Batman: Dark Knight

[Fallen]

Stop whatever you're doing and go see this movie. Best I have seen in recent memory.

Not sure if that will work. I tried to add a warning about Spoilers.

If that doesn't work...

WARNING - THIS THREAD CONTAINS SPOILERS!

[LadyLaphrael]

Movies like Dark Knight remind me why, no matter how much bootlegging and crap goes on, people will always keep going to the theatre. Almost every closeup of the Joker made me cringe. You can't beat that experience.

[Fallen]

Nothing beats midnight showings. Everyone is there at 12 God damn AM for the sole purpose of seeing the movie. No one is going to be a jackass and talk through it. Yeah, the crowd is rowdy before it begins, and clap when the movie starts, etc..but that is part of the fun. Completely different atmosphere.

[diethx]

Nothing beats midnight showings. Everyone is there at 12 God damn AM for the sole purpose of seeing the movie. No one is going to be a jackass and talk through it. Yeah, the crowd is rowdy before it begins, and clap when the movie starts, etc..but that is part of the fun. Completely different atmosphere.

Yeah, that's what I love about opening weekend shows, cuz in my experience it's like that usually on the first Friday & Saturday nights. It just makes the experience way more fun.

[Fallen]

That, and no one can ruin the movie for you by telling what happens. Definitely a few surprises in Dark Knight.

[NocturnalRob]

i've got 2 friends coming up from ATL and DC this weekend. I asked what they wanted to do. They told me that they were open to just about anything. The only thing I planned out was 3 tickets for a Saturday IMAX showing of TDK. I'm pretty sure that's all I'm going to need to make this an eventful trip.

[Exit]

Seeing it right when I get off work!

[sst]

got tickets for 950 tonight.

[landy]

I gots me some tickets for the largest IMAX theatre in the Northeast United States. But fuck it's only showing Sunday!

[Fallen]

I will be trying to go see it in IMAX too. I will likely see this movie 3 times in theaters.

[Krendeli]

Don't spoil the ending!

[DCSL]

I saw the midnight showing as well. Love midnight showings. Even if I have to be at work at seven in the morning the next day, I will still go see midnight showings. Because I am just that big of a nerd.

Heath Ledger's performance is going to become iconic. He beat the crap out of Jack Nicholson's Joker hands down. They'll be incorporating Ledger's Joker take into the comics, I'm positive of it.

As for the movie as a whole... I like how they illustrate Bruce Wayne's slow descent into the darkness, showing exactly how he becomes the sociopathic vigilante we all know and love. Unless you're a Superman fan. Which would be wrong of you.

[Ashliana]

Looking forward to it. I would've seen it last night, but can't stay up that late during the week.

[Clove]

Don't spoil the ending!The Joker dies...

[iJin]

nkgdmfs

SHUTTHTEFUCKUP.


I can't wait to see this. :D

[Bobmuhthol]

I enjoyed it!

[TheEschaton]

This movie literally made me toss and turn when I tried to go to sleep last night at 3, after seeing the 1215 showing. The Boston Fenway theatre across the street from me sold out 10 midnight showings.

Holy crap man, I want to see it again now.

[Xaerve]

It was a remarkably well done film. Ledger's performance was breath taking.

[Jahira]

I don't normally get into Batman Movies.

This movie KICKS ASS.

The pencil trick was AMAZING!

[Zarli]

I just got home from seeing it. That pencil thing, oh my god. Took me several minutes to close my gawking mouth, that was just wrong lol. Excellent movie. I dont normally go to the batman movies either but I was a huge Ledger fan and I'm still sad he's gone but what a way to end. :clap:

[BriarFox]

Just saw it myself (with a beer in one hand, because my local movie theater has a rockin' liquor license). It was a really well done movie, and the time flew by because the damn thing never stopped once. Mix up a hefty chunk of crowd psychology with a gallon or two of gasoline and a match, and you've pretty much got the movie.

Have to say that it's the best Batman movie I've seen. What made it better than the rest was that it wasn't really about Batman; it focused far more on the ethics and psychology of other people, both en masse and individually - particularly with the Joker and Two-face. It also managed to connect the rather ridiculous characters from the Batman story to broader and more interesting themes.

[Jahira]

I will say the movie a bit long. I thought it was almost over so I challenged my bladder to hold on. After about 30 minutes of holding and thinking the movie was almost over, I gave in and said "If I miss the ending, I am staying and watching it again." I got up (and some people snickered) and came back and still had a good half-hour left of movie. I can't imagine if I would have tried to make it to the end.

[diethx]

That was totally me during Return of the King. I had to pee so freakin bad. And after it faded out and back in like 239482347 times for the entire last half hour, I was ready to kill someone.

[Kefka]

Much much better than I anticipated. The YouTube previews had me a lil skeptical, but OMG! Going to see this again at the IMAX next week.

Nice previews too. I didn't know another Terminator was in the works.

[Kitsun]

Totally, face ripping awesome.

[Warriorbird]

Brilliant acting. Ledger is a better Joker than even Nicholson. Bale is an actually convincing Batman.

On the other hand... I wasn't all that impressed by the editing and the directing. It was at least 30 minutes too long, the combat was muddy (wtf with the drawn out hostage bit... could've ended with a single awesome shot), ended wrong (the emphasis should have been far more on the Joker than Twoface), and included random shit (who cared about the big Morgan Freeman cell phone sonar hijinks, not me!).

It was a pretty damn good movie that could have been better.

[Stanley Burrell]

Movies like Dark Knight remind me why, no matter how much bootlegging and crap goes on, people will always keep going to the theatre. Almost every closeup of the Joker made me cringe. You can't beat that experience.

Word to the mother. There has never been a bad Batman movie. Or cartoon series. Or syndicated television show from 1966. I want to see Clayface in theaters. Or Brainiac.

Or.

[Khariz]

Just saw it. Still cleaning out my shorts from the awesomeness.

[Deathravin]

I'd say all the shitty batman movies with Val Kilmer and George Clooney (the fact that Office’s spell-check knew how to spell Clooney makes me a sad Panda) sucked some pretty hairy balls.
There are only 4 batman movies: the two from Tim Burton, and the newest ones. The black-light ones were too ridiculous for words.

