Missing (Confiscated?) Item - Triforce Ring

[Methais]

So I went to show someone my triforce ring earlier today..which looks like this:

A golden triple delta band
The thick gold of this band supports a striking geometric setting. One large triangle is composed of three smaller delta symbols joined to each other at the tips, leaving a fourth perfect triangle in the center. Inscribed on the triangles, one to each, are the words "Courage," "Wisdom" and "Power." On the inside of the band, a flowing engraving reads "Triforce."

...and it was just gone. So I assisted to find out what the deal was, and I'm basically told by the host that they have no idea where it went, and suggested I check my logs. Fortunately I have Auto-Log enabled, so I checked through every log from January to now, and re-assisted.

And this is how it went. I tried to clean it up, mainly just deleting the "echo commands locally" crap:

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You say, "The last time it popped up on the search was on February 22 in an INVENTORY check, and it was shown on me."
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Valyrka nods.

You say, "And I have auto log turned on so everything since then is logged also."

You ask, "Can you set me up for a referral please?"
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Valyrka says, "Ok."
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Valyrka says, "Give me just a few moments."

You say, "Thanks."

You say, "Quick question though, is it ok for me to log out while you set it up? I need to get going to work."

Strange creaks and groans emanate from the building's structure as it sways from the quake.
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Valyrka says, "Acually, one moment."
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Valyrka says, "I am told by a GM."

You nod.
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Valyrka says, "That your band was plundered while hunting."
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Valyrka says, "The same day you last had it."

You ask, "Do they have the messaging handy for it so I can check that log for it?"

Valyrka says, "I am told that the messaging should be clear that the band was being taken from you."

You say, "Because I searched the entire log for the word BAND and nothing came up."

Valyrka asks, "I am not sure what to suggest there... search for the whole item? or the word delta since that is unusual?"
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You say, "I searched for every variation of it."

You say, "So apparently the messaging wasn't clear that it was being plundered because it's not showing up in the log."
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Valyrka says, "I asked if the item would show as being taken from you and I was told yes."

You say, "According to the log, that's not the case."

You say, "Give me am inute I'm going through the dead part line by line to see."
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Valyrka nods.

You say, "Nope. The instance in the log for that day that shows the band on me in an INVENTORY check was after I died and was raised."

You say, "And there were no other deaths."
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Valyrka says, "We are showing you as having two deaths that day."

You chuckle.

You say, "According to my logs, that's incorrect."
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Valyrka asks, "Does anyone else have access to your account?"

You say, "No."
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Valyrka says, "Our logs are showing you as having died twice."

You say, "Plus the item was just a generic store bought ring with no abilities or anything, which would make no sense for it to be plundered anyway."
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You sense the link between you and your horned frog begin to slowly weaken.
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* Essyr just bit the dust!
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Valyrka says, "I am sorry, I wish I could tell you more. The Gm looked at the logs and saw two deaths with the ring being looted."
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Spell Call Familiar (920) ended.
You sense the link between you and your horned frog weaken and vanish.

You chuckle.

You say, "I'd like a referral anyway please."

You say, "Because something's not adding up."

You say, "Logs don't alter themselves."
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Valyrka nods.
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Spell Stone Skin (520) ended.
The layer of stone surrounding you crumbles away.
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Valyrka asks, "Did you get logged off during one so maybe there is two logs for the same day?"

You say, "And the item has no real value, it's just a junk item. Not a magic item or considered a gem or anything like that, which are the only items that get looted off you in OTF."

You say, "No."
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Valyrka nods.

You say, "I can't help but wonder if this is just a method of removing an illegal, though harmless, alter from the game."
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Valyrka says, "Give me a second to set this up. I am sorry for all the confusion. I can only go on the information I have."

You nod to Valyrka.

You say, "That's fine."
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Valyrka asks, "Can you tell me the show on the item?"

You chuckle.

You say, "It will take am inute to find it but ok."

You say, "The thick gold of this band supports a striking geometric setting. One large triangle is composed of three smaller delta symbols joined to each other at the tips, leaving a fourth perfect triangle in the center. Inscribed on the triangles, one to each, are the words "Courage," "Wisdom" and "Power." On the inside of the band, a flowing engraving reads "Triforce."."

You cough.
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Valyrka nods.

You say, "The ring itself has no properties or abilities, so I'm not exactly sold on them saying it was stolen by a critter, especially after going through my logs."
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Emeradan says, "I can assure you that the logs I've looked at are accurate."
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* Robynn just bit the dust!
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[Topaz Lounge]
Modwir paneled walls have been covered with a series of historical tapestries. Beneath them rest a cluster of padded rosewood chairs arranged around a low table. You also see a pedestal with a silver sword on it, a mistwood bookcase, an arch, a heavy slate blackboard and a wastebasket.
Also here: GameMaster Emeradan, GameHost Valyrka
Obvious exits: none
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* Float just bit the dust!

