My Ban Log

[Drew2]

By request.

Note that this all happened about 20-30 minutes after I logged in. I had started the script when I logged in and this was the FIRST time it had gone off.

You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Giltia echo in your mind:
"i already picked skin cancer over the other kinds"
Svocas just went southwest.

>Ranil asks, "Some healing, please?"

>Loading healdown.cmd into memory.
Loading langmon.cmd into memory.
Loading expmonitor.cmd into memory.
PUT: app Ranil
Language monitor running.
Healing experience monitor running.
PUT: trans Ranil left leg
PUT: trans Ranil chest
You take a quick appraisal of Ranil and find that he has minor bruises about the head, minor bruises on his neck, some minor cuts and bruises on his left arm, a fractured and bleeding left leg, and deep lacerations across his chest.
He is bleeding badly from the chest and from the left leg.
>This healing will take 34 mana to heal, for 350 exp. (10.29 exp/mana)

PUT: trans Ranil head
You meditate over Ranil.
Ranil's left leg damage is transferred to you.

>PUT: trans Ranil neck
You meditate over Ranil.
Ranil's chest damage is transferred to you.

Ranil rummages around in his pockets.

>PUT: trans Ranil left arm
You meditate over Ranil.
Ranil's head damage is transferred to you.

>PUT: sign staunching
You meditate over Ranil.
Ranil's neck damage is transferred to you.

>You meditate over Ranil.
Ranil's left arm damage is transferred to you.
>Sign of Staunching (Staunching) starts for 29m 20s.

PUT: trans Ranil
Your veins throb and your blood sings.
>You meditate over Ranil.
You take all of Ranil's blood loss.

>PUT: prep 1105

>You concentrate while murmuring the simple, mystical chant for Organ Repair...
PUT: cure chest
Your spell is ready.

>You concentrate.
Your chest feels better.
Cast Roundtime 3 seconds.
(Forcing stance down to guarded)
>Geor just went northwest.
>
>Gerkane sighs.

>You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Giltia echo in your mind:
"I'm hoping God doesn't fuck me on that"
Ranil just gave you 725 coins which you quickly pocket.

PUT: prep 1102

>You concentrate while murmuring the simple, mystical chant for Limb Repair...
PUT: cure left leg
Your spell is ready.
>You concentrate.
Your left leg feels better.
Cast Roundtime 3 seconds.
>Ranil bows to you.

>PUT: prep 1101
Ranil just went northwest.

>You focus your thoughts while chanting the mystical phrase for Heal...
PUT: cure
Your spell is ready.
>You concentrate.
You feel a lot better.
Cast Roundtime 3 seconds.
>Tayre just appeared.
You feel yourself being pulled away...
[Consultation Lounge]
The cozy surroundings of this simple conference room provide a much-welcomed respite from the chaos just outside its walls. You notice several plush chairs arranged casually around the room in a comfortable grouping.
Obvious exits: none
>******
****** Healing complete!
******

You give your eyebrow a little workout.

.stopall

[Consultation Lounge]
The cozy surroundings of this simple conference room provide a much-welcomed respite from the chaos just outside its walls. You notice several plush chairs arranged casually around the room in a comfortable grouping.
Obvious exits: none


SEND[Lothwyn] Be with you in a moment.


You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-You echo in your mind:
"I just got pulled "
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-You echo in your mind:
"And I think I'm getting locked out"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Ylandra echo in your mind:
"for what now?"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Brade echo in your mind:
"now what?"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Jaidea echo in your mind:
"for what?"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Zuie echo in your mind:
"omg"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-You echo in your mind:
"because Lothwyn is a jackass"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Desorceri echo in your mind:
"maybe you don't look old enough to play GS"

You hear the faint thoughts of [Private]-Zuie echo in your mind:
"open psinet locatee"
You feel at full magical power again.
>You hear the faint thoughts of [Ohno]-Giltia echo in your mind:
"what happened?"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Zuie echo in your mind:
"he was healling"
* Nordred joins the adventure.
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Zuie echo in your mind:
"and poofed"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-You echo in your mind:
"I haven't healed in like 20 minutes"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Adamina echo in your mind:
"wtf"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-You echo in your mind:
"And someone set off my script"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Adamina echo in your mind:
"why"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-You echo in your mind:
"And it ran on one person"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-You echo in your mind:
"And I got pulled"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Adamina echo in your mind:
"where you afk?"
>You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-You echo in your mind:
"no"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Adamina echo in your mind:
"were*"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-You echo in your mind:
"Obviously not"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-You echo in your mind:
"i'm right here"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Adamina echo in your mind:
"lol"
>You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Giltia echo in your mind:
"then what does it matter if you run a script"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Adamina echo in your mind:
"so why did you get pulled, i don't get it"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Brade echo in your mind:
"Who set your script off?"
>You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-You echo in your mind:
"I have no idea"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Adamina echo in your mind:
"...."
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-You echo in your mind:
"Ran"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-You echo in your mind:
"Ranil"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-You echo in your mind:
"No one has reported about me in a long time that I know of"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Adamina echo in your mind:
"i don't get what you did wrong"
>You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-You echo in your mind:
"It may be about my assist that's been in for 2 months"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Adamina echo in your mind:
"lol"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Zuie echo in your mind:
"rofl"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Desorceri echo in your mind:
"no it can't be that - cuz Lothwyn is a jackass :)"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-You echo in your mind:
"But I doubt it"
>You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-You echo in your mind:
"If it's Lothwyn he's probably locking me out"
>You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Zuie echo in your mind:
":("
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Desorceri echo in your mind:
"you must have done something to piss him off to bother with you"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Adamina echo in your mind:
"what for"
>You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-You echo in your mind:
"I haven't done anything in days"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Adamina echo in your mind:
"YOU DIDN"T DO ANYTHING"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Zuie echo in your mind:
"tell him you'll give head"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Desorceri echo in your mind:
"days lol"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Ylandra echo in your mind:
"^^^"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Adamina echo in your mind:
"LOL"


A faint sound of crackling fire fills the air as a fiery golden phoenix soars in. Just as it touches the ground, a pillar of flames engulfs it! While the inferno slowly extinguishes, you notice Lothwyn standing before you.
>Lothwyn says, "Good afternoon."

You say, "Hi."

You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Ylandra echo in your mind:
"Adamina"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Adamina echo in your mind:
"sup"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-You echo in your mind:
"He's here"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-You echo in your mind:
"We'll see"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Ylandra echo in your mind:
"c'mere please?"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Zimzum echo in your mind:
"my rape charges finally went through"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Adamina echo in your mind:
"sec.."
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Adamina echo in your mind:
"LOLL ZIM"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Brade echo in your mind:
"report *crying* Leave Tayre alone!!!!!"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Ylandra echo in your mind:
"I blew off Fenrift's hands"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Desorceri echo in your mind:
"uhh wha?"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Pritchard echo in your mind:
"lol brade"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Adamina echo in your mind:
"what what"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Giltia echo in your mind:
"ROFL brade!"
* Iimaru joins the adventure.
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Zuie echo in your mind:
"rofl"
You say, "So."

>You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Vandele echo in your mind:
"in the butt?"
Lothwyn smirks.

Lothwyn says, "Yeah, no."

You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Giltia echo in your mind:
"in the butt what?"
Lothwyn says, "Unfortunately, it's time we call it quits for a vacation. Between the auto healing which you're still doing--and I told you to knock it off--the disruptive behavior, and the PvPing, the line is crossed."

You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Desorceri echo in your mind:
"what's what? In tha butt"
(I repeat what he says on OOC)

You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Zuie echo in your mind:
".................."
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Zuie echo in your mind:
"THAT BITCH"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Desorceri echo in your mind:
"That's what! In the butt!"
You say, "Before I even start, I already know nothing I say will change your mind."

You say, "However."

You say, "I find it very hard to believe I'm being disruptive with the healing anymore."

You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Adamina echo in your mind:
"WTF"
You say, "I turn it off about every other person."

You say, "I'm responsive."
.
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Brade echo in your mind:
"REFERRAL, BITCH!!!"
>Lothwyn says, "You may be responsive, but it's considered disruptive behavior regardless."

You say, "And in fact I've been on other characters for weeks."

You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Adamina echo in your mind:
"you have got to be kidding me"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Brade echo in your mind:
"what pvp?"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Zuie echo in your mind:
"dude"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Desorceri echo in your mind:
"so your heal script sucks and heals anyone preventing other empaths from helping?"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Ylandra echo in your mind:
"He and Jamus killed each other in town once."
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Zuie echo in your mind:
"im ready to report"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Ylandra echo in your mind:
"that PvP"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Pritchard echo in your mind:
"Zuie, you don't love us anymore. :( Vent misses you."
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Adamina echo in your mind:
"argue it"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Brade echo in your mind:
"lol if they are gonna use that as a reason, that's fucking weak"
Lothwyn says, "I told you specifically to cut off the auto healing in plain words, and you complied for a couple days."

You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Sorvael echo in your mind:
"so in other words...you were sitting at the keyboard scripting (perfectly within policy) so he pulled you up and locked you out? What the hell?"
Lothwyn says, "And then you reverted."
=
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Adamina echo in your mind:
"call Brian"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Zuie echo in your mind:
"report GET THAT SAND OUT OF YOUR VAGINA"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Zuie echo in your mind:
"yeah call brian!"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Adamina echo in your mind:
"LOL"
You say, "Actually, I haven't onced stopped using it."

