General Staff complaints

[thefarmer]

I figured a general thread about little things that piss you off about staff would be worth making.

Here's one about Andraste:

I badnamed Hollister, and sent the link to the company's website. A little while later I got this.

SEND[Andraste] Just because you can find a web site for someone with the same name doesn't make the name bad.

>report From policy: Copyrighted or trademarked names.... Hollister is a well known clothing company. If I named a character Gap or LaneBryant would that be ok?

SEND[Andraste] First time I ever heard of it. To me, Hollister is the name of a city near where I grew up in Massachusetts, as well as earthquake central here in California. Therefore... Hollister isn't quite the brand name as Lanebryant -- especiall with his last name, which brings up nothing.

>report You aren't a 20-30's something person that shops in the mall. Check this link, if you doubt me. http://www.hollisterco.com/storelocator/search.do

SEND[Andraste] It's not up for discussion. First, he's past level 10; second - I already said it's as familiar as Lanebryant, Diesel, etc.

>report No. You didn't say it was as familiar as Lane Bryant. You-" First time I ever heard of it." and "Therefore... Hollister isn't quite the brand name as Lanebryant"

SEND[Andraste] Right, it's not as familiar, not quite in the same brand familiar category. Have a lovely evening.

>Report This--"SEND[Andraste] It's not up for discussion. First, he's past level 10; second - I already said it's as familiar as Lanebryant, Diesel, etc." (Is exactly the opposite of)--" Right, it's not as familiar, not quite in the same brand familiar category." Have a lovely morning.

SEND[Andraste] I'm dyslexic. Thanks for spotting my typo

[Baelog]

WAIT WAIT WAIT!!!

Shouldn't this go in the "Andraste makes me want to punch babies" thread? Because...well...that example MAKES ME WANT TO PUNCH BABIES

[Brielus]

Probably futile but write feedback. Andraste has enemies from within simu... crush her from within and her fatrolls will quiver.

[Krendeli]

I think it's funny she brought up Lane Bryant. She recognizes fat fuck clothes, but not skinny fuck clothes.

[Sean]

To be fair.. he brought up Lane Bryant

[Bobmuhthol]

Hollister

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Hollister can refer to:
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[[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hollister&action=edit&section=1"]edit (http://forum.gsplayers.com/)] Places in the United States


Hollister, California (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollister%2C_California)
Hollister, Florida (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollister%2C_Florida)
Hollister, Idaho (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollister%2C_Idaho)
Hollister, Missouri (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollister%2C_Missouri)
Hollister, Oklahoma (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollister%2C_Oklahoma)
Hollister Ranch (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollister_Ranch), a ranch north of Santa Barbara, California
Hollister, North Carolina (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollister%2C_North_Carolina), center of the Haliwa-Saponi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haliwa-Saponi) Native American tribe
What was that about Hollister, MA, Andraste?

[CrystalTears]

I'm still wondering why you badnamed Hollister. It's not a brand and isn't exclusive to a company.

[Bobmuhthol]

Hollister is a brand, wtf are you talking about?

[Paradii]

Never heard of it. But I'll cast a vote for burn the bitch because she made me change "Brudduhiz" and "Brudduhwuz"

[CrystalTears]

I mean it's not a national brand that everyone would know what it is.

[Bobmuhthol]

Hollister Co.'s popularity amongst its target customers has grown undeniably strong, as a study by US Bancorp (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_Bancorp) Piper Jaffray (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piper_Jaffray) reveals that the brand has ranked 1st for four consecutive seasons as Teens' Top Clothing Brand since 2007.

It is, actually, a very national brand and most people know what it is.

[CrystalTears]

Not most people. I still don't see the big deal with the name.

[Warriorbird]

Don't be surprised by this.

I badnamed Capone and Stalin.

I was told they 'weren't known enough.'

Basically... if it is a new account, nothing will be done, if it is a long term account, Andraste will complain about ANYTHING.

The policy is a joke.

[Bobmuhthol]

Right, not most people... assuming most people don't have eyes or ears. This assumption is wrong, however.

<<I was told they 'weren't known enough.'>>

If GMs were history majors, they'd be more apt to realize how badly Simutronics is run as a company.

[Sean]

I'd say most people 25 and under know that Hollister is a clothing brand, or just anyone who shops at A&F (I do not). I think she would have just been better served saying the character is too old for a forced name change than trying to insert her personal knowledge of fashion into the argument.

[BigWorm]

Hollister is then new Abercrombie and Fitch people. Actually not even new. They were that 10 years ago. Fucking old people.

[Some Rogue]

Never heard of it either.

Sorry Bob, the world isn't made up of teenagers and it doesn't revolve around them.

[Hips]

I'd rather they do something about people like "Omnitrunks Skywalker" than Hollister.

[Bobmuhthol]

<<Hollister is then new Abercrombie and Fitch people.>>

Hollister is a subsidiary of Abercrombie and Fitch.

<<Fucking old people.>>

I agree.

<<Sorry Bob, the world isn't made up of teenagers and it doesn't revolve around them.>>

Okay, just because people here are fucking blind to the world doesn't mean Hollister isn't one of the biggest company names in mainstream America.

[Fallen]

Never heard of them.

[Allereli]

I feel old :(

[radamanthys]

Oh... hollister. The only store that has more nudity in their 'models' (read: half-naked teenage walmart greeters), than Abercrombie.

Louder music and more obnoxious clientele, as well.

[Paradii]

Okay, just because people here are fucking blind to the world doesn't mean Hollister isn't one of the biggest company names in mainstream America.

Oh noesssss teenage angst attack!

A lot of people just don't pay attention to whatever stupidity kids these days are wearing.

[thefarmer]

Just about every mall I've been to along the Gulf and east coasts has a Hollister in it. It's nation wide, and the link I posted her shows a ton of them in CA, since she mentioned that's where she lived.

There's not a Chevron gas station that I know of within 50 miles of my house. Does that mean it's not a nationally recognized brand name either?

[thefarmer]

I think she would have just been better served saying the character is too old for a forced name change than trying to insert her personal knowledge of fashion into the argument.


If she would have just said the character was too old, I wouldn't have bothered replying to her.

[DCSL]

I like to pants the mannequins at Hollister but I've never been inside one. The male mannequins have HUGE bulges. I'm not sure what they're trying to say. Guys who shop at Hollister and wear Hollister clothes are packin'? Whatever. But I still know the brand.

I wish I had a log of Khaladon telling me that there was nothing wrong with the name Stefanigwen and because he didn't recognize it, it was okay. I think that was also the first time I learned there was a different policy in effect for those with new accounts versus old. I remember being shocked at the time but now after everything that's happened, I wonder why I didn't see it myself.

[BigWorm]

Yeah seriously they are in pretty much every mall that I have ever been to.

[Some Rogue]

I like to pants the mannequins at Hollister but I've never been inside one. The male mannequins have HUGE bulges. I'm not sure what they're trying to say. Guys who shop at Hollister and wear Hollister clothes are packin'?

No, guys who shop there like dudes with big dicks.

[SayGoodbye]

Never heard of it either.

Sorry Bob, the world isn't made up of teenagers and it doesn't revolve around them.

Not a teenager and I recognize the name as a clothing brand.

Also I believe she meant Holliston. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holliston,_Massachusetts

Isn't Pepperell in Middlesex County as well?

[Bobmuhthol]

Yeah, Pepperell's in Middlesex County, but it borders NH. I'm like an hour from Holliston. Doesn't stop Andraste from being wrong.

[NocturnalRob]

No, guys who shop there like dudes with big dicks.

zing!

hollister, american eagle, A&F, blah blah blah...

No one's gotten laid in cargo shorts since 'Nam.

[Kyra231]

Hell I am old & I've heard of Hollister. Andraste needs to gtfo away from her computer once in a while.

~K.

[War Angel]

Im in the 30+ club and recognize Hollister. Their SoCal fragrance is my personal fav this summer. :)

[Gan]

I'm familiar with Hollister too. I really like how they dress future/current strippers*.

*female

[SolitareConfinement]

I'm familiar with Hollister too. I really like how they dress future/current strippers*.

*female



AMEN to that!

[Mighty Nikkisaurus]

gretche403 (10:38:10 PM): apparently Emerand or whatever his name is hid a bunch of posts on that thread
gretche403 (10:38:14 PM): so a lot of people were pissed
gretche403 (10:38:15 PM): lol
Lady Adriata (10:38:20 PM): Emeradan
Lady Adriata (10:38:21 PM): and yeah
Lady Adriata (10:38:26 PM): he is a class A douche machine

This pretty much sums up my feelings on Emeradan though it really would take far too much time to list out all my complaints against him.

[Rocktar]

Yep, had a lot of posts hidden from him of late. Not happy, no, not happy at all.

Rocktar

[AnticorRifling]

Im in the 30+ club and recognize Hollister. Their SoCal fragrance is my personal fav this summer. :)


/vomit

Their colognes are shit. Same with A&F, AE, etc. I don't think some of their clothes are bad it's just too bad a 2XL shirt doesn't fit my chest/shoulders/arms. Gratz on making your sizes for the tiny and then putting a bigger label on them so those kids feel big....

[LadyLaphrael]

Gratz on making your sizes for the tiny and then putting a bigger label on them so those kids feel big....

Y'gotta promote teenage eating disorders somehow, right?

[Gan]

/vomit

Their colognes are shit. Same with A&F, AE, etc. I don't think some of their clothes are bad it's just too bad a 2XL shirt doesn't fit my chest/shoulders/arms. Gratz on making your sizes for the tiny and then putting a bigger label on them so those kids feel big....

Please tell me you were given Hollister clothes as a gift and didnt actually buy them voluntarily.

:lol:

[Skeeter]

the only thing I can wear at Hollister is the pants. Not a bad shop overall and I'm in my 30s now :(

I've seen pictures of Andraste, and does this look like a person who would shop at Hollister or the mall in general? http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/muppet/images/thumb/f/f1/Ma_gorg.jpg/83px-Ma_gorg.jpg

[Hips]

the only thing I can wear at Hollister is the pants. Not a bad shop overall and I'm in my 30s now :(

I've seen pictures of Andraste, and does this look like a person who would shop at Hollister or the mall in general? http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/muppet/images/thumb/f/f1/Ma_gorg.jpg/83px-Ma_gorg.jpg

OMG don't say things like that about Ma Gorg! :( :(

[Brielus]

wow, fraggles......i miss fraggles.... i miss doozers.... JESUS IM GONNA BE 30 THIS WEEKEND!... michi just crushed my day in one fel lil picture.

[Warriorbird]

1 more year for me.

[DaCapn]

I think Hollister is okay as a name. It might be because I've never heard of the store/brand. I'd probably get an eye twitch seeing someone named Abercrombie running around. I find (not)names like "Doomslayr" to be a lot more irritating. That being said, the GM did have a pretty crap attitude about it but somehow I imagine their patience with BADNAME (valid or not) has been worn pretty thin.

I find it amusing that people who have never heard of Hollister are being told to get away from the computer and open their eyes to the world... at a fucking mall.