You say, "That's funny then because i see nothing of the sort in my logs, and I went through each and every line of text from when I was dead."
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* Nyko just bit the dust!

You say, "If you guys just removed it from the game because it's an illegal alter, just say so and we'll be done with it."
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Emeradan says, "And I'm telling you that's not the case."

You ask, "Ok then. Can you give me the messaging that would have shown when the ring was plundered?"
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Emeradan says, "That would require delving into the actual critter plundering system, and I'm not authorized to do that."
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Spell Spirit Defense (103) ended. [-10DS]
The powerful look leaves you.

You say, "Because i did a search for "golden triple delta band", "band", "delta", etc pretty much every variation of it you can think of, and nothing came up except when it showed as being on my character in an inventory check."
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Emeradan says, "My first suggestion would be: change your password."

You chuckle at Emeradan.
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* Oravia just bit the dust!
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Emeradan says, "If your logs show only one death, and our system logs show two, then something's not adding up."

You say, "If someone's going to hack my account, I don't think they're gonna be worried about stealing a fluff item."
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Emeradan says, "Like I said, it was plundered."
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Emeradan says, "No member of staff stole your item."

You say, "Maybe, maybe not. I'll write to feedback about it tonight. We're just gonna run around in circles here right now."
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* Iluna just bit the dust!
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Emeradan says, "Feedback would be your recourse at this point, yes."
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Valyrka vanishes in a puff of smoke!

You say, "Alright then, that takes care of that. Thanks."
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Emeradan nods.
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Emeradan walks away.

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I have everything logged from the time I started playing again, I checked every single log, and there was never anything showing my Triforce ring being looted by a critter.

Plus I don't see why it would get looted in the first place, because as far as I know, they will only loot weapons and magical items. The ring was just some really generic item bought from one of the gem shops (Landing one I think but it probably doesn't matter) with no abilities or anything special or even remotely useful about it. As fluff as fluff can get.

I just find it kind of convenient how it just mysteriously disappeared like that, and they're blaming it on being plundered when I died. Then after I tell them that there's nothing of the sort happening in my log..."Oh it shows you died twice." which according to my log, I didn't.

So I'm gonna write to feedback and see what they can tell me, but this whole thing just reeks of bullshit.

Now I'm well aware that the alter itself is probably considered illegal, as it's a flat out Zelda reference, and if they wanted to just say "Give us that ring, it's illegal and we're going to change it." or something, then fine. I'm still not convinced that it wasn't just stealth ninja'd from me by a GM though, considering the inconsistencies between my log, the item being junk that wouldn't be looted by a critter in the first place, and the crap they're telling me. Plus the part of the log where the ring was shown on me took place after I died and was raised and back in town. It's just convenient how they're insisting there were two deaths that day, and apparently the auto-logger just happened to not pick up the other death where supposedly the ring was plundered off my corpse.

Something just doesn't add up.

Also if anyone really wants, I can send them the .txt file of the log in question, where the triforce ring was last seen, if they want to pick through it in case I missed something, though I have no idea how I could have missed it.

I wrote to feedback just now, so hopefully they can help. They're usually way better about issues than normal GMs and GHs are anyway.

Even if I end up not getting the item back due to its "illegal" description, that's fine. But I still want to know wtf really happened to it, because I'm having a hard time believing what Emeradan and Valyrka (who was probably just Emeradan's puppet in this instance) are telling me.

Has anyone ever had an item ninja'd from them by a GM without being told anything, or something similar?

EDIT: I uploaded the log file here for those that wish to pick through it:

http://files.filefront.com/Gemstone+Log+2+22+2008+1Txt/;10653303;/fileinfo.html

[diethx]

How could copying the text from where it was plundered from you from the log he read be considered, "delving into the actual critter plundering system"? Does that make any fucking sense?

Oh, and someone hacked you to take you out and get you killed in hopes that something would be stolen from your corpse by a mob? That's some pretty thick bullshit.

[budartagnan]

Can't stand Emeradan either. I met him at Simucon or Vegascon and he was kind of a prick in person too.

Too bad you lost it - I think it's funny that someone made that item at all.

[Bobmuhthol]

Yeah, Emeradan is kind of a fucking idiot for saying that he's looking directly at the log of you dying, but he can't give you the message because it would require an extra step.

[radamanthys]

"zomg, I have the information, and it is sooooo accurate."

"Can I see it?"

"No."

"Why?"

"I don't have it"

"But..."

[Methais]

Can't stand Emeradan either. I met him at Simucon or Vegascon and he was kind of a prick in person too.