You say, "I just used it less frequently."
>You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Vandele echo in your mind:
"roleplay nominate Tayre, he is a good empath."
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Desorceri echo in your mind:
"scripting is ok but if it prevents other empaths from a fair chance - that's wrong"
You say, "A lot less."
>You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Adamina echo in your mind:
"LOL VANDELE"
Lothwyn says, "Then you started to gravitate towards other disruptive behavior."

>You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Timjirdos echo in your mind:
"look"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Zuie echo in your mind:
"rofl"
Lothwyn says, "Character names, starting fights, and eventually unconsented PvP."

You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Ylandra echo in your mind:
"why don't my silver to gold gems work on silver wands any more?"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Zuie echo in your mind:
"dude"
Lothwyn says, "Too much GM time is being spent monitoring you and the aftermath of your actions, and handling all the complaints."

>Lothwyn says, "Enough is past enough."

>You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Zuie echo in your mind:
"drew, what is going on"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Zuie echo in your mind:
"!!!!!!"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-You echo in your mind:
"I'm being locked out"
>You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Adamina echo in your mind:
"OMG"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Ylandra echo in your mind:
"I'm sorry to hear it"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Adamina echo in your mind:
"(OOC) Desorceri's player whispers, "I'm listening like a hellen keller!""
You say, "Unfortunately, you're the boss, so really I have nothing left to say, do I."

You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Adamina echo in your mind:
"ROFL DESORCI"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Giltia echo in your mind:
"thats fucking retarded"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Desorceri echo in your mind:
"lol"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Zuie echo in your mind:
"You focus your mind in an attempt to draw the memory of Lothwyn through the PsiNet"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Zuie echo in your mind:
"!!!"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Adamina echo in your mind:
"Tayre"
Lothwyn says, "No, I'm afraid not."

You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Adamina echo in your mind:
"you didn't do anything today"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Kynthelig echo in your mind:
"Is there a site or script around that gives the averages out for gems? I just want to start seperating them some"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Tiner echo in your mind:
"Tayre is locked out? wtf?"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Adamina echo in your mind:
"tell them it wasn;t a script"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Zuie echo in your mind:
"yeah"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Adamina echo in your mind:
"it was your superior healing skillz"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Desorceri echo in your mind:
"avg value of gems?"
Lothwyn says, "As of this time, your accounts will be on lockout for a 30-day period of time. If you have any questions or comments with regards to your access, please write to lockout@simutronics.com."

>You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Tiner echo in your mind:
"he was one of them empath that actually does some shit"
,30 day lockoutYou focus on transmitting your thought.
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-You echo in your mind:
"30 day lockout"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Zuie echo in your mind:
"!!!"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Adamina echo in your mind:
"WTF"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Zuie echo in your mind:
"LAME"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Adamina echo in your mind:
"NO WAY"
You ask, "Can you close them as well or will I have to go through billing for that?"
>
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Zuie echo in your mind:
"FUCKT HAT"
Lothwyn says, "You would need to go through billing."

You say, "Alright."

>You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Zuie echo in your mind:
"report Lothwyn gtfo pls"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Adamina echo in your mind:
"hey, 30 ranks for brig, right?"
You ask, "Can you do me a favor?"

>You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Renian echo in your mind:
"In other news, we fuck our paying, loyal customers in the ass and cater to whiny bitches that detrement the RP of the game."
You sling an old Selanthian wall shield off from over your shoulder.
>Lothwyn asks, "What's that?"

>You say, "Can you get this to xxxxx."

You say, "It is hers."

You say, "Or is that a no no."

You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Pritchard echo in your mind:
"LOL it's nice to see policy is the same across ALL simutronics products."
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Desorceri echo in your mind:
"god"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Brade echo in your mind:
"Time for more herb eating in tsc"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Desorceri echo in your mind:
"you all are so skewed"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Renian echo in your mind:
"om nom nom nom"
Lothwyn says, "I can return it."

>Lothwyn has accepted your offer and is now holding an old Selanthian wall shield.

You say, "Thank you."

You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Desorceri echo in your mind:
"it's quite clear to me why he's locking him out and I'm not surprised"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Kayliegh echo in your mind:
"Agreed."
You hear the faint thoughts of [Private]-Ylandra echo in your mind:
"what's your AIM?"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Zuie echo in your mind:
"[OOC]-Adamina: "HEY OLD MAN RIVER, ZIP IT OR I WILL BREAK YOUR HIP""
You hear the faint thoughts of [PrivateTo]-Ylandra echo in your mind:
"drew can not"
>You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Zuie echo in your mind:
"^^^"
>You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Brade echo in your mind:
"lol yeah that"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-(Notice) echo in your mind:
"Moderator Belnia has joined the channel."
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Natam echo in your mind:
"how is it clear?"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Juilene echo in your mind:
"Yeah, could have just not done the script healing again, and not get locked out. Kinda seems rational to me."
Lothwyn asks, "Anything else?"

You say, "No that will do it."

Lothwyn nods.

>Lothwyn says, "Have a good day."

You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Vandele echo in your mind:
"nothing wrong with running scripts if you are not AFK."
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Natam echo in your mind:
"people script ALL the time when they're on the keyboard"
You say, "Yeah."
>You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Desorceri echo in your mind:
"if you run a script (afk or not) that hinders another person's ability to gain exp, a fair chance at RP or healing... I'd say that's wrong. No one should be able to accidentally set off your healing script"
You feel yourself being pulled away...
[The Cell]
You are in a specially-created exitless room. This room was created because of your unacceptable activities in GemStone, which will no longer be tolerated. Please contact us at lockout@simutronics.com for further information, if you desire.
Obvious exits: none
>You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Adamina echo in your mind:
"[OOC]-Desorceri: "shit I'm typing like a hellen keller""
psinet optionsYou hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Adamina echo in your mind:
"(OOC) Desorceri's player whispers, "I'm listening like a hellen keller!""
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Zuie echo in your mind:
"lol"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Sorvael echo in your mind:
"what's wrong with script healing anyway as long as your in front of the screen paying attention?"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Adamina echo in your mind:
"LOL"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-You echo in your mind:
"psinet locate meee"
>You feel the mind of Zuie touch yours, calling the memory of your location as you last saw it. You offer no resistance.
You feel the mind of Timjirdos touch yours, calling the memory of your location as you last saw it. You offer no resistance.

You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Pritchard echo in your mind:
"Yes, sacrifice playability for menial labor. That makes perfect sense."
You feel the mind of Sorvael touch yours, calling the memory of your location as you last saw it. You offer no resistance.

>You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Juilene echo in your mind:
"Not at the level that Tayre script heals."
You feel the mind of Natam touch yours, calling the memory of your location as you last saw it. You offer no resistance.
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Brade echo in your mind:
"Then go hunt, you fucking lazy ass."
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Zuie echo in your mind:
":("
>You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Kayliegh echo in your mind:
"But when you are warned OVER and OVER again that you are disrupting others playing you are quite aware that you could get locked out. Point made. Case closed."
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Juilene echo in your mind:
"I have nothing against Tayre, but I also understand why he's locked out."
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Timjirdos echo in your mind:
"i have nothing against anyone. but i really don't give a fuck. sorry tayre."
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Zuie echo in your mind:
"hey"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Zuie echo in your mind:
"tim"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Zuie echo in your mind:
"gtfo"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Timjirdos echo in your mind:
"no"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Zuie echo in your mind:
"[OOC]-Giltia: "I'M GONNA SLAP YOU AROUND AND RIDE YOU LIKE A GOD DAMN PONY""
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Timjirdos echo in your mind:
"yeah, sure."
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Renian echo in your mind:
"The problem is the fact that Tayre was not only at the keyboard while scripting, but the empaths complaining about him never really interacted with him on a polite level to get him to stop, which is why he continued to do it. Further, the reason of PvP is out of line, as Jamus and Tayre initiated a CvC conflict which was disruptive to no one as they casted no non-direct damge spells."
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Zuie echo in your mind:
"rofl"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Sorvael echo in your mind:
"tayre can you post the log on players corner?"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-You echo in your mind:
"It's not an exciting log"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Zuie echo in your mind:
"i wanna read it anyways"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Juilene echo in your mind:
"It's because he's disruptive, that's really all it is."
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Renian echo in your mind:
"Further, it's continual proof that the GM's policy of "being disruptive" is just a blanket that they can use to lock out people they don't like, despite rationality."
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-You echo in your mind:
"I didn't argue a whole lot because it wouldn't have accomplished anything "
>You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Brade echo in your mind:
"^^^^^^"
* Kinre returns home from a hard day of adventuring.
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Sorvael echo in your mind:
"that's the point, they don't listen no matter what ya say"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Desorceri echo in your mind:
"smart move"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-You echo in your mind:
"Anyway, I'll be back later when I figure out how to get the old stand-alone psinet."
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Belnia echo in your mind:
"I think Caro bringing 17 accounts to a merchant is disruptive."
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Zuie echo in your mind:
":9"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Juilene echo in your mind:
"Heh, Renian, did you sit in a room with Tayre while he was healing? You'd seriously understand how it was distruptive."
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Zuie echo in your mind:
"er"
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Belnia echo in your mind:
"And it certainly diminishes my enjoyment of the game."

