Something to strive for.

[Edaarin]

Lvl 68 rogue vs lvl 100 bard

Soulpieced changes his tune, adding a new element to his song...
>
Soulpieced skillfully begins to weave another verse into his harmony.
Soulpieced begins singing and focuses his voice into a dagger shaped vortex of air centered on his left hand.
>
Soulpieced says, "Try now."
>cman qstri soulp
You swing a closed fist at Soulpieced!
Soulpieced evades your attack!
Roundtime: 1 sec.
You feel rather tired after that quick movement.
>
cman qstri soulp
You swing a closed fist at Soulpieced!
Soulpieced parries your attack with his dagger!
Roundtime: 1 sec.
You feel rather tired after that quick movement.
>hea
You have old battle scars on your right arm.

Maximum Health Points: 181
Remaining Health Points: 181

Maximum Spirit Points: 10
Remaining Spirit Points: 10

Maximum Stamina Points: 79
Remaining Stamina Points: 69

>
cman qstri soulp

You swing a closed fist at Soulpieced!
Soulpieced evades your attack!
Roundtime: 1 sec.
You feel rather tired after that quick movement.
>cman qstri soulp

You swing a closed fist at Soulpieced!
Soulpieced evades your attack!
Roundtime: 1 sec.
You feel rather tired after that quick movement.
>cman qstri soulp

You swing a closed fist at Soulpieced!
Soulpieced evades your attack!
Roundtime: 1 sec.
You feel rather tired after that quick movement.
>cman qstri soulp

You swing a closed fist at Soulpieced!
Soulpieced evades your attack!
Roundtime: 1 sec.
You feel rather tired after that quick movement.
>cman qstri soulp

You swing a closed fist at Soulpieced!
Soulpieced evades your attack!
Roundtime: 1 sec.
You feel rather tired after that quick movement.
>cman qstri soulp

You swing a closed fist at Soulpieced!
Soulpieced evades your attack!
Roundtime: 1 sec.
You feel rather tired after that quick movement.
>Soulpieced chuckles.
>
cman qstri soulp

You swing a closed fist at Soulpieced!
Soulpieced evades your attack!
Roundtime: 1 sec.
You feel rather tired after that quick movement.
>cman qstri soulp

You swing a closed fist at Soulpieced!
Soulpieced evades your attack!
Roundtime: 1 sec.
You feel rather tired after that quick movement.
>cman qstri soulp

You swing a closed fist at Soulpieced!
Soulpieced parries your attack with his axe!
Roundtime: 1 sec.
You feel rather tired after that quick movement.
>cman qstri soulp

You swing a closed fist at Soulpieced!
Soulpieced evades your attack!
Roundtime: 1 sec.
You feel rather tired after that quick movement.
>'You're kiddin me right
hea
You say, "You're kiddin me right."
>You have old battle scars on your right arm.

Maximum Health Points: 181
Remaining Health Points: 181

Maximum Spirit Points: 10
Remaining Spirit Points: 10

Maximum Stamina Points: 79
Remaining Stamina Points: 19

>cman qstri soulp
You swing a closed fist at Soulpieced!
Soulpieced evades your attack!
Roundtime: 1 sec.
You feel rather tired after that quick movement.
>
Soulpieced grins.
>
cman qstri soulp
You swing a closed fist at Soulpieced!
Soulpieced parries your attack with his dagger!
Roundtime: 1 sec.
You feel rather tired after that quick movement.
>
cman qstri soulp
Soulpieced says, "Imagine 2x dodge."
>
You swing a closed fist at Soulpieced!
Soulpieced evades your attack!
Roundtime: 1 sec.
You feel rather tired after that quick movement.
>atta soul
Soulpieced winks at you.
>
You swing a closed fist at Soulpieced!
Soulpieced evades your attack!
Roundtime: 3 sec.
>hea
You have old battle scars on your right arm.

