Belnia's Rift News [Archive] - The Gemstone IV Players' Corner

Khariz

08-09-2008, 04:04 PM

I can't wait for Belnia to post here:

RIFT EXPANSION!

Post cap hunting. Shifting of creatures inside. New area of the rift, not a plane 6.

Expansion itself is still in details.

Approximately level 110ish. New undead. Fear.

EDIT NEW INFO:

Living AND undead creatures.

Minor fear kicks in at 5 levels, sheer fear kicks in at 10.

There are multiple abilities and spells that increase your effective level against fear.

Khariz

08-09-2008, 04:05 PM

I'm fucking happy as hell right now.

Renian

08-09-2008, 04:07 PM

FUCK YEAH.

I just hope there's some living shit. But west dragonspine post-cap FTW!!!

Jinsem

08-09-2008, 04:08 PM

New undead. Fear.

Craziness. When he talked about the 130 area (When I fianlly got to make a SIMUcon) I asked him about Shear Fear at the fourm, and he said it was going to have to be removed. He honestly looked like he never even thought of it. Wonder if they are going to make a new fear system...

Jinsem
Intrigued.

Khariz

08-09-2008, 04:08 PM

I'm stoked as hell. Being able to stay in the Landing/Solhaven/Icemule area makes me happy as shit.

Renian

08-09-2008, 04:10 PM

I'm stoked as hell. Being able to stay in the Landing/Solhaven/Icemule area makes me happy as shit.

I hear ya.

But it won't mean much for me if all the new mobs are undead.

Khariz

08-09-2008, 04:13 PM

I hear ya.

But it won't mean much for me if all the new mobs are undead.

Right now, I'm just happy I've kept my 8x permablessed greataxe around. It might see the light of day again.

Renian

08-09-2008, 04:14 PM

Right now, I'm just happy I've kept my 8x permablessed greataxe around. It might see the light of day again.

Yeah well, I'm an archer. I'd need to get an e-bow. :/

Makkah

08-09-2008, 04:15 PM

Boo @ no Bir Mahallah

Widgets

08-09-2008, 04:15 PM

Yeah well, I'm an archer. I'd need to get a permablessed e-bow. :/

Fixed for you. Since not all e-bows are permablessed..

Renian

08-09-2008, 04:18 PM

The only one that isn't is like what, the poison one?

thefarmer

08-09-2008, 04:20 PM

It'd be cheaper to pick up the chaos bow that's permablessed.

Renian

08-09-2008, 04:21 PM

Stats on the chaos bow?

Renian

08-09-2008, 04:24 PM

Er, Edaarin and Widgets claim that the chaos bow is NOT permablessed good sir.

Morrff

08-09-2008, 04:50 PM

WOW and NICE!...

Bout damn time we're not limited to OTF and Teras!!!

I would have rather seen New Ta'Faendryl show up with a 110 hunting ground open up, but it's just good we're getting a third choice!(and it's NOT on Teras FTW!)

Belnia

08-09-2008, 04:50 PM

Living AND undead creatures.

Minor fear kicks in at 5 levels, sheer fear kicks in at 10.

There are multiple abilities and spells that increase your effective level against fear.

Khariz

08-09-2008, 04:55 PM

Living AND undead creatures.

Minor fear kicks in at 5 levels, sheer fear kicks in at 10.

There are multiple abilities and spells that increase your effective level against fear.

Putting this in the first post!

Kitsun

08-09-2008, 04:55 PM

There are two types of bows that people refer to as "Chaos" bow. The one that morphs into all types of ranged weapons (long, composite, short bow, heavy/light xbow) with different sets of enchant/sighting and the longbows from the WD that will flare any kind of flare randomly.

Renian

08-09-2008, 04:55 PM

Living AND undead creatures.

WIN

Khariz

08-09-2008, 04:56 PM

I'm game. Sounds more difficult than what I'm used to and I greatly welcome that!

Morrff

08-09-2008, 05:05 PM

Minor fear kicks in at 5 levels, sheer fear kicks in at 10.

There are multiple abilities and spells that increase your effective level against fear.

Right but most of those choices include reducing the uber treasure system chances of finding something really sweet!

Which I think is a great way to reduce the amount of rare material items found, because most people facing these critters will want several of the fear reducing spells on. Not that low level characters wouldn't still be able to bring them in just fine, but I'd guess there will be more capped characters hunting the new area then lower level characters group hunting.

Each way's a FTW IMO

Drew

08-09-2008, 05:40 PM

There are multiple abilities and spells that increase your effective level against fear.

Good luck making any of them you can't cast yourself work in the Rift.

