thefarmer
06-19-2008, 03:51 PM
(I'm not the author, but since I know a lot of you don't read the officials, figured I'd share)
Regarding today's "Storven and Tryfena Visit the Shrine of Bob" event
By:XXLILROSEXX
I was entirely displeased with today?s alterations in Zul Logoth for several reasons. Previous to my post, people complained about the location and mechanics of it. Mine is more concerning the streamlining of Simutronics merchant events.
At ?Storven and Tryfena Visit the Shrine of Bob?, the first announcements regarded payment. Those present were told to put their ?donations to Bob? in a marked donation box. There was no further information on amounts, and figuring that most merchants ask for 15-25k, placed a donation of 20k. It was only later that the merchants clarified placing money for donation was to ?get their attention,? and an additional fee must be paid to the specific craftsperson for work. I would like to point out that a player present asked if a specific object could be given as donation, to which one merchant responded in the affirmative. The box would not accommodate said object, thus marking the first inconsistency for what was already a chaotic event.
Tryfena provided lightening and flares service while Storven did general alteration for weapons and armor. The event post on the site?s calendar did not state limitations other than the flares would be standard and that Tryfena would do either flares OR lightening service, but not both. Several of the clients waiting expected that flaring would include armor. Tryfena quickly squelched this idea: she would provide flaring to weapons ONLY. At the time 5 of us were present and they had made it clear that we could get a service from one merchant OR the other. No one argued with the merchants, but it did seem preemptive, considering that Tryfena?s service takes but moments.
My original request was for Storven, who refused to change my brigandine into a leather bodysuit. Mind you, one of the other players in the room had that very service done before, and oddly enough, did not want `bodysuit,? but her merchant revoked her original idea. The first thing I told Storven was that I wanted a show. I then told him the basic description, and then the show. It wasn?t until a few minutes later he asked if I wanted to keep the term brigandine. I repeated my request for a bodysuit, but he politely told me that he could not do that. How is it that one merchant would force the term leather bodysuit and one would deny it? He offered to change it to, ?Sleek black leathers,? but I politely reminded him that I could get something similar at my guild. I was slightly disappointed, but as he was very agreeable, I didn?t mind opting for another service.
Having discussed payment with Storven before he realized his decline, he considered the fact that I?d already paid 20k to the donation box, believing that was the entire fee. Dealing with Tryfena was another thing entirely. She asked for a payment of 25k up front. I replied that I had donated a good amount already and did not have that kind of coin on me anymore. She offered a runner and I wasn?t planning to argue. I also believe that his asking price was different from hers.
I asked for my same brigandine to be lightened. Before the event I had weighed it at 23 lbs., and after my service? it weighed between 23-25 lbs. Remarking upon this to a friend outside the shrine, I suddenly received a message of, ?You get the feeling that the armor was lightened.? And my armor? still weighed 23 lbs.
As the only rule considering getting multiple items done was regarding the same character, discreetly I had a falchion passed in several locations to my alternate for flaring. This time I came prepared with the appropriate amount of coin, asked quietly and politely, and simply planned to mind my own business. Tryfena, instead of recognizing that I followed the few rules she had laid out, whispered in response to a question regarding her services, "I am, but logging in as an alternate character is not kosher." I had not openly acknowledged that I was another character, and moreover, was shocked by her uncalled for animosity. Pulling together some composure I replied that I hadn?t broken any of her rules by logging onto another character, that using an alternate is no different than those who MA at such events, and considering the timing of her service and so few people present my request certainly was nothing extraordinary. Her response to this was, "It is at the discretion of the merchant. That is my choice." As any further words would fall on deaf ears, I told her to expect feedback and silently exited.
From the above narrative, you may see that the rules of conduct in merchanting must be streamlined. If there is a donation box, TELL us that it is for donation, and that further payment is expected. If an expected service is limited, like the case of no flaring armor, NOTE these limitations on calendar postings. You had several players who were almost entirely disinterested with the event after that announcement. There have also before been concerns over the usage of deity names that should be addressed, and please, for those of us that work hard on wording our alterations, make a list of acceptable and unacceptable noun changes.
This is my first letter of complaint after playing over 13 years, and needless to say, I am completely disheartened by the whole thing. Producing a more cohesive event is in the best interest of everyone.
