Hunting Help!

[GSIVPlayer]

Looking for a good pure spell casting training path for my 32 trained human empath... currently he :


Armor Use..........................| 50 10
Two-Handed Weapons.................| 126 33
Physical Fitness...................| 105 25
Arcane Symbols.....................| 122 31
Magic Item Use.....................| 122 31
Spell Aiming.......................| 90 20
Harness Power......................| 150 50
Spirit Mana Control................| 122 31
Mental Lore - Manipulation.........| 90 20
Survival...........................| 122 31
Perception.........................| 122 31
Climbing...........................| 122 31
Swimming...........................| 122 31
First Aid..........................| 160 60

Spell Lists
Major Spirit.......................| 15

Spell Lists
Minor Spirit.......................| 25

Spell Lists
Empath.............................| 30
(Use SKILLS BASE to display unmodified ranks and goals)


Lookin to switch over to hunting wit a group, and just siting back and waggling every now and then.. need to know which lores to go for, if i should change my spells around to fog? or whatever suggestions you could tell me.. never played an empath before but will be very fun i think. And a great addition to my group. Thanks :medieval:

[GSIVPlayer]

also going to mana share with elemental, so i was going to drop spirit mana control totally and pick up elemental.. thoughts ? comments?

[Stunseed]

Don't buy characters you can't hunt?

Sorry. :(

[GSIVPlayer]

what a dick. :wtf:


i'm just looking for some suggestions, i'm sure he can hunt alone, but i want him to be more fitting to the circumstances he will be in for awhile. any suggestions are welcome, and appreciated.

[Renian]

Ditch spell aiming.

If you don't ditch Two Handed Weapons, and plan to use that as your primary method of killing, drop HP down to 1x. Especially if you are CoL.

Pump the points you got from that into empath spells and Mental Lore - Manipulation so you can shatter more effectively if you aren't going to swing primarily. Otherwise, put some in those, but make sure you get 4 more ranks of major spirit for Heroism.

[GSIVPlayer]

sounds good droping all the spell aiming, inless it does help any empath spell? i am going to drop two handers, plan to go PURE caster, sit behind 102 and everything.. :thanx:

more suggestions? :help:

[Some Rogue]

Uh....don't drop spell aiming unless you want to cut the number of hunting spells you can use in half. It also allows you to use wands if you run out of mana.

This is my empath at 28. I'm light in the empath circle, but he hunts effectively.

(at level 28), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Armor Use..........................| 40 8
Physical Fitness...................| 120 30
Arcane Symbols.....................| 120 30
Magic Item Use.....................| 160 60
Spell Aiming.......................| 160 60
Harness Power......................| 160 60
Mental Mana Control................| 120 30
Spirit Mana Control................| 120 30
Spiritual Lore - Summoning.........| 58 12
Mental Lore - Manipulation.........| 90 20
Perception.........................| 66 14
Climbing...........................| 50 10
Swimming...........................| 25 5
First Aid..........................| 120 30

Spell Lists
Major Spirit.......................| 14
Spell Lists
Minor Spirit.......................| 20
Spell Lists
Empath.............................| 28

[Renian]

Uh....don't drop spell aiming unless you want to cut the number of hunting spells you can use in half.


Well there's the problem. Do you want to be a CS empath, a bolting empath, or both?

[GSIVPlayer]

uhm, whichever is more cost effective.. he gunna be team hunting with a rogue and wizard, so he's not going to be doing most the killing, although since we have the group we uphunt constantly, so it would be nice if he could hit them without a problem..

[Renian]

If you want to hit them "without a problem", max spell aiming and bolt.

If you want to hit them without them being able to hit back, ditch spell aiming and pump it into empath ranks.

[Some Rogue]

And why can't a pure spellcaster do both?

[iJin]

Zuie, train 48

Armor Use..........................| 70 15
Shield Use.........................| 150 50
Brawling...........................| 148 48
Physical Fitness...................| 147 47
Arcane Symbols.....................| 90 20
Magic Item Use.....................| 105 25
Harness Power......................| 152 52
Mental Mana Control................| 156 56
Spirit Mana Control................| 122 31
Mental Lore - Manipulation.........| 50 10
Perception.........................| 50 10
Climbing...........................| 90 20
Swimming...........................| 90 20

Spell Lists
Major Spirit.......................| 25

Spell Lists
Minor Spirit.......................| 30

Spell Lists
Empath.............................| 72

For armor keep it at 8, for doubles. I have 15 cause I use leather breastplate. Up mental sharing for more damage with 1106.