>You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-You echo in your mind:
"Hey Juilene, shut the fuck up."
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Brade echo in your mind:
"There are other places to heal."
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Renian echo in your mind:
"I've seen the logs."
You hear the faint thoughts of [OOC]-Brade echo in your mind:
"there's thousands of rooms in the damn game."
quit
--- Lich's connection to the game has been closed.

[Tisket]

Thats fucked up. Thirty days isn't so bad though. I understand quitting entirely in protest but isn't that kinda throwing the baby out with the bathwater?

[Outdrsyguy1]

thanks for posting that. sorry bout the ban :(

[Kyra231]

Err so now scripting while at the keyboard is against policy? Wtf.

~K.

[Widgets]

Err so now scripting while at the keyboard is against policy? Wtf.

~K.

To the GMs, it was deemed as disruptive and further more they told him to not use it again. He used it again and suffered the consequences.

It was considered disruptive due in part of as soon as someone would ask for healing, the script would jump right on that person.

Usually, the human brain has to take in the information first, of said person asking for healing which the process tends to be a few seconds and even more so with constant screen scroll.

So basically, that script hindered any chance for a normal human not running a script to even process in all the information and react upon it, healing the person before that script would basically do it in a split second. That's pretty much why they consider it disruptive since it doesn't give anyone else a fair shot of healing the person for the XP as well.

All in all, as a Non-Healer, I don't care because if I'm at 1 health, the faster the better I say. But from a Healer's point of view, I can see their side of it as well.

[iJin]

MY POOR BABY. :(

[Some Rogue]

PWNT

Also, there was unconsented PvP..etc. It's not like it was just the script.

[sst]

Well, it looks like he told you to knock something off, you didn't and ya got fucked for it. Perhaps you should have listened?

[CrystalTears]

I adore you Drew... you know I do... but are you seriously surprised? It was a script you were told not to use anymore. Why did you even have it on? How does it "accidentally" go off? Yeah, because it was active. You should have just removed it once you were warned about it.

Besides, from the sounds of it when you first got Tayre back, it was just to piss off other empaths for being their usual selves. You honestly shouldn't be surprised by any of this.

[Misun]

What I find more annoying now (actually I never found him annoying, even with my empath) is that Rocksand is bragging that she got him banned. Thinly veiled ooc comments in the TSC. She's disruptive...I don't see why she hasn't been banned yet. Script or no script.

[CrystalTears]

She needs to be reported as much, if not moreso, than they did to Tayre. Her ooc commentary causes more disruption than some healing script.

[Soulpieced]

http://media.urbandictionary.com/image/large/owned-41407.jpg

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Hey, you owe me 300k! That's like $3.00!

[Kamkor]

Sorry to hear Tayre, you have saved me a few times when I was on the verge. Had no problem with your quick healin.

Also had an empath in TSC when you were in there, and It wasent that bad, because you sometimes waited after healings.

That and I guess I didn't gripe about you having the script, and I wanted it. LOL

[Sweets]

What I find more annoying now (actually I never found him annoying, even with my empath) is that Rocksand is bragging that she got him banned. Thinly veiled ooc comments in the TSC. She's disruptive...I don't see why she hasn't been banned yet. Script or no script.


I want to strangle Medatrix.

[Stanley Burrell]

Ban SF users for having an unfair mechanical click-and-point advantage for Empaths over Wizard users using a program that makes healing easier.

Bah, though.

[Misun]

I want to strangle Medatrix.

Yeah, she's not letting up either...every time I see her today she's talking about it.

[Gan]

Vif/Roxanne/Medicatryxiawhatever wins again. :(

[Jenisi]

I know it was more than the script, but I don't think they should have asked him to stop using it in the first place. I don't see how saying that him being on auto-heal is disruptive behavior at all. My healer would sit in TSC and I never ONCE had an issue with him. Anyways, sucks to see that happen Tayre.

[Ilvane]

How about just not using the script and effectively stopping the reason to get banned?

Seems logical.

Angela

[Misun]

Vif/Roxanne/Medicatryxiawhatever wins again. :(

Does she really? She's still an idiot. She's tried to heal me twice today without asking me first. I have her set to cold already because she's always done that. Then she starts telling a friend of mine that he doesn't like her because of me. I've never interacted with her. Just put her on cold so she would stop 'auto healing' me even after I told her not to. I would say that's more disruptive.

[Khariz]

How about just not using the script and effectively stopping the reason to get banned?

Seems logical.

Angela

This makes me want to read Atlas Shrugged again.

You have no clue what logic is, Angela.

[Misun]

This makes me want to read Atlas Shrugged again.



Such a good book. I want to read it again now. ;)

[Khariz]

Such a good book. I want to read it again now. ;)

Let's stop wanting to, and just do it.

[Ilvane]

Sorry you disagree Khariz, but if you are told not to do something, then you do that exact thing--then get punished for it..

What exactly does he expect again?

[Numbers]

That's bullshit. There's nothing in the policy about healing too fast. Doesn't matter whether you're doing it with a script or not. Disrupting other people? What a load of cockshit. Many multi-accounters are very disruptive, but it's extra revenue for Simu, so they get away with all types of crap. Players like Rocksand are disruptive -- who the fuck knows why they let her/him/it get away with it.

It's retarded all around.

[iJin]

Medixctrnsncndjsn was scripting healing. I said a couple of things and reported, then me and Tealcie and the cunt got pulled. :(

[Consultation Lounge]
The cozy surroundings of this simple conference room provide a much-welcomed respite from the chaos just outside its walls. You notice several plush chairs arranged casually around the room in a comfortable grouping.
Obvious exits: none
sJ>
A shaft of scintillating light suddenly pierces the ceiling and strikes the ground next to you. The beam of light then explodes in a shower of sparks and Naionna is standing in its place.
sJ>
Naionna says, "Hi there."
sJ>observe
You casually observe your surroundings.
sJ>'greetings
You softly say, "Greetings."
sJ>nod nai
You nod to Naionna.
sJ>chat osht, shes here
You focus on transmitting your thought.
[OOC]-You: "osht, shes here"
Naionna says, "We need to speak for a moment."
sJ>
[OOC]-Tealcie: "lalalala la lalalala driving the big red car"
[OOC]-Tealcie: "utoh"
>'alright
You softly say, "Alright."
sJ>
Naionna says, "I realize that you are irritated with Medicatrixrayah."
sJ>
[OOC]-Klubber: "how is medictrxwhore already out?"
>'indeed
You softly say, "Indeed."
sJ>
[OOC]-Zimzum: "banana phone"
Naionna says, "However, we've been monitoring this situation for some time."
sJ>
[OOC]-Rusteek: "Demand to speak to your Attorney"
[OOC]-Tealcie: "they finished with her first, now zuie then me"
>'for five minutes?
You softly ask, "For five minutes?"
sJ>
[OOC]-Jaidea: "medicunt is back"
Naionna says, "And you are just as guilty of disruptive behavior and harassment."
sJ>
Naionna says, "No for about an hour."
sJ>
Naionna smiles.
sJ>express
Your face goes blank.
sJ>'me?
You softly ask, "Me?"
sJ>
[OOC]-Renian: "Attorney? Like who, Phoenix Wright?"
[OOC]-Rusteek: "Say I plead the fith"
Naionna says, "Yes you."
sJ>
[OOC]-Rusteek: "fifth"
>'what did I do?
You softly ask, "What did I do?"
sJ>
Naionna says, "Here's the deal."
sJ>
[OOC]-Rusteek: "Rusteek toldd me too"
[OOC]-Dhainari: "Pleading the fith is better."
[OOC]-Klubber: "she musta just got told dont do it again! then sent back"
>chat lol shes saying im being disruptive and doing harrassment
You focus on transmitting your thought.
[OOC]-You: "lol shes saying im being disruptive and doing harrassment"
[OOC]-Tealcie: "LOL i am going to ask for an attorney"
>'i never told her anything
You softly say, "I never told her anything."
sJ>glance away
You glance away.
sJ>
Naionna says, "No more thinly veiled comments about her being nasty."
sJ>gaze zui
You wrinkle your nose.
sJ>
[OOC]-Rusteek: "Ask For Rusteek to represent you"
Naionna says, "No more thinly veiled comments about her being a vulture."
sJ>
[OOC]-Rathmond: "survived one hunt. got beat up though!"
>cough
You cough.
sJ>
Naionna says, "No more comments about going to TSC and vulturing since 'you warned us'."
sJ>
[OOC]-Tealcie: "sorry we can't heal you ask medicacalickalotapuss"
[OOC]-Zaaf: "you're doing the chairs, not harassment."
>'i never said anything directed, to, her
You softly say, "I never said anything directed, to, her."
sJ>
Naionna says, "If you have an issue with another player, and consider their behavior to be disruptive, you report ONCE."
sJ>
[OOC]-Rusteek: "Tell them he has more expierience dealing with You people"
>'i was saying in general
You softly say, "I was saying in general."
sJ>
Naionna says, "Then you ASSISt to record the details."
sJ>
Naionna says, "And at the very least, you can WARN her if you feel its harassment."
sJ>
Naionna says, "It doesnt matter if its in general or not."
sJ>'the time it will take to be answered for an assist will be the same amount of time it will tae to get a full head in TSC. Which is a long time.
You softly say, "The time it will take to be answered for an assist will be the same amount of time it will tae to get a full head in TSC. Which is a long time."
sJ>
Naionna says, "Do we understand each other on this? Because the next time it won't be a consultation. It will be a warning."
sJ>
Naionna says, "There isn't room for debate in this."
sJ>'no, of course not
You softly say, "No, of course not."
sJ>'cause of course, you people don't see eye in eye with what we think
You softly say, "Cause of course, you people don't see eye in eye with what we think."
sJ>'but sure
You softly say, "But sure."
sJ>'i'll shut up
You softly say, "I'll shut up."
sJ>smile
You smile.
sJ>
[OOC]-Tealcie: "Tealcie looks for something to read"
Naionna says, "I'm sorry that you feel that way, Zuie. But you did not help your case with all yoru comments and behavior with your friends today."
sJ>cough
You cough.
sJ>
Naionna says, "If you want to keep yourself out of trouble and bring the attention to someone else, the best way to do that is not to act as you did today."
sJ>
[OOC]-Rusteek: "tell them you think it'd be better if they spoke to your mother"
[OOC]-Haalen: "is she charging you with hoolaginism?"
[OOC]-Rusteek: "and give her cell phone number"
>'So, I let her script heal and I hope to get a run in, yes?
You softly ask, "So, I let her script heal and I hope to get a run in, yes?"
sJ>'can I drag her away?
You softly ask, "Can I drag her away?"
sJ>
Naionna says, "You let the staff handle issues, not you."
sJ>'that'd be nice
You softly say, "That'd be nice."
sJ>
[OOC]-Rusteek: "Tell them you can't enter a binding contract because you are a minor"
>'if they ever
You softly say, "If they ever."
sJ>
Naionna says, "Whether or not she script heals is something WE deal with, not a player."
sJ>
[OOC]-Rusteek: "and she needs to give your permission"
[OOC]-Kakeshi: "she's not a minor anymore"
[OOC]-Rusteek: "before you agree to anything"
[OOC]-Rusteek: "they don't know that"
Naionna says, "If you feel this is a bad decision on our part, or that we are not handling things as you'd like, feedback is your venue."
sJ>
Naionna says, "Other than that, you need to leave her alone."
sJ>'they're just as bad
You softly say, "They're just as bad."
sJ>blink zui
You close your eyes for a moment.
sJ>'i didn't do anything to her
You softly say, "I didn't do anything to her."
sJ>
[OOC]-Rusteek: "and than tell them you have flatulance"
Naionna says, "This is the end of this conversation."
sJ>
[OOC]-Tealcie: "minor is far far far in my past hehe"
[OOC]-Rusteek: "and excuse yourself for a moment"
>gaze
You gaze in wonder at your surroundings.
sJ>'yes dear
Naionna says, "I'm going to return you to the game now. Please heed the advice I've given you."
sJ>
You softly say, "Yes dear."