I never could have imagined somebody beating Jack Nicholson's Joker. But Heath Ledger did it, and did it superbly. After this movie, the Tim Burton ones are looking pretty comic-bookish too. I think America mourns the loss of Ledger a bit more this weekend, he was clearly headed for acting greatness. It's sad we will never see what other masterpices he could have given us.

[grenthor]

Word to the mother. There has never been a bad Batman movie. Or cartoon series. Or syndicated television show from 1966. I want to see Clayface in theaters. Or Brainiac.

Or.

I don't know if anyone here is a fan of the current Dr. Who series (I definately am) but there are rumours going around that the current Dr. Who (David Tennant) is possibly going to be in one of the next Batman movies as the Riddler.

I think he could be an awesome Dark Knight era Riddler.

[grenthor]

Went and saw this today.

I've gotta jump right on the bandwagon and say holy crap that was amazing.

couple of thoughts:

It's very morbid I know, but in a way I'm almost glad Heath died after making this. Only because everyone knows how Hollywood works - if something is awesome than you have to do it over and over and over until all the magic is gone and it sucks. This way there can be zero pressure to keep trying to recreate this even one more time. It leaves this single piece as being just utterly amazing and it can't ever be ruined. It sucks and all, but there it is.

I feel bad for Iron Man now. No ones gonna be talking about how awesome it was.

Erin Echart was amazing. I think they did go over the top just a bit on the makeup but fuck it, its a movie.

I like how Joker had different stories for how he got scarred.

My girlfriend actually covered her face a couple times, which is a good sign it's a really itense movie. She almost never does that.

All in all, 9/10 from me.

[Bobmuhthol]

Aaron Eckhart was a pretty cool dude, but I'm a little pissed about the duration of Two Face's lifespan.

[SHAFT]

Aaron Eckhart was a pretty cool dude, but I'm a little pissed about the duration of Two Face's lifespan.

No one knows if he is dead or alive. No one knows what happened to the Joker. Those 2 things pissed me off but also left me wondering, which isn't a bad thing. I hated how the Joker was left hanging there.

I know Ledger is dead, but that character was THE FUCKING MAN! There has to be an actor out there with the chops and the balls to come out and take that role. I can think of one man and one man only and that's Depp, but he'd be so different from Ledger I don't know if it'd work.

Can they make another Batman without the Joker?

[BriarFox]

Aaron Eckhart was a pretty cool dude, but I'm a little pissed about the duration of Two Face's lifespan.

I think this article: http://www.collegehumor.com/article:1757347 pretty much sums up Two-face's terror quotient.

[Mighty Nikkisaurus]

I got a wicked migraine from the sonar parts. I couldn't force myself to look away.

[Bobmuhthol]

<<No one knows if he is dead or alive.>>

I feel like the story would be so fucking retarded if Two Face came back. It would completely destroy the entire plot of The Dark Knight.

"Let's make sure Harvey Dent is awesome forever."
*hooray Harvey Dent!*
"Lol, just kidding, fuck that entire half hour of development."

[Mighty Nikkisaurus]

<<No one knows if he is dead or alive.>>

I feel like the story would be so fucking retarded if Two Face came back. It would completely destroy the entire plot of The Dark Knight.

"Let's make sure Harvey Dent is awesome forever."
*hooray Harvey Dent!*
"Lol, just kidding, fuck that entire half hour of development."

Yeah.. I was kind of hoping that they'd make Two-face into a totally different Batman movie but they smooshed it all together and the memorial scene kind of led me to believe he is really dead.

[Zarli]

No one knows if he is dead or alive. No one knows what happened to the Joker. Those 2 things pissed me off but also left me wondering, which isn't a bad thing. I hated how the Joker was left hanging there.

I know Ledger is dead, but that character was THE FUCKING MAN! There has to be an actor out there with the chops and the balls to come out and take that role. I can think of one man and one man only and that's Depp, but he'd be so different from Ledger I don't know if it'd work.

Can they make another Batman without the Joker?


yeah! I was thinking that Depp could take on that role and probably do a good job, not the same but I could totally see him doing it.

[Jahira]

I think a few things were a little too far out there.

No way to evacuate a hospital in 60 minutes. How do you set explosives in every room in a hospital anyway?

How do you load a ferry full of explosive barrells without anyone noticing.

Worst of all. How do you get T-boned in a lambo and get out and not have a single bruise.

[Tisket]

It's sad we will never see what other masterpices he could have given us.

Yeah, no "A Knight's Tale 2" now /cry

(That's not tongue-in-cheek FYI, I loved that movie.)

[Mighty Nikkisaurus]

Yeah, no "A Knight's Tale 2" now /cry

(That's not tongue-in-cheek FYI, I loved that movie.)

Haha me too.

"I'd rather be a silly girl with a flower than a silly boy with a horse and a stick!"

[Khariz]

I think a few things were a little too far out there.

No way to evacuate a hospital in 60 minutes. How do you set explosives in every room in a hospital anyway?

How do you load a ferry full of explosive barrells without anyone noticing.

Worst of all. How do you get T-boned in a lambo and get out and not have a single bruise.

Who the fuck said there were explosives in every room? Just cause lots of the windows blew out didn't meant there was explosives in ever room.

Cargo area and passenger area are not the same. If he's buying everyone else in the city out, why not the ferry workers.

You really think Bruce Wayne's Lambo is a regular car? Give me a fucking break.

Worst thought out complaints ever.

[Mighty Nikkisaurus]

Plus, it's a movie, and one based on a comic at that.

They aren't meant to be TOTALLY REALISTIC.

[TheEschaton]

I can evacuate a hospital in 60 minutes, no problem.

-TheE-

[Bobmuhthol]

lolracism

[Shari]

We had plans to see this. Got there an hour early. Line already had like 50 people in it...which the fucking staff had GOING OUT THE DOOR OF THE THEATER INTO 105 DEGREE WEATHER instead of circling around. 7months pregnant out in sun/heat for an hour? No.

We exchanged our tickets and saw Handcock instead. I was sad. Handcock was good but now I know I'm going to have to wait a week to see Batman. :(

[iJin]

Dude.