Too bad you lost it - I think it's funny that someone made that item at all.

Sukara (I think. It was one of Kyalia's merchant characters anyway) made the item for me.

The best part was while we were discussing how to word it, apparently another GM clued her in on the Zelda reference. The rest went something like this:

Sukara whispers, "Someone just told me what this really is in reference to!"

Sukara bites you!

Sukara gives you your l33t Triforce ring.

<3 Kyalia. She was always one of my favorite GMs, even before she made that item.

[Mighty Nikkisaurus]

The item is a pretty obscure Zelda reference though. It could easily be explained away in the context of Gemstone, so I don't even see much justification in them taking it away for being OOC (especially not when Tsin has that schwartz ring).

In any case, the whole situation reeks of bullshit.


"zomg, I have the information, and it is sooooo accurate."

"Can I see it?"

"No."

Pretty much.

[Joe]

Um... maybe they're not logs like are captured on the player's end? I did a little coding for a friend's game and we sure as hell didn't log every single piece of text. Ah well... g'luck with the ring.

[Lyonis]

Also if anyone really wants, I can send them the .txt file of the log in question, where the triforce ring was last seen, if they want to pick through it in case I missed something, though I have no idea how I could have missed it.



Eh, I'm kinda bored. Feel free to PM me the log and I'll sift through it if you want.

[g++]

I would gladly pay an extra dollar a month premium if it went toward Emeraldan getting a six pack and a hooker.

[Joe]

I would gladly pay an extra dollar a month premium if it went toward Emeraldan getting a six pack and a hooker.

Who?

[Latrinsorm]

The "delta" reference is just as OOC as the triforce part, really. I guess we'll see what feedback has to say! :)

[Stanley Burrell]

I've had an item disappear before. I mean, completely disappear, like David Blaine type shit. No one could tell me anything. Nobody.

Also: There have been two times that I've used the STEAL verb and have ninja'd stuff that ended in a stealable prefix or have been able to steal boxfound jewelry that was rechargeable, but I gave it back.

Did you check a log from the night before in case you were still logged in from the previous day and the clock ticked 0:00 in the Central time zone?

[Sean of the Thread]

this game sucks... quit playing it.

[Methais]

I've had an item disappear before. I mean, completely disappear, like David Blaine type shit. No one could tell me anything. Nobody.

Also: There have been two times that I've used the STEAL verb and have ninja'd stuff that ended in a stealable prefix or have been able to steal boxfound jewelry that was rechargeable, but I gave it back.

Did you check a log from the night before in case you were still logged in from the previous day and the clock ticked 0:00 in the Central time zone?

That would be pointless, as the log in question shows the ring being worn by me in an INVENTORY check, so that kind of rules out losing it the night before in a previous log.

I uploaded the log here for those that wish to pick through it:

I uploaded the log file here for those that wish to pick through it:

http://files.filefront.com/Gemstone+Log+2+22+2008+1Txt/;10653303;/fileinfo.html

Thanks to all who offered. Hopefully you don't find something I may have overlooked. It's a pretty big log though, so you might want to just search for "golden triple delta band" and start scrolling down from there if you're planning to read it line by line.

[Methais]

The "delta" reference is just as OOC as the triforce part, really. I guess we'll see what feedback has to say! :)

Well like I said, if they want to confiscate or change the item because of its description, then fine I can live with that.

But if a GM just ninja'd it off of me without even saying a word, that's pretty fucked up.

[lavcat]

Hmm. I know if I get disconnected my log files won't write properly, so maybe it's possible that happened later that day, and you lost the second log file?

Either way, that's still messed up. Though to a MUCH lesser extent, I somewhat feel your pain. I had an item that just up and vanished. I checked all my logs, thinking I'd thrown it in storage somewhere, and it was put in a cloak with a bunch of other stuff, and then was never seen again. Everything else was still in the cloak in the same order (6 years later!) but not that one item. But I seriously doubt a GM took mine.

Anyway, good luck. I have nothing to do, so I might take a look at the log.

[B2]

You could take a look at a log from the next time you checked in after that posted log, and see if your death's sting/recent death/missing deeds is in line with a second, missing death.

[Nilandia]

I haven't looked at the log, but how do you log out of the game? Do you actually type out the quit command, or do you just close the window? Depending on how you leave the game, you could potentially ghost for a time, which would leave you vulnerable.

Gretchen

[Some Rogue]

Yeah, it looks like at the end you disconnect. What happened in the next log?

[TheEschaton]

You don't die in that log at all.

Do you have some other log with you dying in it?

I know that even with auto-log on, Wizard has trouble creating multiple logs for the same day.

-TheE-

[Liberi Fatali]

I've had two seperate incidents where a GM has stolen an item from me without mention or messaging.