..and my armor, for a total of 45k, still weighs 23 lbs.
Regarding today's "Storven and Tryfena Visit the Shrine of Bob" event
By:XXLILROSEXX
I was entirely displeased with today?s alterations in Zul Logoth for several reasons. Previous to my post, people complained about the location and mechanics of it. Mine is more concerning the streamlining of Simutronics merchant events.
At ?Storven and Tryfena Visit the Shrine of Bob?, the first announcements regarded payment. Those present were told to put their ?donations to Bob? in a marked donation box. There was no further information on amounts, and figuring that most merchants ask for 15-25k, placed a donation of 20k. It was only later that the merchants clarified placing money for donation was to ?get their attention,? and an additional fee must be paid to the specific craftsperson for work. I would like to point out that a player present asked if a specific object could be given as donation, to which one merchant responded in the affirmative. The box would not accommodate said object, thus marking the first inconsistency for what was already a chaotic event.
Tryfena provided lightening and flares service while Storven did general alteration for weapons and armor. The event post on the site?s calendar did not state limitations other than the flares would be standard and that Tryfena would do either flares OR lightening service, but not both. Several of the clients waiting expected that flaring would include armor. Tryfena quickly squelched this idea: she would provide flaring to weapons ONLY. At the time 5 of us were present and they had made it clear that we could get a service from one merchant OR the other. No one argued with the merchants, but it did seem preemptive, considering that Tryfena?s service takes but moments.
My original request was for Storven, who refused to change my brigandine into a leather bodysuit. Mind you, one of the other players in the room had that very service done before, and oddly enough, did not want `bodysuit,? but her merchant revoked her original idea. The first thing I told Storven was that I wanted a show. I then told him the basic description, and then the show. It wasn?t until a few minutes later he asked if I wanted to keep the term brigandine. I repeated my request for a bodysuit, but he politely told me that he could not do that. How is it that one merchant would force the term leather bodysuit and one would deny it? He offered to change it to, ?Sleek black leathers,? but I politely reminded him that I could get something similar at my guild. I was slightly disappointed, but as he was very agreeable, I didn?t mind opting for another service.
Having discussed payment with Storven before he realized his decline, he considered the fact that I?d already paid 20k to the donation box, believing that was the entire fee. Dealing with Tryfena was another thing entirely. She asked for a payment of 25k up front. I replied that I had donated a good amount already and did not have that kind of coin on me anymore. She offered a runner and I wasn?t planning to argue. I also believe that his asking price was different from hers.
I asked for my same brigandine to be lightened. Before the event I had weighed it at 23 lbs., and after my service? it weighed between 23-25 lbs. Remarking upon this to a friend outside the shrine, I suddenly received a message of, ?You get the feeling that the armor was lightened.? And my armor? still weighed 23 lbs.
As the only rule considering getting multiple items done was regarding the same character, discreetly I had a falchion passed in several locations to my alternate for flaring. This time I came prepared with the appropriate amount of coin, asked quietly and politely, and simply planned to mind my own business. Tryfena, instead of recognizing that I followed the few rules she had laid out, whispered in response to a question regarding her services, "I am, but logging in as an alternate character is not kosher." I had not openly acknowledged that I was another character, and moreover, was shocked by her uncalled for animosity. Pulling together some composure I replied that I hadn?t broken any of her rules by logging onto another character, that using an alternate is no different than those who MA at such events, and considering the timing of her service and so few people present my request certainly was nothing extraordinary. Her response to this was, "It is at the discretion of the merchant. That is my choice." As any further words would fall on deaf ears, I told her to expect feedback and silently exited.
From the above narrative, you may see that the rules of conduct in merchanting must be streamlined. If there is a donation box, TELL us that it is for donation, and that further payment is expected. If an expected service is limited, like the case of no flaring armor, NOTE these limitations on calendar postings. You had several players who were almost entirely disinterested with the event after that announcement. There have also before been concerns over the usage of deity names that should be addressed, and please, for those of us that work hard on wording our alterations, make a list of acceptable and unacceptable noun changes.
This is my first letter of complaint after playing over 13 years, and needless to say, I am completely disheartened by the whole thing. Producing a more cohesive event is in the best interest of everyone.
..and my armor, for a total of 45k, still weighs 23 lbs.