instead of a Borg drone.



There isn't any roleplaying a dark elf can do - that hasn't been done by someone previously - simply because of the sheer numbers of people playing them in the first place.




A race has as much, or as little roleplaying potential as the player behind it. Different for the sake of different has always struck me as a stupid ideal. If you're touting mechanical advantages in the same breath as roleplaying uniqueness, you're going to have a hard time selling it to me.


2 different points entirely you are correct.

But your disdain for not even considering mechanical advantages as a possible enhancement to your enjoyment OF THE GAME, particularly at the highest level - is completely foolish.


It is a game afterall.


So, lets choose from a ROLEPLAYING perspective:
Giant/dwarf: very few casters in game. Lots of opportunity to get beyond the 1 stereotype and really would be able to show people just how good of a roleplayer you really are.

Darkelf: been there, done that. Every possible personality, speed impediment, and queer clothing has been done by someone over the past decade in the game.


And from a mechanical perspective:
Darkelf: leet dodge/CS

Giant: virtually every other advantage



So, why would you choose a darkelf from EITHER perspective? You wouldn't. Unless you are a Borg drone that is COMPLETELY unoriginal.

[Fallen]

The difference between you and I is I don't think a requirement for good roleplay is that it hasn't been done before. In a game that has been around for 15+ years, if something hasn't been done, there is likely a good reason for it.

Again, Different for the sake of different is silly.

>>> But your disdain for not even considering mechanical advantages as a possible enhancement to your enjoyment OF THE GAME, particularly at the highest level - is completely foolish. It is a game afterall. >>

Closing in on 13 mill experience, I wouldn't call a dark elf gimped in any way. I have +2 spirit recovery, and 12 spirit. Anyone that needs 200+ health as a pure is doing something wrong.

Rheisia, who's build is similar to mine - all the toys hunts just fine as a Dark Elf. Though only Dwarf caster I know is Virilneus, and he MAs in the field. Take that for what you will.

[Ryenn]

Then why don't you be THAT different person. If there are 32634263421634673416734734734734734173416734216893 215893258932158832583258 dark elves - and 5 giant/dwarf casters: you would have much more opportunity to be something NEW and UNIQUE - instead of a Borg drone.



There isn't any roleplaying a dark elf can do - that hasn't been done by someone previously - simply because of the sheer numbers of people playing them in the first place.






2 different points entirely you are correct.

But your disdain for not even considering mechanical advantages as a possible enhancement to your enjoyment OF THE GAME, particularly at the highest level - is completely foolish.


It is a game afterall.


So, lets choose from a ROLEPLAYING perspective:
Giant/dwarf: very few casters in game. Lots of opportunity to get beyond the 1 stereotype and really would be able to show people just how good of a roleplayer you really are.

Darkelf: been there, done that. Every possible personality, *SPEECH impediment, and queer clothing has been done by someone over the past decade in the game.


And from a mechanical perspective:
Darkelf: leet dodge/CS

Giant: virtually every other advantage



So, why would you choose a darkelf from EITHER perspective? You wouldn't. Unless you are a Borg drone that is COMPLETELY unoriginal.

Fixed.

[Widgets]

I think Widgets is a candidate

Brielus has an advantage over me, and that's time. :(

However, I'm in no frenzy to obtain DB stuff, I can survive without.

[Brielus]

If I get DB'Z I r become teh GOZER THE TRAVELER!

[LadyLaphrael]

If I get DB'Z I r become teh GOZER THE TRAVELER!

There is no BRIELUS, there is only LOL!

[Fallen]

Heh.

[thefarmer]

Poor guy.. all this talk and no bidding.

[Fallen]

Saves him from bumping. I imagine anyone that would bid would do so by PM.

[Allereli]

If I get DB'Z I r become teh GOZER THE TRAVELER!

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d26/vankrasn/ghostbusters-gozer.jpg

[thefarmer]

Saves him from bumping. I imagine anyone that would bid would do so by PM.

True

[Brielus]

Awesome that someone got the referance!

[Malok]

The difference between you and I is I don't think a requirement for good roleplay is that it hasn't been done before.

A requirement? Nothing is a requirement.