Firstly, however, did you search your logs for the correct Ithzir looting messaging?

An Ithzir seer rifles through your gear! Somebody call a constable!
The Ithzir seer peers inside your hooded cloak for a moment before snatching out a blue crystal! After running a hand over the crystal for a moment to polish it, the seer drops it into her sack.

If nothing else, search for, "Somebody call a constable!"

I also autolog every time I log in. I've autologged since I rolled JD up in 1997 -- it literally takes me more than five minutes just to open my Gemstone IV --> Logs folder.

So, the first time an item of mine just randomly disappeared was in 2002. I had just cold-cocked the fuck out of Celtic, a well-known PC of a GM. In fact, the log is on the PC here somewhere if you search for it. About three hours later I went to rest at a table in the Elven Nations. When I came back (it was about 2 hours), my 10x snakeskin shield was gone out of my hand (but my longsword wasn't).

I immediately checked to see if I had slung it over my shoulder or accidentally put it away. I assited and got a referral, and the GM told me I was **ITCHY CURSED** at the **TABLE** and had **DROPPED IT**. I asked where the hell it was, then, and they said that the **JANITOR** had got it. So then I asked HOW I got itchy cursed -- the Rift I could see. Maybe a doomstone, or something. In EN? There's nothing that itchy curses! Not only that, but my LONGSWORD was still in my hand?! Why didn't I drop that?!

I wrote to feedback accusing Celtic of stealing my item because I had killed him. They never replied.

The next instance is pretty well known. I'll summarize it, however. I found a 7x very heavily crit weighted self-mana e-wave khopesh during an invasion in the EN. It was late at night and I didn't know who the owner was, so I kept it and logged off. The next morning I logged on to find ANOTHER invasion. Someone on the Voln net said there was an unkillable creature, so I came to come kill it. Mysteriously, it had the **VERY SAME** khopesh! The GMs had duplicated the weapon for the player that lost it! What they didn't bank on was me finding it -- not only did I kill this creature, I also got the duped Khopesh.

I now had **TWO** 7x VHC self-mana e-wave khopeshes. I returned one to the original owner, who was oblivious (apparently) that I had two of them.

Well, a huge ice-storm hit Elkhart, IN three days later. I was out of school for 7 days, and I didn't have power for six days. When I logged back on, the khopesh was gone. I reported and asked what happened to it, and GM-Uliq replied that "He had to take it off my person and delete it".

Furious, I e-mailed feedback. They agreed with me that it was wrong to dupe the weapon, and wrong to steal it from me. GM-Uliq then had to pull me up into the lounge and was FORCED by feedback to give me the weapon back AND get a free alteration. I altered it into a falchion, and the one that's floating around the market these days is the one I made.

So, feedback CAN come through. I netted a weapon worth over 55 million silvers for FREE, and I got to alter it!

[g++]

You don't die in that log at all.

Do you have some other log with you dying in it?

I know that even with auto-log on, Wizard has trouble creating multiple logs for the same day.

-TheE-

Actually he does, he immolates himself, then gets raped, then a scout rifles him once and someone shows up to save him. Looks like the scout took coins though, so either the messanging is extremely buggy or he didnt lose it in that log.

[Ilvane]

Yeah, all I saw was:

An Ithzir scout rifles through your gear! Somebody call a constable!

An Ithzir scout rifles through your pockets, scooping up some coins!

I don't know if it could have got it during that..but then that doesnt' seem right that it would take a ring.

I would say feedback, doesn't make sense.

Angela

[Parkbandit]

Yeah, Emeradan is kind of a fucking idiot for saying that he's looking directly at the log of you dying, but he can't give you the message because it would require an extra step.


I was thinking the same thing...

Emeradan says, "I can assure you that the logs I've looked at are accurate."

You ask, "Ok then. Can you give me the messaging that would have shown when the ring was plundered?"

Emeradan says, "That would require delving into the actual critter plundering system, and I'm not authorized to do that."

:rofl:

So, he looked at the logs (which would of course show the messaging) and he claims they are accurate.. but when pressed, he can't come up with the messaging without delving into the actual critter plundering system?

[Methais]

I figured out what happened. The game did indeed crash while I was in OTF, and apparently my ring was looted then.

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll154/spinarooni226/LogScreenshot.jpg

Just a screenshot of my log folder. All the 1KB files are when I was trying to log back into the game while it was still down. The highlighted 85KB file was when I got back into the game, and I was in the cottage garden in OTF, which is where you're taken when you decay.

Additionally, GM Naos reversed my decay and replaced my deed, so I see no reason for them to not return my ring too, as it was lost due to the game crashing.