[SayGoodbye]

I think Hollister is okay as a name. It might be because I've never heard of the store/brand. I'd probably get an eye twitch seeing someone named Abercrombie running around. I find (not)names like "Doomslayr" to be a lot more irritating. That being said, the GM did have a pretty crap attitude about it but somehow I imagine their patience with BADNAME (valid or not) has been worn pretty thin.

I find it amusing that people who have never heard of Hollister are being told to get away from the computer and open their eyes to the world... at a fucking mall.

No. Andraste needs to get away from the computer.

[CrystalTears]

I find it amusing that people who have never heard of Hollister are being told to get away from the computer and open their eyes to the world... at a fucking mall.
No. Andraste needs to get away from the computer.
True, but it was being said to people here who hadn't heard of it as well. I'm sorry that I don't follow teen fashion and/or don't hang out at the mall enough to notice it.

[Skeeter]

Is the problem you can't buy ren-faire outfits at the mall?

[CrystalTears]

Is the problem you can't buy ren-faire outfits at the mall?
Damn straight. They have to be hand made or bought at the faire. Smartass. :tongue:

[Fallen]

you can find anything online.

[SayGoodbye]

True, but it was being said to people here who hadn't heard of it as well. I'm sorry that I don't follow teen fashion and/or don't hang out at the mall enough to notice it.

Oh, I only noticed Kyra's post as saying to get away from the computer and that was directed at Andraste.

[Methais]

This thread made me think of this thread.

http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?t=9238

Unfortunately the pic in the OP is gone now :(


No. Andraste needs to get away from the computer.

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a162/DoyleHargraves/PCAddict.jpg

[Stretch]

I feel old :(

> 24 = old

[Danical]

You shut your mouth.

I'm almost 27 :(

[ViridianAsp]

Hollister is an English family name from the Gloucester Region of England, United Kingdom, now most populous in the United States of America. In 1992, it was estimated that there were 2204 households in the USA, 94 in Canada, 81 in Australia, 21 in New Zealand, 3 in Denmark and 371 in Great Britain.

From Wikipedia too. It's an English family name, therefore, well within Gemstone rules.

For the record, I don't like agreeing with Andraste...but, she's right.

[Sean]

That doesn't mean it's not a trademarked brand.

[Bobmuhthol]

Andraste did not cite that, so she's wrong. Also, since when does someone having a name in America/England mean it's okay in GemStone? If that's the case, I'll roll David Nigger (http://www.zabasearch.com/maps/?sname1=DAVID%20NIGGER&sname=DAVID%20%20NIGGER&first=DAVID&last=NIGGER&middle=&state=GA&address=2731%20PANGBORN%20RD&city=DECATUR&zipcode=30033&&cm=04&cy=2001&phone=) without a second thought.

[ViridianAsp]

That doesn't mean it's not a trademarked brand.


The name Hollister has been around longer than a it being Trademarked. Does that mean people with the last name of Hollister should be running to change their last names because it's trademarked?

If that is the case I better go and have my last name of Smith changed! Because I'm sure there are trademarks on it too.

[Sean]

The name Hollister has been around longer than a it being Trademarked. Does that mean people with the last name of Hollister should be running to change their last names because it's trademarked?

If that is the case I better go and have my last name of Smith changed! Because I'm sure there are trademarks on it too.

Are you really trying to apply the rules of gemstone to real life? As he pointed out to Andraste Policy 6 says:

The following guidelines are in place to ensure a high level of consistency among the names of the adventurers within our community. Players consistently creating names that violate the guidelines may be formally warned or face suspension of playing privileges.

- Copyrighted or trademarked names. (Nintendo, Lucasfilm, Chevy)

[thefarmer]

The name Hollister has been around longer than a it being Trademarked. Does that mean people with the last name of Hollister should be running to change their last names because it's trademarked?

If that is the case I better go and have my last name of Smith changed! Because I'm sure there are trademarks on it too.

I should roll up Harry Potter then.

[SayGoodbye]

I thought it was understood that RL does not equal GS? I'm pretty sure the character Hollister has not been around longer than the clothing brand Hollister.

[Latrinsorm]

It's an English family name, therefore, well within Gemstone rules.Like Churchill, for instance? How about Gehrig?

[g++]

I should roll up Harry Potter then.

And then smoke it

[Daniel]

The name Hollister has been around longer than a it being Trademarked. Does that mean people with the last name of Hollister should be running to change their last names because it's trademarked?

If that is the case I better go and have my last name of Smith changed! Because I'm sure there are trademarks on it too.

Seriously? Did you fall down the stairs and hit your head? Do you require medical attention? Or are you just that fucking retarded?

[LMingrone]

" Exacto has already been reported to the staff, and they have recorded a response:

There is nothing about this name that violates our current naming policies (Xacto is the brand name, not Exacto)."

Go me.

[RichardCranium]

*Panasonik should be good to go then.

Badname policy is a fucking joke.




*Unless its an English family name. Someone check wikipedia to back this up, please?

[ViridianAsp]

Seriously? Did you fall down the stairs and hit your head? Do you require medical attention? Or are you just that fucking retarded?

No there are a lot of common and popular names in the game, but they have origins from before being a trademark.

For instance, I have a character named Hadya, if all the sudden next week some stupid ass movie comes out and makes the name popular, does that mean my character is null and void?

Come on, guys.

[Daniel]

No, but that's a far cry from suggesting that people in real life should be changing their names.

[Methais]

No there are a lot of common and popular names in the game, but they have origins from before being a trademark.

For instance, I have a character named Hadya, if all the sudden next week some stupid ass movie comes out and makes the name popular, does that mean my character is null and void?

Come on, guys.

Had the character Hollister existed before the brand, you'd have a point.

Unfortunately, you just made yourself look dumb instead.

ON TOPIC: How did I get pulled for RASTLEY when they allow this garbage? /facepalm

[Flurbins]

Seriously, not that I have anything against the guy, but as long as Lulz is running around the staff have no business enforcing their naming policy.

[thefarmer]

It always seems like the people he likes can post whatever the fuck they want.. but if he doesn't like you, your shit gets yanked and you get a smarmy email.



2. Catwoman and other superheros of the slut genre.

Same poster that gets away with slut, has said assholes at least twice in other posts.

Edit: He also likes to give out smartass insults to people, but is quick to yank any hint of someone giving the same back to him.

[waywardgs]

Seems like Emeradan runs the boards like his personal fiefdom.

[Rimalon]

Dear RIMALON,

The following message has been removed from the Developer's Corner - Empaths topic for the use of a masked vulgarity, which is a violation of Simutronics Terms and Conditions (TAC). The policy states that the use of certain words or phrases is forbidden in Simutronics products since this is a family-oriented service.

The problem area of this post was:

>>You've just survived, when before you were SOL.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Had the character Hollister existed before the brand, you'd have a point.

Unfortunately, you just made yourself look dumb instead.

ON TOPIC: How did I get pulled for RASTLEY when they allow this garbage? /facepalm

This is why (http://smouch.net/lol/)

[Parkbandit]

TRAP ALERT

[g++]

rickrolled at work..dammit

[Jaimaltz]

rickrolled at work..dammit

noscript is your friend.

[Methais]

This is why (http://smouch.net/lol/)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNLuq0lW50k
http://www.robdurdle.com/2008/02/17/images/That-Is-A_Trap_Star_Wars-thumb-450x584.jpg

[Lord Orbstar]

There is nothing wrong with the name Hollister for a character.... Just like is someone opens a new chain store called "Dartaghan's Donuts" you arent gonna badname that. I would hope.

Ya, in this case Andraste was in the right and you came off as the tool. Sorry. Way to spot the typo. You are on it. Like a big cock.

[Methais]

The difference is that Dartaghan's Donuts would have existed after the character name did.

If someone named themself Jarjarbinks before Episode I came out, you wouldn't badname that either. If they did after though, you can bet it would be yanked. Unless Andraste hasn't seen Star Wars, then it would be perfectly ok. Because if it's something she's never heard of, it must not exist.

[Warriorbird]

Like Stalin or Capone.

As I said... it comes down to 'new account get a pass' old account 'you want to name your character Mercantilism? Never!'

[Methais]

Maybe I should make a new account on another CC and name my character Santaclaus. Then once he's 10, I'll transfer him to my normal account.

[thefarmer]

There is nothing wrong with the name Hollister for a character.... Just like is someone opens a new chain store called "Dartaghan's Donuts" you arent gonna badname that. I would hope.

Ya, in this case Andraste was in the right and you came off as the tool. Sorry. Way to spot the typo. You are on it. Like a big cock.

I don't Badname things IRL, my FrontEnd doesn't support it. Apparently yours does? Damn. I should switch. What color is your RL FE? Does it have sound and global highlights? Does it support Psinet?!?!?!?!

[Misun]

I figured a general thread about little things that piss you off about staff would be worth making.

Here's one about Andraste:

I badnamed Hollister, and sent the link to the company's website. A little while later I got this.

SEND[Andraste] Just because you can find a web site for someone with the same name doesn't make the name bad.

>report From policy: Copyrighted or trademarked names.... Hollister is a well known clothing company. If I named a character Gap or LaneBryant would that be ok?

SEND[Andraste] First time I ever heard of it. To me, Hollister is the name of a city near where I grew up in Massachusetts, as well as earthquake central here in California. Therefore... Hollister isn't quite the brand name as Lanebryant -- especiall with his last name, which brings up nothing.

>report You aren't a 20-30's something person that shops in the mall. Check this link, if you doubt me. http://www.hollisterco.com/storelocator/search.do

SEND[Andraste] It's not up for discussion. First, he's past level 10; second - I already said it's as familiar as Lanebryant, Diesel, etc.

>report No. You didn't say it was as familiar as Lane Bryant. You-" First time I ever heard of it." and "Therefore... Hollister isn't quite the brand name as Lanebryant"

SEND[Andraste] Right, it's not as familiar, not quite in the same brand familiar category. Have a lovely evening.

>Report This--"SEND[Andraste] It's not up for discussion. First, he's past level 10; second - I already said it's as familiar as Lanebryant, Diesel, etc." (Is exactly the opposite of)--" Right, it's not as familiar, not quite in the same brand familiar category." Have a lovely morning.

SEND[Andraste] I'm dyslexic. Thanks for spotting my typo



Whoa...wait....!!!! This coming from the person who made me change my level twelve ranger named Tricity because it made her think of the New York area?! And it wasn't even badnamed by anyone, this came from her. Now I'm pissed big time.

Sorry for the late reply, just read this thread. <growl>

[Latrinsorm]

Warriorbird, maybe you haven't heard, but Stalin is a Russian family name, so it's perfectly appropriate for a last name in GS.

[BigWorm]

Warriorbird, maybe you haven't heard, but Stalin is a Russian family name, so it's perfectly appropriate for a last name in GS.

Sweet. I need to put together an MA crew of Hitler, Mussolini, and Franco since that will be perfectly IG.