Maximum Health Points: 181
Remaining Health Points: 181

Maximum Spirit Points: 10
Remaining Spirit Points: 10

Maximum Stamina Points: 79
Remaining Stamina Points: 4

>
atta soul

You swing a closed fist at Soulpieced!
Soulpieced parries your attack with his dagger!
Roundtime: 3 sec.
>Soulpieced says, "No shield means more dodge."
>atta soul
You swing a closed fist at Soulpieced!
Soulpieced evades your attack!
Roundtime: 3 sec.
>
Soulpieced reaches out and holds your hand.
>atta soul
Soulpieced changes his tune, adding a new element to his song...
>
Soulpieced skillfully begins to weave another verse into his harmony.
As Soulpieced sings, a squall of wind briefly swirls around you. You feel yourself moving more smoothly and quickly than before!
>
You swing a closed fist at Soulpieced!
Soulpieced parries your attack with his dagger!
Roundtime: 3 sec.
Roundtime changed to 1 second.
>atta soul
You swing a closed fist at Soulpieced!
Soulpieced evades your attack!
Roundtime: 3 sec.
Roundtime changed to 1 second.
>
atta soul

>You swing a closed fist at Soulpieced!
Soulpieced evades your attack!
Roundtime: 3 sec.
Roundtime changed to 1 second.
>
atta soul

...wait 1 seconds.
>atta soul

You swing a closed fist at Soulpieced!
Soulpieced evades your attack!
Roundtime: 3 sec.
Roundtime changed to 1 second.
>atta soul

You swing a closed fist at Soulpieced!
Soulpieced parries your attack with his dagger!
Roundtime: 3 sec.
Roundtime changed to 1 second.
>atta soul

You swing a closed fist at Soulpieced!
Soulpieced evades your attack!
Roundtime: 3 sec.
Roundtime changed to 1 second.
>atta soul

You swing a closed fist at Soulpieced!
Soulpieced parries your attack with his axe!
Roundtime: 3 sec.
Roundtime changed to 1 second.
>atta soul

You swing a closed fist at Soulpieced!
Soulpieced evades your attack!
Roundtime: 3 sec.
Roundtime changed to 1 second.
>atta soul

You swing a closed fist at Soulpieced!
Soulpieced evades your attack!
Roundtime: 3 sec.
Roundtime changed to 1 second.
>atta soul

You swing a closed fist at Soulpieced!
Soulpieced parries your attack with his dagger!
Roundtime: 3 sec.
Roundtime changed to 1 second.
>atta soul

You swing a closed fist at Soulpieced!
Soulpieced parries your attack with his dagger!
Roundtime: 3 sec.
Roundtime changed to 1 second.
>atta soul

You swing a closed fist at Soulpieced!
Soulpieced evades your attack!
Roundtime: 3 sec.
Roundtime changed to 1 second.
>atta soul

You swing a closed fist at Soulpieced!
Soulpieced evades your attack!
Roundtime: 3 sec.
Roundtime changed to 1 second.
>atta soul

You swing a closed fist at Soulpieced!
Soulpieced evades your attack!
Roundtime: 3 sec.
Roundtime changed to 1 second.
>atta soul

>You swing a closed fist at Soulpieced!
Soulpieced evades your attack!
Roundtime: 3 sec.
Roundtime changed to 1 second.
>
atta soul

You swing a closed fist at Soulpieced!
Soulpieced evades your attack!
Roundtime: 3 sec.
Roundtime changed to 1 second.
>atta soul

You swing a closed fist at Soulpieced!
Soulpieced parries your attack with his dagger!
Roundtime: 3 sec.
Roundtime changed to 1 second.
>atta soul

You swing a closed fist at Soulpieced!
Soulpieced evades your attack!
Roundtime: 3 sec.
Roundtime changed to 1 second.
>atta soul

>You swing a closed fist at Soulpieced!
AS: +32 vs DS: +637 with AvD: -3 + d100 roll: +37 = -571
A clean miss.
Roundtime: 3 sec.
Roundtime changed to 1 second.
>
atta soul

You swing a closed fist at Soulpieced!
Soulpieced evades your attack!
Roundtime: 3 sec.
Roundtime changed to 1 second.
>'35 attacks
You say, "35 attacks."
>
Shirkon just arrived.
>'to get through
>
You say, "To get through."

[Czeska]

>gaze awe soulp

[Parkbandit]

That really just blows in my opinion. Now the higher level characters can be idiots, snerts and retards without the fear of me and my feras dagger to their eye.

[StrayRogue]

Could a lvl 60 whatever Rogue hit a lvl 100 bard in GS3 under normal conditions? No.

You realize that Dodge is aged based right? Or am I making the utterly most perceptive understatement of the year? I doubt anyone around lvl 30 could hit you Edaarin.

[Overlord]

Whoot for Dimmus 90 points of Stamina.... how many dodge ranks you have by the way

[longshot]

Originally posted by StrayRogue
Could a lvl 60 whatever Rogue hit a lvl 100 bard in GS3 under normal conditions? No.