Here's the link to that log:
http://files.filefront.com/Gemstone+Log+2+22+2008+21Txt/;10658052;/fileinfo.html

And here's the line to search for if you want to look through it:

SEND[Naos] I've cleared out your Death's Sting and replaced a deed. If you need anything else, just follow through with your ASSIST. :)

If they can track my deaths and being looted way back then, then I see no reason why they can't check (or why they weren't able to tell me during my assist) to see that the game crashed at that time.

So I'm about to write to feedback again and hopefully I'll find out in a day or two what they're going to do.

The reason I overlooked this when I first looked through my logs was because I was just doing a search for variations of "a golden triple delta band" to see if/when it was looted, for those wondering.

So anyway, that's that it seems. I'm going to write to feedback, but I'm about to log into the game and assist to see if I can just resolve it there too.

[g++]

I think the most important thing that we have learned is that every one should have a folder named "Samuel L Jackson" on their hard drive.

[Methais]

I think the most important thing that we have learned is that every one should have a folder named "Samuel L Jackson" on their hard drive.

The soundboards in those folders are my main line of defense against telemarketers. Everyone should remove themself from the Do Not Call list and download lots of soundboards. I look forward to telemarketers calling my house now.

[Methais]

Got my ring back!


*** Host Wyrom is here to answer your assist. ***

You turn to Wyrom and cheer!
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Wyrom says, "Hello Methais."

Wyrom tried to join your group, but your group status is closed. Type "GROUP OPEN" to let him join you.

You say, "Evening."

You reach out and hold Wyrom's hand.

<MOVING TO ANOTHER ROOM>

Wyrom asks, "How can I help you this evening?"
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Wyrom smiles.
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You feel more refreshed.
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* Tirayana just bit the dust!

You say, "This is most likely going to requre a GM referral, but I'll explain..."
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Wyrom says, "Sure."
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Wyrom nods.

You say, "I assisted last night about an item of mine that mysteriously disappeared, and was told that it was looted off my corpse."

You say, "This happened on February 22 according to my logs."

You say, "Anyway, I figured out exactly what happened."
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Wyrom nods.
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You feel more refreshed.

You say, "The game crashed, and as a result of that I died, my ring was looted, and then I decayed."

You say, "Upon logging back in, GM Naos replaced my deed and reversed my death and decay and removed my death's sting."

You say, "I just hadn't realized I was missing that item too."

You say, "I actually didn't evne notice it was gone until last night."
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Wyrom nods.

You say, "So I'm looking to get the item replaced, as it was lost due to a game crash."
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* Zarghov just bit the dust!

You say, "That pretty much sums it up I think."
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A breeze from outside blows loose bits of soot and ash into the room.
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You feel more refreshed.
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Wyrom asks, "Was the ring registered?"

You say, "I believe so, yes."
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Wyrom asks, "And what was the exact description on the ring?"
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You say, "The base description is."

You say, "A golden triple delta band."

You say, "And the show was..."
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You feel more refreshed.
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Wyrom says, "No need for the show."

You say, "Alright."
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Wyrom says, "Just the base works."
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Wyrom smiles.

You nod.
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* Sharnak just bit the dust!
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Wyrom asks, "And do you share your account with anyone, by any chance?"

You say, "Nope."
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Wyrom nods.
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You feel more refreshed.

You say, "According to the report I sent in at the time requesting my death and decay be reversed, the crash took place at approximately 3:30 am, CST I'm assuming."
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Wyrom says, "Ok, I just want to explain that if the item was lost to normal game mechanics, it isn't gauranteed to be replaced, however, if it was in fact the game that crashed, then you may just be in luck."
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Wyrom nods.

You nod.
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Wyrom says, "But I will go ahead and set a referral up for you."
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Wyrom says, "Just give me a moment to get that up and going."
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Wyrom smiles.

You say, "Hopefully the fact that GM Naos fixed my death and decay will be enough evidence that it was due to a crash, as it all happened in the same death."

You nod to Wyrom.
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You feel more refreshed.
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Wyrom asks, "Could you go ahead and tap a container for me?"

You tap an acid-stained alchemist's coat that you are wearing.

Wyrom says, "Thanks."
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Wyrom smiles.

You feel more refreshed.
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In the alchemist's coat you see a pure white runestaff, a tiny black casket, a Glaesen Star ticket, a scoop of leftover hash, a sturdy razern key and the following:
7 Magic: a ruby amulet, a blue crystal, a white crystal, a small statue (x4)
11 Scrolls: a faded palimpsest, a sheaf of golden paper, a glittering scroll, a golden scroll (x2), a light scroll, an obscure scroll (x2), an old scroll, a smeared scroll, a yellowed scroll
1 Wands: an oaken wand
5 Herbs: a white flask (x3), some acantha leaf (x2)

>l band
I could not find what you were referring to.

You nod.