[RichardCranium]

Whoa...wait....!!!! This coming from the person who made me change my level twelve ranger named Tricity because it made her think of the New York area?! And it wasn't even badnamed by anyone, this came from her. Now I'm pissed big time.

Sorry for the late reply, just read this thread. <growl>

That is gay, because when I see Tricity I want to pronounce it like Tris-ah-tee not Tri-city.

[Mighty Nikkisaurus]

That is gay, because when I see Tricity I want to pronounce it like Tris-ah-tee not Tri-city.

Same here. I didn't even notice it as "Tri-city" until it was pointed out.

[BigWorm]

Same here. I didn't even notice it as "Tri-city" until it was pointed out.

word

[Gan]

Hollister is an English family name from the Gloucester Region of England, United Kingdom, now most populous in the United States of America. In 1992, it was estimated that there were 2204 households in the USA, 94 in Canada, 81 in Australia, 21 in New Zealand, 3 in Denmark and 371 in Great Britain.

From Wikipedia too. It's an English family name, therefore, well within Gemstone rules.

For the record, I don't like agreeing with Andraste...but, she's right.

So its ok if my next warrior is named Chuck Norris?

What about my next wizard being Harry Houdini?

I dont think famous or extraordinary names count as well within Gemstone rules.

Otherwise I'm going to roll up my next bard as David Hasselhoff.

[BigWorm]

Ronald McDonald coming up bitches. I mean McDonald is a common Scottish last name, duh.

[Misun]

That is gay, because when I see Tricity I want to pronounce it like Tris-ah-tee not Tri-city.

And that is what I thought of as well. I mentioned this before, changed one letter to make it Trisity but haven't played her since. Just didn't want to start over. And it just wasn't the same.

[Gan]

I miss the log that someone made rolling up Superman on the old GS3 cracked website. (circa 1997?)

I laughed my ass of when I read that.

[Latrinsorm]

Otherwise I'm going to roll up my next bard as David Hasselhoff.:no:

[Some Rogue]

I miss the log that someone made rolling up Superman on the old GS3 cracked website. (circa 1997?)

I laughed my ass of when I read that.


http://www.krakiipedia.org/wiki/Last_chance_inn_%28saved_post%29

[Some Rogue]

No Superman, but a ton of funny ones.

[Gan]

Thanks!

:)

[BriarFox]

From Wikipedia too. It's an English family name, therefore, well within Gemstone rules.

For the record, I don't like agreeing with Andraste...but, she's right.

Andraste just responded on the officials that she wouldn't make a bodysuit even if it existed in the Middle Ages because people now would PERCEIVE it as something modern. Hypocrisy, thy name is Andraste.

[thefarmer]

Re: Simu Customer service (THE BODYSUIT RETURNS!!) &#183; on 7/24/2008 12:14:38 PM Generate a link to this post in a pop-up window. 41111
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I would make armor body leather, but I would not make a bodysuit out of either armor or clothing, because of the modern connotation (despite any supporting medieval etymology) that others would perceive.

Here's some iconography of 12th Century acrobats:

http://ark.bnf.fr/ConsulterElementNum?O=IFN-07848867&E=JPEG&Deb=1&Fin=1&Param=C

Though it shows them as wearing loosely garbed fabric draped from and anchored at the waist, older paintings and illustrations also show leggings worn under short tunics or jerkins. Some even show acrobats performing in the nude.

--A.

EDIT: My response.


Well, in that case. I think GMs should NOT make these items because of the modern connotation (despite any supporting medieval etymology) that others would perceive.

http://www.velvetgarden.net/images/photos/20050721-41.jpg
A clearly modern bodice, but that's what I think of when I see the word "bodice"

http://www.hollywoodcostumesandparty.com/pimpho%20images/silvershirtblackpants.jpg
Bell bottoms pants are clearly modern, yet that's what I think of when I see the word "pants".

http://www.aussiesurf.com.au/WebRoot/ecornerstoreplus/Shops/sparechangeclothes/4667/D87A/A3EC/3922/19F5/C0A8/D207/FC1F/LEATHER_JACKET.jpg
Biker jackets are clearly modern, but that's what I think of when I see the word "jacket".

-farmer

[Methais]

And that is what I thought of as well. I mentioned this before, changed one letter to make it Trisity but haven't played her since. Just didn't want to start over. And it just wasn't the same.

Trisity actually makes me see it as "Tri-city" more than Tricity does.

Andraste is the neverending facepalm.

[Brielus]

Have your bodysuit made by someone else, or find some of the shelfbought and make her do em.

[War Angel]

Just a small FYI -


If you'd like, you're welcome to email me the cloak that's being sold off the shelf that's below current encumbrance standards, and I'll check with the SGMs to see if we should increase its weight.

-Liia, not being sarcastic.

So if you'd like one of the 3lb cloaks before they are changed in the shop possibly, buying one now would be a good idea. Solhaven, dark building, NE, #7.


original post can be found:
https://www.play.net/forums/messages.asp?forum=102&category=8&topic=3&message=41151

Posted under staff complaints because I think its crap that Simu's answer to their customers wanting clear guidelines is to change things already implemented to cover themselves.

[Rocktar]

Another fine Simu shaft-a-roo....

Hope they don't nerf them like they did the neckpouches, I lost a ton on those. I want my damn money back.

Rocktar the Scumbag

[thefarmer]

Weren't those the rogue guild cloaks that were already nerfed?

[War Angel]

There were packs that held a VLA and only weighed 4 lbs last I knew, sold in the rogues guild, but it seems like they "fixed" those.
As of an hour ago, those cloaks in Solhaven still weigh only 3 lbs and hold a VLA. Definitely NOT "current standards" if they changed the packs over.

[Jenisi]

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=fashion

[thefarmer]

It is difficult to get a good look at Inaara due to the number of mirror images of her nearby.
You see Inaara the Liberator.
She appears to be a Human from Jantalar.
She is shorter than average and appears to be extremely young. She has long-lashed intensely-violet eyes and petal-soft, creamy white skin. She has very long, silky black hair tumbling loosely in a disarray of natural waves and ringlets that fall to her hips. She has an oval face, a small nose and full, softly curved, naturally pale pink lips.
She has a stylized sunburst tattoo encircling her navel with rippling silver-edged violet rays curling outwards.
She is in good shape.
She is wearing a form-fitting ethereal bodysuit of swirling mercurial mists, a wide velveteen choker set with a cushion-cut circular violet sapphire, a cord-strung sea glass bauble, a backpack, a raven-hued spidersilk cloak traced with whorls of feystone, a cross-wrapped indigo silk saephua patterned with lapis blossoms, a spidersilk instrument satchel slung over her shoulder, some cord-laced dark suede gloves, some side-laced smoky leather pants, and some thigh-high black leather boots.

Edit: Ok, not as meaningful, but still

(OOC) You quietly whisper to Inaara, "When'd you get your bardarmor altered, if I cn ask?"
(OOC) Inaara's player whispers, "About two years back in the Bard guild from a raffle."

[Shari]

Wow, two posts in the last what...10 minutes on two different topics revolving around GS staff? OMG, WHO COULD YOU BE?

[Warriorbird]

Someone who ought to think twice before posting.

[thefarmer]

Come on, now. Why don't you tell the whole story?

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

[kallindra]

.... you make my eyes hurt, and yet I'm strangely tempted to try an read it, Thankfully, I actually like myself.

[Furrowfoot]

.... you make my eyes hurt, and yet I'm strangely tempted to try an read it, Thankfully, I actually like myself.

It's much easier to read here...

http://forum.gsplayers.com/showpost.php?p=844211&postcount=6

[kallindra]

Awesome is all I can say.

[ViridianAsp]

Come on, now. Why don't you tell the whole story?

Does anyone else feel like writing to feedback? I sure do.

[Rocktar]

What the fuck is the matter with you? I won't read that shit past the first sentance or two because l33t speak is annoying when my daughter txts me and fails at it, much less here. And people say I would be taken better if I was nicer, sheesh. English damnit, Uncle Sam wants you to speak English.

Rocktar

[thefarmer]

Learn to take a joke...Your posts are always so bitter.

[kallindra]

There are a lot of things wrong with me.

I don't deny it.

Bad sense of humor among them.

[thefarmer]

There are a lot of things wrong with me.

I don't deny it.

Bad sense of humor among them.

My reply was to Rocktar, not you.. Probably should have quoted I guess.

[Rocktar]

Learn to take a joke...Your posts are always so bitter.

Actually, most of my posts are emotion neutral or in general helpful and somewhat upbeat. I do, however, have a few issues with Simu and some of what they are doing. I also call a spade and spade and don't pull any punches.

~shrugs~

Most people, do, however, tend to remember the less than pleasent posts.

Rocktar

[kallindra]

My reply was to Rocktar, not you.. Probably should have quoted I guess.

This goes back to that bad sense of humor thing... Apparently I have no skill at the art of the joke... but I didn't think you were talking about me anyway, so no worries.

[thefarmer]

Setup is he was in TSC fiddling with a puppet toy.



>pinch pup
You pinch a dark elf tracker puppet, changing and moving the features around. When you finish, the puppet now looks like an elf tracker puppet!
>pinch pup
You pinch an elf tracker puppet, changing and moving the features around. When you finish, the puppet now looks like a dwarf tracker puppet!
>pinch pup
You pinch a dwarf tracker puppet, changing and moving the features around. When you finish, the puppet now looks like a halfling tracker puppet!
>rub pup
You dress your puppet up to look like a halfling skald puppet!
>rub pup
Marcole just arrived.
>
You dress your puppet up to look like a halfling swordsman puppet!
>
Marcole just went west.
>rub pup
Japhrimel swings his melody into the lower ranges, driving it with a rhythm that resembles the proud march of a contingent of brave knights.
>
You dress your puppet up to look like a halfling footpad puppet!
>rub pup
You dress your puppet up to look like a halfling spellbinder puppet!
>
Marcole just arrived.
>
Marcole just went northeast.
>shake pup
You shake up a halfling spellbinder puppet making it a blur. When you quit, it is transformed into a halfling evoker puppet!
>
Dreuntar says, "Casting now."
>
shake pup

You shake up a halfling evoker puppet making it a blur. When you quit, it is transformed into a halfling rainmaker puppet!
>shake pup

Wolfheaven just arrived.
>You shake up a halfling rainmaker puppet making it a blur. When you quit, it is transformed into a halfling firestormer puppet!
>
shake pup

You shake up a halfling firestormer puppet making it a blur. When you quit, it is transformed into a halfling hedgewizard puppet!
>shake pup

You shake up a halfling hedgewizard puppet making it a blur. When you quit, it is transformed into a halfling magician puppet!
>shake pup

You shake up a halfling magician puppet making it a blur. When you quit, it is transformed into a halfling invoker puppet!
>Dreuntar traces a series of glowing runes while chanting an arcane phrase...
Dreuntar gestures.
Dreuntar's group blurs before your eyes.
A rush lion blurs before your eyes.
>
shake pup