It ruled in every way ruling could rule.

[Deathravin]

Need to add (spoilers) onto the subject now... It really is mean to talk about the plot without warning about spoilers first.

[Kitsun]

The Joker is going to sit in the Asylum for a movie or two. Bringing him back immediately would be silly.

The Riddler could cause some beautiful mayhem as long as they don't cast a freaking comedian to play his part again. So many of Batman's other villians don't seem to have enough depth to fill a movie. Penguin? The Croc? Poison Ivy? Mr. Freeze? I think it is way too soon to reopen the wound of Catwoman.

[diethx]

Need to add (spoilers) onto the subject now... It really is mean to talk about the plot without warning about spoilers first.

FFS, seriously. Luckily I was smart enough to just skip past the posts where it seemed like people would be spilling details like douches. :D

[Solkern]

I'm going to show you guys a magic trick, and make this pen disappear!

[Mighty Nikkisaurus]

The Joker is going to sit in the Asylum for a movie or two. Bringing him back immediately would be silly.

The Riddler could cause some beautiful mayhem as long as they don't cast a freaking comedian to play his part again. So many of Batman's other villians don't seem to have enough depth to fill a movie. Penguin? The Croc? Poison Ivy? Mr. Freeze? I think it is way too soon to reopen the wound of Catwoman.

I actually really liked Jim Carey as the Riddler. Maybe not as "dark" as people would have liked him to be but I thought he did a good job making a distinction between The Riddler and the Joker.

[Jahira]

Who the fuck said there were explosives in every room? Just cause lots of the windows blew out didn't meant there was explosives in ever room.

Cargo area and passenger area are not the same. If he's buying everyone else in the city out, why not the ferry workers.

You really think Bruce Wayne's Lambo is a regular car? Give me a fucking break.

Worst thought out complaints ever.


You still didn't address the evacuating a hospital in under 60 minutes. Working in a hospital I know that is impossible.

Poor choice of words with every room in the hospital. But to be able to implant enough explosives to destroy the entire building.....

Buying out the Ferry workers. Plausible, but how the Joker did it could have been solved with one line of dialogue.

If he did have a "super" lambo, how come it was still crushed? Crushed = injuries. Unless only the driver side is untouchable and the rest is a regular car. Get out of town if you believe that one.

Worst thought out reply to the unrealistic portions of the movie ever

[iJin]

It's a movie.


Get the fuck over it.

[Fallen]

Wow. Suspend your disbelief you nerds.

[Daniel]

I think a few things were a little too far out there.

No way to evacuate a hospital in 60 minutes. How do you set explosives in every room in a hospital anyway?

How do you load a ferry full of explosive barrells without anyone noticing.

Worst of all. How do you get T-boned in a lambo and get out and not have a single bruise.


I don't understand how people like you enjoy anything in life.

[Ilvane]

Don't you know we all live a world where BATMAN ACTUALLY EXISTS??

[BriarFox]

Don't you know we all live a world where BATMAN ACTUALLY EXISTS??

I am Batman. Oh, shit, I wasn't supposed to tell you that. Fuck.

[Stunseed]

< The Riddler could cause some beautiful mayhem as long as they don't cast a freaking comedian to play his part again. So many of Batman's other villians don't seem to have enough depth to fill a movie. Penguin? The Croc? Poison Ivy? Mr. Freeze? I think it is way too soon to reopen the wound of Catwoman. >

Brianiac, Bane, Riddler would all be suitable for a full length feature. Okay, so maybe not Bane but still.

[Clove]

I'm going to show you guys a magic trick, and make this pen disappear!Best line ever.

[LadyLaphrael]

Thought he got beat out by Heath Ledger for the Joker, I always thought Paul Bettany would make for a great Riddler if they did choose to go that route.

But really, we all know what villain should be done next. Bring back some campy Egghead.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/57/Egghead_batman.jpg/200px-Egghead_batman.jpg

[Clove]

I think Two Face will dominate the next feature. Riddler is awesome and there's only one dude I would cast as Riddler today- Alan Cumming.

[grenthor]

I think Two Face will dominate the next feature. Riddler is awesome and there's only one dude I would cast as Riddler today- Alan Cumming.

He might could do alright with it actually... Though I think I'd still prefer to see Tennant take a whack at it if it happens at all.

[TheEschaton]

How exactly is Two-Face gonna dominate the next one? Whoops, the Joker's really the dead one, and Two-Face isn't??

[Kranar]

I could be wrong but to me it seemed like Two Face's death was actually an integral part of the story. Bringing him back might satisfy Two Face fans, but it would ruin what I think is supposed to be a more engaging Batman series.

[Stanley Burrell]

But really, we all know what villain should be done next. Bring back some campy Egghead.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/57/Egghead_batman.jpg/200px-Egghead_batman.jpg

Holy shit.

Hollywood could make it work. Dude-lady: Wow. The writers could at least have him as a stooge character that spews one-liners for a guest appearance. Dan Aykroyd, again, for the win.

Probably why I don't write movie scripts, but still!

[Parkbandit]

I could be wrong but to me it seemed like Two Face's death was actually an integral part of the story. Bringing him back might satisfy Two Face fans, but it would ruin what I think is supposed to be a more engaging Batman series.

Exactly. The ending was really perfect imo.

Great fucking movie.

[Parkbandit]

Thought he got beat out by Heath Ledger for the Joker, I always thought Paul Bettany would make for a great Riddler if they did choose to go that route.

But really, we all know what villain should be done next. Bring back some campy Egghead.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/57/Egghead_batman.jpg/200px-Egghead_batman.jpg


Actually, my money is on Catwoman being the next one. Did you hear the comment about the new armor stopping dogs, but not "CATS"?

[Stanley Burrell]

Actually, my money is on Catwoman being the next one. Did you hear the comment about the new armor stopping dogs, but not "CATS"?

They can't bring back The Riddler or Catwoman until they innovate Clayface on the movie screen, dammit.

Though, I wouldn't mind seeing Uma again :D

[Fallen]

Though, I wouldn't mind seeing Uma again >>

They could have the movie open with her being brutally murdered. That's about all I want out of her in my movie watching experience, a quick and brutal end.

