And everyone dislikes Gnomes for some reason...

[Widgets]

Snapshot of Widgets, 26 trains currently. Me personally, I find Gnomes a challenging, yet rewarding race to play on many different levels.

The RP aspect of them is fun, along with some mechanical benefits. They have great stats for some professions and if placed/played right, make excellent mobile buggers regardless of encumbrance issues they have :(

You fire a heavy crossbow bolt at a jungle troll chieftain!
AS: +295 vs DS: +126 with AvD: +25 + d100 roll: +3 = +197
... and hit for 60 points of damage!
Attack punctures the eye and connects with something really vital!
[You have earned 70 recognition points.]
The troll chieftain snarls her defiance before collapsing and going still.
A jungle troll chieftain seems to lose an aura of confidence.
A jungle troll chieftain seems to lose some dexterity.
The light blue glow leaves a jungle troll chieftain.
A jungle troll chieftain returns to normal color.
The heavy crossbow bolt sticks in a jungle troll chieftain's left eye!
Roundtime: 3 sec.

You fire a heavy crossbow bolt at a jungle troll!
AS: +295 vs DS: +108 with AvD: +25 + d100 roll: +4 = +216
... and hit for 74 points of damage!
Shot knocks the jungle troll's head back by pushing on the inside of the skull!
[You have earned 50 recognition points.]
The jungle troll falls to the ground as the stillness of death overtakes him.
The deep blue glow leaves a jungle troll.
The heavy crossbow bolt sticks in a jungle troll's left eye!
Roundtime: 2 sec.

You currently have the following active spells:
Thurfel's Ward
Elemental Defense III
Mass Blur
Elemental Defense II
Elemental Defense I

The only thing I wish was changed as of now, in terms of ranged stuff. Is that crossbows should add directly to your DS as well with enchantment just like bows do...But they sadly, do not. So I'm not even gaining the DS of my crossbow enchant like I normally would with a normal bow.

And here people think ranged is overpowered...Not to mention the time allotted it takes to make 100 fletched arrows, and to pick up ones off the ground/search a room for a 9second RT just to find 1 arrow that shot into the environment.

I think crossbow users get the large end of the shaft when it comes to ranged combat overall. And I may just have to make a post in the Archery folder over at the officials to go into detail just what entails with Archery and what can be done to fix some stuff.

Ah well, I guess I'm just bored right now so I figured I'd rant.

[Stretch]

From level 60 through post cap, it's overpowered, assuming you play a race that has at least a 25 STR bonus and a profession that has access to surge.

Being able to carry 8 boxes while still sniping in 3 seconds is fairly absurd.

[thefarmer]

Using your crossbow examples as saying ranged isn't overpowered is silly.

That's like saying the downfalls of a lance is representative of the problems with melee combat, but totally ignoring the great sword/board benefits.

[Danical]

Gnomes suck horrendous donkey balls.

I would know :(

The LO bonus is nice but encumbrance PWNS gnomes hard.

[Fallen]

Archery is somewhat overpowered. I just can't buy the whole "But I need arrows" shtick. You can buy regular arrows out of the shop which will last quite a while. You can buy fletched arrows readily in the playershops or otherwise and basically have a 10x weapon.

Your RT isn't affected by encumbrance, you have similated ranged DS, which is pretty unfair in that hurling doesn't get that. The DS formulas in general are fairly nice for archers.

[Widgets]

From level 60 through post cap, it's overpowered, assuming you play a race that has at least a 25 STR bonus and a profession that has access to surge.

Being able to carry 8 boxes while still sniping in 3 seconds is fairly absurd.

Strength (STR): 68 (-6) ... 68 (-6)
Constitution (CON): 68 (19) ... 68 (19)
Dexterity (DEX): 93 (31) ... 93 (31)
Agility (AGI): 98 (34) ... 98 (34)
Discipline (DIS): 76 (8) ... 76 (8)
Aura (AUR): 75 (17) ... 75 (17)
Logic (LOG): 88 (29) ... 88 (29)
Intuition (INT): 83 (21) ... 83 (21)
Wisdom (WIS): 64 (7) ... 64 (7)
Influence (INF): 38 (-11) ... 38 (-11)

The 3 second RT was aiming, from the open.

[Widgets]

Archery is somewhat overpowered. I just can't buy the whole "But I need arrows" shtick. You can buy regular arrows out of the shop which will last quite a while. You can buy fletched arrows readily in the playershops or otherwise and basically have a 10x weapon.

Your RT isn't affected by encumbrance, you have similated ranged DS, which is pretty unfair in that hurling doesn't get that. The DS formulas in general are fairly nice for archers.