But being original would at least test your true roleplaying skills - instead of just copying what everyone else has done in the game previously.



In a game that has been around for 15+ years, if something hasn't been done, there is likely a good reason for it.

Again, Different for the sake of different is silly.

Lets get real: You may have chosen purely for a roleplaying experience. But most people choose darkelf because of the perceived mechanical advantages that they provide.

(In the days when level 20 actually meant something, and level 50 was a real accomplishment, dark elves did have a lot to bring to the table.)

So, people saw that so-and-so was level such-and-such. Lets all copy him because obviously it works. And the trend continued.



Closing in on 13 mill experience, I wouldn't call a dark elf gimped in any way. I have +2 spirit recovery, and 12 spirit. Anyone that needs 200+ health as a pure is doing something wrong.

Rheisia, who's build is similar to mine - all the toys hunts just fine as a Dark Elf. Though only Dwarf caster I know is Virilneus, and he MAs in the field. Take that for what you will.

The teenager thats eating the Big Mac thinks he's got some mighty fine eating.


Its all relative. You look pretty good relative to the other guys - cause the other guys are all pretty similar to you in the first place.


And NEEDING 200+ health is vastly different than having it as an OPTION.

Do you need the 700 horsepower Ferrari? No. You can get by just fine with the Honda Civic - after all, the Civic gets better gas mileage and everyone else has one - so its clearly the superior choice.

[Fallen]

I believe that one has an even greater opportunity to shine when he must be recognized as a good roleplayer by doing something that already has been done countless times.

I'm glad you enjoy your race. I don't care for dwarves and giants. Outside of the Khanshael, their cultures simply don't interest me.

[Ryenn]

The difference between you and I is I don't think a requirement for good roleplay is that it hasn't been done before. In a game that has been around for 15+ years, if something hasn't been done, there is likely a good reason for it.

Again, Different for the sake of different is silly.

>>> But your disdain for not even considering mechanical advantages as a possible enhancement to your enjoyment OF THE GAME, particularly at the highest level - is completely foolish. It is a game afterall. >>

Closing in on 13 mill experience, I wouldn't call a dark elf gimped in any way. I have +2 spirit recovery, and 12 spirit. Anyone that needs 200+ health as a pure is doing something wrong.

Rheisia, who's build is similar to mine - all the toys hunts just fine as a Dark Elf. Though only Dwarf caster I know is Virilneus, and he MAs in the field. Take that for what you will.


I find it interesting that you say dark elves are not gimped mechanically yet you use CO, and spirit regen enhancives. That is a total contradiction. If max health doesn't matter, why use a CO enhancive? If dark elves weren't inferior in terms of spirit regen and max HP totals you wouldn't need what a FAR SUPERIOR race such as giant, dwarf, or even human gets for free. No one "needs" 200 HP - there are plenty of sorry ass characters who have made it to the cap and beyond. If you put in enough time and effort on a mediocre/shitty character you will eventually get as much exp. as you desire. The question would be, why invest years into a mechanically sub-par character when by simply selecting a different race you could be FAR more durable, and therefore powerful when looking long term.

The most important aspect of character creation is race selection. The most important aspects of any character are NOT TRAINABLE and completely IRREVERSIBLE.

In other words, if you suck ass (comparatively speaking) you are going to suck ass with 13 mil, 130 mil, or 1.3bil exp, perfect stats, and all the enhancives in the world.

I can't wait to see what happens when the level 110 area comes out. Chances are good that people will be getting owned 20+ times a day just like the rift back in the day until they cry and whine so that the GMs turn down the difficulty so that a Two handed, ambushing empath could hunt it - which is basically what has happened now.

This is still good news, because if the game is so easy that a shitty dark elf can get to the cap and beyond without dying 20 times a day (like they used to) a giant, dwarf, or even a human will just have it that much easier.

[NocturnalRob]

This is still good news, because if the game is so easy that a shitty dark elf can get to the cap and beyond without dying 20 times a day (like they used to) a giant, dwarf, or even a human will just have it that much easier.

i don't think your mother hugged you enough as a child.