You shake up a halfling invoker puppet making it a blur. When you quit, it is transformed into a halfling battle mage puppet!
>shake pup

You shake up a halfling battle mage puppet making it a blur. When you quit, it is transformed into a halfling elementalist puppet!
>shake pup

You shake up a halfling elementalist puppet making it a blur. When you quit, it is transformed into a halfling stormcaller puppet!
>shake pup
Tramwal says, "Can i get healing please."
>
You shake up a halfling stormcaller puppet making it a blur. When you quit, it is transformed into a halfling zephyr mage puppet!
>
Dreuntar traces a series of glowing runes while chanting an arcane phrase...
Dreuntar gestures.
Dreuntar's group blurs before your eyes.
A rush lion blurs before your eyes.
>
shake pup

You shake up a halfling zephyr mage puppet making it a blur. When you quit, it is transformed into a halfling icebringer puppet!
>shake pup

You shake up a halfling icebringer puppet making it a blur. When you quit, it is transformed into a halfling enchanter puppet!
>Goethen just left.
>
Wolfheaven just went southwest.
>
shake pup

Dreuntar traces a series of glowing runes while chanting an arcane phrase...
Dreuntar gestures.
Dreuntar's group blurs before your eyes.
A rush lion blurs before your eyes.
>You shake up a halfling enchanter puppet making it a blur. When you quit, it is transformed into a halfling thaumaturge puppet!
>
You sense that your attunement to the minds of others has ceased.
>
Goethen just arrived.
>
shake pup

You shake up a halfling thaumaturge puppet making it a blur. When you quit, it is transformed into a halfling pyromancer puppet!
>Dreuntar traces a series of glowing runes while chanting an arcane phrase...
Dreuntar gestures.
Dreuntar's group blurs before your eyes.
A rush lion blurs before your eyes.
>
shake pup

You shake up a halfling pyromancer puppet making it a blur. When you quit, it is transformed into a halfling geomancer puppet!
>shake pup

You shake up a halfling geomancer puppet making it a blur. When you quit, it is transformed into a halfling mage puppet!
>Dreuntar makes a quick gesture while calling upon the powers of the elements...
Dreuntar gestures.
A brilliant luminescence surrounds Dreuntar and his group.
A brilliant luminescence surrounds a rush lion.
>
Striking a final vibrant chord, Japhrimel allows the song to fade into silence.
>
Dreuntar makes a quick gesture while calling upon the powers of the elements...
Dreuntar gestures.
A brilliant luminescence surrounds Dreuntar and his group.
A brilliant luminescence surrounds a rush lion.
>
Goethen grunts.
>whis pupp I meteor swarm for fun!
A halfling mage puppet exclaims, "I meteor swarm for fun!"
>


SEND[Andraste] Enough scrolling there with that puppet, thanks.


>
Dreuntar makes a quick gesture while calling upon the powers of the elements...
Dreuntar gestures.
A brilliant luminescence surrounds Dreuntar and his group.
A brilliant luminescence surrounds a rush lion.
>
Payme chuckles.
>
Payme hoarsely exclaims, "We know!"

Samanza's group just went northwest.

>
Kilsten deftly twirls his katana around his finger and stuffs it in his sheath. Fancy!
>report Uh I don't have a choice to make it form the race and profession I want
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>
The air calms down around Xelinia.
>
Kilsten just went southwest.

A rush lion stares hungrily at Payme!

>
Japhrimel begins playing a quiet song on his mandolin.
>
A cricket begins to chirp merrily. Soon others join in, until you are surrounded by a whole chorus of happy chirping. You smile, reminded of the old legend that crickets bring good luck and long life.
>


SEND[Andraste] Yes you do... find a quieter room to do it in


>Normal junk cut
>
Grimpl gestures while calling upon the lesser spirits for aid...
Grimpl gestures.
A dull golden nimbus surrounds Grimpl.
>
Grimpl gestures while calling upon the lesser spirits for aid...
Grimpl gestures.
A deep blue glow surrounds Grimpl.
>
Fhyllyp sits down.
>smirk
You smirk.
>
Grimpl gestures while calling upon the lesser spirits for aid...
Grimpl gestures.
A light blue glow surrounds Grimpl.
>
Goethen quietly says, "Well, it has been a pleasure."
>
Envidio asks, "Any healers?"
>
Goethen quietly says, "But I should return to the wild."
>
Japhrimel continues his soft music, providing pleasant background for the goings-on around him.
>incant 515
You recite a series of mystical phrases while raising your hands, invoking Rapid Fire...
Your spell is ready.
You gesture.
Rapid Fire (515) starts for 1m.
You feel the magic surge through you.
(Your next spell will be re-prepared upon its casting.)
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
>spellup auto envidio
You query the PsiNet for the spells envidio already has active.

Insert spellup of Endividio

>nod env
You nod to Envidio.
>
Envidio bows to you.
>


More useless cut



Envidio removes a tincture of acantha from in an herbal remedy donation bin.
>report so playing with my puppet is scrolling, but rapid fire spelling someone up isnt?
Seban raises his crumbling scroll and gestures.
Sparks begin to fly between the crumbling scroll and Seban's fingers.
With a sudden burst of enthusiasm, the sparks jump into Seban's hand and he seems to glow with power.
>
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>


More junk cut

SEND[Andraste] No rapid fire spelling someone up in a crowded room like that should also dictate the use of common sense, and realizing it's scrolling people.

Still more

>report So healers that rapid heal you in TSC is scrolling as well? Cause it scrolls my screen
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>
You hear someone calling upon the powers of the elements...
>
A silvery luminescence surrounds Grimpl.
>
You hear someone calling upon the powers of the elements...
>
A silvery luminescence surrounds Grimpl.
>
Spell Spirit Shield (202) ended. [-10DS]
The dim aura fades from around you.
>
Grimpl appears to be checking his pockets for something, but finds them empty.
>
Grimpl checks his equipment, adjusting and rearranging his gear.
>
High Lord Seban just arrived.
>
Japhrimel plucks several harmonic tones as delightful as the quiescent songs of shy faeries.
>
Seban sits down.

>
Goethen just went northwest.
>
Grimpl asks, "Anyone need colors?"
>
Grimpl gazes in wonder at his surroundings.
>join grimp
Grimpl shrugs.
>
You join Grimpl.
>
Japhrimel strums one final soft chord then allows his mandolin to fall silent.
>
Dreuntar says, "Well there were plenty breaking that and more earlier. Several folks seem to have grown a bit too big for their britches, or their mouths, of late."
>
The appearance of great calm leaves Thanius as he looks up and glances around.

Thanius nods to Grimpl.
>"Heck yea!
You exclaim, "Heck yea!"
>
Thanius joins Grimpl's group.
>
Blitzt says, "Wouldnt turn em down."
>
Grimpl grins.
>
Seban joins Grimpl's group.
>
Seban rubs his crystal amulet.
Seban gets an odd look on his face.
His crystal amulet suddenly shatters!
>
Grimpl adopts an agreeable expression.
>
Xelinia joins Grimpl's group.
>
Melancton just arrived.
>"I'd add guards and blurs
Melancton just went east.
>
You say, "I'd add guards and blurs."
>
Seban removes a crystal amulet from on some stone benches.
>
Blitzt joins Grimpl's group.
>
Seban hangs a crystal amulet around his neck.
>"But I might get in trouble
You say, "But I might get in trouble."
>
Grimpl turns to you and cheers!
>
Payme joins Grimpl's group.
>
Payme nods to you.
>
Payme hoarsely says, "Dont' cast too fast Gardeth,."
>
Seban rubs his crystal amulet.
>
Grimpl says, "Castting."
>


SEND[Andraste] That is the healing center of town, let's not continue to push the issue, Gardeth. There are plenty of rooms in the landing where one can play with toys.


>
Grimpl asks, "Watting on anyone?"
>
With a slow lead-in, Japhrimel begins a gentle ballad on his mandolin.
>
Thanius just opened an old leather cloak.
>
Thanius removes a sigil-incised witchwood runestaff from in his leather cloak.
>
Grimpl adopts an agreeable expression.
>
Thanius just closed an old leather cloak.
>
You hear someone reciting a series of mystical phrases...
>report No, I'm pressing the issue cause you're saying that certain professions can scroll certain rooms if they want.
Raanfalle just left.
>
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>
Grimpl appears considerably more powerful.


Japhrimel's easy melody loiters through the measures, washing over your senses like the waves of a gentle sea.
>You feel at full magical power again.

Grimpl makes a nearly imperceptible motion while whispering a soft phrase...
>
Grimpl gestures.
Mass Colors (611) stacks to 1h 59m. (+20m 30s)
You seem to blend into the surroundings better.
A peak lynx seems to blend into the surroundings better.
>
Grimpl generates a talented imitation of a weasel squealing.
>
Grimpl gestures.
Mass Colors (611) stacks to 2h 19m. (+20m 30s)
You seem to blend into the surroundings better.
A peak lynx seems to blend into the surroundings better.
>
Grimpl gestures.
Mass Colors (611) stacks to 2h 39m. (+20m 30s)
You seem to blend into the surroundings better.
A peak lynx seems to blend into the surroundings better.
>
Grimpl gestures.
Mass Colors (611) stacks to 3h. (+20m 30s)
You seem to blend into the surroundings better.
A peak lynx seems to blend into the surroundings better.
>
Grimpl gestures.
Mass Colors (611) stacks to 3h 20m. (+20m 30s)
You seem to blend into the surroundings better.
A peak lynx seems to blend into the surroundings better.
>
Grimpl gestures.
Mass Colors (611) stacks to 3h 41m. (+20m 30s)
You seem to blend into the surroundings better.
A peak lynx seems to blend into the surroundings better.
>
Grimpl gestures.
Mass Colors (611) stacks to 4h. (+18m 40s)
You seem to blend into the surroundings better.
A peak lynx seems to blend into the surroundings better.
>
Grimpl gestures.
Mass Colors (611) stacks to 4h. (+1s)
You seem to blend into the surroundings better.
A peak lynx seems to blend into the surroundings better.
>
Grimpl gestures.
Mass Colors (611) stacks to 4h. (+1s)
You seem to blend into the surroundings better.
A peak lynx seems to blend into the surroundings better.
>
Grimpl gestures.
Mass Colors (611) stacks to 4h. (+1s)
You seem to blend into the surroundings better.
A peak lynx seems to blend into the surroundings better.
>
Grimpl gestures.
Mass Colors (611) stacks to 4h. (+1s)
You seem to blend into the surroundings better.
A peak lynx seems to blend into the surroundings better.
>
Grimpl gestures.
Mass Colors (611) stacks to 4h. (+2s)
You seem to blend into the surroundings better.
A peak lynx seems to blend into the surroundings better.
>
Grimpl gestures.
Mass Colors (611) stacks to 4h. (+1s)
You seem to blend into the surroundings better.
A peak lynx seems to blend into the surroundings better.
>
Grimpl gestures.
Mass Colors (611) stacks to 4h. (+1s)
You seem to blend into the surroundings better.
A peak lynx seems to blend into the surroundings better.
>
Japhrimel deliberately strums an unhurried theme, letting each chord hang in the air for a time before striking another.
>
Grimpl gestures.
Mass Colors (611) stacks to 4h. (+2s)
You seem to blend into the surroundings better.
A peak lynx seems to blend into the surroundings better.
>
A dusky weasel saunters in.
>smirk
You smirk.
>"Grimpl...
You say, "Grimpl..."
>
Kunkka just arrived.
>"You cast TOO fast
You say, "You cast TOO fast."
>


SEND[Andraste] Playing with a toy isn't a profession-based issue, and neither is someone rapidfire casting spells on themselves or others.


