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Sweet Lil Pixie
01-08-2004, 05:49 PM
Hello. I am looking for some help making over a rogue of mine that's been on the back burner for a little while, but I am completely lost on what I should do statwise and training wise. What I want to do is make a OHE two weapon user, who can pick well. If possible (I've been told it may not be) I'd also like to know up to 404 and maybe a little MIU. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Jonty
01-08-2004, 06:09 PM
I'm not saying I'm going to definetly help you..., but it would help if you stated your rogue's level and race.

- Me

Artha
01-08-2004, 06:22 PM
This is probably the best place to go to get your stats done:

Here (http://home.mchsi.com/~cphillips73/StatCruncher/StatCruncher.html).

Kitsun
01-08-2004, 06:22 PM
Yeah what Jonty said.

Basically you need to give some specifications on how well you want to pick - like age, over your head, etc. Also list other side abilities if you want em, skinning, survival, trade.

Sweet Lil Pixie
01-08-2004, 07:22 PM
Yea that information would help!

She's a half elf, level 42. She's currently OHE. I have a few reallocations left, so I'd be willing to do that.

Stats:

Strength (STR): 98 (24) ... 98 (24)
Constitution (CON): 83 (16) ... 83 (16)
Dexterity (DEX): 100 (30) ... 100 (30)
Agility (AGI): 100 (35) ... 100 (35)
Discipline (DIS): 50 (-5) ... 50 (-5)
Aura (AUR): 97 (23) ... 97 (23)
Logic (LOG): 83 (16) ... 83 (16)
Intuition (INT): 65 (7) ... 65 (7)
Wisdom (WIS): 99 (24) ... 99 (24)
Influence (INF): 49 (5) ... 49 (5)

Skills:

Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Armor Use..........................| 142 42
Shield Use.........................| 181 81
Combat Maneuvers...................| 142 42
Edged Weapons......................| 188 88
Ambush.............................| 188 88
Physical Fitness...................| 141 41
Dodging............................| 186 86
Magic Item Use.....................| 54 11
Harness Power......................| 10 2
Survival...........................| 96 22
Disarming Traps....................| 188 88
Picking Locks......................| 228 128
Stalking and Hiding................| 188 88
Perception.........................| 186 86
Climbing...........................| 70 15
Swimming...........................| 70 15
First Aid..........................| 96 22

Sweet Lil Pixie
01-08-2004, 07:24 PM
Oh, I'd like to keep my picking, 3x and 2x disarm with up to 404 if possible. I'd also like to hide and keep .5 survival and .5 first aid. I don't know if that's asking for too much though. Thank you all again.

Artha
01-08-2004, 08:01 PM
You're going to want to bump up Discipline and Intuition. If I were you, I'd take the points out of your (nearly) maxed stats.

I'd 2x-2.5x picking and disarming, and get ~62 ranks of perception. Go for 2-2.5x Stalking and hiding, and I'd guess 2x ambush too.

Kitsun
01-08-2004, 10:32 PM
Okay, since I forgot to mention it and you didn't post it, I had to reverse engineer your starting starts. Given the

theoretical starting TP's I calculated that you have...2362/1763 for TP's at level 42.

I had some issues with stat placement.
CO - Way too high for a rogue.
Dex - A little too high
DIS - Way low
LOG - Blah
INT - Low. Stat for picking and dodging.
Str - Blah
AGL - Toned it down a little.
INF - Blah.
WIS - Too high. No longer factors into picking.
AUR - Blah


New Stats:
CON 20
DEX S 86
DIS 70
LOG 60
INT 70
STR 84
AGL P 80
INF 40
WIS M 70
AUR M 80


New TP: 2288/1799
With spells and picking and whatever, you'll probably need more MTP's.

This plan allows you to...
2x Two Weapon Combat
1x Armor
1x Combat Maneuver
2x Edged
2x Ambush
1x Physical fitness
2x Dodging
4 ranks in Spell Research
2x Disarm
3x Lockpick
2x Hiding
2x Perception

Your left with 196/39

Your options for those points are...
You can pick up some extra armor ranks and push up your AsG.
Pick up PT for more redux.
Pick up the MIU ranks
I would recommend some ranks in Arcane Symbol as it does help disarming downed scarabs.

I think I managed to fit in just about everything you asked for.

Edaarin
01-08-2004, 11:05 PM
Drop perception to 1x, and put up 402 everytime you disarm a trap. Drop lockpick to 2x, you'll be able to pick your own boxes with 2x/lore fine up till about level 70. Stick those extra TP's into getting as close as you can to 3x dodge, you're going to need it.

EDIT: I disagree, tanking CO is a bad idea for a square.

CON 70
DEX S 80
DIS 73
LOG 73
INT 65
STR 70
AGL P 70
INF 20
WIS M 57
AUR M 82

Those were my starting stats, they cap out at like 8 100's and 2 70's I think.

[Edited on 1-9-2004 by Edaarin]

StrayRogue
01-08-2004, 11:19 PM
CO determines encumberance and Stamina as well as HP and HP regen. 2x perception is good if you wish to aim well. Don't bother if you are less than 2xing Ambush.

Kitsun
01-08-2004, 11:37 PM
Wooooo. Just realized I forgot to train you in HP, Climbing and Swimming! *coughs* You've got a few less points to work with than I figured. Get as much as will make you feel comfortable.