[Fallen]

You're asking me why I should better my character? What, should I not get enhancives which will increase my effectiveness just because I could reroll and get them without them? Then my CS would suck. Then I would be even worse against maneuvers. Then I would be forced to play a race/culture with perhaps a paragraph of background information a piece.

So what you're telling me is a Giant/Dwarf should NEVER get ANYTHING to raise his CS in terms of enhancives because they are SO AMAZING that they shouldn't have the need to make up for their lower CS. I hope you see how stupid that sounds, as it is pretty damned obvious.

Jinsem is a hobbit. His race has the best spirit regen in the game, yet he also seeks out spirit enhancive items, both regen and raw spirit. Why? Because they are useful. It doesn't matter if you're in the lowest regen rate, or the highest, they are still useful. It doesn't mean halflings suck at regening spirit, it just means that being able to do so faster will always be worth achieving.

If you think selecting Giant/Dwarf automatically makes you some godly character, you're quite mistaken. It gives you a few mechanical advantages at the cost of a few others. Honestly, who the fuck cares? There is NO area of this game that anyone with nearly ANY build cannot kick the shit out of. If ANYTHING this proves you should select your race based primarily around how you want to roleplay your character, not what might give you a slight mechanical edge.

[NocturnalRob]

If ANYTHING this proves you should select your race based primarily around how you want to roleplay your character, not what might give you a slight mechanical edge.

qft. seriously though, why argue this point with someone who MAs pyros on Teras? OMG UR A GENIUZZZ!!1!1eleven

people play this game for different reasons. not everyone seeks out the optimal mechanical advantage for the sole purpose of becoming a GS GOD! there are certain aspects to every class and profession that appeal to different people. mechanical advantages are relatively nullified with the introduction of enhancives, so you're able to play your character instead of the perceived advantages/disadvantages of the different races.

[Fallen]

Honestly, with enhancives nearly ANY racial defeciency can be greatly mitigated, if not completely overcome.

[Widgets]

Gnomes win at Gemstone...Shit people, you need to start accepting this!!!

[NocturnalRob]

Honestly, with enhancives nearly ANY racial defeciency can be greatly mitigated, if not completely overcome.

stop making me qft.

jerk...

[crb]

Though only Dwarf caster I know is Virilneus, and he MAs in the field. Take that for what you will.

I solo hunted until about 1 year ago when my empath finally got old enough to hunt with me. So... thats... 12 years of solo hunting including.... 5 years or so in OTF (since the day it opened) -- including having to deal with the huge level span it had then (from 120-145). When it was actually hard. I solo'd all over darkstone, all over the broken lands. Solo'd fhorian village, Solo'd pyrothags. Solo'd inner eye, lower eye, and that deep fire mage area. Solo'd plane 1, plane 2, plane 3, plane 4, and plane 5.

The fact that I'm not going to split my 6 or 7 hour a week of active playing time between two characters that I can easily hunt together at the same time has nothing to do with a lack of ability, of either one for that matter.

While hunting solo, from March of 2005 until I guess it was probably July of 2007, I didn't die once from hunting. I have an old 1 use a month +1 deed item, using just it I went from 20 something to 30 something deeds (a few deaths from boxes, one from 740 using wrong chalk).

What I want to know is why Malok is back posting? I feel like a flashback to 1999 discussions on the officials. Me, Tarakan, Kulbaen, and Malok vs. 1 million dark elves.

[crb]

And oh, dwarves are the best at everything other than apple picking. We are superior, and we have more fun. No need for manners, if it moves, eat it, if it drinks, drink it, if it looks mean, hit it with a stick. Your beard is your napkin everywhere you go. You don't need to shower. You don't need to shave, you wear a kilt so shittin's easy.

Oh... and PS Malok... Evarin has previously admitted to the superiority of dwarf sorcerers (the quote was, I believe "I think dwarves are probably best choice for a min/maxer who wants the best)... lots has changed since you quit, I've got quite a few people following my way of thinking now. Less new dark elves being born every day.

But really... Evarin does his RP really well, there are a lot of empty dirt elves out there, but he isn't one of them.

[crb]

Malok everyone knows that stuff...it's pretty obvious.

