Reactivatin old thw GS3 warrior

[flipmod3]

only level 23..
thoughts?

Race: Dwarf Profession: Warrior (shown as: Raider)
Gender: Male Age: 51 Expr: 628513 Level: 23
Normal (Bonus) ... Enhanced (Bonus)
Strength (STR): 100 (35) ... 100 (35)
Constitution (CON): 97 (38) ... 97 (38)
Dexterity (DEX): 95 (22) ... 95 (22)
Agility (AGI): 95 (17) ... 95 (17)
Discipline (DIS): 77 (23) ... 77 (23)
Aura (AUR): 75 (2) ... 75 (2)
Logic (LOG): 54 (7) ... 54 (7)
Intuition (INT): 51 (0) ... 51 (0)
Wisdom (WIS): 59 (4) ... 59 (4)
Influence (INF): 39 (-15) ... 39 (-15)

Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Armor Use..........................| 160 60
Combat Maneuvers...................| 149 49
Two-Handed Weapons.................| 149 49
Ambush.............................| 90 20
Multi Opponent Combat..............| 149 49
Physical Fitness...................| 124 32
Dodging............................| 136 38
Harness Power......................| 15 3
Perception.........................| 50 10
Climbing...........................| 54 11
Swimming...........................| 54 11
Training Points: 0 Phy 15 Mnt (134 Mnt converted to Phy)

[Martaigne]

IMO, lower ambush to .5x, lower MOC to 1x, raise PF and dodging to 2x. You can probably be in MBP at level 25.

edit: 35 ranks MOC is a nice number too, I could go with that.

[Khariz]

IMO, lower ambush to .5x, lower MOC to 1x, raise PF and dodging to 2x. You can probably be in MBP at level 25.

edit: 35 ranks MOC is a nice number too, I could go with that.

I agree with these suggestions. You'll only ever need 30 ranks of ambush ever to reach a good plateau of success %.

I like to stop at 60 ranks of MOC for 3 focused, 5 open swings. Getting there via 1x training though makes good sense so that you can 2x dodge and 2x physical fitness.

You want the redux that 2x+ fitness will give you and the DS that 2x dodge will give you as a two hander. Trust me. If you wind up with any extra points this way, dump them into armor usage until you reach 140 ranks.

[Martaigne]

If you wind up with any extra points this way, dump them into armor usage until you reach 140 ranks.

Yeah, that. You should be in MBP at 25, ABP at 32, Halfplate at 39, and full plate as early as 45 if you do this.

By 25, I sacrificed the points to get up to 35 ranks MOC, and I'm letting it sit until my level catches up to it. I was still in MBP at this point, though my tertiary skills suffered a bit. I'm happy with berserking in warcamps. If you've never seen any of Khariz' logs for this, go look.

[Khariz]

http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?t=33875

http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?t=33874

[flipmod3]

Thanks for the replies.
Because I'll be lowering MOP and ambush, would it be a wise choice to pick up brawling?

edit:nm, saw what you said about armor use.
i tossed the rest into MOC

[Khariz]

Thanks for the replies.
Because I'll be lowering MOP and ambush, would it be a wise choice to pick up brawling?

Not unless you are in voln and plan to Fu. Doesn't do jack these days for ya. Just pump the extra points into armor and dodge. Dodge is where you get your DS.

[Martaigne]

And don't forget parry master, surge of strength, and combat mobility for cmans!

[flipmod3]

I know fuck all about CM's, they werent around when I played. What's the most important order to get them in?

[flipmod3]

(slightly) offtopic:
I called Simu the other day to reactivate one of my mules from my old premium account and lo and behold I had a level 20 warrior who's TWC. So this leads me to my next question:

Is TWC viable, or am I just better off converting him to a paladin? He's on a different account and just glancing at the paladin spell list I could see how it would be beneficial for them to hunt together.

[Martaigne]

It's viable. The training is actually very similar to THW style, meaning Dodge is your ally.

MStriking TWC users can get fearsome numbers of attacks.

[Martaigne]

I know fuck all about CM's, they werent around when I played. What's the most important order to get them in?

Any, really. I have 3 in wspec1, 4 in bonding, 3 in surge, and 2 in parry mastery at level 27. My next will be combat mobility.

[Borismere]

It's viable. The training is actually very similar to THW style, meaning Dodge is your ally.

MStriking TWC users can get fearsome numbers of attacks.

I kinda have to disagree with this. You're only getting 1 extra attack in due to the offhand. So say you're striking an opponent 6 times, with two weapon you get 7 and thats daggers or some small weapons I'd rather get 6 from a claid or lance or something.