Makkah

08-09-2008, 05:51 PM

Good luck making any of them you can't cast yourself work in the Rift.

It's not Plane 6. Who's to say it will use the same spell-drop mechanics of the Rift?

Danical

08-09-2008, 06:51 PM

Interesting . . . I've always thought the Rift was the most interesting and creepy hunting ground.

I hope they make more environmental effects for the Rift in general. Something like the bowels.

crb

08-09-2008, 07:07 PM

Renian

08-09-2008, 07:15 PM

Danical

08-09-2008, 07:15 PM

I dunno, I thought the rift was a perfectly designed and complete area, with plane 5 and the heart and all that.

Anyways... what about the cavern of ages? Can we finally get some benches or something?

You make a good point. The rift is neatly packaged. However, they did say they were going to make this a part of rift but not in the plane format.

Also, CoA needs some serious updates. The pink backpack with flames on it was pretty sweet though.

Asha

08-09-2008, 07:25 PM

1.The critters will probably be immune to puncture :)
2.The fear will be unavoidable for most if not tweaked, which would be stupid.
3.It'll be a sorcerers wet dream either way.

BriarFox

08-09-2008, 07:35 PM

Good luck making any of them you can't cast yourself work in the Rift.

That was my thought. Maybe the new area will be less active in spell-stripping?

Danical

08-09-2008, 07:42 PM

1.The critters will probably be immune to puncture :)
2.The fear will be unavoidable for most if not tweaked, which would be stupid.
3.It'll be a sorcerers wet dream either way.

They are phasing immunities out in favor of resistances.

Every creature on BCS isn't immune to stuff (generally speaking).

Rimalon

08-10-2008, 03:00 AM

It's about damn time.

Too bad they fixed the no casting RT on opening the door to Koar's temple. It adds like 15 agonizing seconds to my Pinefar-to-Rift script.

thefarmer

08-10-2008, 03:42 AM

Er, Edaarin and Widgets claim that the chaos bow is NOT permablessed good sir.

There are two types of bows that people refer to as "Chaos" bow. The one that morphs into all types of ranged weapons (long, composite, short bow, heavy/light xbow) with different sets of enchant/sighting and the longbows from the WD that will flare any kind of flare randomly.

Yeah, that. There's more than one 'chaos bow'.

It's been awhile, but a friend told me she won a randomizing ammo bow from the WD. I'm pretty sure she said it was permablessed, had a low enchant and of course was a short bow.

Methais

08-10-2008, 03:54 AM

Is there an estimated release date for this? I also thought the rift was the overall most awesome area in the game. They need to hurry the fuck up NOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW.

And not make the sheer fear thing massively gay to solo hunters, since I'm blindly guessing that being in a group will help with the fear effects.

HURRY UP YOU FUCKS CAUSE IF YOU DON'T ME AND 5 OF MY FRIENDS WILL QUIT GS AND YOU'LL GO BANKRUPT

It's about damn time.

Too bad they fixed the no casting RT on opening the door to Koar's temple. It adds like 15 agonizing seconds to my Pinefar-to-Rift script.

wtf assholes

Rimalon

08-10-2008, 05:35 AM

Also... when there's 20+ people in the Cavern again...

Kicking up all that sand and pissing people off is going to be pure hilariousness.

Sand kickers FTW.

Suppa Hobbit Mage

08-10-2008, 09:42 AM

Tea & Strumpets

08-10-2008, 11:09 AM

Living AND undead creatures.

Minor fear kicks in at 5 levels, sheer fear kicks in at 10.

There are multiple abilities and spells that increase your effective level against fear.

I'm not sure how relevant that is since you can't wear outside spells in the Rift. Also, none of the spells that affect fear are in the minor elemental or minor spiritual spell circles, so get ready to start shitting your pants squares.

Tea & Strumpets

08-10-2008, 11:11 AM

Oops, looks like that was already mentioned.

Drew

08-10-2008, 01:38 PM

BTW, I totally support this!

Fallen

08-10-2008, 01:48 PM

I just wish they'd make a 100+ in the landing. I love the bowels risk for hunting when I was pre-cap, it'd be neat to see an undiscovered subterranian cavern beneath the bowels even with 100+ critters.

GMs have basically said the landing area is not slated to get any new hunting grounds any time soon due to them having the most out of any other area. People weren't pleased. Note, though, that they consider Solhaven, and Icemule to be completely different areas, so it is always possible that one might be in walking distance with a good script and gold rings.

Danical

08-10-2008, 01:49 PM

True, it takes seconds to get to Icemule from the Landing.