>
Kunkka just went west.
>
Grimpl chuckles.
>"Only empaths can do that here
You say, "Only empaths can do that here."
>
Grimpl says, "Ohh."
>
Grimpl suddenly appears less powerful.
>
Thanius stands up.
>
Grimpl grins like an idiot.
>
With careful concentration, Japhrimel draws out a series of notes, allowing them to layer into a sweet harmony.
>
Thanius traces a sign while petitioning the spirits for cognition...
>"I was just told
Thanius gestures.
A dim aura surrounds Thanius.
>
You say, "I was just told."
>
Thanius gestures while calling upon the lesser spirits for aid...
>
Payme nods.
>
Thanius gestures.
A light blue glow surrounds Thanius.
>


SEND[Andraste] Let;s not go OOC with the conversation aloud there.


>
Grimpl asks, "So I should re-cast?"
>
Thanius gestures while calling upon the lesser spirits for aid...
>
Thanius gestures.
Thanius suddenly looks more powerful.
>
Thanius gestures while calling upon the lesser spirits for aid...
>
Thanius gestures.
A deep blue glow surrounds Thanius.
>report Grimple just rapid fired colors!
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>
Thanius gestures while calling upon the lesser spirits for aid...
>
Thanius gestures.
Thanius suddenly looks a lot more powerful.
Thanius is surrounded by a white light.
>
Grimpl rubs his chin thoughtfully.
>
Seban rummages around in his pockets.
>
Seban stan


You feel yourself being pulled away...
[Consultation Lounge]
The cozy surroundings of this simple conference room provide a much-welcomed respite from the chaos just outside its walls. You notice several plush chairs arranged casually around the room in a comfortable grouping.
Obvious exits: none
>
Andraste suddenly fades into sight beside you.

>
Andraste asks, "Are you asking for a disruptive warning, Gardeth?"

>"No, I'm asking for equal treatment
You say, "No, I'm asking for equal treatment."
>"Why should wizards have to leave to cast spells
You say, "Why should wizards have to leave to cast spells."
>"When empaths can scroll like crazy
You say, "When empaths can scroll like crazy."
>
Andraste asks, "I'm asking you to use common sense, can you do that?"
l
[Consultation Lounge]
The cozy surroundings of this simple conference room provide a much-welcomed respite from the chaos just outside its walls. You notice several plush chairs arranged casually around the room in a comfortable grouping.
Also here: GameMaster Andraste
Obvious exits: none
>smirk
You smirk.
>
Andraste says, "If someone is being annoying and disruptive repeatedly, feel free to report them."
>
Andraste says, "However..."
>"Oh?
You ask, "Oh?"
>"So report every empath that heals me too fast?
You ask, "So report every empath that heals me too fast?"
>
Andraste says, "If you're just going to report them to be contrary, because you believe there is so great uneveness in the way things are treated, then there will likely be a disruptive warning."
>
Andraste asks, "Are we clear on that?"
>"Not at all
You say, "Not at all."
>"Did someone report me for being disruptive?
>
You ask, "Did someone report me for being disruptive?"
>
Andraste says, "Excellent. Good night."
>
Andraste waves to you.
>
The world grows blurry and indistinct. After a moment everything becomes clear again. Looking about, you see...
[Town Square Central]

[ElvenFury]

I'm no fan of Andraste, but that's clearly a log of a player being a whiny, obtuse jackass.

[thefarmer]

General Staff complaints 06-20-2009 07:47 AM I think you are friendly, but I think you were being whiney in the log. Sorry happy dude.

Thanks for the grey rep, but the log isn't my character. I posted it because they asked me to.

[Asha]

I still can't believe that someone with the attitude Andraste has is still at the forefront of Simu's workforce.
At least she didn't interject with the usual ''Knock it off''.
Where do you see that kind of respect for customers? I'm glad the game in which she thinks she's all that is dying.

[That Jay]

It makes me ill to read incidents involving Andraste...

...where I agree with how she acted.

Physically ill.

[Sweets]

Good lord I wish people would stop making her look like the sane one. It frightens me.

[Parkbandit]

This thread made me think of this thread.

http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?t=9238

Unfortunately the pic in the OP is gone now :(



The power of Photobucket!!

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e6/belike53/img-1096911426.jpg

[Parkbandit]

Bah.. didn't realize it was an old bump :(

Still a funny pic though :)

[thefarmer]

*** Host Perezz is here to answer your assist. ***

>
Perezz tried to join your group, but your group status is closed. Click GROUP OPEN to let him join you.
>
Perezz says, "Hello, Vivaldi."
>
Perezz smiles at you.
>'Not my fault this time
You say, "Not my fault this time."
>shake head
You shake your head.
>
Perezz says, "Sure sure."
>point claid
>
You point at your steel claidhmore.
>
Perezz asks, "What did you do now?"

>'I didn't!
You exclaim, "I didn't!"

>'It's +1
You say, "It's +1."

>snicker
You snicker.
>'But.. non magical
You say, "But.. non magical."
>'but.. it's enchanted steel
You say, "But.. it's enchanted steel."
>
Perezz asks, "Was it magical before?"
>tap claid
You tap a well-balanced steel claidhmore, which is in your right hand.
>'Dunno
You say, "Dunno."
>'Came from the pawn
You say, "Came from the pawn."
>'and I think it came frmo a box, prior
You say, "And I think it came frmo a box, prior."

>
Perezz asks, "You purchassed it from the pawn shop?"
>nod per
You nod to Perezz.
>'but the fellow who sold it was there
You say, "But the fellow who sold it was there."
>'said he found it
You say, "Said he found it."
>
Perezz says, "It my be just a plain claidmore and not magical."
>'so I assume he meant from a box
You say, "So I assume he meant from a box."
>'or critter
You say, "Or critter."
>
Perezz says, "One second."
>nod
You nod.
>'but it's +1
You say, "But it's +1."
>shrug
You shrug.
>
Perezz says, "Did you have a bard sing to the weapon."
>nod per
You nod to Perezz.
>'+1, standar weighting, steel
You say, "+1, standar weighting, steel."
>
Perezz nods.
>
Perezz says, "That is why it is not magical, because it is not made from a magical metal, it is made from plain steel."
>'If something's enchanted, then it becomes magical
You say, "If something's enchanted, then it becomes magical."
>shrug
You shrug.
>
Perezz says, "No."
>
Perezz says, "The metal is the key factor here."
>'If I enchant a steel weapon I can hit a golem
You say, "If I enchant a steel weapon I can hit a golem."
>
Perezz says, "If you enchant it, it is just an enchanted plain claidmore."
>

>'No.. really, it's not
You say, "No.. really, it's not."
>'If something's enchanted, it can hit magical creatures
You say, "If something's enchanted, it can hit magical creatures."
>'For example..
You say, "For example.."
>
Your mule tattoo suddenly emerges from underneath your tan overalls and disappears behind the sleeveless work shirt covering your chest.
>

>'A forged weapon made of steel.. can't hit a golem
You say, "A forged weapon made of steel.. can't hit a golem."
>
Perezz says, "I believe you."
>'A forged weapon enchanted.. CAN hit a golem
You say, "A forged weapon enchanted.. CAN hit a golem."
>'Steel is 0x
>
You say, "Steel is 0x."
>
Perezz says, "But since that one is not enchanted, then it is still not magical."
>'If it's +1, then it's enchanted more than normal steel
You say, "If it's +1, then it's enchanted more than normal steel."
>
Perezz asks, "Does it have an enchanters mark on the weapon?"
>'Nope
You say, "Nope."
>l claid
You see nothing unusual.
>
Perezz says, "Then it was made as a +1 weapon, it is not actually enchanted."
>
Perezz says, "A nice find, but still a plain weapon at this point."
>'Steel is 0x
You say, "Steel is 0x."
>
Perezz says, "I understand that."

>'So therefor it's not a plain steel weapon
Perezz says, "But actually, +1 is still considered 0x, which would not be enchanted."
>
You say, "So therefor it's not a plain steel weapon."
>'Eh
You say, "Eh."

>'So an invar weapon is 0x?
You ask, "So an invar weapon is 0x?"
>
Perezz says, "Enchanted means a +5 bonus was added to the weapon."
>
Perezz says, "No, invar holds its one bonus."
>
Perezz says, "Own."
>
Perezz says, "And its a magical metal."
>
Perezz says, "Steel isn't."
>gaze up
You gaze heavenward.
>'So I could find a +4 claid
You say, "So I could find a +4 claid."
>point claid
You point at your steel claidhmore.
>'and you're not going to say it's magical or enchanted?
>
Perezz says, "No."
>
You ask, "And you're not going to say it's magical or enchanted?"
>'I'm really not understanding
You say, "I'm really not understanding."
>
Perezz says, "Ok."
>
Perezz says, "Let me explain it this way."

>
Perezz says, "An enchantment is rounded to the closes number."
>
Perezz says, "So if a weapon is +4 it would be considered 1x that would be enchanted."
>
Perezz says, "If the weapon was +3 it would still be."
>
Perezz says, "+2 it rounded down so 0x not enchanted."
>
Perezz says, "Same with +1."
>
Perezz says, "Just an added bonus."
>
Perezz says, "But not actually enchanted."
>
Perezz asks, "That help you to understand a bit better?"
>'Not really, no.
You say, "Not really, no."
>shrug
You shrug.
>'You tried, though
You say, "You tried, though."
>
Perezz says, "Or you can trust me, and accept that it is not enchanted, so therefor not magical at this time."
>
Perezz smiles at you.
>'I've never seen those rounding rules before in my entire time in gemstone
You say, "I've never seen those rounding rules before in my entire time in gemstone."
>shrug
You shrug.
>
Perezz says, "They have been around for ever."
>
Perezz says, "Take imflass."
>'No offense, but you folks (general you) aren't always right
You say, "No offense, but you folks (general you) aren't always right."
>'I've been burned before
You say, "I've been burned before."
>smile per
You smile at Perezz.
>
Perezz says, "Imflass is +12, but considered 2x."
>
Perezz says, "Thats rounded down."
>
Perezz asks, "Did that make sense?"
>'Sure, if I were wizard enchanting, I suppose.
You say, "Sure, if I were wizard enchanting, I suppose."
>shrug
You shrug.
>
Perezz grins.
>'I don't think it applies
You say, "I don't think it applies."
>'to this particular situation
You say, "To this particular situation."
>'however
You say, "However."
>shrug
You shrug.
>'Again
You say, "Again."
>'Doesn't matter
You say, "Doesn't matter."
>
Perezz says, "It just shows that the rounded issue has been around for ages."
>'You (general you) won't do it
You say, "You (general you) won't do it."
>
Perezz asks, "I won't do what?"
>
Perezz peers quizzically at you.
>'Make this claid hit golems
You say, "Make this claid hit golems."
>
Perezz says, "If you mean, do I have a wizard as a player in game, yes I do and they do enchant."
>'Er.. no
You say, "Er.. no."
>
Perezz says, "So I am explaining what I can as best as I can."

