Fate or Determination or...?

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Fate or Determination or a little of both? Do you believe that every event in your life is pre-planned? Do you believe you are the master of your own determination? Do you believe it could be a little of both?

My own opinion? Glad you asked. I’m going to go with 3/4 determination, 1/4 destiny. While I believe strongly that the decisions I have made in life have led me to where I am now I cannot ignore certain random instances along that course that have helped to shape it, and my life, in some way.

I always enter controlled or uncontrolled situations with open eyes. The world can deal you a shitty hand sometimes but when that happens it can only get better. I admit to over-optimisticism but I would never call that naive rationalization. Any situation you get into, as random as it may be, is dependent on your reaction. The outcome? You get thrown into it, you figure out what to do.

[Keller]

. . . This is your brain on drugs.

[Stanley Burrell]

Fate or Determination or a little of both? Do you believe that every event in your life is pre-planned? Do you believe you are the master of your own determination? Do you believe it could be a little of both?

My own opinion? Glad you asked. I’m going to go with 3/4 determination, 1/4 destiny. While I believe strongly that the decisions I have made in life have led me to where I am now I cannot ignore certain random instances along that course that have helped to shape it, and my life, in some way.

I always enter controlled or uncontrolled situations with open eyes. The world can deal you a shitty hand sometimes but when that happens it can only get better. I admit to over-optimisticism but I would never call that naive rationalization. Any situation you get into, as random as it may be, is dependent on your reaction. The outcome? You get thrown into it, you figure out what to do.

When you exercise your brain, whether or not it's plugged into the Matrix or a box-within-a-box, or an outlet, the words and emotions that people ascribe fatalism to is what is governing your ability to make you think control exists. The only constant in the universe, whatever universe we can interpret or cannot, is the absolute truth that there is no control. If you make yourself the one physically immortal human being in the most physical sense and survive the apocalypse, fate already governed that.

There is not a damned bit of separation between my past, present or future when it comes to fate. Each of our lives has passed and our future will become our present and past, eventually. These own bullshit ideas of fate I hold have been fated to happen at this precise moment as I type "Submit Reply." If you don't see this post because I decided not to press the text ejaculation trophy button, that would not have been an act of freewill either.

There is so much about this universe we don't understand. Even when science narrows God down to the uncertainty of life after death + space/time continuum, that is a chapter already written in a book. If it happens it does, if it doesn't, it doesn't. If we all die tomorrow, fate will still exist. If we all live, it's still there. Fate is bigger than any ability of our tiny brains to wrap itself around. Freewill isn't.

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. . . This is your brain on drugs.

Do you speak from experience or have you been slamming your head against thick law books again?

Seriously, your opinion on the topic would be interesting seeing as you are a law-man.

[Keller]

Do you speak from experience or have you been slamming your head against thick law books again?

Seriously, your opinion on the topic would be interesting seeing as you are a law-man.

Are you asking if I've been stoned and posed basic philosophical cliche as though I was a deep person?

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Are you asking if I've been stoned and posed basic philosophical cliche as though I was a deep person?

No. I already know your opinion about me... I was curious about your opinion on the topic. If you have or had one.

[Stanley Burrell]

No. I already know your opinion about me... I was curious about your opinion on the topic. If you have or had one.

A cognitive brain that has what it perceives as any notion about fate vs. freewill, including nothing, has already gathered an opinion about it.

Yes/no/too much free time?

[Sthrockmorton]

Fate or Determination or a little of both? Do you believe that every event in your life is pre-planned? Do you believe you are the master of your own determination? Do you believe it could be a little of both?

My own opinion? Glad you asked. I’m going to go with 3/4 determination, 1/4 destiny. While I believe strongly that the decisions I have made in life have led me to where I am now I cannot ignore certain random instances along that course that have helped to shape it, and my life, in some way.

I always enter controlled or uncontrolled situations with open eyes. The world can deal you a shitty hand sometimes but when that happens it can only get better. I admit to over-optimisticism but I would never call that naive rationalization. Any situation you get into, as random as it may be, is dependent on your reaction. The outcome? You get thrown into it, you figure out what to do.

100% determination. I refuse to give credit to an unknown force for the things I've worked hard and accomplished in my life.

On that same note, there is no one to blame but myself for the times I have slacked off or wasnt steadfast in reaching my goals.

I hate when people say something "just wasnt meant to be." Even worse, I hate when people give credit to "God" for feats they worked relentlessly to accomplish.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Are you asking if I've been stoned and posed basic philosophical cliche as though I was a deep person?


ROFL. No matter how long it is between reading the PC, it always delivers.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y216/imagedream/Funny/wonderwoman.gif

[Stanley Burrell]

100% determination. I refuse to give credit to an unknown force for the things I've worked hard and accomplished in my life.

On that same note, there is no one to blame but myself for the times I have slacked off or wasnt steadfast in reaching my goals.

I hate when people say something "just wasnt meant to be." Even worse, I hate when people give credit to "God" for feats they worked relentlessly to accomplish.

You are your interpretation of God, if you believe it. Anything you or I, he or she, us or them believe to be true will be. I have no qualms in truthfully believing that people will believe in things with certain gradations of truth.

That being said, is freewill or fate the unknown force you're referring to?