I agree in a way E, which is why I decided to make a post on the Officials in the Archery folder about stuff I personally think.

However, I get the shaft when it comes to general DS as opposed to someone who is using a normal Bow.

[m444w]

but 10x != overpowered. It's about the endrolls you have to generate to reliably kill something. And an archer must be able to reliably generate higher endrolls than any other weapon form to kill something (they don't get crit modifiers, and try shooting something in platemail with a bow).


And the they rock everything at cap arguement I find a little skewed as well... Just for comparison I would like to know about what a mage/bard/cleric's average lethality ratio is versus an archer's at cap. Anyone who is capped can make mincemeat out of Ithizir.

[Khariz]

but 10x != overpowered. It's about the endrolls you have to generate to reliably kill something. And an archer must be able to reliably generate higher endrolls than any other weapon form to kill something (they don't get crit modifiers, and try shooting something in platemail with a bow).


And the they rock everything at cap arguement I find a little skewed as well... Just for comparison I would like to know about what a mage/bard/cleric's average lethality ratio is versus an archer's at cap. Anyone who is capped can make mincemeat out of Ithizir.

As a claidhmore/maul user, I've never felt any "bow envy".

[Danical]

Strength (STR): 68 (-6) ... 68 (-6)
Constitution (CON): 68 (19) ... 68 (19)
Dexterity (DEX): 93 (31) ... 93 (31)
Agility (AGI): 98 (34) ... 98 (34)
Discipline (DIS): 76 (8) ... 76 (8)
Aura (AUR): 75 (17) ... 75 (17)
Logic (LOG): 88 (29) ... 88 (29)
Intuition (INT): 83 (21) ... 83 (21)
Wisdom (WIS): 64 (7) ... 64 (7)
Influence (INF): 38 (-11) ... 38 (-11)

The 3 second RT was aiming, from the open.

Only because you're using a crossbow. It takes you 3 seconds to cock your crank-crossbow. That means the bow user is getting 2 times the output. If you didn't have the crank on that crossbow, it'd be much longer.

[Fallen]

They can reliably aim their shots, achieve those endrolls, and get those kills, all while hiding. Not even an ambusher can manage that. They even get DS pushdown from hiding as well, do they not?

[Widgets]

They can reliably aim their shots, achieve those endrolls, and get those kills, all while hiding. Not even an ambusher can manage that. They even get DS pushdown from hiding as well, do they not?

No DS pushdown...Though staying hiding is effective while shooting. I'd just rather not plink away at something with plate as an Archer....Let's not even get into undead and the amazing bundling mechanics of blessed arrows...heh

[Stretch]

And the they rock everything at cap arguement I find a little skewed as well... Just for comparison I would like to know about what a mage/bard/cleric's average lethality ratio is versus an archer's at cap. Anyone who is capped can make mincemeat out of Ithizir.

For a point of reference, I could average somewhere between 50-60 tritons / sirens per 12 minute hunt with a ranged rogue, using a composite bow. I skipped combatants and undead.

A pure bard that is post-cap can go through roughly 80-90 tritons in the same 12 minute hunt, assuming wrack / sigil of power capabilities.

I'm guessing warriors are significantly slower than either.

[Stretch]

No DS pushdown...Though staying hiding is effective while shooting. I'd just rather not plink away at something with plate as an Archer....Let's not even get into undead and the amazing bundling mechanics of blessed arrows...heh

There is a DS pushdown. Someone told me sniping bypasses shield DS, but I always thought it pushed stance to offensive. Either way, there is a benefit of DS reduction for ranged hiding.

[Widgets]

There is a DS pushdown. Someone told me sniping bypasses shield DS, but I always thought it pushed stance to offensive. Either way, there is a benefit of DS reduction for ranged hiding.

Coulda fooled me then. When I snipe, the DS is just the same as when I'm in the open, or at least seemed to be

[Danical]

There is, Stretch tested it.

I SAW IT IN REAL TIME.

[Widgets]

There is, Stretch tested it.

I SAW IT IN REAL TIME.

Damn You Gnimble....Daaaaaaaamn Yooooou!

[Tisket]

Someone likes gnomes...

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w66/Sassy_Photos_2007/gardengnome.jpg

[Danical]

:lol:

[Sylvan Dreams]

That lady should -not- be in public, much less photographed, wearing that.

[diethx]

Ugh Tisket.

[Widgets]

rofl

[Tisket]

That lady should -not- be in public, much less photographed, wearing that.

Latrin is totally going to drool over those socks.