(insert shitty race here) dodging/CS > giantman/dwarf max HP, Spirit Regen, Carrying capacity, inherent TD!!!!!

I mean - aren't most persons geniuses - here are 25 RIGHT HERE!?

Fame List -- Sorcerers -- Starting Rank 1
_____________________________________________
Rank| Name | Fame |Lvl|G| Race
---------------------------------------------
2 Tarakan 400000106 100 M Human
9 Darwar 252243443 100 M Elf
12 Meyhymm 210369572 100 M DarkElf
15 Yactaevia 193398752 100 F DarkElf
22 Mistros 175468967 100 M DarkElf
31 Xeniphite 157755443 100 M DarkElf
33 Virilneus 155555540 100 M Dwarf
35 Suntzhu 152690249 100 M DarkElf
37 Iaz 150000635 100 M DarkElf
38 Rhellium 145565984 100 M Sylvan
39 Zurrainn 145294607 100 M DarkElf
41 Qar 142970144 100 M Halflin
42 Merdrith 140898604 100 M DarkElf
43 Siphere 139457661 100 M Elf
48 Gadshill 132777470 100 M Sylvan
52 Krovax 129534698 100 M DarkElf
57 Jenovadeath 125142915 100 M DarkElf
59 Mattheiw 123716306 100 M DarkElf
64 Beaumian 117978983 100 M DarkElf
65 Daguar 116092320 88 M HalfElf
67 Badd 115731969 90 M DarkElf
69 Rheisia 113395571 100 F DarkElf
73 Syberus 112145030 100 M HalfElf
84 Magdolean 106071084 97 F Sylvan
92 Evarin 101957927 100 M DarkElf

ROFLMAO.

I guess I should have said 24 - Tarakan obviously doesn't know wtf he is doing selecting a human sorcerer - clearly there are only 24 geniuses on this list.
I'm not sure i fyou were being sarcastic or what exactly... but... I'm guessing you don't remember Malok... who once was the most powerful sorcerer ever (yes, even before he retired to be a roguish life). He spent many hours dragging dark elf corpses out of the rift because they had sacrificed all for a big CS and couldn't cope with the attacks (this was back before out sweet flexible training system now, so literally there were people out their (enchandri) with skills way out of wack to the extent they'd have defensive problems in the hundreds of DS).

[Malok]

Good to see you still around, Virilneus. :)


I occasionally check back here just to see whats up now and again. [Though, I generally rarely post.]



I just made 1 tweak to a comment made in this thread initially (it was like someone setting you up for a spike in volleyball, so I couldn't resist) - and then things kind of ballooned up here with the subsequent posts.

[Allereli]

I think we have to keep bumping this above the new one now.

[Ryenn]

I'm not sure i fyou were being sarcastic or what exactly... but... I'm guessing you don't remember Malok... who once was the most powerful sorcerer ever (yes, even before he retired to be a roguish life). He spent many hours dragging dark elf corpses out of the rift because they had sacrificed all for a big CS and couldn't cope with the attacks (this was back before out sweet flexible training system now, so literally there were people out their (enchandri) with skills way out of wack to the extent they'd have defensive problems in the hundreds of DS).

Malok is a good friend of mine and I do remember watching the dark elves dying in the rift (and the lower eye) 20+ times a day, back when the game was actually hard.

[Ryenn]

>loot
You intone a phrase of elemental power while raising your hands, invoking Immolation...
Your spell is ready.
You gesture at a triton radical.
The dull golden nimbus surrounding a triton radical suddenly begins to glow brightly.
CS: +542 - TD: +440 + CvA: +25 + d100: +59 == +186
Warding failed!
Small flames of yellow and orange hues begin to lick at a triton radical. Before long, the flames grow more violent, reaching hungrily up her body. She falls to the ground and the flames engulf her. Black smoke rises in tendrils from the large blaze around a triton radical as she burns.
The triton radical rolls over and dies.
The dully illuminated mantle protecting a triton radical begins to falter, then completely fades away.
A white glow rushes away from a triton radical.
The dull golden nimbus fades from around a triton radical.
The brilliant aura fades away from a triton radical.
The very powerful look leaves a triton radical.
The white light leaves a triton radical.
The warm glow fades from around a triton radical.
A triton radical seems slightly different.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.