[Stanley Burrell]

ROFL. No matter how long it is between reading the PC, it always delivers.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y216/imagedream/Funny/wonderwoman.gif

That is far more sophisticated than being deep. The actual deep, your interpretation of it. And by sophisticated, I mean synonymous to evolution, which is the eradication of our prefrontal cortex: A vestigial mechanism. I don't need to run from a lion or tiger. I need to laugh at Wonder Women pictures because my body produces endorphins when the computer screen projects images that require less time bouncing back and forth in my brain.

Simplicity is absolutely sophistication. It is power through weakness.

[Sthrockmorton]

You are your interpretation of God, if you believe it. Anything you or I, he or she, us or them believe to be true will be. I have no qualms in truthfully believing that people will believe in things with certain gradations of truth.

That being said, is freewill or fate the unknown force you're referring to?

Fate. In my eyes, freewill is not unknown.

[TheEschaton]

Fate or Determination or a little of both? Do you believe that every event in your life is pre-planned? Do you believe you are the master of your own determination? Do you believe it could be a little of both?

My own opinion? Glad you asked. I’m going to go with 3/4 determination, 1/4 destiny. While I believe strongly that the decisions I have made in life have led me to where I am now I cannot ignore certain random instances along that course that have helped to shape it, and my life, in some way.

I always enter controlled or uncontrolled situations with open eyes. The world can deal you a shitty hand sometimes but when that happens it can only get better. I admit to over-optimisticism but I would never call that naive rationalization. Any situation you get into, as random as it may be, is dependent on your reaction. The outcome? You get thrown into it, you figure out what to do.

I think I may be fated to tell you to go die in a fire.

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I think I may be fated to tell you to go die in a fire.

Then you’ll be disappointed to know that I don’t believe what random crazy people say to me.

[TheEschaton]

Then you’ll be disappointed to know that I don’t believe what random crazy people say to me.

Unless you're drinking beer by yourself out of a paper bag next to a dumpster, and said crazy person is what you consider an attractive black woman who really believes in your emotional psychodrama.

-TheE-

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Unless you're drinking beer by yourself out of a paper bag next to a dumpster, and said crazy person is what you consider an attractive black woman who really believes in your emotional psychodrama.

-TheE-

Fate or Determination?

[Sthrockmorton]

Fate or Determination?

Crazy pills

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The red one, or the blue one.

[Stanley Burrell]

Fate. In my eyes, freewill is not unknown.

In the future, do the acts of freewill you exercise have any element of uncertainty? If your freewill is, as I'm imagining, fluid and enduring of your cognitive lifespan, what doesn't seem controlling about that? If you're always in control of your freewill, is that not the very essence of fate itself defining the point-A-to-point-B course your freewill will take. This is assuming you aren't completely certain about the actions your freewill will bring you in the future.

What is your somewhat nutshell definition of fate?

(I am genuinely interested in what anyone has to say about the matter. Not even as a debate or an argument, but opinions and whys.)

[Nieninque]

How the fuck can you have 1/4 of destiny?

[Tisket]

How the fuck can you have 1/4 of destiny?

Your mistake was in thinking he should make some kind of sense. It's BL for chrissakes.

[Nieninque]

Your mistake was in thinking he should make some kind of sense. It's BL for chrissakes.

I admonish my cat for doing stupid things. I dont give any breaks to stupid people.

[Tisket]

I dont give any breaks to stupid people.

I wouldn't have it any other way.

[Daniel]

100% determination. I refuse to give credit to an unknown force for the things I've worked hard and accomplished in my life.

On that same note, there is no one to blame but myself for the times I have slacked off or wasnt steadfast in reaching my goals.

I hate when people say something "just wasnt meant to be." Even worse, I hate when people give credit to "God" for feats they worked relentlessly to accomplish.

Lol.

So someone who has autism, or is T-boned by a drunk driver was 100% in control of their fate in life?

Get over yourself.

[Latrinsorm]

The world can deal you a shitty hand sometimes but when that happens it can only get better.A person could be the worst off any person has ever been - and it could get worse.
A person could be the worst off any person could ever imagine - and it could get worse.
A person could be the worst off any person could possibly be - and it could still get worse.

Fortune's arsenal far exceeds lemons, slings, and arrows. Life almost always is going to get worse rather than better, and it's almost always shitty to start with. The challenge is not to deduce free will vs. fate, the challenge is to be resolute in the face of a bleak and unforgiving reality.

:welcome:

[Clove]

Thanx Camus.

[Gan]

Are you asking if I've been stoned and posed basic philosophical cliche as though I was a deep person?
lol


Unless you're drinking beer by yourself out of a paper bag next to a dumpster, and said crazy person is what you consider an attractive black woman who really believes in your emotional psychodrama.

-TheE-
lol x 2


A person could be the worst off any person has ever been - and it could get worse.
A person could be the worst off any person could ever imagine - and it could get worse.
A person could be the worst off any person could possibly be - and it could still get worse.

Fortune's arsenal far exceeds lemons, slings, and arrows. Life almost always is going to get worse rather than better, and it's almost always shitty to start with. The challenge is not to deduce free will vs. fate, the challenge is to be resolute in the face of a bleak and unforgiving reality.

:welcome:

nice