[iJin]

And why can't a pure spellcaster do both?

Cause, you waste points that can go into CS and making 1106 way better. And there is usually a shortage of points.

[stickyfingers]

Is training too much in manipulation not worth it? From looking at some other empaths, I guess I see them only with a few ranks in it, I may just have to stop training in it on mine. Also how much a difference in DS is shield/brawl to using a runestaff training almost purely in magic areas ?

[Xiandrena]

I'm a pure caster and I got balls-to-the-wall spell aiming and I would highly recommend it. If I had dropped spell aiming completely I'd probably still be hunting on plane three of the rift instead of five. For a very very long time (since I started hunting greater ice giants in Icemule) I trained fully in spell aiming and fire spirit was one of my most used spells. Of course I overtrain in empath ranks too.

You can go any way you want but I've never come back from a hunt without being fried. When the mana is gone (use boneshatter the most) I pull out a gold, blue or crystal wand and fry things...

Like I tell anyone who wants advice you gotta think what you'll be hunting more (undead or living) and what spells you LIKE to use while hunting. Advice is all well and good but if you take what someone says and do it because it sounds good...are you really having fun?

If you're going mostly living, train in spell aiming but maybe 1x and go more for empath ranks so that you'll boneshatter better..

If you're going for mostly dead you can still train in empath ranks (wither is awesome) but there isn't much undead that is immune to a nice fireball (or acid ball as the case may be)

So there is my two cents. Enjoy. <3


(Edit: I didn't even touch lores till I got around 50ish because manipulation really only helps make wither or boneshatter crit more now. If you want to boneshatter HARDER, you'll need ranks in Mental and Spirit mana control. Spirit lore summoning is the only lore I trained in before I hit 50.)

[Flurbins]

No trouble uphunting at all.
posted a few average shots.
Going for 40 ranks of the 1110 extra cycle lore and 1x summon lore by cap, and that's it for lores.


(at level 32), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Armor Use..........................| 40 8
Physical Fitness...................| 102 24
Spell Aiming.......................| 166 66
Harness Power......................| 166 66
Mental Mana Control................| 166 66
Perception.........................| 120 30
Climbing...........................| 99 23
Swimming...........................| 50 10
First Aid..........................| 166 66

Spell Lists
Major Spirit.......................| 20

Spell Lists
Minor Spirit.......................| 20

Spell Lists
Empath.............................| 39
Training Points: 22 Phy 0 Mnt (690 Phy converted to Mnt)


>inca 1106
You focus your thoughts while chanting the mystical phrase for Bone Shatter...
Your spell is ready.
You gesture at a wood sprite.
You concentrate intently on a wood sprite, and a pulse of pearlescent energy ripples toward him!
CS: +169 - TD: +131 + CvA: +25 + d100: +57 == +120
Warding failed!
The wood sprite shudders with moderate convulsions as pearlescent ripples envelop his body.
The wood sprite is battered for 35 points of damage!
... 15 points of damage!
Nice blow to left hand!
... 10 points of damage!
Light blow to left leg.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.


>stance off
You focus your thoughts while chanting the mystical phrase for Bone Shatter...
Your spell is ready.
>put my runestaff in my pack
>channel at sprite
You are now in an offensive stance.
>
You put a glittering golden runestaff with tawny lion skin wound about its shaft in your boarhide pack.
>
You channel at a wood sprite.
You concentrate intently on a wood sprite, and a pulse of pearlescent energy ripples toward him!
CS: +169 - TD: +131 + CvA: +25 + d100: +48 == +111
Warding failed!
The wood sprite shudders with sporadic convulsions as pearlescent ripples envelop his body.
The wood sprite is smashed for 50 points of damage!
... 20 points of damage!
Good blow to right leg!
The wood sprite is stunned!
... 20 points of damage!
Good blow to right hand!
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
Roundtime: 3 sec.