>loot
You intone a phrase of elemental power while raising your hands, invoking Immolation...
Your spell is ready.
You gesture at a siren.
CS: +542 - TD: +427 + CvA: +25 + d100: +35 == +175
Warding failed!
Wisps of black smoke swirl around a siren and she bursts into flame!
... 30 points of damage!
Flames cook a siren's chest. Looks about medium well.
The siren gives a plaintive wail before she slumps to her side and dies.
The brilliant luminescence fades from around a siren.
The bright luminescence fades from around a siren.
The silvery luminescence fades from around a siren.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.

>imm
Voodoo '519' to 'INCANT 519'.
You intone a phrase of elemental power while raising your hands, invoking Immolation...
Your spell is ready.
You gesture at a siren.
CS: +542 - TD: +430 + CvA: +20 + d100: +86 == +218
Warding failed!
Wisps of black smoke swirl around a siren and she bursts into flame!
... 50 points of damage!
Permanently debilitating burns across stomach.
The siren is stunned!
... 50 points of damage!
Head explodes, splattering sizzling bits of flesh and bone everywhere.
The siren gives a plaintive wail before she slumps to her side and dies.
The brilliant luminescence fades from around a siren.
>loot
The bright luminescence fades from around a siren.
The silvery luminescence fades from around a siren.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.

>loot
You intone a phrase of elemental power while raising your hands, invoking Immolation...
Your spell is ready.
You gesture at a triton radical.
CS: +542 - TD: +440 + CvA: +25 + d100: +68 == +195
Warding failed!
Wisps of black smoke swirl around a triton radical and he bursts into flame!
... 50 points of damage!
A large patch of flesh is seared off a triton radical's back.
... 60 points of damage!
Flames engulf body. Chest left a smoldering ruin.
The triton radical collapses, gurgling once with a wrathful look on his face before expiring.
The dully illuminated mantle protecting a triton radical begins to falter, then completely fades away.
A white glow rushes away from a triton radical.
The dull golden nimbus fades from around a triton radical.
The brilliant aura fades away from a triton radical.
The very powerful look leaves a triton radical.
The white light leaves a triton radical.
A triton radical seems slightly different.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.

Your hands glow with power as you invoke the phrase for Major Fire...
Your spell is ready.
You gesture at a spectral triton defender.
You hurl a roaring ball of fire at a spectral triton defender!
AS: +460 vs DS: +235 with AvD: +22 + d100 roll: +99 = +346
... and hit for 97 points of damage!
Powerful hit to the triton defender's neck leaves trails of vapor in its wake!

[You have completed this portion of your Adventurer's Guild task.]
You hear a sound like a weeping child as a white glow separates itself from the triton defender's body as it rises, disappearing into the heavens.
The spectral form of the triton defender tenses in agony as she begins to dissolve from the bottom up!
A spectral triton defender seems slightly different.
The roaring ball of fire strikes a spectral triton defender, blossoming into a much larger sphere of flame upon impact.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.

[AestheticDeath]

He's an elf though.

[Ryenn]

At least he's not a dark elf.

[The Ponzzz]

wtf is this convo even about? Are we selling boots or elves?

[Allereli]

wtf is this convo even about? Are we selling boots or elves?

it's about epeens

[The Ponzzz]

Oh, I rock a 1 inch epeen. The ladies dig it. They like how I'm hung like a mosquito.

[NocturnalRob]

Mosquitos are the dope shiznit.

[TheWitch]

Did the boots sell?

Back on topic, and I've been away for a few weeks so I just got around to this thread, but.......

Nice holier than thou attitude, Malok. Are you Tarakan too? Because in all his RP glory, he used to bust my chops outside OTF about being a cookie-cutter DE sorcerer. Outloud. You go, human, you fucking genius.

What I simply do not get about any of this crap you people are spewing:

Why the hell do you even CARE what race someone chooses to play for what reasons? Are you all like, Democrats who have to group-think everyone?

[crb]

no... Malok and Tarakan aren't the same person.

[vasplieon]

Boots still for sale ;-)

also entertaining partial trades for high ET full's