Arguing with that bitch is pointless, and I was listening to Nine Inch Nails and had some Dr.Pepper so I didn't really care much. But, I guess you can't make -indirect- comments out in the open anymore cause its disruptive behavior and the like. Very nice.

[CrystalTears]

When you do that, you just make it worse and they end up siding with the other dorks. Just report the morons and then ignore them.

[Khariz]

Sorry you disagree Khariz, but if you are told not to do something, then you do that exact thing--then get punished for it..

What exactly does he expect again?

Let me spell it out for you:

It's wrong to punish people for being better and/or more efficient than someone else.

Tayre can heal people however he wants to, as long as he's at the keyboard and is controlling what is going on (which he was, at all times). He wasn't violating the AFK scripting policy. He wasn't using a script to do anything but a normal in-game function (healing).

Objectively, he has broken no rules. The only way the GM could even "decide" that he broke a rule, was to pick an arbitrary and capricious one with no particular meaning (subjective disruptiveness) and assign the blame based on that rule to Tayre. Again, objectively, what he was doing could not have been disruptive. I can click someone's name and click off all of their wounds nearly as fast, or 3 empaths could have healed Ranil instead. It would cause the same amount scroll either way. Healing is not objectivly disruptive.

It is rules that have no meaning except for the one that is supposed to enforce it that cannot exist. GMs cannot arbitrarily decide that one script is disruptive and another is not, assuming both are doing nothing but completing game functions while the person is present at the keyboard.

I repeat: It is wrong to punish people for being better and/or more efficient than someone else. Competition is good. If other empath's don't like it, they can learn to best him, or go heal somewhere else. That one room isn't the only room in the game that people can heal in.


"I swear by my life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for the sake of mine." -John Galt

[Back]

You reap what you sow. Karma’s a bitch, sometimes.

[Khariz]

You reap what you sow. Karma’s a bitch, sometimes.

Lothwyn is the one who should keep that in mind, not Tayre.

[Stanley Burrell]

[OOC]-Tealcie: "lalalala la lalalala driving the big red car"
[OOC]-Tealcie: "utoh"


Why I don't use PsiNet.

[CrystalTears]

However unfortunately people were frustrated and pissed off enough to report him to the point of getting warned and told not to use the script.

Is it unfair seeing as how he's not the only one to script-heal? Sure. But unfortunately the GMs can make or break your existence in the game. And if you're told not to use the script and then use it anyway, they're not going against their word and you shouldn't be surprised by it.

They've been cracking down on scripters, whether you're AFK or not. It's stupid and makes me paranoid to do anything that causes me to glance away for a second, but it's the rules.

I agree that empaths should have just got up and gone elsewhere rather than report like children because their one spot is being taken over by a good healer. Get over it. Go to the crypt in the graveyard. That place is pitifully empty.

[Khariz]

Paraphrase: GMs can make or break you, regardless of whether you break the rules.

They've been cracking down on scripters, whether you're AFK or not. It's stupid and makes me paranoid to do anything that causes me to glance away for a second, but it's the rules.



That right there is the only problem with this game. I ask only that they properly define their rules so that I may know what they are. As little subjective bullshit as possible on their end would be nice. Tell me what I can and cannot do, and leave me alone as long as I stay in bounds.

Arbitrarily changing the rules from one person to the next, from one day to the next, is not appropriate unless policy if formally changed.

[CrystalTears]

And with the High Maintenance Policy (not even sure if that's what this situation was or not), having someone being constantly reported, regardless of whether they were being disruptive or not, is probably enough reason to warn them simply because they have to spend their time watching this person.

Personally, I'm truly tired of GMs feeling they need to babysit players because of the whiners who can't handle being targeted for whatever reason, whether warranted or not. It needs to go back to us being able to patrol and police our own, in our own ways. And if you don't like it, move, put up or shut up. Or better yet, don't be an asshole that would cause people to kill you on sight.

[Back]

Lothwyn is the one who should keep that in mind, not Tayre.

Thats why I used the term “bitch” in this instance.

This is not a democracy, my friend. Pay to play or save your money for something else.

The Black Crowes - Movin' On Down the Line (http://www.foxytunes.com/artist/the+black+crowes/track/movin+on+down+the+line)

[Bobmuhthol]

What would happen if someone ran an auto-heal script and denied it? Are they seriously going to be like, "Well, we think you're running a script, so you're banned."

[Khariz]

Thats why I used the term “bitch” in this instance.

This is not a democracy, my friend. Pay to play or save your money for something else.

The Black Crowes - Movin' On Down the Line (http://www.foxytunes.com/artist/the+black+crowes/track/movin+on+down+the+line)

Please don't think I'm disillusioned enough to think that Gemstone is democracy. It's particularly BECAUSE we pay them though, that they are obligated to properly define their rules, in an objective way, if they want us to continue to pay for it.

Unfortunately for Simutronics, they do business in a somewhat capitalistic society. We can stop paying whenever we decide that the "service" they are providing is no longer worth the money. Arbitrary/Capricious enforcement of non-sensical policy is a great incentive for me to stop giving them my money.

The second I fall victim to any such nonsense, they will lose a bunch of money.

[CrystalTears]

The second I fall victim to any such nonsense, they will lose a bunch of money.
They don't care.

[Methais]

How about just not using the script and effectively stopping the reason to get banned?

Seems logical.

Angela

How about just not posting and effectively stopping the reason to get flamed?

Seems logical.

http://www.flishfun.com/photos/albums/userpics/10001/stop-posting.gif

[Back]

They don't care.

Much more succinct than I would have put it. Bravo.

The Black Crowes - There's Gold In Them Hills (http://www.foxytunes.com/artist/the+black+crowes/track/theres+gold+in+them+hills)

[Khariz]

When they start caring, it will be too late. That's the beauty of it.

[Some Rogue]

They don't care.

And neither do we.

[Khariz]

And neither do we.

Good. I would not expect any of you to waste your time and effort responding to any of my drivel.

:tumble:

[JohnDoe]

Drew, I think you should distribute the script(s) to as many empaths as you can find.

[CrystalTears]

When they start caring, it will be too late. That's the beauty of it.
You really think a team of volunteers is going to care that badly about no longer having to spend hours on a game they weren't getting paid to work on? Seriously?

[Khariz]

Drew, I think you should distribute the script(s) to as many empaths as you can find.

Excellent idea.

[Khariz]

You really think a team of volunteers is going to care that badly about no longer having to spend hours on a game they weren't getting paid to work on? Seriously?

They aren't the people who care about losing my money, either. I'm not talking about them.

[CrystalTears]

Yeah make sure they give empaths a real good shaft in the ass. That'll teach them.

[CrystalTears]

They aren't the people who care about losing my money, either. I'm not talking about them.
So who exactly cares about losing your money other than the people collecting it? The other players? You realize that Simu has games with about 10 people in it. The game won't die. It's like the pimple on the ass of roleplaying. It's not going anywhere.