Shit, it takes me longer to get from Teras to Nelemar :(

m444w

08-10-2008, 01:51 PM

Sheer Fear is the mostly worthlessly archaic mechanic in the game. They should just remove it considering there is an EXP cap now. Someone can fight a troll king that can spawn from its own limbs and take an axe to the head at a 600 endroll, but if they see a lost soul they get PWNed into kneeling submission... Weak.

m444w

08-10-2008, 01:55 PM

Nevermind. You can just set your bounties to be out of that range, heh.

Fallen

08-10-2008, 02:09 PM

True, it takes seconds to get to Icemule from the Landing.

Shit, it takes me longer to get from Teras to Nelemar :(

Anyone capped, or near capped could get enough survival not to slip so they can script to icemule in a few seconds, or dash down to Solhaven in a few seconds. You can cut the time down even more if you use rings.

They are effectively all one HUGE area in my book for many intents and purposes.

Danical

08-10-2008, 02:12 PM

Agreed.

Danical

08-10-2008, 02:12 PM

As a side note, how much survival does one need to circumvent the slippage?

Fallen

08-10-2008, 02:17 PM

Completely? I believe Nuadjha said something like 2x to negate the effects entirely. However, his info is scewed as he has self cast sneaking.

m444w

08-10-2008, 02:27 PM

My ranger is 1x and rarely slips, but again... sneaking. I believe it also helps to be in stance offensive. And before someone freaks out, no I haven't scripted back and worth 100 times in offensive stance versus defensive stance and created a pie-chart and plotted a line heading toward the asymptote...

Durgrimst

08-10-2008, 05:02 PM

And before someone freaks out, no I haven't scripted back and worth 100 times in offensive stance versus defensive stance and created a pie-chart and plotted a line heading toward the asymptote...

LOL, this made me laugh pretty for a couple minutes.

BriarFox

08-10-2008, 05:15 PM

Completely? I believe Nuadjha said something like 2x to negate the effects entirely. However, his info is scewed as he has self cast sneaking.

I was talking about the Keen, but even there 2x and blessings lore with self-cast sneaking won't entirely negate slipping. 1x Survival with 5 ranks of blessings lore (first seed benefit) and self-cast sneaking means that you almost always catch yourself if you start to slip on the Icemule trail.

Best info I've got.

Methais

08-10-2008, 05:24 PM

GMs have basically said the landing area is not slated to get any new hunting grounds any time soon due to them having the most out of any other area. People weren't pleased. Note, though, that they consider Solhaven, and Icemule to be completely different areas, so it is always possible that one might be in walking distance with a good script and gold rings.

A post cap area in Solhaven would be the greatest thing in the history of the universe, with the exception of my own birth of course.

thefarmer

08-10-2008, 05:56 PM

A new nelemar like (which from what I understand is a watery temple setting)-but post-cap (maybe up to 130s?) in that lake near solhaven would make sense. Fill it with those invasion creatures that were wandering around, the cyclops titans, wyrms etc.

Edit: Honestly, this is partially why I haven't had any interest in capping... Nothing really to look forward to, other than just grinding for loot or counting the number of creatures before you get 1 training point just seems dull.

Fallen

08-10-2008, 06:04 PM

Ayep. Dull dull dull.

Rimalon

08-10-2008, 06:34 PM

Psh. The game STARTS at cap.

And in my experience, about 60 ranks of survival made me not slip at all.

Methais

08-10-2008, 06:41 PM

Edit: Honestly, this is partially why I haven't had any interest in capping... Nothing really to look forward to, other than just grinding for loot or counting the number of creatures before you get 1 training point just seems dull.

How is this any different from pre-cap?

Renian

08-10-2008, 07:28 PM

The creatures you whack actually change.

Methais

08-10-2008, 07:36 PM

Your actual hunts are usually going to remain mostly the same.

Renian

08-13-2008, 03:57 PM

So was an ETA announced? I'd like to know how many years I need to wait for this.

Some Rogue

08-13-2008, 04:04 PM

So was an ETA announced? I'd like to know how many years I need to wait for this.

Yeah, I don't remember exactly what was said...but I wouldn't look for it before the end of next year. Mestys is a bit busy with monks and the thrown/ranged update.

Danical

08-13-2008, 04:37 PM

I bet anything I'll pile on another 3m exp before this goes life :(

This makes me a sad panda.

EDIT: I bet I could get a monk to cap before this goes live :(

Renian

08-13-2008, 04:43 PM

Yeah, I don't remember exactly what was said...but I wouldn't look for it before the end of next year.

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