>'No, I mean, I get wizard enchanting
You say, "No, I mean, I get wizard enchanting."
>
Perezz nods.
>'I'm saying those rounding rules and this situation, have never been used together
You say, "I'm saying those rounding rules and this situation, have never been used together."
>'That's what I mean when I say I've never seen those rounding rules
You say, "That's what I mean when I say I've never seen those rounding rules."
>
Perezz says, "The bottom line is the weapon (even with a +1 bonus) is not considered magical or enchanted at this point."
>'Right
You say, "Right."
>'That's why I said it doesn't matter if I understand it or not
You say, "That's why I said it doesn't matter if I understand it or not."
>
Perezz grins.
>'You won't do it
You say, "You won't do it."
>
Perezz says, "Ahh, ok."
>chat lol at them
You focus on transmitting your thought.
Perezz asks, "So with that said, was there anything else you needed this evening?"
>'Nope, I'm good for now
You say, "Nope, I'm good for now."
>
Perezz nods.
>'Next week? who knows
You say, "Next week? who knows."
>snicker
You snicker.

>
Perezz chuckles.
>
Perezz says, "Enjoy the rest of your evening."
>wave per
You wave to Perezz.
>
Perezz waves to you.


So, am I wrong for thinking a +1 claid should be able to hit magical creatures?

[Renian]

So, am I wrong for thinking a +1 claid should be able to hit magical creatures?

Does it have an enchanter's glyph?

If not, you lose.

[TheLastShamurai]

So, am I wrong for thinking a +1 claid should be able to hit magical creatures?

I can see what you're saying about it being +1 and steel, in which case the AS bonus isn't from the metal itself because steel is 0x, but it may have come out of the hopper with some variation of the "sharp" and "dull" mechanic, in which case this AS bonus on the claid isn't from anything "magical."

[That Jay]

Perezz? As in Perez Hilton?

[thefarmer]

Does it have an enchanter's glyph?

If not, you lose.

The assigning of enchanter's glyphs has been buggy before.


I can see what you're saying about it being +1 and steel, in which case the AS bonus isn't from the metal itself because steel is 0x, but it may have come out of the hopper with some variation of the "sharp" and "dull" mechanic, in which case this AS bonus on the claid isn't from anything "magical."

Eh. Sharp/dull mechanic hasn't really been used since early gs3 really. The hob claids being the only exception.

Oh well.

[TheLastShamurai]

Eh. Sharp/dull mechanic hasn't really been used since early gs3 really. The hob claids being the only exception.

I'm pretty sure they either never turned this off, or they revived it with the new treasure system. Probably the latter.

A recent example of this would be that "dull veil iron katana." It isn't a full +25 {it's +23} because it's dull.


Oh well.

Pretty much. Was worth the try though.

[Baelog]

Think of it (Well balanced, sharp) like a forging bonus, but instead of AvD and DF, it's AS

[thefarmer]

Think of it (Well balanced, sharp) like a forging bonus, but instead of AvD and DF, it's AS

So instead of AvD and DF, It's AS? You mean like Enchanting is?

[Maerit]

I thought even invar claids wouldn't hit golems. Am I wrong?

[GSIVMerchant21]

most invar claidhs cannot get magical..i.e they aren't magical
there are a few invar claidhs that CAN hit magical, but these were released as an error

[Methais]

http://forum.gsplayers.com/images/reputation/reputation_neg.gif General Staff complaints (http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?p=859371#post859371) 06-26-2009 08:57 PM fukk u