[sst]

They aren't the people who care about losing my money, either. I'm not talking about them.

this type of thing has happened 100 times, 100 different ways, Simu didn't care then, they don't care now.

[Khariz]

Yeah make sure they give empaths a real good shaft in the ass. That'll teach them.

I beg you to tell me the difference between all empaths in the game using that same script, or all empaths in the game using SF point and click?

Answer: Nothing but people getting healed faster/more efficiently.

It would be a wonderful day, if all empaths could learn to heal as well as Tayre (while also having the self discipline to actually be at the key board playing as well, like he was).

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

I have no idea why the continue to coddle Vif/Rocksand/Medicunt. How many people will (have) quit the game because of her?

[Khariz]

Taking a few hours break from educating you folks on the demise of society. I'll be back.

[CrystalTears]

I beg you to tell me the difference between all empaths in the game using that same script, or all empaths in the game using SF point and click?
Eh, there's a difference. SF requires some minimal effort from the user by actually clicking on the wounds and making sure it doesn't kill you. The script is fully automated, which means you don't have to even touch the mouse or keyboard for it to heal.

Empaths need to get nerfed. They need to either choose to be healers or choose to be hunters. They shouldn't be effective at doing both.

[Methais]

I say remove empaths from the game and change the NPC healer to take wounds and scars. BAM! Another silver drain.

[Soulpieced]

This thread...

http://users.chariot.net.au/~misterx/steve/images/cry_me_a_river.jpg

[Rue]

I agree, empaths should be removed and EVERYONE should have the ability to heal themselves. A skill similar to lock picking, disarming, survival, climbing, and swimming, and ect.

[CrystalTears]

I agree, empaths should be removed and EVERYONE should have the ability to heal themselves. A skill similar to lock picking, disarming, survival, climbing, and swimming, and ect.
It's called buying herbs.

[Back]

Empaths are over rated anyway.

[Rue]

Actually, its called another game all together.

I am not into starting that herb thing on these boards allllllllll over again. But yes, herbs work wonders even if they are heavy.

[Bobmuhthol]

<<Empaths need to get nerfed. They need to either choose to be healers or choose to be hunters. They shouldn't be effective at doing both.>>

Rogues shouldn't be able to pick boxes!

[Widgets]

Let me spell it out for you:

It's wrong to punish people for being better and/or more efficient than someone else.

Tayre can heal people however he wants to, as long as he's at the keyboard and is controlling what is going on (which he was, at all times). He wasn't violating the AFK scripting policy. He wasn't using a script to do anything but a normal in-game function (healing).

Objectively, he has broken no rules. The only way the GM could even "decide" that he broke a rule, was to pick an arbitrary and capricious one with no particular meaning (subjective disruptiveness) and assign the blame based on that rule to Tayre. Again, objectively, what he was doing could not have been disruptive. I can click someone's name and click off all of their wounds nearly as fast, or 3 empaths could have healed Ranil instead. It would cause the same amount scroll either way. Healing is not objectivly disruptive.

It is rules that have no meaning except for the one that is supposed to enforce it that cannot exist. GMs cannot arbitrarily decide that one script is disruptive and another is not, assuming both are doing nothing but completing game functions while the person is present at the keyboard.

I repeat: It is wrong to punish people for being better and/or more efficient than someone else. Competition is good. If other empath's don't like it, they can learn to best him, or go heal somewhere else. That one room isn't the only room in the game that people can heal in.


"I swear by my life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for the sake of mine." -John Galt

Even there, you're wrong. As he was at keyboard, yes...But he was not controlling what was going on at all times, as you just said. His script was...Not once did Tayre enter any direct input method while healing, so thus he was not in control.

Hell, even he said his script "Accidentally Activated" if I remember reading it right. Being better and efficient than someone else is much different than possessing scripts that do it all for you IMHO.

So technically, my level 40 Empath with the same scripts as Tayre would be realistically "better and efficient" than say, a Capped healer who focuses on just that..Healing people? I'd have to say that's not a good way of putting it in your terms..But again, this is all my opinion which everyone is entitled to.

[Bobmuhthol]

<<As he was at keyboard, yes...But he was not controlling what was going on at all times, as you just said. His script was...Not once did Tayre enter any direct input method while healing, so thus he was not in control.>>

That is the shittiest argument I've ever heard. Retard.

[CrystalTears]

<<Empaths need to get nerfed. They need to either choose to be healers or choose to be hunters. They shouldn't be effective at doing both.>>

Rogues shouldn't be able to pick boxes!
You have to train to pick boxes. If you want to be really good, you may have to sacrifice some hunting skills to do it. Or be mediocre. It's not the same thing.

Unless of course empaths don't train in spells, and in that case, no point in playing an empath at all.

[Widgets]

<<As he was at keyboard, yes...But he was not controlling what was going on at all times, as you just said. His script was...Not once did Tayre enter any direct input method while healing, so thus he was not in control.>>

That is the shittiest argument I've ever heard. Retard.

Says the one who trolls forums for a game they don't even play? Great comeback too I guess.

Enlighten me then Bob, how was he controlling what was going on at all times? By using his eyes to watch his script heal the guy? Or being able to, if needed, hit the Escape key to cancel/abort the script?

Plain and simple, not once was he controlling anything. Target says "Need Healing." Script activates and heals..Not the player behind Tayre.

[Bobmuhthol]

<<You have to train to pick boxes. If you want to be really good, you may have to sacrifice some hunting skills to do it. Or be mediocre. It's not the same thing.>>

You have to train to be a good healer as much as you have to train to be a good locksmith. Having played an empath and a rogue, it's exactly the same thing.

[CrystalTears]

You don't have to do anything but learn the empath spell circle. You don't have to learn any skills to improve it. You don't have to learn any lores for you to be an effective healer and learn completely from it, and then be able to go out and hunt effectively as well.

They are the not the same thing.

[Bobmuhthol]

<<You don't have to do anything but learn the empath spell circle.>>

Sure, if you want to not be as good as other empaths. Also: you don't have to do anything but learn lockpicking to pick locks.

<<You don't have to learn any skills to improve it.>>

You do if you want to not suck really badly as a competitive empath and be able to get fried quickly and efficiently.

<<You don't have to learn any lores for you to be an effective healer and learn completely from it, and then be able to go out and hunt effectively as well.>>

You don't have to learn any lores for you to be an effective locksmith and learn completely from it, and then be able to go out and hunt effectively as well.

There's no argument you can make: lockpicking and healing are the same.

[Anferis]

You can put ranks in Spiritual Lore : Transformation or some shit like that for less RT. Also, if you weren't aware, the Empath circle costs points. So does Picking Locks and Disarming Traps. You could be an Empath and train Major/Minor Spiritual and go extreme mega wtf combat but it's better to just do both since the Empath circle has offensive spells.


Edit:

Yeah.. What Bob said..

[Tisket]

Says the one who trolls forums for a game they don't even play? Great comeback too I guess.

Dude...many of us don't play Gemstone.

Assuming someone has limited knowledge about an activity they no longer engage in isn't much of an argument.

[CrystalTears]

<<You don't have to do anything but learn the empath spell circle.>>

Sure, if you want to not be as good as other empaths. Also: you don't have to do anything but learn lockpicking to pick locks.
You still have to learn the skill to disarm and lockpick at the cost of sacrificing something else in return.

Empaths sacrifice nothing in order to learn to heal. Their first empath spell allows them to start healing blood loss.


<<You don't have to learn any skills to improve it.>>

You do if you want to not suck really badly as a competitive empath and be able to get fried quickly and efficiently.
Not learning lores doesn't make you worse, just better, but you can still heal effectively and learn solely from it as well.


<<You don't have to learn any lores for you to be an effective healer and learn completely from it, and then be able to go out and hunt effectively as well.>>

You don't have to learn any lores for you to be an effective locksmith and learn completely from it, and then be able to go out and hunt effectively as well.
But you have to keep on training in lockpicking for the rest of your leveling life in order to continue to pick boxes or you end up at a stand still of what you're able to open. As far as healing goes, once you've learned the first ten spells, you can heal anything at any time and nothing will stop you from learning from those wounds.


There's no argument you can make: lockpicking and healing are the same.
They're not. When healing becomes a skill that anyone can learn and fit into their training, then they'll be the same.

[Anferis]

You don't HAVE to train the Empath circle just like you don't HAVE to train Picking Locks/Disarming Traps.

Everyone can heal, it's called herbs and First Aid.

While we're at it, let's make everyone able to raise the dead... Not just clerics. That's just unfair.

[Soulpieced]

I have to side with CT. Healing is absolutely different than lockpicking. You have to have knowledge about what locks and traps are, different lockpicks to use, etc. In order for an empath to heal... you type out transfer XXX and it's done. Requires no advanced knowledge of game mechanics, or anything additional in terms of training points that it takes to hunt.

[Anferis]

Lores that help reduce RT from healing down cost TPs.

[Widgets]

Dude...many of us don't play Gemstone.

Assuming someone has limited knowledge about an activity they no longer engage in isn't much of an argument.

Sorry for assuming people who don't play Gemstone, tend to see the sunlight more often then or have better things to do than make posts in a Forum about current happenings to others in the game then.

I personally tend to not get involved with things like this if I'm not even involved in the game itself..I guess everyone has to pass time somehow

[Bobmuhthol]

<<You still have to learn the skill to disarm and lockpick at the cost of sacrificing something else in return.