[Tisket]

He needs a supervillain that isn't also freaking looney tunes. There were some storylines where he battled Dracula. I think I could enjoy that. Dracula is just evil, not batshit crazy.

Wiki:

The Batman vs. Dracula, "Batman Fights Dracula" and Andy Warhol's "Batman Dracula," as well as DC Comics' Elseworlds graphic novel trilogy Batman & Dracula: Red Rain, Batman: Bloodstorm, and Batman: Crimson Mist.

[Silique]

Batman vs The Dark Knight

http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1813453


They look oddly similar to me.

[Fallen]

Suck it, Spiderman Three!

'Dark Knight' sets weekend record with $155.34M

Jul. 20, 2008 1:47 PM ET (AP)
LOS ANGELES (AP) _ Batman has sent Spidey packing as king of Hollywood's box-office superheroes.
"The Dark Knight" took in a record $155.34 million in its first weekend, topping the previous best of $151.1 million for "Spider-Man 3" in May 2007 and pacing Hollywood to its biggest weekend ever, according to studio estimates Sunday.
"We knew it would be big, but we never expected to dominate the marketplace like we did," said Dan Fellman, head of distribution for Warner Bros., which released "The Dark Knight." The movie should shoot past the $200 million mark by the end of the week, he said.
Hollywood set an overall revenue record of $253 million for a three-day weekend, beating the $218.4 million haul over the weekend of July 7, 2006, according to box-office tracker Media By Numbers.
"This weekend is such a juggernaut," said Nikki Rocco, head of distribution for Universal, whose musical "Mamma Mia!" debuted at No. 2 with $27.6 million.
Factoring in higher admission prices, "Spider-Man 3" may have sold slightly more tickets than "The Dark Knight."
At 2007's average price of $6.88, "Spider-Man 3" sold 21.96 million tickets over opening weekend. Media By Numbers estimates today's average movie prices at $7.08, which means "The Dark Knight" would have sold 21.94 million tickets.
Revenue totals for "The Dark Knight" could change when final numbers are released Monday.
The movie's release was preceded by months of buzz and speculation over the performance of the late Heath Ledger as the Joker, Batman's nemesis. Ledger, who died in January from an accidental prescription-drug overdose, played the Joker as a demonic presence, his performance prompting predictions that the role might earn him a posthumous Academy Award nomination.
"The average opening gross of the last five `Batman' movies is $47 million. This tripled that, and for a reason," said Paul Dergarabedian, president of Media By Numbers. "A big part of that was the Heath Ledger mystique and a phenomenal performance that absolutely deserves the excitement surrounding it."
"The Dark Knight" reunites director Christopher Nolan with his "Batman Begins" star Christian Bale, whose vigilante crime-fighter is taunted and tested by Ledger's Joker as the villain unleashes violence and chaos on the city of Gotham.
Overseas, "The Dark Knight" added $40 million in 20 countries where it began opening Wednesday, including Australia, Mexico and Brazil. The film opens in Great Britain this weekend and rolls out to most of the rest of the world over the next few weeks.
"The Dark Knight," which cost $185 million to make, also broke the "Spider-Man 3" record for best debut in IMAX large-screen theaters with $6.2 million. "Spider-Man 3" opened with $4.7 million in IMAX cinemas.
"Every single show is sold out," said Greg Foster, IMAX chairman and president. "We're adding shows as much as we can, but we're at 100 percent capacity."
On opening day Friday, "The Dark Knight" also took in more money than previously counted, Fellman said. The film pulled in a record $67.85 million, up nearly $1.5 million from the studio's estimates a day earlier.
The previous opening-day record also had been held by "Spider-Man 3" with $59.8 million.
Women accounted for most of the audience for "Mamma Mia!", which Universal opened as counter-programming to the male-dominated audience for "The Dark Knight."
"With the crowded summer, we knew we would have to find the right weekend, and this seemed like the perfect one considering three-quarters of our audience was female," Rocco said.
Based on the stage musical set to the tunes of ABBA, "Mamma Mia!" features Meryl Streep, Pierce Brosnan, Colin Firth, Stellan Skarsgard, Julie Walters and Christine Baranski.
The weekend's other new wide release, 20th Century Fox's animated family flick "Space Chimps," opened at No. 7 with $7.4 million.
Estimated ticket sales for Friday through Sunday at U.S. and Canadian theaters, according to Media By Numbers LLC. Final figures will be released Monday.
1. "The Dark Knight," $155.34 million.
2. "Mamma Mia!", $27.6 million.
3. "Hancock," $14 million.
4. "Journey to the Center of the Earth," $11.9 million.
5. "Hellboy II: The Golden Army," $10 million.
6. "WALL-E," $9.8 million.
7. "Space Chimps," $7.4 million.
8. "Wanted," $5.1 million.
9. "Get Smart," $4.1 million.
10. "Kung Fu Panda," $1.8 million.

[Marl]

Only idssapointment is that we wont see the Joker in any future movies, and if we do I doubt anyone can top Ledger

[Kitsun]

There isn't a single one of my friends that saw this movie and doesn't intend on seeing it again.

[Back]

I can’t wait for “The Dark Knight Returns”. Hopefully its a Rodriguez and Miller production.

[Drinin]

Saw it Friday with some people from work and Saturday with a few buddies. I plan on seeing it again this week when my girlfriend gets back in town. Excellent, excellent movie.

[Stanley Burrell]

Best line ever.

When he made the pencil disappear, I said, very loudly, in a crowded movie theater "FUCKING SICK."

Holy shit, they got commissioner Gordon's Hispanic sidekick down pat even.

I want to see Scarecrow added to the villain list too... But I don't even know how they'd create him as a character, especially for the Dark Knight series.

[JohnDoe]

Agreed the move was awesome.

If Gary Oldman wasn't playing Commissioner Gordon, I'd say he'd be a decent fit for the Joker. He's played some twisted roles before. How about Ryan Gosling? He's strange enough...

About Two-Face, I wonder if they could bring him back by saying the staged his death and had the memorial to save "face" and then locked him away deep inside Gotham Asylum. They never really did confirm that he was dead.

[Stanley Burrell]

Agreed the move was awesome.