UNL3S R3ADILEY ACESIBLA NU INSTANCES GIEV EVEN BTER LOT THAN THIS MANY PLAEYRS WUD COMPLATELEY IGNORA THAM!!!1!1!1! OMG RADE INSTANCES ALONG DA WAY IN LEVALNG SIMPLEY AERNT VIABLE AS RADES CUT AXPEREINCE BY HALF!!11!!1 OMG FURTHAR DA ONLEY R3ASON GUILDS CAN GET 40 PLAEYRS 2 GO DO MOLTAN COR3 SI B/C THEIR R MANY MANY 60S IN TEH GM3 AT LEAST WH3N COMPAERD 2 TEH NUMBR OF PLAEYRS AT EXACTLEY SAY LEVEL 37!111!11!! OMGDA ONLEY SENSIBLE THNG TAHT I SE 2 DO WIT INSTANCES LIEK ZULGURUB 20-MAN AHNQIRAJ AND MOLT3N CORE SI 2 HAAVILEY NERF TEH MOBS 2 MAEK DA INSTANCES 5-MAN RASE3 THERE LEVELS SO TAHT TEH LOT DA INSTANCA DROPS SI SUITABLE FOR DA L3V3L WITHOUT CHANGNG IETMS REDUCE DROP RAETS AND R3MOVA TEH RADE LOKOUT!!1!!TAHT WUD AT LAAST G3T SOMA UTILITY OUT OF DA INSTANC3S RATHAR THAN BLIZARD HAVNG SPENT AL TAHT TIEM DESIGNNG INSTANCAS TAHT 3VAN RADEERS WHO HAPAN 2 PIK UP TEH GM3 AFTAR TEH EXPANSION CAN NAVER SE!!!1!!!1 OMG WTFFURTHERMORE TEH 40-MAN COMPONENT SI HARDLEY TEH ONLEY PROBLEM WIT RADES IN THEYRE PRESENT FORMULATION!1!!!1! WTFIF TH3Y W3RE 2 MAEK DA 3ND-GMA INSTANC3S 5-MAN BUT KEP AL TEH OTH3R PROBL3MS WUD TAHT MAEK FOR A FUN INSTANC3?!!!?!? RADE LOKOUTS 3XOTIC R3SISTANC3 R3QUIERMENTS PRESCH3DULNG RAGROUPNG ON MULTIPLE DAYS PIEGONHOLAD CLAS FUNCTIONS FORC3D R3SPAS REPUTATION GRINDS DKP GUILD DRMA AND KILNG DA SME MOBS IN DA SMA ORDERS USNG TEH SME TACTIS WEK AFTAR WEK AFTER WEK IN A 5-MAN INSTANCE????????NO THX!!!!1!! WTF IF TAHTS WUT IT TAEKS DA MOBS CAN KEP THEYRE EPIS FOR AL I CAER!!!!11!!! WTF IF DA PROBL3M WIT DA EXISTNG RADENG END-GME SI TAHT ITS A BORNG TIEM SINK THAN WUT SI GANEAD BY OF3RNG TEH ALTERNATIEV OF ANOTH3R BORNG TIEM SINK?!!!! WTFSHUD A 60 WIT 10 DAYS /PLAEYD WHO STIL HAS TROUBL3 WIT RAEGFIER CHASM G3T 3PIS JUST B/C HES A 60 WIT 10 DAYS /PLAEYD?!??? OMG WTFIF U GOT A THOSAND CHARACTERS 2 LEVAL 5 WUD U AXP3CT EPIS FOR TAHT??!?!3MPHASIZNG TIEM SPENT OVER SKIL LEADS 2 MIND-NUMBNGLEY R3PETITIEV CONT3NT WHICH SI 3XACTLEY WUT SHUD B AVOIEDD!1!!1 OMG WTFSURALEY IT SI BT3R 2 SPAND TAHT TIEM CR3ATNG R3AL CONTANT 3V3N IF IT M3ANS ONLEY ONE BORNG END GMA PATH INST3AD OF S3V3RAL!!!1!!PARHAPS FOR WUT TEH FINAL 3XPANSION BLIZARD HAS PLANED IT WUD MAEK SENS3 2 HAEV MULTIPLE AND-GMA PATHS SO TAHT PLAEYRS CUD ADVANC3 2 DA V3RY BST GEAR VIA 40-MAN RADES 5-MAN GROUPS SOLO CONT3NT OR WUT MIX TH3Y PR3FAR!!!1!11!! OMG WTFBUT IN TEH UNTIL THEN IT DO3SNT MAEK SENSE 2 OVARDO DA AND-GMA CONTENT WHICH WIL NED A MAJOR OVARHAUL L8R INSTEAD OF REAL CONT3NT WHICH WIL RAMANE UESFUL FOR AS LONG AS DA GMA AXISTS AND WITHOUT NEDNG 2 B COMPLATELEY R3BALANCED!!1!!! OMG WTFANOTHER ALT3RNATIEV WUD B 2 HAEV NO END-GM3 AT AL!!111!!1! OMG PUT NO RADE INSTANC3S OR R3PUTATION GRINDS IN2 TEH GMA SO TAHT ONCE U FINISH STRATHOLME SCHOLOMANCE DIER MAUL BLAKROK DEPTHS AND BLAKROK SPIER UR DONA!1!111 WTF TH3R3S NOTHNG LAFT 2 DO!1!11 OMG TAHT WUD B LIEK BLIZARD TELNG PLAEYRS CONGRATULATIONS U HAEV BAETN TEH GME!1!!11 OMG WTFNOW U SHUD CANC3L UR ACOUNT AND GO DO SOMETHNG 3LSE!1111 FOR OBVIOS BUSIENS REASONS THEY CANT DO TAHT!11!1!111 OMG L3TS NOT FORGET TAHT BLIZARD SI PLAYNG A GME 2 H3R3!111!1!! THERE TRYNG 2 MAEK AS MUCH MON3Y AS THEY POSIBLEY CAN!!1!1 WTF THES ISNT AN ANTI-CAPITALIST RANT TAHTS A GOD THNG NOT A BAD THNG!!!!!1 OMGIF BLIZARD DIDNT R ABOUT MON3Y TH3Y WUDNT R WUT PLAEYRS WANT AND CERTANELEY WUDNT ADJUST DA GM3 BAESD ON PLAEYR DAMANDS!!!1!1!!1 WTF IF U DONT SE TEH DIFERANC3 BTWEN THES AND WT DO NOW I SUGEST U GO APLEY FOR SOME P3RMIT AT A GOVARNM3NT AEGNCY SOMETIEM!1!!!1!11IT DOASNT MATER MUCH WHICH AEGNCY SO LONG AS IT ISNT D3P3NDANT ON CUS2M3R SATISFACTION FOR ITS BUDGAT!!1!1! OMG WTF INDED BLIZARD TRYNG 2 MAEK MONEY SI TEH RAASON TH3Y MAED TEH POPULAR LEVEL 1-59 SACTION OF DA GMA TEH WAY THEY DID!!!!!!11 OMG WTFBLIZARDS GREAT INSIGHT WAS TAHT EVEN IF IT WAS NACASARY FOR TEH GME 2 B PANEFUL GRINDNG ONC3 TEH CONTANT HAD RUN OUT MANY PLAEYRS DIDNT WANT DA PANEFUL GRINDNG STAEG 2 BGIN SOM3WHERE AROUND L3VEL 3!!!!1!!1 OMG WTFSO THEY POSTPON3D IT AL DA WAY UNTIL PLAEYRS HAD DON3 NEARLEY AVERYTHNG THEIR WAS 2 DO AND PLAEYRS LOVED IT!1!1!TAHT SI A BIG R3ASON Y DA GMA HAS SIX MILION OR SO SUBSCRIEBRS AND TEH COMPANY HAS (HOPEFULY) MAED MILIONS OF DOLARS IN PROFIT!!!1!!11! OMG BUT PLAEYRS SE TAHT DA GRINDNG CAN B POSTPONAD AND WANT IT POSTPON3D FURTHER OR PUT OF INDEFINIETLEY!!111 OMG WTF A COMPANY TAHT FOUND A WAY 2 DO TAHT IN A ST3REOTYPICAL MORPG WIT HAAVILEY SCRIPT3D CONTENT WUD MAEK ODL3S OF MON3Y OF IT!11!!11 OMG WTF BUT TRYNG TAHT SI P3RHAPS A HOLEY GRALE TYPA OF MISION AND ONA FOR WHICH NEITH3R BLIZARD NOR ANYON3 3LS3 ON DA PLAENT HAS A SOLUTION!!11! WTFHOW3VER BLIZARD KNAW TAHT TH3Y CUD ONLEY AD SO MUCH REAL CONT3NT 2 TEH GM3 WITHOUT MAKNG A BUNCH OF IL-CONC3IEVD GARBAEG!!1!11!!1 OMGTEH PROBLEM THAY FAECD WAS HOW 2 GAT PLAEYRS 2 KEP SUBSCRIBNG AFTER THEY HAEV RUN OUT OF CONTENT OR MORA COMONLEY SKIP3D MOST OF IT!!11! OMGTHERE SOLUTION WAS DA CUR3NT RADENG 3ND-GM3!!111!!!! OMGLOK CAERFULY AND U NOTIEC TAHT TAHT SI EXACTLEY WT AXISTNG 40-MAN RADES R BUILT FOR MORA SO THAN 2 PROVIED AN INT3RESTNG CHALENG3!11!111 WTFTHEIR SI DA RADE LOKOUT FOR EXMPLE SO TAHT A GUILD CANT KIL ONYXIA 5 TIEMS PAR DAY AND GET AVERYON3 HIS TEIR 2 H3LM IN A WEK BUT RATH3R TEH RADE CONT3NT LASTS MUCH LONGAR 3VEN AFT3R ONYXIA GOAS ON FARM STATUS!!!!!!11THEYRE R TEH SPECIALIEZD R3SISTANCE G3AR REQUIERMANTS SO TAHT PLAEYRS HAEV 2 SP3ND MUCH TIEM FARMNG FOR GAAR WHICH SI UESLES OUTSIED TEH INSTANCE IN QUESTION IN ORDER 2 DO DA RADE!11!1!!TEH 40-MAN R3QUIERMANT ITSELF FORCAS MUCH TIEM 2 B SPENT ON ORGANIZNG AND TRYNG 2 BUILD GUILDS RATH3R THAN RADENG!1!1!! WTFAND TEH MOST CL3VAR PART OF THES SI TAHT IF ONLEY SO MUCH TIEM PAR WEK CAN B SPENT ADVANCNG A MANE IT PUSHAS PLAEYRS 2 CR3AET ALTS 2 GO BAK AND R3DO CONT3NT IN A DIFER3NT WAY WIT A DIFER3NT CLAS OR P3RHAPS AVEN GO DO CONTENT TH3Y SKIPED DA FIRST TIEM AROUND!1111!1 OMG TAHT IS IT PUSH3S PLAEYRS 2 GO DO SOM3THNG FUN!1!!!!! IMAGIEN TAHT!11!1DONG TEH SM3 THNG OV3R AND OV3R AND OVAR AGANE FOR LOT SI NOT RAAL CONTANT!!!1!1!11 OMGFORTY MANE RADES SIMPLEY AERNT RAAL CONT3NT IN DA SENS3 TAHT SAY SCARLET MONASTARY OR HILSBRAD FOTHILS AER!11!1! IF ANY RADEARS WANT 2 DISAGRE WIT TAHT THEN WUD U S3RIOSLEY CLEAR MOLTEN CORE A DOZEN TIEMS PAR CHARACT3R IF IT DROPED NO LOT APIC OR OTHERWIES??!!!? OMG WTF NOT COINCIEDNTALY DA SM3 CAN B SADE OF DA VARIOS REPUTATION GRINDS IN TEH GM3!1!1!1!11 OMG WTFAFTER AL WITHOUT 3PIC REWARDS PLAEYRS SIMPLEY WUDNT DO A VERY SMAL SUBSAT OF TEH CONTENT OVER AND OVER AND OV3R AGANE AV3N IF ITS TEH BIG BAD AND BOS OF TEH GME AS IT SIMPLEY ISNT FUN!1!!! SO WUT ABOUT TEH EPIS????!!?!! OMG WTFDOESNT IT SEM OD TAHT WIT TEH 3XCAPTION OF PVP RANK 14 WAAPONS (A TIEM SINK AND A HALF IN ITS3LF) AL HIGH LAVEL EPIS COME FROM 40-MAN RADES??!!!?! W3L NOT RILLY!!!1!!11! OMG BLIZARD PUT DA END-GME RADES IN2 TEH GM3 2 PROVIED SOM3THNG 2 DO FOR THEYRE L3S CRAATIEV PLAEYRS AND PREF3RS TAHT PLAEYRS GO RADENG RATHER THAN CANCELNG ACOUNTS!1!!11! WTF PUTNG DA BST LOT IN TEH GME THEIR ENSURAS TAHT TEH APROPRIAET TYPA OF PLAEYRS WIL SPEND TEH DESIERD MOUNT OF TIEM IN SUCH INSTANC3S AND H3NCE KEP THERE SUBSCRIPTIONS ACTIEV!!111!!!1 OMG IL CONCEDE TAHT TEH LOT GAP BTWEN RADE AND NON-RADE GEAR SI AWFULY LARGA AND P3RHAPS UNECASARILEY SO SURELEY IETM LAV3L 60 3PIS FOR TEIR 1 AND 67ISH FOR TEIR 2 WUD HAEV B3N HIGH ANOUGH 2 PUSH DA PLAEYRS WHO WANT DA BST GAAR 2 RADE FOR IT!1!11 WTFBUT DA POINT R3MANES TAHT DA BST GEAR HAS 2 COMA FROM DA AND-GME PSAUDO-CONTENT TAHT BLIZARD CR3AETS SOLELEY IN AN AFORT 2 PREVANT PLAEYRS FROM CANCELNG WHEN TH3Y RATIONALY OUGHT 2!!!!1!1 WTF AFTER AL MOST RADE3RS R THEIR FOR DA EPIS NOT FOR DA CHALENGE!11!!11!1 OMG WTFMOST WONT SAY SO BUT MANY IMPLICITLEY ADMIT IT WH3N THEY ARGU3 TAHT 40-MAN RADES HAEV 2 GIEV DRASTICALY BT3R LOT THAN 5-MAN INSTANC3S OR ALSA PEOPL3 WUDNT BOTHAR 2 DO THEM!1!!1 OMG WTFSUPOSE TAHT THEYRE W3RE A TEIR 3 L3GANDARY SAT FOR EACH CLAS IN DA GME RIGHT NOW!11!!1! OMGTEH ONLEY WAY 2 G3T IT SI 2 PR3S DA Q KEY ONCA P3R SECOND FOR EIGHT HOURS STRAGEHT!11!1! OMGU CANT MACRO IT AND IF U TAEK A