You try hard not to grin.
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You no longer feel the effect of casting mana leech.

>look in my coat
In the alchemist's coat you see a golden triple delta band, a pure white runestaff, a tiny black casket, a Glaesen Star ticket, a scoop of leftover hash, a sturdy razern key and the following:
7 Magic: a ruby amulet, a blue crystal, a white crystal, a small statue (x4)
11 Scrolls: a faded palimpsest, a sheaf of golden paper, a glittering scroll, a golden scroll (x2), a light scroll, an obscure scroll (x2), an old scroll, a smeared scroll, a yellowed scroll
1 Wands: an oaken wand
5 Herbs: a white flask (x3), some acantha leaf (x2)
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Wyrom asks, "Go ahead and look inside that container?"

You need a free hand to pick that up.

You put an ale-stained scroll in your alchemist's coat.

You remove a golden triple delta band from in your alchemist's coat.

>l my band
The thick gold of this band supports a striking geometric setting. One large triangle is composed of three smaller delta symbols joined to each other at the tips, leaving a fourth perfect triangle in the negative space. Inscribed on the triangles, one to each, are the words "Courage," "Wisdom" and "Power." On the inside of the band, a flowing engraving reads "Triforce."
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You feel more refreshed.

You turn to Wyrom and cheer!

Wyrom asks, "Look familiar?"
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You exclaim, "Awesome, thanks!"

You dance around the room to music only you can hear.

You say, "Yep that's the one."

You turn to Wyrom and cheer!
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Wyrom turns to you and cheers!

You slide a golden triple delta band onto your finger.

You let out a cheer!
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Wyrom asks, "Alright then! Was there anything else I could help you with this evening?"

You say, "That should cover it, thanks a ton."

You shake hands with Wyrom.
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Wyrom says, "You're welcome. You have a good night, Methais."

You exclaim, "You too!"

You wave to Wyrom.
>l
[Topaz Lounge]
Modwir paneled walls have been covered with a series of historical tapestries. Beneath them rest a cluster of padded rosewood chairs arranged around a low table. You also see the fiery red Methais disk, a pedestal with a silver sword on it, a mistwood bookcase, an arch, a heavy slate blackboard and a wastebasket.
Also here: GameHost Wyrom
Obvious exits: none
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Wyrom waves to you.
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Wyrom exclaims, "Will do!"

[Adventurers Rest, Long Hall]
A long, crystalized seam in the wall glints beneath torches set in elaborate, wrought iron sconces. You also see a dreamstone arch with a Rone Academy placard on it and a moonstone arch with a large Moonstone Abbey placard on it.
Obvious exits: north, south
Wyrom followed.
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You feel more refreshed.
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Wyrom vanishes in a puff of smoke!
>stumble s

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[diethx]

Congrats.

[g++]

Congrats.

Funny that Emeradan wasnt authorized to even look at how the ring was stolen but that the gamehost was authorized to look through all your logs and then replace it on the spot.

[TheEschaton]

I'm sure it was a GM on the backside which replaced it.

[radamanthys]

Still odd that it was looted, when there's nothing special about it.

[g++]

I'm sure it was a GM on the backside which replaced it.

Also here: GameMaster Emeradan, GameHost Valyrka

Still...he could have helped Methais with his problem he was just an asshole about the whole thing instead. It really goes to show when you assist what happens is a complete crap shoot depending on who you get and Emeradan is basically snake eyes as far as getting any help.

[Joe]

Be effing hilarious if it was him who replaced it. Kinda scary, actually.

[Shari]

Haha, that's awesome you got it back.

Also, Emeradan is a tool. That is all.

[Bobmuhthol]

<<Also here: GameMaster Emeradan, GameHost Valyrka>>

l2read, Wyrom was the only person dealing with Methais when the ring was replaced.

[diethx]

Be effing hilarious if it was him who replaced it. Kinda scary, actually.

Not a chance. Emeradan would have to let Methais know how lucky he is that he was willing to replace it. As if that douche would do anything right without recognition.

[AestheticDeath]

<<Also here: GameMaster Emeradan, GameHost Valyrka>>

l2read, Wyrom was the only person dealing with Methais when the ring was replaced.

You should know better then that. GHs are always talking to some GM in the background.

[Bobmuhthol]

<<You should know better then that. GHs are always talking to some GM in the background.>>

That wasn't being questioned. But it definitely was not GM Emeradan in the room, since GM Emeradan was not in the room at the time.

[AestheticDeath]

So what you are saying a GM has to be in the room to replace an item? I doubt it.

[diethx]

ffs, he was just saying that the dude was reading the wrong log. Hence the l2read.

[Bobmuhthol]

Seriously, this isn't at all a hard concept. Why are you trying to analyze my posts? Read them at face value.