If Gary Oldman wasn't playing Commissioner Gordon, I'd say he'd be a decent fit for the Joker. He's played some twisted roles before. How about Ryan Gosling? He's strange enough...

He could have been the only Ledger substitute for that role.

http://bloghogwarts.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/sirius-black.jpg

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/2075/5e026zorgsmokes1sx5.jpg

^

[Kitsun]

I want to see Scarecrow added to the villain list too... But I don't even know how they'd create him as a character, especially for the Dark Knight series.

Uh... Scarecrow was in Batman Begins. He was working with Ra's al Ghul to dump the chemicals into the water supply under Arkham Asylum.

[Mighty Nikkisaurus]

Uh... Scarecrow was in Batman Begins. He was working with Ra's al Ghul to dump the chemicals into the water supply under Arkham Asylum.

I could be totally wrong, but um wasn't the Scarecrow also in Dark Knight? In that garage scene?

[TheEschaton]

That was a guy pretending to be Scarecrow to lure bad guys to the scene, where his friends pretending to be Batman tried to kill them.

-TheE-

[radamanthys]

Scarecrow was in the first flick. Fake scarecrow in the DK- one of the earlier scenes.

I only read the last post. I'm watching it now. Because... uh... I have a major theater... in my... uh... computer.

Just saw the pencil scene. Fucking sick is right. Back to the flick. Ciao.


edit: er... last post being like two post ago- Kitsun's... Narc and theE can go to hell. j/k. love.

[Stanley Burrell]

I could be totally wrong, but um wasn't the Scarecrow also in Dark Knight? In that garage scene?

I didn't remember him being in The Dark Knight, that's why for the purposes of a workable both backstory and realism, maybe it'd be weird. But frickin' sexy if it were to happen anyway.

They could also make Bale the uberbad badass Batman was, but that'd make too many fans of the Burton's works era all emo.

[Stanley Burrell]

I could be totally wrong, but um wasn't the Scarecrow also in Dark Knight? In that garage scene?

LOL, that's what I thought too, I'd been trying to blind myself of every single movie review until I saw it. Kitsun is totally right, btw. I want the real Scarecrow though. The kind who works with The Riddler and builds the Dream Machine.

And Clayface. With the latest in CGI.

Edit to Add: What TheE said too. Holy God I'm tired. Scratch the old Gotham Scarecrow. That'll never happen. What will happen, dammit, is Harley Quinn will be all sexified in the next movie. I hope. Batman has the greatest super villain roster ever.

[radamanthys]

Catwoman and the Penguin need to come out- they're just too significant.

[JohnDoe]

He could have been the only Ledger substitute for that role.

http://bloghogwarts.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/sirius-black.jpg

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/2075/5e026zorgsmokes1sx5.jpg

^

The role that I was really thinking of was him in The Professional. I still think Gosling could pull it off: check out Lars and the Real Girl, Stay, and Fracture for a variety of intensity, insanity, and creepiness.

Edited to add - Oldman is really whacked out in Sid and Nancy too.

[JohnDoe]

Pretty sure that was the real Scarecrow, the one from Batman Begins.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0614165/

[Sean]

Where'd you get fake scarecrow from? he even gassed one of the guys who came after him. Maybe I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure he wasn't fake.

I thought the movie was great my only issue was who the hell votes to blow up their boat.

[Bobmuhthol]

<<I thought the movie was great my only issue was who the hell votes to blow up their boat.>>

... did you pay attention?

The two boats were given a time limit (midnight). They each had the detonator for the other boat. If one boat detonated the bomb on the other boat, they'd live; if they both didn't detonate the other boat's bomb, they'd all die at midnight. They had no real reason to suspect that they wouldn't have died, but Batman is a goddamn hero; neither boat detonated the other boat's bomb because they were also goddamn heroes.

[Stanley Burrell]

Pretty sure that was the real Scarecrow, the one from Batman Begins.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0614165/

My bad. I completely forgot the Governor of California was Mr. Freeze too. Jesus.

I still want to see an old school Scarecrow, with less of a dreary vibe and more irrational magic powers. The animated cartoon series kept on making me think that The Joker should've busted out in some backflips and been an equal match; strength-wise in the police station, for Batman himself. The morbid dreariness of the Dark Knight Gotham City kind of rocked. It added to the psychology of the plot, i.e., Ledger's role had to use that much more sophistication to illustrate the power of the psychotic mind that will dominate brute strength and nonsensical superhero/villain sheer muscle. It's going to take some getting used to, as the slapstick humor element has been completely eradicated. This is evolution, though.

I should eat a bottle of ginseng supplement for forgetting Murphy's performance that quickly. I remember the cartoons way better than the movies for some reason.

I do remember, I think, Jim Carey's line of "Riddle me this, riddle me that, what once was yellow, now is black/who's afraid of the big black bat."

I need to see Danny DeVito mind-controlling flocks of penguins. Badly. OCD badly. Anyone know any decent torrents?

[Stanley Burrell]

Where'd you get fake scarecrow from? he even gassed one of the guys who came after him. Maybe I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure he wasn't fake.

Too much WB after school + tiredness + senior moments. ARGH, he did use fear gas too. Shit :-[

[Stanley Burrell]

Stay, and Fracture for a variety of intensity, insanity, and creepiness.

Edited to add - Oldman is really whacked out in Sid and Nancy too.

Stay fucking ruled. I'm glad they aired it several times on HBO a few months back. I haven't seen Fracture yet, which is a crime.

[Sean]

<<I thought the movie was great my only issue was who the hell votes to blow up their boat.>>

... did you pay attention?

The two boats were given a time limit (midnight). They each had the detonator for the other boat. If one boat detonated the bomb on the other boat, they'd live; if they both didn't detonate the other boat's bomb, they'd all die at midnight. They had no real reason to suspect that they wouldn't have died, but Batman is a goddamn hero; neither boat detonated the other boat's bomb because they were also goddamn heroes.

No shit. However they took a vote on the civilian boat and it came out like 100 something to 300 something that they should blow up the other boat. Leaving the question.. who votes for their boat to get blown up instead of the other boat.