You realize that Dodge is aged based right? Or am I making the utterly most perceptive understatement of the year? I doubt anyone around lvl 30 could hit you Edaarin.

Why do you always sound like such a whiny bitch, no matter what you post?

Get more protein in your diet...

[StrayRogue]

Ah imagine me when I get to 100. 3x dodge and no shield. *hum*

[StrayRogue]

Originally posted by longshot

Originally posted by StrayRogue
Could a lvl 60 whatever Rogue hit a lvl 100 bard in GS3 under normal conditions? No.

You realize that Dodge is aged based right? Or am I making the utterly most perceptive understatement of the year? I doubt anyone around lvl 30 could hit you Edaarin.

Why do you always sound like such a whiny bitch, no matter what you post?

Get more protein in your diet...

Because most people who post on these boards whine about simple mechanics? Or don't even know about the mechanics they whine about?

[Overlord]

level 100 3x Dodge and a greatshield just for the hell of it

[Czeska]

Soupieced doesn't need a greatshield, considering he can sing whatever the hell armor.. shield..weapon.. he wants.
Ah, the glory of sonics if breakage ever goes live.

[StrayRogue]

A greatshield would counteract the benefits of 3x dodge. I'd guess that 3x shield with a big fat tower shield might be as good at blocking as a 3x dodger is at evading however.

[Kitsun]

Well, people wanted a way to avoid kobolds from breaking apart their equipment with breakage live. Evasion like that is just about right.

[StrayRogue]

Originally posted by Kitsun
Well, people wanted a way to avoid kobolds from breaking apart their equipment with breakage live. Evasion like that is just about right.

Blocking and evading causes no clashes thankfully, so yeah, this is right. Age is the prime factor in the ability to dodge. So is stance. I bet you may have hit him if he was in offensive.

[Edaarin]

Did I bitch anywhere in my post? No. I'm merely commenting that I have about a 3% shot of touching Soulpieced, I got a grin out of it, he got a grin out of it, a good time was had by all.

And yeah, of course I can connect if he's in offensive, that goes for anyone.

[StrayRogue]

Try having someone in their 20's hit you Edaarin. I bet you'll see something exactly the same.

[Parkbandit]

I think you missed the point Strayrogue.. We know about the mechanics of it.. but I personally think it blows.

And yes, a level 60 rogue could hit a level 100 bard in GS3. Not everyone is fully stance defense with all spells on, a shield in the left hand and a weapon in the right every second they are in the game.

In GS4 though, it's next to impossible for a level 60 rogue to hit a level 80 anything, do to the dodge and block factors.

THAT is what I dislike about it.

[StrayRogue]

I disagree. I bet Edaarin could hit and kill Soulpieced if he, like you said was in offensive and spell-less. Evading is highly dependant on stance. Just like oldstyle stance defensive, older characters are made practically immune to the lower end of the player/critter base.

[Parkbandit]

Originally posted by StrayRogue
I disagree. I bet Edaarin could hit and kill Soulpieced if he, like you said was in offensive and spell-less. Evading is highly dependant on stance. Just like oldstyle stance defensive, older characters are made practically immune to the lower end of the player/critter base.

I'll beg to differ.. been there, tried that. I didn't have the luxery of trying it 32 times like Edaarin... but I can tell you there is a very small success rate of getting your 'kill' hit in on the first try. You miss, then you either open yourself up for an attack.. or you hide.. but the other character is now ready for an attack.

If I was swinging with some 500 AS at a target that had a DS of somewhere around 200.. then I should be able to complete my strike. Now, I have to successfully roll past a dodge and a block to even get to the attack.

I realize that block and dodge are stance related.. but there still is too high of a chance they block/dodge at any stance for my liking.

[StrayRogue]

Well the only way to really confirm either theory is to test it. Why don't you, Edaarin, try to hit SP while he is in offensive. Personally I think the system is just as "balanced" as it was. Instead of massive DS/TD's to hide behind, the new higher end has a greater chance to evade and block.

[Parkbandit]

Originally posted by StrayRogue
Well the only way to really confirm either theory is to test it. Why don't you, Edaarin, try to hit SP while he is in offensive. Personally I think the system is just as "balanced" as it was. Instead of massive DS/TD's to hide behind, the new higher end has a greater chance to evade and block.

I have no problem letting SP lay down and me whacking his right eye... Count me in!!

Hell, throw in an Edaarin and let's call it a party!

[Bobmuhthol]

A level 18 warrior could kill Boomsplat in GSIII.

With feras, of course, but it was still fucking hilarious.