[Methais]

Still odd that it was looted, when there's nothing special about it.

That's what I've been wondering. If I remember right, the base description before I got it altered was "a band" that I bought from one of the gemshop vendors. Either in the Landing or Northern Caravansary I think.

[TheEschaton]

Well, gemshop stuff is fair game, innit? They're almost like gems.

[Joe]

<<Also here: GameMaster Emeradan, GameHost Valyrka>>

l2read, Wyrom was the only person dealing with Methais when the ring was replaced.

Directly, sure. Hosts can't make items, though.

[Bobmuhthol]

You're all fucking retarded. Fuck this shit.

Edit: Miraculously, diethx is the only person who isn't a complete fucking idiot right now, and that's ridiculous.

[diethx]

Disagreeing with you doesn't make someone an idiot :D

However yeah, I don't get what's so hard to grasp about this.

[Methais]

Quick question....if I curse this item, it can't be looted off me right?

[The Ponzzz]

It can still be looted when cursed. Tested this in Platinum with droppage as well, you still drop it.

Also, they loot anything that is classified as jewelry, magic item, gems and coins. I think they can get more stuff, but "a band" from the gemshop can be looted.

[Methais]

Gay. Container inside a container still works for loot prevention right?

[The Ponzzz]

I haven't tried that. I'll ask around.

[AestheticDeath]

It's called following a conversation.
I was arguing against Wyrom being the only one dealing with the situation.
I said GMs are in the background. Not that Emeradan was in the room.

Post 41 was just me inferring something incorrectly. whoops

[Bobmuhthol]

<<I was arguing against Wyrom being the only one dealing with the situation.>>

It's a good thing I never made that claim.


Wyrom was the only person dealing with Methais when the ring was replaced.

[AestheticDeath]

You were dropped on your head too many times.

Wyrom could not have been the only one. He cannot replace items. He was the only one visible in the room with Methais when it was replaced. Two different things.

[Bobmuhthol]

WYROM WAS THE ONLY PERSON DEALING WITH METHAIS WHEN THE RING WAS REPLACED. HOLY SHIT.

Here's what you did:

I said A.
You said I said B, and then you claimed C, citing that C and B are different.
Then you said that C is correct, but C is actually a reworded version of A. Effectively, you said exactly what I said, but then called me wrong because you can't fucking read.

So fucking dense.

[diethx]

Jesus this is becoming a bigger trainwreck than Miss Ismurii.

AD, all he was saying was that the dude copied from the wrong log. Wyrom was the only one in the room with Methais. Not Emeradan or Valyrka. That's why he quoted what he quoted. He never said a GM wasn't behind the scenes handling the replacement. He was just calling the dude a dumbshit for reading and quoting from the wrong log.

[Miss Ismurii]

Jesus this is becoming a bigger trainwreck than Miss Ismurii.

It certainly is!

[Krendeli]

I can't believe all the hub bub about a gay-ass looking ring that can be easily replaced.

[radamanthys]

whenever I hear the term "Gay-ass", I can't help but to think of goatse.

The term "gay-ass looking ring" was just too much.

[Stanley Burrell]

Quick question....if I curse this item, it can't be looted off me right?

NONE CAN CURSE THE ALIGNED TRIFORCES.

That's like trying to trip a moving train.

[Methais]

whenever I hear the term "Gay-ass", I can't help but to think of goatse.

The term "gay-ass looking ring" was just too much.

But Goatse is married...to a woman I assume. Quite possibly to Goatse girl.


It certainly is!

Unable to resist vying for attention at every opportunity=True

[Methais]

I can't believe all the hub bub about a gay-ass looking ring that can be easily replaced.

I think that's what all the hub hub is about...how easily it probably could have been replaced on the first assist, instead of what happened in the log I first posted.

Since Emeradan had the log in front of him about how the ring was plundered from my corpse (since he said "I assure you the logs I'm reading are accurate."), I can't help but wonder how far off the log of the game crash (which is how I lost the ring to begin with) and Naos fixing my death from it were, and if he was able to see that too and just blew it off.

Given the circumstances of the first log (mainly them insisting that I died and got looted and me insisting that it was nowhere in my logs and that something wasn't adding up) I assume he could have easily dug around a little bit and seen the game crash, see Naos rezzing me, put 2+2 together, etc., instead of "You died and got looted. Change your password and L2P."

It took Wyrom roughly 5 minutes to (I'm assuming) get on the GM channel, have someone look into it, see what happened and replace the item.

Would be ironic if Emeradan was the one that replaced the ring (and on the super slim off chance it was, then I apologize for this post), yeah, but like someone else said, he's not really the type to do something like that without making sure you know it was him that did it. My first reaction when he showed up in the first assist was "Ugh".