[Fallen]

People who don't believe in murder in the name of "possible" self defense. The man even said it on the good guy boat when the vote came down to it, "We're still here, which means the other boat hasn't decided to kill us yet."

There is also that whole giving into a terrorist thing.

[Stanley Burrell]

Before I look it up on IMDb, was the huge prisoner T-Bo from Friday?

[Bobmuhthol]

<<Leaving the question.. who votes for their boat to get blown up instead of the other boat.>>

They clearly did not vote "please blow up our boat."

[Stanley Burrell]

Deebo, fuck me. Him though. Yey.

[Mighty Nikkisaurus]

Where'd you get fake scarecrow from? he even gassed one of the guys who came after him. Maybe I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure he wasn't fake.

I thought the movie was great my only issue was who the hell votes to blow up their boat.

It was Cillian Murphy, the original Scarecrow. I looked it up on IMDb and he's casted as the Scarecrow for Dark Knight.

[Stanley Burrell]

Crapcrapcrapcrap, I need to watch every single Batman movie in chronological order again. And Fracture. uTorrent assemble and fix my brain cells.

[radamanthys]

even the 1940's batman who wants to KILL ALL JAPS!!111?

there was one (not oft referenced) movie before Adam West's, and all.

[Clove]

No shit. However they took a vote on the civilian boat and it came out like 100 something to 300 something that they should blow up the other boat. Leaving the question.. who votes for their boat to get blown up instead of the other boat.Yeah they took a vote... but it was interesting that the people voting to blow up the other didn't have the will to do it themselves. They wanted to "order" it done.

[BigWorm]

(SPOILER ALERT)

What are you guys, noobs? Harvey Dent is "dead", but what make you think that Two Face is dead? They had to have a funeral for Harvey Dent to preserve his White Knight image for the same reason that Batman took the blame at the end.

I don't think that they will do the Riddler as the main dude in the next one because as a villain he is pretty close the Joker. Also, I think that D-Bo from Friday would work pretty well as Bane. I just don't thing any other Batman villains are strong enough for an entire movie alone so they'll probably team up a few in the next one.

[Tisket]

(SPOILER ALERT)

That was more like (SPECULATION ALERT).

[Kitsun]

Where exactly would they throw a live Two-Face? Gordan and Batman still apparently believe in due process. They can't keep him in jail or Arkham Asylum since he's pretty freaking recognizable.

[Stanley Burrell]

Where exactly would they throw a live Two-Face? Gordan and Batman still apparently believe in due process. They can't keep him in jail or Arkham Asylum since he's pretty freaking recognizable.

I feel like he should break out of bondage before incarceration and go on the prowl again. Or if he's presumed dead, maybe hash out some one-liner like, "I was just getting started." And conveniently flip a nearby coin that Gotham places as a token-of-remembrance on/in his casket, or something like that. And somehow grabs hold of an officer's uzzi at the funeral procession.

Then psychotically stalk an unasploded Maggy Gillinhall and have an entire movie dedicated about that. Shoot.

[NocturnalRob]

When he made the pencil disappear, I said, very loudly, in a crowded movie theater "FUCKING SICK."

yeah, me and my two friends saw it on Saturday. When that scene happened, there was about 2 seconds of silence, and you could clearly hear our reaction before everyone gave a collective "ooooooh." Our responses were "OH SHIT!" "FUCKING DAMN!" and maniacal laughter, respectively. it was fitting.

[Stanley Burrell]

His sermon about knives is cool. Or when he refers to himself as a lost little puppy.

A pox upon the haters.

[Latrinsorm]

I think a few things were a little too far out there.How about the Skyhook thing? That shit was bananas....... but I gave it a pass because it's still a Batman movie, after all.
and included random shit (who cared about the big Morgan Freeman cell phone sonar hijinks, not me!).This may be the most ironic thing that has ever happened, but I've always found Batman's surveillance jones to be a hugely interesting part of his character: he doesn't have the powers of a Superman or Flash to literally patrol everywhere, so he makes sufficient gadgets to extend his reach. In a lot of the future stories I've read, he pretty much exclusively relies on robots and Orwell to get the job done.

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Now, in that vein, I'd very much like to see the Mad Hatter (rather than the Riddler) in the next movie. Batman is descending very rapidly into darkness - shall we see how deep the rabbit hole goes? Have the Mad Hatter off Alfred to get everyone good and upset at him, have Lucius ditch Batman once his spy games go out of bounds, and he'll be all alone and prone to hallucinogenic manipulation... I'd buy that for a dollar!

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They could also do the Knightfall saga with Bane the comic book archvillain genius rather than Bane the idiotic thug (FUCK YOU BATMAN AND ROBIN, WORST FUCKING BULLSHIT EVER). (MOTHERFUCKERS, YOU FUCKED UP MR. FREEZE TOO, YOU STUPID MOTHERFUCKERS.)

[SHAFT]

Whoever said that Scarecrow wasn't in this or it was a fake needs to be slapped with a whale cock. He was peddling his drugs and it made the one guy crazy, thats why they held the meeting.

I'd like to see Azrael brought in as the villian. Do a story like Wayne gets tired of running and passes the Batman mantle onto someone else, Azrael, who of course he meets in the 3rd movie. Just like in the comics, Azrael takes being Batman way too far and Wayne has to come back and kick ass.

I just can't think of another villian who'd work in the new Bat-world. If they do Catwoman I refuse to watch it.

[Miss Ismurii]

I want to see this movie, but I don't. I do because I love Batman, he's by far the best superhero ever created because he's all natural. But I also don't want to see it because clowns terrify me more than basically anything. I'd probably see it eventually anyways, I know it will be good.

[Xaerve]

Don't see it, you're retarded.

[Stanley Burrell]

That shit was bananas.

I lol'd.

[Warriorbird]

Latrin...

...Skyhook.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fulton_surface-to-air_recovery_system

[Kembal]

Saw it Friday night. Off the charts awesome.

I was kind of hoping that they'd keep Two-Face around (in the cartoons, Batman pretty much considers Dent turning into Two-Face his biggest failure, and I think the creation of Two-Face episodes are considered the best ones in this series), but it was a satisfying ending nonetheless.

And the ferry boat scene was terrific.