Empaths sacrifice nothing in order to learn to heal. Their first empath spell allows them to start healing blood loss.>>

I can't discuss this with you. If you think one skill that costs training points requires sacrifice but another skill that costs training points doesn't, then you have no business living.

<<Not learning lores doesn't make you worse, just better, but you can still heal effectively and learn solely from it as well.>>

You can pick locks with no additional lores.

<<But you have to keep on training in lockpicking for the rest of your leveling life in order to continue to pick boxes or you end up at a stand still of what you're able to open. As far as healing goes, once you've learned the first ten spells, you can heal anything at any time and nothing will stop you from learning from those wounds.>>

So fucking what? You can still pick boxes of a certain difficulty with limited lockpicking ranks, and you can still get experience from it.

<<When healing becomes a skill that anyone can learn and fit into their training, then they'll be the same.>>

I appreciate that you waited until now to make this point, after realizing that everything you've said previously has been total bullshit.

[CrystalTears]

You don't HAVE to train the Empath circle just like you don't HAVE to train Picking Locks/Disarming Traps.
You're right. You don't have to train in anything. Thanks, that was enlightening. My point is that lockpicking is not the same kind of training as learning to heal. There is no point in being an empath if you're never going to learn the empath circle.


Everyone can heal, it's called herbs and First Aid.
Then let's do away with empaths since we're in agreement.


While we're at it, let's make everyone able to raise the dead... Not just clerics. That's just unfair.
If you have the scrolls, go for it. Considering how spiritually exhausting it is to raise, I wouldn't want that job anyway.

[Bobmuhthol]

<<You have to have knowledge about what locks and traps are, different lockpicks to use, etc. In order for an empath to heal... you type out transfer XXX and it's done. Requires no advanced knowledge of game mechanics, or anything additional in terms of training points that it takes to hunt.>>

Okay, I'll totally agree with you: healing and lockpicking are literally different skills. That's irrelevant to everything CT said, though.

[Bobmuhthol]

<<There is no point in being an empath if you're never going to learn the empath circle.>>

According to you, empaths are effective hunters, so there's one point.

[Anferis]

Then let's do away with empaths since we're in agreement.
I thought you were saying that not everyone could heal and it wasn't right that Empaths could. Everyone can heal some way or another. Empaths have a special way of doing it that is much more useful because that's what their class does similiar to Clerics being able to raise.

[CrystalTears]

<<There is no point in being an empath if you're never going to learn the empath circle.>>

According to you, empaths are effective hunters, so there's one point.
Fucking hell. The empath spell circle allows you to be an effective healer AND hunter. All training and lores learned on top of that just make you better for either or both.

I'm not saying that one learned skilled is better or worse than another. I'm saying that as an empath, you're going to learn the empath circle. It's going to give you access to be able to learn to heal and hunt.

I'm sorry if I'm not able to debate well and my point gets screwed up. I just don't believe that any of the side tasks like gem singing, lockpicking, imbuing, enchanting or whatever else is the same thing as empath healing.


I thought you were saying that not everyone could heal and it wasn't right that Empaths could. Everyone can heal some way or another. Empaths have a special way of doing it that is much more useful because that's what their class does similiar to Clerics being able to raise.
Only empaths learn from healing.

[Methais]

Says the one who trolls forums for a game they don't even play? Great comeback too I guess.

Enlighten me then Bob, how was he controlling what was going on at all times? By using his eyes to watch his script heal the guy? Or being able to, if needed, hit the Escape key to cancel/abort the script?

Plain and simple, not once was he controlling anything. Target says "Need Healing." Script activates and heals..Not the player behind Tayre.

The whole idea behind scripts is automation.

[Anferis]

I'm sure if there was a scroll that let you transfer wounds like it lets you raise dead that you would get experience. Well, if raise dead scrolls even give you experience. I wouldn't know. i suck.

[iJin]

Suck good, Anferis.

[longshot]

Says the one who trolls forums for a game they don't even play? Great comeback too I guess.


Who the fuck are you to think you can just come on here and run your mouth?

You know dick about dick, and I suggest you lurk for awhile before you further embarrass yourself.

You're going to accuse Bob of trolling the forums, eh?

I'm going to accuse you of being a worthless piece of shit. Only one of us is correct in our accusation though... I'll let you figure out who that is.

[Gan]

Sorry for assuming people who don't play Gemstone, tend to see the sunlight more often then or have better things to do than make posts in a Forum about current happenings to others in the game then.

I personally tend to not get involved with things like this if I'm not even involved in the game itself..I guess everyone has to pass time somehow

Dude. This is an online forum - people discuss shit on an online forum whether its a means to pass time or not. Most everyone here has played the game at one point or another - thats why they came here initially. The fact that some still post here even when they no longer play the game, combined with the presence of folders non-game related means that these people still like to communicate with those whom they became acquainted with when they did play... and new idiots like yourself.

If at 23 posts you feel that posting here is merely a means to pass the time then feel free to go waste elsewhere before you really start feeling long pangs of regret for such wasted time.

[Widgets]

Who the fuck are you to think you can just come on here and run your mouth?

You know dick about dick, and I suggest you lurk for awhile before you further embarrass yourself.

You're going to accuse Bob of trolling the forums, eh?

I'm going to accuse you of being a worthless piece of shit. Only one of us is correct in our accusation though... I'll let you figure out who that is.

Yup you caught me, I know dick about dick. I'm such a worthless piece of shit whom has nothing better to do but call others on the internet names all while sitting behind a PC monitor...Oh wait, that's not me right now is it?

Moving on..

Methais: Automation yes. But that doesn't mean he/she/whomever is in "Control" of everything. A plane for example, on Autopilot, is not under full control of a pilot...Well, in today's world it likely is with all the computer systems, but hell..You get my idea ;)

[Stanley Burrell]

Dude. This is an online forum - people discuss shit on an online forum whether its a means to pass time or not. Most everyone here has played the game at one point or another - thats why they came here initially. The fact that some still post here even when they no longer play the game, combined with the presence of folders non-game related means that these people still like to communicate with those whom they became acquainted with when they did play... and new idiots like yourself.

If at 23 posts you feel that posting here is merely a means to pass the time then feel free to go waste elsewhere before you really start feeling long pangs of regret for such wasted time.

That was pretty fantastic, heh.

[Asha]

You really have to lurk before you become a member these days.
Otherwise you stand a chance of becoming Ismurii.

Bob is awesome.

[sst]

Longshot going in for the defense of bob with guns a blazing... could it be... love? =D

[Widgets]

Dude. This is an online forum - people discuss shit on an online forum whether its a means to pass time or not. Most everyone here has played the game at one point or another - thats why they came here initially. The fact that some still post here even when they no longer play the game, combined with the presence of folders non-game related means that these people still like to communicate with those whom they became acquainted with when they did play... and new idiots like yourself.

If at 23 posts you feel that posting here is merely a means to pass the time then feel free to go waste elsewhere before you really start feeling long pangs of regret for such wasted time.

Should I log into my other account here? Would my larger post count, earlier registered date etc on that one make you feel any better?

Seriously...

[Khariz]

Empaths need to get nerfed. They need to either choose to be healers or choose to be hunters. They shouldn't be effective at doing both.

Remember this sentence, folks.

CT is saying that it's "unfair" that they can do both, and that ALL of them should be punished for those that have the ability to do both well.

A man who owns a steel mill, should not also own the ore. That would be unfair to everyone else. Everyone should get their fair share, and be good at only one thing. If it turns out that they are good at two, punish them mercilessly until they only chose to do one!

[longshot]

Tayre, sorry about your ban. Gemstone is more fun when you're there upsetting the people who are bad at life.

I do agree with CT, in that the problems of people whining about you are inherent to the empath class. Maybe the merits of a class being able to both hunt and earn experience without risk deserves its own thread...

But 30 days isn't so terrible. I wouldn't quit.

[Widgets]

You really have to lurk before you become a member these days.
Otherwise you stand a chance of becoming Ismurii.

Bob is awesome.

Bob is good, I'll give him that. But to come right in, firing at someone simply by calling them a Retard is well, you get the idea.

And before anyone else here makes more assumptions, yes, I've known Bob when he has played Gemstone.

[Asha]

Should I log into my other account here? Would my larger post count, earlier registered date etc on that one make you feel any better?

Seriously...

Maybe. If you presented better knowledge of anything you were talking about that may have come with that other persona you'd created over the internet through the time you may have spent posting as such.

[longshot]

Remember this sentence, folks.

CT is saying that it's "unfair" that they can do both, and that ALL of them should be punished for those that have the ability to do both well.

A man who owns a steel mill, should not also own the ore. That would be unfair to everyone else. Everyone should get their fair share, and be good at only one thing. If it turns out that they are good at two, punish them mercilessly until they only chose to do one!

Thank you, Confucius.

You can return to shutting up anytime you wish...

[Anferis]

Suck good, Anferis.

Duh.



Thank you, Confucius.

Hahahah.

[Widgets]

Maybe. If you presented better knowledge of anything you were talking about that may have come with that other persona you'd created over the internet through the time you may have spent posting as such.

My main reasoning behind the new account here, is that I figured I'd post under a name that directly represents the in-game persona of myself.

However I don't think logging into my other, more well known account is going to make a difference in this case. I don't care enough to have to "Prove" my stardom/worth here on the Player Corner Forums of all thing.