Unless they changed it so the offhand gets the same attacks. So it'll be 12 attacks for a two weapon user, which makes far far more sense to me. But whatever.

[Martaigne]

I kinda have to disagree with this. You're only getting 1 extra attack in due to the offhand. So say you're striking an opponent 6 times, with two weapon you get 7 and thats daggers or some small weapons I'd rather get 6 from a claid or lance or something.

Unless they changed it so the offhand gets the same attacks. So it'll be 12 attacks for a two weapon user, which makes far far more sense to me. But whatever.

I'll double check this with my rogue later but I'm pretty certain I'm seeing multiple strikes per weapon.

[Martaigne]

~20 ranks MOC, two targets, two attacks per weapon.

>mstrike
You concentrate intently, focusing all your energies.
With instinctive motions, you weave to and fro striking with deliberate and unrelenting fury!
You swing a haon-hilted blued steel broadsword at a mountain troll!
AS: +211 vs DS: +17 with AvD: +30 + d100 roll: +15 = +239
... and hit for 55 points of damage!
Diagonal slash leaves a bloody trail across the mountain troll's torso.
The mountain troll is stunned!
You swing a gleaming silver baselard at a mountain troll!
AS: +206 vs DS: +16 with AvD: +24 + d100 roll: +55 = +269
... and hit for 42 points of damage!
Glancing slash to the mountain troll's shield arm!
You swing a haon-hilted blued steel broadsword at a mountain troll!
AS: +211 vs DS: +17 with AvD: +30 + d100 roll: +23 = +247
... and hit for 40 points of damage!
Strike through the palm!
You swing a gleaming silver baselard at a mountain troll!
AS: +206 vs DS: +17 with AvD: +24 + d100 roll: +98 = +311
... and hit for 57 points of damage!
Deep slash to the mountain troll's right forearm!
The mountain troll is stunned!

Your flurry of strikes leaves you off-balance and out of position.
Roundtime: 6 sec.

[Warriorbird]

My warrior:

2x two handed, 2x CM, 2x PF, 2x armor, 2x dodge, 2x MO

swim, climb, perc as thrown in

CMs:

Wspec, Bonding, Surge, Coup

[Borismere]

~20 ranks MOC, two targets, two attacks per weapon.

>mstrike
You concentrate intently, focusing all your energies.
With instinctive motions, you weave to and fro striking with deliberate and unrelenting fury!
You swing a haon-hilted blued steel broadsword at a mountain troll!
AS: +211 vs DS: +17 with AvD: +30 + d100 roll: +15 = +239
... and hit for 55 points of damage!
Diagonal slash leaves a bloody trail across the mountain troll's torso.
The mountain troll is stunned!
You swing a gleaming silver baselard at a mountain troll!
AS: +206 vs DS: +16 with AvD: +24 + d100 roll: +55 = +269
... and hit for 42 points of damage!
Glancing slash to the mountain troll's shield arm!
You swing a haon-hilted blued steel broadsword at a mountain troll!
AS: +211 vs DS: +17 with AvD: +30 + d100 roll: +23 = +247
... and hit for 40 points of damage!
Strike through the palm!
You swing a gleaming silver baselard at a mountain troll!
AS: +206 vs DS: +17 with AvD: +24 + d100 roll: +98 = +311
... and hit for 57 points of damage!
Deep slash to the mountain troll's right forearm!
The mountain troll is stunned!

Your flurry of strikes leaves you off-balance and out of position.
Roundtime: 6 sec.

Whoa, and here I always thought it was just one per and the extra offhand swing. Try doing a focused mstrike and see how many attacks you get.

[Mtenda]

What would be the best bond feature to use for a dual katar wielder?

[Loyrl]

/Hi Jack!

Does anyone have 90 ranks? I have enough for 3 strikes to one target, and I like it a lot!

>bers
Everything around you turns red as you work yourself into a berserker's rage!
>
You assault a stone sentinel with an unrelenting fury!
You swing a burnished rolaren dacien falx at a stone sentinel!
AS: +350 vs DS: +84 with AvD: +29 + d100 roll: +45 = +340
... and hit for 74 points of damage!
Large gash to the left arm, several muscles torn.
You swing a burnished rolaren dacien falx at a stone sentinel!
AS: +350 vs DS: +84 with AvD: +29 + d100 roll: +37 = +332
... and hit for 67 points of damage!
Strike to the eye clips the eyebrow.
You swing a burnished rolaren dacien falx at a stone sentinel!
AS: +350 vs DS: +74 with AvD: +29 + d100 roll: +68 = +373
... and hit for 83 points of damage!
Large gash to the left arm, several muscles torn.