[iJin]

God, I saw it again today with my friend Amanda.


I still miss the Joker!

[Enceladus]

There's only one bad thing I can really say about the movie...

... and it's the fact that any sequel, I think, would be an impossibility, just because it would be so damn hard to top this one. And, story wise, it was so well contained that there's not much room for things to really jump off from, as it did with the final scene at the end of Batman Begins.

Yes, the Joker ain't dead, but I think it would be a horrible, horrible mistake for them to try to find someone to replace Ledger as Joker. Sure, some people might be able to somewhat match his stellar performance, but that's a somewhat bad thing to have to ask an actor. Most actors strive to set themselves apart from others, rather than simply emulate another one (though in this case, if someone COULD emulate that performance, I think it would, in turn, be the mark of a good actor).

But... if anyone could top this movie, I'd say Nolan and company would be able to do it. I remember thinking the same thing about Batman Begins, and how there'd be no goddamn way they could top it. I was wrong, obviously.

[Khariz]

Latrin...

...Skyhook.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fulton_surface-to-air_recovery_system

Yeah I was going to reply just to mention this too. The Skyhook was the only thing in the movie that's actually real. I LOL'ed at Latrin.

[Clove]

Saw it Friday night. Off the charts awesome.

I was kind of hoping that they'd keep Two-Face around (in the cartoons, Batman pretty much considers Dent turning into Two-Face his biggest failure, and I think the creation of Two-Face episodes are considered the best ones in this series), but it was a satisfying ending nonetheless.

And the ferry boat scene was terrific.You've read comics before right? What makes you think Two-Face is gone?

[Drew]

Haven't read any of this thread, just booked my tickets online because it doesn't come out here until Friday. I'm SO excited I can't begin to describe it. Tickets went for sale earlier today (in SA you book your seats when you buy your tickets) and pretty much all the good seats are already taken. I imagine it'll be sold out by tomorrow.

[Daniel]

If it's like anywhere else in Africa, just tip the guy a couple bucks and you're in the press box.

[NocturnalRob]

goddamnit, you can't arrest Batman!

http://www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/Movies/07/22/bale.questioned.ap/index.html

[Fallen]

He was busy being the hero those women needed him to be.

[Tisket]

I know someone who got arrested for assault when he broke a phone during an argument with his live-in girlfriend. So I'll withhold judgement until they give specifics about Bale's situation.

[Keller]

Assualt is putting another in apprehension (meaning knowledge, not fear) of imminent physical harm.

Any sort of violent activity works.

Brought to you by countless hours of learning shit I'll never need to know.

[Tisket]

Well they should rename it when an actual assault hasn't occurred then.

[Keller]

Well they should rename it when an actual assault hasn't occurred then.

You're thinking of battery, which is "a completed assault".

Assault is just a threat or even less than a threat if the victim thinks they're in danger.

[Tisket]

Fucking legalese.

[Warriorbird]

Gosh. I just suffered from 'law school vu,' the feeling that law school has already started.

[Keller]

Fucking legalese.

Don't even get me started.

10 days and I'm fucking done with this shit.

[NocturnalRob]

Don't even get me started.

10 days and I'm fucking done with this shit.

taking the bar?

[Bobmuhthol]

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/thedishrag/2008/07/dark-knight-chr.html

[NocturnalRob]

why so serious?

[Keller]

taking the bar?

Unfortunately.

[NocturnalRob]

Unfortunately.

yeah, i've got about 2 dozen friends who have been freaking out for the past 2 months. all i know is, there are going to be a lot of recently graduated lawyers who are wasted on july 31st...

good luck, man. fuck that shit up.

[Daniel]

There are a lot lawyers wasted on *any* day. How else do you think they sleep at night?

[NocturnalRob]

There are a lot lawyers wasted on *any* day. How else do you think they sleep at night?

drifting along peacefully on a river of the tears of people they've screwed over

[CrystalTears]

drifting along peacefully on a river of the tears of people they've screwed over
That's almost sig-worthy. :D

[NocturnalRob]

That's almost sig-worthy. :D

bah! so close!! one day, CT...one day...

[Keller]

drifting along peacefully on a river of the tears of people they've screwed over

On rafts made of money. Don't forget that.

[BigWorm]

Crapcrapcrapcrap, I need to watch every single Batman movie in chronological order again. And Fracture. uTorrent assemble and fix my brain cells.

Yeah after the disasters that proceeded it, I assumed that Batman Begins licked donkey balls as well so I never saw it but I think I may go back and check it out now since I have the rip on my file server at home.

[Latrinsorm]

Yeah I was going to reply just to mention this too. The Skyhook was the only thing in the movie that's actually real. I LOL'ed at Latrin.I missed the part where in the design one guy was supposed to WRAP HIS ARMS AROUND THE OTHER GUY and magically hold on to him as he was accelerated to AIRPLANE SPEED. Good luck with that being "actually real". :)

[Stanley Burrell]

goddamnit, you can't arrest Batman!

http://www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/Movies/07/22/bale.questioned.ap/index.html

I like how it's a family matter because the police didn't file charges. I refuse to believe Bale did that shit. I doubt he did.

[Khariz]

I missed the part where in the design one guy was supposed to WRAP HIS ARMS AROUND THE OTHER GUY and magically hold on to him as he was accelerated to AIRPLANE SPEED. Good luck with that being "actually real". :)

I didn't say the method of execution was real, hehe. I just thought it was funny that the one think you decided to poop on was the one thing with a basis in reality, hehe.

[Clove]

I missed the part where in the design one guy was supposed to WRAP HIS ARMS AROUND THE OTHER GUY and magically hold on to him as he was accelerated to AIRPLANE SPEED. Good luck with that being "actually real". :)Apparently you've never had a drink on a flight to Miami. Skyhook was an absolutely real program and was actually deployed.

[Latrinsorm]

Actually deployed with, and I quote, "an overall-type harness", not "a firm instruction to 'Hold tight, boys.' and a hearty slap on the back for good luck". As to your observation, I've never snatched a drink off the tarmac with my hand while the plane was at takeoff speed, no. I imagine it would go pretty disastrously.