At the end of the day, I don't take a word that is said here from almost anyone to heart. So no harm, no foul for me. It's an outlet to most, I understand that, as well as a form of expression to many

[Khariz]

Wrong Philosopher. By a long shot.

[Widgets]

Wrong Philosopher. By a long shot.

Pun intended? ;)

[Snapp]

My main reasoning behind the new account here, is that I figured I'd post under a name that directly represents the in-game persona of myself.


I know you're not a new poster. However, it looks awful shady when a poster who appears to be a n00b comes in talking some shit. That's why people are defensive.

[longshot]

Should I log into my other account here? Would my larger post count, earlier registered date etc on that one make you feel any better?

Seriously...

No, it wouldn't help you.

You made it clear that you know nothing. I don't see how an earlier registration date or post count is going to fix that.

You're not contributing anything. Can you please stop posting?

[Widgets]

I know you're not a new poster. However, it looks awful shady when a poster who appears to be a n00b comes in talking some shit. That's why people are defensive.

Nah I understand that, I however would like to think I'm not talking shit.

Find a post where I've called someone a name, then I'll go back and say I talked shit.

But so far, I'd like to think my posts are rather opinionated and constructive..Far from Talking shit.

[Widgets]

No, it wouldn't help you.

You made it clear that you know nothing. I don't see how an earlier registration date or post count is going to fix that.

You're not contributing anything. Can you please stop posting?

Sure, so long as we both agree and make it mutual. However I'm mostly posting in reply to those who quote me/reply to me..As Snapp just did.

[longshot]

My main reasoning behind the new account here, is that I figured I'd post under a name that directly represents the in-game persona of myself.



If you want to to role play, you should log into the game.

If you want to keep on sucking cock, please continue to post as your "persona."

What the fuck is wrong with you?

[Anferis]

So.. since we're completely off topic from the threads original topic...

I just got like 6 head crits with dark catalyst in a row.
WOOOOO

[longshot]

Sure, so long as we both agree and make it mutual.

Yes, we both agree that you know nothing. I'm glad you've come around.

[Widgets]

If you want to to role play, you should log into the game.

If you want to keep on sucking cock, please continue to post as your "persona."

What the fuck is wrong with you?

I am logged in the game, and I'm actually scripting my last 3 ranks of fletching. But thanks for jumping to conclusions and assuming things.

My name is Jay, there. I'm not posting as my "Persona". I just prefer to, in most online games, have my Forum Name reflect that of my character name. Causes less confusion in my eyes for people knowing who posted what etc.

[Widgets]

So.. since we're completely off topic from the threads original topic...

I just got like 6 head crits with dark catalyst in a row.
WOOOOO

Are you still in Vaalor?

...And yes, it does suck but as others have pointed out, 30 days isn't that bad of a ban.

[Anferis]

Yeah, are you my sorcerer-gnome-friend who ended up getting a mechanical crossbow and being a gnome rogue?

[Widgets]

Yeah, are you my sorcerer-gnome-friend who ended up getting a mechanical crossbow and being a gnome rogue?

Mayhaps

[Anferis]

I'll be back to Landing and RR soon enough. Just waiting to get some stuff from someone. Now that I've finished CoL I have no reason to stay in this crappy place.

[Tisket]

PM's are a cool feature here.

[TheEschaton]

Well, I've canceled my three accounts in the past week; I wish I could go back, recancel them with the comments: You people fucking suck at picking whose side to take.

I fucking want to put an arrow through Rocksand's left eye. My sniper has an itchy finger. Grrr.

-TheE-

[Widgets]

I'll be back to Landing and RR soon enough. Just waiting to get some stuff from someone. Now that I've finished CoL I have no reason to stay in this crappy place.

You should hit up the landing. I'm there now for a bit


Well, I've canceled my three accounts in the past week; I wish I could go back, recancel them with the comments: You people fucking suck at picking whose side to take.

I fucking want to put an arrow through Rocksand's left eye. My sniper has an itchy finger. Grrr.

Vif is pretty OOC alot of times. I think the problem is no one ever reported her for the crap she does.

[Anferis]

PM's are a cool feature here.

Yes they are. But I'm just taking this more and more offtopic since it's already there.


I'll probably stop in the Landing for a few days before I go to RR

[Snapp]

Nah I understand that, I however would like to think I'm not talking shit.

Find a post where I've called someone a name, then I'll go back and say I talked shit.

But so far, I'd like to think my posts are rather opinionated and constructive..Far from Talking shit.

Sorry if I wasn't clear... by talking shit, I meant stuff like this:


Says the one who trolls forums for a game they don't even play? Great comeback too I guess.

Sorry for assuming people who don't play Gemstone, tend to see the sunlight more often then or have better things to do than make posts in a Forum about current happenings to others in the game then.

I personally tend to not get involved with things like this if I'm not even involved in the game itself..I guess everyone has to pass time somehow

Yup you caught me, I know dick about dick. I'm such a worthless piece of shit whom has nothing better to do but call others on the internet names all while sitting behind a PC monitor...Oh wait, that's not me right now is it?
Those are all harsh words coming from member who appears to have joined yesterday.

[longshot]

Yes they are. But I'm just taking this more and more offtopic since it's already there.


I'll probably stop in the Landing for a few days before I go to RR

Take this to PMs.

There's no justification for this in any thread, even if you feel that the thread moved off topic.

[Anferis]

Okayy.

[Widgets]

Those are all harsh words coming from member who appears to have joined yesterday.

All in defense of myself I'd say, since I was not the one who slung the first mud pie, but I get what you're saying. If people can't take harsh words, then they shouldn't really start the train from the get go.

Anyhow, me and Bob have made up...And he is expected to give Birth in 9 months to our first child.

[Asha]

Harsh words are hot.
GZ on your baby. Welcome to PC 'noob'.

[longshot]

All in defense of myself I'd say, since I was not the one who slung the first mud pie, but I get what you're saying. If people can't take harsh words, then they shouldn't really start the train from the get go.



If people can't take harsh words?

Bob said your argument was shitty and that you were a retard. That's a "mud pie"? That makes you either 70 years old for using that expression, or 7 years old that you would get upset over it.

If that's enough to set you off to accuse someone of trolling when they clearly weren't, then you need to examine your own reactions to "harsh words."

Are your nips sensitive? Because you're acting like a real bitch.

[Stanley Burrell]

...Still this:


Dude. This is an online forum - people discuss shit on an online forum whether its a means to pass time or not. Most everyone here has played the game at one point or another - thats why they came here initially. The fact that some still post here even when they no longer play the game, combined with the presence of folders non-game related means that these people still like to communicate with those whom they became acquainted with when they did play... and new idiots like yourself.

If at 23 posts you feel that posting here is merely a means to pass the time then feel free to go waste elsewhere before you really start feeling long pangs of regret for such wasted time.

[Gan]

Should I log into my other account here? Would my larger post count, earlier registered date etc on that one make you feel any better?

Seriously...

No. The fact that you feel you must post under two seperate identities here clearly illustrates that you're a fucking idiot. The fact that you are trying to 'call people out' who post here and yet not play Gemstone even when you claim to have an older account (referencing the idea that you've been around here a while) is supremely indicitave that even with all of your PC experience - you still dont know what in the fuck you're talking about.

Let me reiterate what others have already said about you. You're a fucking retard.

[Widgets]

No. The fact that you feel you must post under two seperate identities here clearly illustrates that you're a fucking idiot. The fact that you are trying to 'call people out' who post here and yet not play Gemstone even when you claim to have an older account (referencing the idea that you've been around here a while) is supremely indicitave that even with all of your PC experience - you still dont know what in the fuck you're talking about.

Let me reiterate what others have already said about you. You're a fucking retard.

Oh well then. I'm glad that's what I am

[Bobmuhthol]

The effects of a new alias are amazing. For the record, had I bothered to look at who Widgets was beforehand, I wouldn't have made the original post.

[Tisket]

Well, Widget http://forum.gsplayers.com/member.php?u=4683 AIM screenname is the same as this guys: http://forum.gsplayers.com/member.php?u=399

[Tisket]

According to this anyway: http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?t=554&highlight=recoilsprung

[Tisket]

Sorry for three bumps in a row but I have to say, I'd have stuck with Gizmo, it's a much cooler name. And I don't recall it getting much negativity, nor was it created very long ago, so what was the point in the name change again?

"Gizmo" just has a nicer ring to it than "Widget" imo.

[Bobmuhthol]

<<nor was it created very long ago>>

May 2008 - July 2003 = 4 years 10 months

[Tisket]

<<nor was it created very long ago>>

May 2008 - July 2003 = 4 years 10 months

My bad, I thought I saw 2006 somewhere and didn't go recheck.

[Bobmuhthol]

Yeah, last activity date. Profiles have join date below, on the left side.

[Tisket]

It was the "last active" date that got stuck in my head.

[Snapp]

Join Date: 07-28-2003

I dunno, maybe only I see that in the profiles?

But yea, I wasn't even aware that was him. Detective Tisket!

[Tisket]

No everyone can see it Snapparoo, I just seem to have visual difficulties tonight.

[Tisket]

But yea, I wasn't even aware that was him. Detective Tisket!

Bob got it first.

[Bobmuhthol]

I have an unfair advantage; I've known him for years.

[Sean of the Thread]

This thread suddenly suck balls.

[Tisket]

Well tell him to go back to Gizmo. Far cooler name.