I'm pretty sure it wasn't though, because when I first logged in, there were no hosts on duty so I sent in a report explaining the deal and asking if someone could pull me up so I could explain in detail what happened. I got no response, but if Emeradan were on, he probably would have made his presence known, most likely by either telling me to stfu and use ASSIST, bitch at me for using REPORT and inform me how lucky I am he doesn't warn me for it, etc.

Course I may be way off, but that tends to be the kind of reactions you get when dealing with him half the time. I can't help but be curious how things would have gone if he showed up for the assist with Wyrom.

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[g++]

You are rtard make no sense



I think that's what all the hub hub is about...how easily it probably could have been replaced on the first assist, instead of what happened in the log I first posted.

Since Emeradan had the log in front of him about how the ring was plundered from my corpse (since he said "I assure you the logs I'm reading are accurate."), I can't help but wonder how far off the log of the game crash (which is how I lost the ring to begin with) and Naos fixing my death from it were, and if he was able to see that too and just blew it off.

Yah I wasnt implying Emeradan was present in the second log. I stated its pretty fucked up Emeradan didnt help him and then a gamehost did. The E said Im sure it was GM in the background that replaced it I was simplying pointing out Emeradan is a GM and could have chosen to help Methais the first time instead of telling him to change his password and being a pissy little bitch. Anyway...who the fuck cares?

[Methais]

whenever I hear the term "Gay-ass", I can't help but to think of goatse.

The term "gay-ass looking ring" was just too much.

I just had a realization pertaining to Goatse and the Triforce:

If goatse's ass was triangular, this would be a perfect fit:

http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/5259/triforce7be.jpg

Quick, someone photoshop this onto Mr. Goatse. Or at least photoshop goatse's hands onto the triforce...

[AestheticDeath]

ya know, for someone who uses pics as much as you do, you'd think you would learn how to use photoshop or something

[Miss Ismurii]

Unable to resist vying for attention at every opportunity=True

Yes, but as you can see it was given to me, like you just have yourself.

[Methais]

ya know, for someone who uses pics as much as you do, you'd think you would learn how to use photoshop or something

Ya know, for someone who posts as much as you do, you'd think you would learn how to use grammar or something.

Spending 10 seconds on google is much more efficient than spending hours upon hours learning to use a program I don't have that costs hundreds of dollars for the sole purpose of trolling a message board.

Here let me give you an example:


Yes, but as you can see it was given to me, like you just have yourself.

After 10 seconds on google...

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j164/nancitaf/AttentionWhore.jpg

This is serious business.

[Mighty Nikkisaurus]

People actually pay for photoshop?!

[Ilvane]

I'm just glad you got your ring back, Methais.

Congrats.

Angela

[Methais]

Thanks.

[radamanthys]

http://bingweb.binghamton.edu/%7Ebkarker1/peacegoatse.JPG


Ruined.

[Methais]

lmao win

[diethx]

http://bingweb.binghamton.edu/%7Ebkarker1/peacegoatse.JPG


Ruined.

Double win.

And I actually asked J to purchase the new version of Photoshop for me when he bought my computer at Christmas. It only cost like 65 bucks.

[The Ponzzz]

If you use the search function, I asked for one not too long ago and Alex hooked a brother up with a great torrent link. Works great.

The thread was like PS or PSP.

[Sypher]

I've actually had stuff taken before off my character. I just can't stand it because they should leave a note or something. Even though all items are Simu property the GMs doing the taking are volunteers and not onsite, there really is no recourse if a GM decides to screw with you, what are they going to do? Fire a person that works for free anyways?

I wonder if Tsin ever had items taken away from him without his knowledge or consent?

[radamanthys]

He's certainly had items hit hard by the nerf-bat.

[Joe]

Methais,

Did you write to Feedback yet?

[Miscast]

rofl @ Ismurii's new avatar

[Miss Ismurii]

Psh, that's not funny, that's terrible. Now I have to change it.

[radamanthys]

Something must be done about this.

[Stanley Burrell]

I wonder if Tsin ever had items taken away from him without his knowledge or consent?

Black helicopters and interdimensional aliens mandate any knowledge of such as an NDA breach.

[Methais]

Methais,

Did you write to Feedback yet?

Yeah. Then I wrote to them again and told them the issue's been resolved so I'm assuming I won't be hearing back from them now.

[Sablemane]

Great... just lost a weapon worth 10 mil or so and now I'm concerned it's been "confiscated" somehow too. Currently in the referral queue but ya never know...


But just in case, if ya seen it,

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[Joe]

Yeah. Then I wrote to them again and told them the issue's been resolved so I'm assuming I won't be hearing back from them now.

Well crap... I wanted to see what they'd say. I hate being curious... :(