[Tsa`ah]

and included random shit (who cared about the big Morgan Freeman cell phone sonar hijinks, not me!).

All of the "random crap" was to make the movie more cerebral, to demonstrate how far Batman would operate outside of the law and accepted morality.


I'm going to show you guys a magic trick, and make this pen disappear!

If you were ever in possession of a "geek card" turn it in on your way out ... it was a pencil.


Suck it, Spiderman Three!

Imagine how well it would have done if this economy resembled the economy during that release.


I missed the part where in the design one guy was supposed to WRAP HIS ARMS AROUND THE OTHER GUY and magically hold on to him as he was accelerated to AIRPLANE SPEED. Good luck with that being "actually real". :)

Except Batman strapped himself Lau.

The wife actually wanted to see the movie simply because of Ledger. So we went to the Sunday matinee slightly jet lagged rather than wait until nine to see it at the drive in where we wouldn't have to deal with annoyances.

This being a college town, we had to deal with students constantly texting ... the glow of lcd displays was almost as annoying as the kid sitting in front of me shitting his pants every five minutes.

We gave up after 20 minutes and decided to nap the rest of the day and see it at the drive-in after all.

In the realm of speculation if there was another movie with a Joker role ... Depp would probably be the way to go. I could see them bringing Ra's back but my vote goes to the Black Mask.

But I digress ... all of you officially suck for not getting geeked over the Watchmen trailer.

[Sean]

But I digress ... all of you officially suck for not getting geeked over the Watchmen trailer.

Half the boards probably weren't alive when the watchmen was released (I was 3). I just started reading it to see what the hype was all about, so far its interesting at least. But there is a thread about it somewhere.

[NocturnalRob]

But I digress ... all of you officially suck for not getting geeked over the Watchmen trailer.

you didn't post for over a month and i was so fucking happy. PISS OFF. no one likes you.

diaf

[Izzy]

Actually deployed with, and I quote, "an overall-type harness", not "a firm instruction to 'Hold tight, boys.' and a hearty slap on the back for good luck". As to your observation, I've never snatched a drink off the tarmac with my hand while the plane was at takeoff speed, no. I imagine it would go pretty disastrously.

Batman definitely wrapped a strap around the dude. Granted it wasn't a full harness, but he didn't just grab onto him either.

[Tsa`ah]

Half the boards probably weren't alive when the watchmen was released (I was 3). I just started reading it to see what the hype was all about, so far its interesting at least. But there is a thread about it somewhere.

You should probably work on dying in a fire.


you didn't post for over a month and i was so fucking happy. PISS OFF. no one likes you.

diaf

And you are?

[Clove]

Actually deployed with, and I quote, "an overall-type harness", not "a firm instruction to 'Hold tight, boys.' and a hearty slap on the back for good luck". As to your observation, I've never snatched a drink off the tarmac with my hand while the plane was at takeoff speed, no. I imagine it would go pretty disastrously.Batman was wearing a harness, and he wasn't going 500 knots when he grabbed the chink.

[LadyLaphrael]

Yeah, this wins.

http://www.ibeatyou.com/entry/2fc9e5/the-dark-knight-joker-interrogation-scene-spoof

[MotleyCrew]

Movie Rocks, definately one I'll own.

Bummed that Heath Ledger is gone. :(

Read this morning its rumored Johnny Depp is going to play the Riddler and Philip Seymour Hoffman the Penguin in the next movie.

[Kranar]

I must tout my own horn, but it's official (http://chud.com/articles/articles/16196/1/IT039S-OFFICIAL-TWO-FACE-IS-DEAD/Page1.html), Two Face did in fact die and will not be returning.

According to the interview with Aaron Eckhart:

"He admitted that he had asked Christopher Nolan the same thing when making the film, and the response was the same: "I asked Chris if there was a chance of coming back. 'No way,' he said. 'He's toast.'"

[Tea & Strumpets]

Read this morning its rumored Johnny Depp is going to play the Riddler and Philip Seymour Hoffman the Penguin in the next movie.

Why are they just repeating the previous Batman movies? Further proof that Superman would beat the shit out of Batman (please ignore that the last Superman remake had him fighting Lex Luthor again).

I thought the latest Batman remake was ok, but not all that impressive. I liked the previous one better.

[crazymage]

Depp wont be the riddler.

[diethx]

Why not? I could see him in the part.

[Danical]

I think Ledger's Joker was a billion times better and far more accurate to the comic book.

Also, Superman is the stupidest comic book hero of all time.

Apparently, you and I must fight to the death.

:fence:

[crazymage]

Why not? I could see him in the part.

He could do any part, but i'd bet heavily the next villain wont be a main stream one. More like Ra'as from Begins.

[Celephais]

Also, Superman is the stupidest comic book hero of all time.
Completely agree, Superman is the dumbest comic book hero ever.

[Drew]

Superman was ok before he suffered from insane power creep. What makes heroes interesting is their weakness not their strengths.

[droit]

But..but...he can shoot lazerz from his eyez!!

[Mighty Nikkisaurus]

Why are they just repeating the previous Batman movies? Further proof that Superman would beat the shit out of Batman (please ignore that the last Superman remake had him fighting Lex Luthor again).

I thought the latest Batman remake was ok, but not all that impressive. I liked the previous one better.

Superman blows. Spiderman is emo.

Batman rocks.

That is all.

[Tea & Strumpets]

I'm ignoring all 3 of you blasphemous bastards!

[Tisket]

I think Ledger's Joker was a billion times better and far more accurate to the comic book.

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w66/Sassy_Photos_2007/mcd.jpg

[Stanley Burrell]

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w66/Sassy_Photos_2007/mcd.jpg

That's awesome. Oh man.

Someone could use this as a photo-editing op to transform His Dark Knightliness into the BK King. CELEPHAIS, YOU OWE US.

[SHAFT]

Yeah, I never understood the fascination with Superman. The only way another Superman movie would be any good is if he squared off with a villain equal to Supes. I'm thinking Darkseid or Doomsday.

Oh, get a new Superman too.

[Celephais]

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u222/GuinnessKMF/funnycomic_jokersboner.jpg

[DeV]

This joint is even more awesome on Imax. Fuckin' loved it.