BR3AK FOR TWO SECONDS U FALE AND HAEV 2 START OVAR!!!1!1 WTFWUD U DO IT??!!! SURALEY U KNOW AS WEL AS I DO TAHT A LOT OF PLAEYRS WUD!1!1!1!!FURTH3RMORE IF BLIZARD L8R CR3AETD ALTARNAET METHODS 2 G3T COMPARABL3 G3AR THEYRE WUD B AN OUTCRY FROM TEH P3OPLE WHO ALREADY HAD TEH L3GENDARY SAT OF HOW THES WAS UNFARE AND TEH OTHER PEOPLA WHO WANTAD LEGANDAREIS SHUD HAEV 2 3ARN THERE GEAR BY S3VERALEY DMAGNG THEYRE WRISTS!!111!!!1 OMG AND YET AT RISK OF SOMA OF DA MORE OUTSPOKAN RADE3RS NOT UNDERSTANDNG THES EXMPLE I SHUD HOP3 TAHT IT ISNT N3C3SARY 2 EXPLANE Y SUCH A S3T SI SP3CTACULARLEY BAD GMA DESIGN!1!!1!11! OMG AND RILLY TEH CONC3PT OF 3ARNNG GEAR SI QUIET A PRAPOST3ROS ONE!1!11! OMGU AARN THNGS BY DONG SOM3THNG U DONT WANT 2 DO IN ORDER 2 GET SOMETHNG U WANT!11111 OMG WTFIF U AERNT FORTUNAET ENOUGH 2 HAEV A JOB U LOV3 TH3N UR JOB MAY STIL B WORTH DONG IN ORDER 2 G3T 3NOUGH MON3Y 2 BUY AN ONLIEN GME SUBSCRIPTION-AND NOT STARVA!!!!!11 WTFFOR THNGS TAHT NED 2 B DONE SUCH EXCHANGES 2 MAEK DONG WORK WORTHWHIEL R QUIET UESFUL!!11!11! OMG WTF BUT THES SI AN ONLIEN GMA PLAEYD FOR 3NTARTANEM3NT!11!!1 OMGIF THEYRE R P3OPL3 STARVNG IN DA WORLD ITS NOT B/C UR GUILD 2K 2 LONG 2 GET ENOUGH FIER R3SISTANCE GEAR 2 TAEK DOWN RAGNAROS!!!!1!!! COMPUTER GMES R SUPOS3D 2 B FUN!!!11!!11 DA CONT3NT ALONG DA WAY AND IN PARTICULAR DA M3ANS BY WHICH GAAR SI OBTANEED OUGHT 2 B FUN IN ITS3LF!111!1 2 MAEK U MIESRABLE IN ORD3R 2 GAT 3PIS IN A GM3 TAHT U FUNDMENTALY HAET CANOT B WORTH IT IN ANY SAEN SENSE!!1!1!!!!IT SI A RATHAR MADENNG HUMAN T3ND3NCY TAHT PEOPLE WANT 3PIS RAGARDLES OF TEH MEANS BY WHICH TH3Y R OBTANEAD!!!1! WTFRADEERS OFTEN ACUES NON-RADEERS OF WANTNG EASY EPIS!!1!1111USUALY THEIR RIGHT!1!!11 OMG WTFIT ACTUALY GOES FURTH3R THAN THIS AS WUT MANY PLAEYRS WANT SI NOT MERALEY AASY EPIS FOR THEMS3LV3S BUT ALSO FOR OTH3R PLAEYRS 2 NOT GET EASY EPIS!!!!! OMG WTFBUT RADE3RS WANT 3ASY 3PIS 2!1!!!!1! OMG WTF SO IMM NOT A RADEER AND I DONT HAEV ANY 3PIS!!1!!!POR ME RIGHT???!?!! OMG WTFWAL I HAD A FAW BUT I SOLD THEM ON DA AUCTION HOUES!!!!1! OMG WTF BUT RILLY FOR WUT DO I NED APIS?!!!!??! OMG WTF DO I NED 3PIS FOR STRATHOLM3 OR SCHOLOMANCE OR DIER MAUL??!!??? OMGHOW ABOUT FOR SILITHUS OR WINT3RSPRNG OR 3ASTERN PLAGUALANDS?!!!??? OMG WTF OF COURSE NOT!1!!!!1 WTF I WUD NED 3PIS FOR BLAKWNG LARE OR 40-MAN AHNQIRAJ EXC3PT TAHT I JUST SADE IMM NOT A RADEER!111111! OMG WTF THEIR R NO G3AR R3QUIERMENTS IN ORD3R NOT 2 DO AN INSTANC3!1!1!1!!1 OMG HE PURPOSE OF G3TNG LOT SI 2 B W3L-EQUIPED FOR FUTUR3 CHAL3NGAS!!11!!!!! WTFBUT THEIR SI ONLEY A FINIET MOUNT OF CONT3NT IN TEH GME!!!111!!! OMG WTFAT SOME POINT THEIR R NO FUTUR3 CHAL3NGES WORTH DONG-MEANNG TAHT AT TAHT POINT LOT BCOMES WORTHL3S!!!11!111 MANY PLAEYRS HAEV GONE PAST TAHT POINT WITHOUT REALIZNG IT AND STIL WANT MOR3 AND BTER EPIS!1!!111!!U CAN SE THEM WHINNG ABOUT IT HAR3 AVARY DAY!1!111!! WTFSO WUT ABOUT PVP?!!!?!! OMG ISNT IT UNFARE IF ON3 PLAEYR SI IN AL BLUE GEAR AND HAS 2 FIGHT ANOTHAR DEK3D OUT IN BLAKWNG LARE AND 40-MAN AHNQIRAJ EPIS??!!? WTFYEP PVP SI UNBALANC3D!11!1 WTF DUH!!111 WTFITS SUPOSED 2 B UNBALANCED!!1!!! WTFU SHUD HAEV FIGURAD THES OUT BY TEH TIEM U GOT UR FIRST CHARACTAR 2 LEV3L 2!1!!11! OMG HALF TEH POINT OF TEH L3V3LNG IN A L3V3LNG GM3 WIT PVP SI 2 INTANTIONALY MAEK TEH PVP UNBALANCED!1!1!1!1IF U DONT LIEK TAHT THAN DONT PVP!!!11!!! OMGPROBL3M SOLVAD!1!11!!1 IT GOES BAK 2 HOW PLAEYRS WANT EASY EPIS FOR THEMSELV3S AND NOT FOR OTH3RS!!1111! OMG WTFPLAEYRS WANT 2 WIN AND HENCE WANT WINNG 2 B BAESD ON WUT IT NEDS 2 B BAESD ON IN ORD3R FOR THEM 2 WIN!!11! OMGFOR PLAEYRS WIT MOR3 FRE TIEM THAN SKIL THEIR R LEVALNG GMAS WHAR3 WHOEVAR HAS DA MOST FRE TIEM WINS!111!!1IF UR LOKNG FOR COMBAT WHERA TEH WINAR SI BAESD ON SKIL UR TARIBLEY LOST!1!!1! WTF TRY LOKNG FOR A GMA WIT NO CONC3PT OF EXPAREINC3 L3V3LS!!!!1!! WTFBLIZARD MAEKS PVP UNBALANCED B/C TAHTS WUT PLAEYRS WANT!!!!!1!1! OMG WTF TH3Y HAEV 2 D3AL WIT TAHT RAALITY IN ORDAR 2 MAEK MON3Y!1!11!! OMG WTF AS TEH SAYNG GO3S DA CUS2MER SI ALWAYS RIGHT!11!!!11 WTF AND TAHTS Y COMPLANENG ABOUT PVP IMBALANCAS SI STUPID!!!11!!1 WTF BSIEDS IF BLIZARD W3RA 2 IMPL3MENT AL OF DA NARFS TAHT PLAEYRS HAEV CALED FOR WHEN THINKNG OF PVP IT WUD MAEK MUCH OF TEH PVA CONTANT HOR3NDOSLEY DIFICULT!!1!1!!1 OMG WTF AND TAHT WUD GIEV PLAEYRS YET ANOTHAR 2PIC ON WHICH 2 WHIEN!1!11!1 OMG WUT OTH3R RAASONS R THEYRE 2 GET EPIS APART FROM PVP AND PVA UESS????!! OMG WTF EGO P3RHAPS??!??!? WTFWHIEL I T3ND 2 PITY THOS3 WHO MAEK A HUG3 DEAL ABOUT EITHER LEVELNG OR GETNG SOME PARTICULAR DROP AS THOUGH IT WER3 SOM3 GR3AT ACOMPLISHMANT THES DOASNT MAEK MUCH S3NSE EITH3R!11!1!! OMGSUPOSE TAHT BLIZARD WERE 2 AD A NU LEGENDARY SET FOR EACH CLAS WHICH WAS UND3NIABLEY TEH BST GEAR IN DA GM3!!11!1 AL TAHT PLAEYRS HAEV 2 DO 2 G3T IT SI UPON REACHNG LEVEL 60 SI 2 COMPL3TE A TRIVIAL QUAST LIEN WHICH BASICALY CONSISTS OF TEH QUAST GIEVR #@!&AETDLEY ASKNG DA PLAEYR IF HA SI CARTANE TAHT HA WANTS TEH SAT!1!!!11 WTF THARES ONA BIG CATCH THOUGH ONC3 U G3T TEH LEGENDARY SET U CAN NAV3R AGANE ENT3R AN INSTANC3!!111! OMGNO BATL3GROUNDS NO RADE ZONES NO GROUP ZON3S NO SOLO FARMNG INSTANCAS EV3N!!1!11 WTF TAHT IS U CAN G3T TEH SET BUT CANT UES IT MUCH!!!!1!!INT3REST3D??!!! OMGIF DA PLAEYRS WHO WANT GAAR WANT IT FOR SOMETHNG OTHER THAN PVP OR PV3 UES TH3N SURALEY THES WUD B QUIET A POPULAR SAT DONT U THINK??!?!?!I CAN SYMPATHIEZ WIT NON-RADEERS WHO WANT MOR3 NON-RADENG CONTENT AD3D 2 DA GM3!!!11!!! OMG WTFWUT I CANT SYMPATHIEZ WIT SI DA PEOPL3 WHO UES EXPLOITS 2 TRIVIALIEZ (AND HENCE ASANTIALY SKIP) TEH AXISTNG CONT3NT AND THAN COMPLANE TAHT THEYVE RUN OUT OF THNGS 2 DO!!11!1 OMG U SEN WUT IMM TOKNG ABOUT TAEK A 40 IN2 DEADMIENS AND A 60 IN2 SCARLET MONASTARY!11111 WTFSUCH PAOPLE WUD TAEK AN 80 IN2 SCHOLOMANCA IF TH3Y CUD BUT THAY CANT SO INSTAAD THEY TAEK 10 PLAEYRS IN2 A 5-MAN ZONE!!1!!!!1! AND NOW TAHT EXPLOIT SI BNG CUT OF AS WEL IN PATCH 110!1!1! OMG WTF AND THEIR SCR3MNG ABOUT IT!!!1!! OMG WTFMUSNG!!1!!!1!1 OMGITS NOT HARD 2 FIND DA PROBLEMS WIT DA PEOPLE U DONT LIEK AND RADEERS HAEV JUMP3D ON THES 2 POINT OUT HOW RIDICULOS IT IS!!!1!11! OMG WTF THEIR RIGHT OF COURS3!!11! WTF WH3R3 THEY GO WRONG SI IN CLAMENG TAHT NON-RADEERS ASKED FOR EPIS FOR HARD NON-RADENG CONT3NT AND R NOW COMPLANENG ABOUT IT!1!11!1 OMG WTF DA NON-RADEARS WHO R COMPLANENG ABOUT DA CHANGES OF PATCH 110!1!!!11! OMG R NOT DA SM3 P3OPLE WHO WANT3D ACTUAL CHAL3NG3S IN NON-RADENG CONTANT SUCH AS HAVNG 2 PAY ATENTION!1!11!1 WTF SO LET IT B KNOWN IMM NOT A RADEER AND I DONT WANT EASY EPIS!!1!1!1 OMG WTFWUT I WANT SI 2 B ABL3 2 ATAK ONA CHALANGE UNTIL I GET TIERD OF FARMNG IT (AND I HAEV VARY LITLA 2L3RANCA FOR GRINDNG OF ANY SORT) AND TH3N AS A R3SULT OF HAVNG COMPLET3D DA PR3VIOS CHALENGE (AND DA ONAS BFOR3 IT) 2 B PROPARLEY AQUIP3D FOR TEH NAXT!!1!!11!! WTFWH3TH3R DA GAAR INVOLVAD SI GREN BLUE PURPLA OR ORANGE DOESNT MATER MUCH!!!11!1! OMG WTF AND I DO WANT DA CHAL3NGES 2 B WAL CHAL3NGNG AS OPOSED 2 MONO2NOS TIEM SINKS!1!!!!!1 I ROUTIENLEY TURN PLAEYRS AWAY FROM GROUPS I FORM FOR BNG 2 HIGH LEVAL!11111111 WTFA 56 WANTS 2 RUN MARAUDON OR A 38 RAZORFAN KRAUL????!!?! 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[Dhuul]

aghhh! i just got a goatse flashback from that!

[Renian]

tl;dr

[DwarvenTank]

Perezz is an idiot to state he has a wizard that enchants and then be completely wrong. Enchanting has changed to match what the AI crystal has always said. Wizard enchanting used to round up and down but not for a few years now. It was changed so +1 to +5 is 1x, +6 to +10 is 2x, etc. so imflass +12 is 3x when it comes to enchanting and the AI. Taking it to +22 counts as your 1 major project (5x). I wouldn't trust what he says about the claid and ask for a referral, but with the odd enchants being released from the new treasure system who knows what they'll tell you.

Also its been stated by GMs that the appearance of a enchanters mark is not related to if a weapon is magical or not. I believe that magic metal weapons/armor bought from the towns weapon/armor shop don't have any enchanters marks, or something similar to this...