[You have 6 repetition(s) remaining.]
>
A stone sentinel points at you!
CS: +250 - TD: +173 + CvA: -18 + d100: +78 - +30 == +107
Warding failed!
A stone sentinel blasts you for 10 points of damage.
... 30 points of damage!
Upper and lower arm shatter as they decompress!
You are stunned for 5 rounds!
>
Focusing on your bloodlust, you shake yourself out of the stun!
The redness fades from the world and you begin to breathe harder.
>bers
Everything around you turns red as you work yourself into a berserker's rage!
>
You assault a stone sentinel with an unrelenting fury!
You swing a burnished rolaren dacien falx at a stone sentinel!
AS: +350 vs DS: +72 with AvD: +29 + d100 roll: +16 = +323
... and hit for 71 points of damage!
Grazing blow to the stomach.
You swing a burnished rolaren dacien falx at a stone sentinel!
AS: +350 vs DS: +65 with AvD: +29 + d100 roll: +32 = +346
... and hit for 78 points of damage!
Blade slashes across the stone sentinel's face!
Nice nose job.
The stone sentinel totters for a moment and then falls to the ground like a pillar, breaking into pieces that fly out in every direction.
The very powerful look leaves a stone sentinel.
The white light leaves a stone sentinel.
The brilliant luminescence fades from around a stone sentinel.
The light blue glow leaves a stone sentinel.
The powerful look leaves a stone sentinel.

[You have 5 repetition(s) remaining.]
>
You spin around looking for something to attack!

Finding no target for your rage, you let out a horrendous scream of frustration!

The redness fades from the world and you begin to breathe harder.

[flipmod3]

Offtopic here,but paladin forum is a ghost town.

How are paladins, in term of balance?
Good, shit, somewhere in between?
1h+shield or 2h?

[Martaigne]

What would be the best bond feature to use for a dual katar wielder?


Offtopic here,but paladin forum is a ghost town.

How are paladins, in term of balance?
Good, shit, somewhere in between?
1h+shield or 2h?

Beats me, on all counts.

[Jaimaltz]

Offtopic here,but paladin forum is a ghost town.

How are paladins, in term of balance?
Good, shit, somewhere in between?
1h+shield or 2h?

Let's just say, if you have a warrior and you're thinking of converting to a Paladin, don't.

[Borismere]

Any TWC mstrikers try focusing mstriking something and counting the swings?

[Mtenda]

If you are fully trained in two weapon combat, then every extra attack that multi opps gives you will give one swing for each weapon.

[Borismere]

Let's just say, if you have a warrior and you're thinking of converting to a Paladin, don't.

Paladins are incredibly boring. I level'd one from birth to great lord, but much of it was "Well, it'll get better as I level." Well, it didn't.

[Borismere]

If you are fully trained in two weapon combat, then every extra attack that multi opps gives you will give one swing for each weapon.

Thats pretty nuts. I never knew that, I always thought it was the mutliple attacks with your primary and then one more overall at the end with your offhand. Wow, I guess then the best berserker will be a warrior armed with two perfect morning stars preferbly crit weighted.

Wow, thats nuts I'm making a berserker. Name him Slayer or something get him some nice morningstars. :bananahit:

[Mtenda]

Thats pretty nuts. I never knew that, I always thought it was the mutliple attacks with your primary and then one more overall at the end with your offhand. Wow, I guess then the best berserker will be a warrior armed with two perfect morning stars preferbly crit weighted.

Wow, thats nuts I'm making a berserker. Name him Slayer or something get him some nice morningstars. :bananahit:

You cannot swing a second weapon if your first swing is with a morning star. They are treated the same as whips in that way.

[Borismere]

You cannot swing a second weapon if your first swing is with a morning star. They are treated the same as whips in that way.

Hrm, so no TWC with morning stars then? What can and can't be swung ?

[Borismere]

NVM, Found It!!

09-10-2007, 01:16 AM
Donquix
Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 359


you cannot. you also cannot dual wield hybrid weapons such as bastard swords, katanas, or the ever popular bastardaxe. Some onehanded weapons are ineligible, such as ball and chains and whips. Morningstars used to be prohibited from TWC but the ban was lifted a while back.

[Latrinsorm]

Morning stars can be dual wielded. Whips, whip-blades, and ball(s?) & chains are the ones that can't.