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Warriorbird
08-08-2008, 11:34 AM
Here's an article about some of McCain's political tactics throughout his past and the whole 'giving him the benefit of the doubt' standard from the media that's continued for a long while.

It's long. Republicans probably won't be up to reading that far... but it might be more informative for some Democrats and actual Independents.

http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/2008-08-07/news/postmodern-mccain-the-john-mccain-some-arizonans-know-and-loathe/

ClydeR
08-08-2008, 12:03 PM
That article does not mention what I think is the most underreported disturbing thing from McCain's history. McCain has repeatedly said that his main hero for many years, other than Batman presumably, was Robert Jordan.

Jordan was the main character in Hemingway's For Whom the Bell Tolls. He was a socialist who went to Spain to fight in a misguided insurgency against Spain's new government. Jordan became a terrorist in Spain and set bombs to destroy people and infrastructure. In the end, Jordan died a martyr for the insurgency.

McCain liked to fantasize that he was fighting alongside Jordan in the hopeless war to overthrow General Franco.

I can't be the only one who finds that disturbing.

TheEschaton
08-08-2008, 12:40 PM
So are you on Franco's side then, ClydeR?

ClydeR
08-08-2008, 01:24 PM
So are you on Franco's side then, ClydeR?

In another thread, Certain People were complaining about the lack of posts about McCain. Now that Warriorbird started a thread about McCain, I am just trying to add my part.

Nevertheless, I see your point. The real question you are asking is whether or not it is acceptable to use terrorism to overthrow a bad government, such as Franco's dictatorship. And the answer is "No."

Daniel
08-08-2008, 01:26 PM
Thank god the declaration of independence disagrees with you.

ClydeR
08-08-2008, 01:36 PM
Thank god the declaration of independence disagrees with you.

Rebellion is not the same thing as terrorism.

Not only does the Declaration of Independence not condone terrorism, but it actually rejects it. One of the clauses of the DoI indicts King George for inciting the "Indian Savages" against the colonies. That clause, quoted below, is a rejection of terrorism.


He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.

More... (http://www.ushistory.org/Declaration/document/index.htm)