[Asha]

This thread suddenly suck balls.
^

[Asha]

Does Tisket just know shit everyone's shit?!
I'm amazed and scared.

[Widgets]

Sorry for three bumps in a row but I have to say, I'd have stuck with Gizmo, it's a much cooler name. And I don't recall it getting much negativity, nor was it created very long ago, so what was the point in the name change again?

"Gizmo" just has a nicer ring to it than "Widget" imo.

I likely forgot my old login to be honest. And you kind of reminded me about it, alot has changed in the past 5 years since it's been last logged on by that name.

Another reason for the name change is that as stated before, this name reflects directly the in-game name I go by in Prime now. I personally hate trying to remember crap like who "LeetDewd32892" plays in-game etc..This way is easier for me.

[Widgets]

Does Tisket just know shit everyone's shit?!
I'm amazed and scared.

A simple search for my SN was all she did. It just turned up a thread in which I posted the SN in under my much older login. And hell, even Gizmo wasn't my first PC login I'm sure of it..

[Jahira]

God GS sucks. Glad I am gone. 1 more point for not coming back

[Tisket]

A simple search for my SN was all she did. It just turned up a thread in which I posted the SN in under my much older login.

Yeah, it wasn't exactly rocket science.

[AestheticDeath]

<<As he was at keyboard, yes...But he was not controlling what was going on at all times, as you just said. His script was...Not once did Tayre enter any direct input method while healing, so thus he was not in control.>>

That is the shittiest argument I've ever heard. Retard.


The effects of a new alias are amazing. For the record, had I bothered to look at who Widgets was beforehand, I wouldn't have made the original post.

Which in all actuality makes you the retard, yeah? A statement doesn't stop being a shitty argument, just because it was an ex-friend rather than a newbie.

And to the argument on healing empaths vs lockpicking... They are totally different. Healing has HUGE advantages.

The real question though, is should things be equal? I don't think so. Even as much as I would love to be able to have every single skill and spell in the game.

That just ruins things. If you want to be able to heal yourself and others, hunt with the best of them, and pick your own boxs... roll up an empath.

(It's that as much as anything that makes empaths unfair, because they can do about any skill anyone else can, and have one of the most beneficial skills in the game to boot.) They should remove picking skills from non rogues. Or limit every profession to 1x in both disarm and picking.

I think to be equal, each profession needs its own unique niche. Not one that can be copied to a lesser extent. And then of course you would get into warriors being at the bottom end... Cause they suck at everything. Except making sheaths, woohoo?

[Khariz]

The real question though, is should things be equal? I don't think so. Even as much as I would love to be able to have every single skill and spell in the game.

That just ruins things.

:hug2:

[Bobmuhthol]

<<Which in all actuality makes you the retard, yeah? A statement doesn't stop being a shitty argument, just because it was an ex-friend rather than a newbie.>>

An ex-friend? Anyway, I didn't say "I wouldn't have thought the point sucked," retard.

[AestheticDeath]

Ah so you just kiss ass, and don't point out flaws in a friends argument.

Even if I am friends with someone, I can still point out that I don't agree with something they say or do.

[Bobmuhthol]

You're obviously too retarded to understand what I meant. I wouldn't call my friend a retard on a public message board.

[AestheticDeath]

OK retard. I guess I didn't understand what you meant, just what you posted.

[Drew2]

Yeah when I left this thread there were like 2 replies, haha.

So yeah I never said my script "accidently" went off. I think someone on OOC interpreted it that way and said that, but I think I said it "went off". My script can't "accidently" go off, that's stupid.


Furthermore, anyone who has JSE installed, PM me or IM me and I will be more than happy to share my script. In fact, I'll even help write one for Lich if you're so inclined.

If you can't beat 'em... get a bigger team.

[Bobmuhthol]

<<I guess I didn't understand what you meant, just what you posted.>>

Except you make wildly retarded assumptions and then pretend that slight ambiguity is an excuse to be a retard.

[AestheticDeath]

That wasn't wildly retarded at all. You specifically stated if you had known it who it was, you would not have made the post. You didn't say you would not have called him a name.

I took it to mean you wouldn't have made the post and said either of the things you said. Two statements, and now your backtracking trying to say one would have been fine, but not the other, even though they are both stated in the same post.

Say what you mean, otherwise people won't understand. Just because I didn't understand your flawed logic, doesn't mean my logical response is bad.

[Back]

Yeah when I left this thread there were like 2 replies, haha.

So yeah I never said my script "accidently" went off. I think someone on OOC interpreted it that way and said that, but I think I said it "went off". My script can't "accidently" go off, that's stupid.


Furthermore, anyone who has JSE installed, PM me or IM me and I will be more than happy to share my script. In fact, I'll even help write one for Lich if you're so inclined.

If you can't beat 'em... get a bigger team.

QQ. Buh-bye.


The Mavericks - Foolish Heart (http://www.foxytunes.com/artist/the+mavericks/track/foolish+heart)

[diethx]

QQ. Buh-bye.

Damn, how I wish we were all saying that to you.

[Asha]

Isn't everyone?

[Bobmuhthol]

<<I took it to mean you wouldn't have made the post and said either of the things you said. Two statements, and now your backtracking trying to say one would have been fine, but not the other, even though they are both stated in the same post.>>

I wouldn't have said the same thing, ie., "I would not have made the original post." Funny how something can make so much goddamn sense.

<<Just because I didn't understand your flawed logic, doesn't mean my logical response is bad.>>

Right, okay. jk, wrong

[Tisket]

Ah so you just kiss ass, and don't point out flaws in a friends argument.

Even if I am friends with someone, I can still point out that I don't agree with something they say or do.

I don't get why cutting a friend slack would be a bad thing. Or even need explanation really.

I sure the fuck hope a friend of mine wouldn't rush to call me out the moment I say something stupid. Which most of us have done.

[AestheticDeath]

It isn't so much cutting slack, or rushing to call someone out.

If a topic of discussion comes up, and several people are putting in their opinions, and newbie A and your friend both have a similar opinion differing from yours, would you try and correct the newbie but not your friend? Would you stay out of the discussion totally because you don't want to disagree with a friend? (I know several people who do that btw) Or would you address both people and state what you think and why.

I just find it ironic that someone would react so hatefully to someone they don't know and think is a newb, but would totally not say anything to a friend who said the same thing.

[Tisket]

I think I would try to be more diplomatic than normal probably, if I responded at all. The satisfaction of pointing out someone's mistake is outweighed by the need to show some tact if your friend posts the same mistake. I probably would not respond at all. There is always someone else who is willing to point out mistakes if you wait long enough.

[AestheticDeath]

That's weak. hehe (And I was talking more an opinion or something, not a mistake like misspelling a word or something.)

If your friend had a booger hanging out of their nose, would you point it out, or wait for them to figure it out on their own so you didn't get embarrassed?

Or something in their teeth etc..

[Tisket]

I would and have told friends they have a hygeine issue that needs attending to ASAP. I wouldn't do it in front of an audience though.

[Tisket]

I'm just not into shaming my friends. If you think that's weak...too bad.

[AestheticDeath]

Disagreeing with someone is shaming them?

[Tisket]

It can be depending on the method used. I did say I might point out a mistake but I'd try to do it tactfully. I wouldn't want to humiliate them though.

[Sean of the Thread]

I've lost soooo many great shaming pictures.

Here is one of the few I've got left hehehehehehe.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b236/Japgross/carrot.jpg

for the record that may or may not actually be inserted into the his actual anus depending on if you're going to tell on me or not.

[BigWorm]

I've lost soooo many great shaming pictures.

Here is one of the few I've got left hehehehehehe.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b236/Japgross/carrot.jpg

for the record that may or may not actually be inserted into the his actual anus depending on if you're going to tell on me or not.

Thats... a dude? I would assume walking around in the bunny costume was shame enough. The carrot is just adding insult to injury.

[Sean of the Thread]

Sadly he was a Marine also. However when you're a Marine you don't give a fuck what someone thinks about your playboy bunny Halloween costume. If someone has a problem with it ....it usually gets unproblemed real fast.

(yes I made unproblmeded.. call Webster and support my decision)


He's lucky all I could find was a carrot laying around.

[Sean of the Thread]

HA! I just noticed my boonie hat on top of the couch in the background. Good times indeed. WTF did I screw everything up with marriage.

[Khariz]

Woo


One last public thing for me... I'm sorry, Tayre, for your lockout. It wasn't my decision, and spent a good bit time arguing against it. I wanted to give you another chance, but I was overruled from up high (higher than Kia)... one of the many decisions I disagreed with.

Take care all.

-Lothwyn, as posted in Kia's retirement thread.

[Widgets]

Woo

Woo Woo!

[Kyra231]

Woo Woo!

Way to change your post right quick. Didn't care to bring down the shit storm on yourself? :rofl:

~K.

[Widgets]

Way to change your post right quick. Didn't care to bring down the shit storm on yourself? :rofl:

~K.

No, I posted that the quoted post was fake..About Loth quiting, since I never saw it on the officials, but I then changed it to "Woo Woo!" because I took into consideration that maybe it was deleted along with the other crap load of posts that seem to be missing.

I just didn't wanna act as if I was right, and then be wrong :)

[Khariz]

No, I posted that the quoted post was fake..About Loth quiting, since I never saw it on the officials, but I then changed it to "Woo Woo!" because I took into consideration that maybe it was deleted along with the other crap load of posts that seem to be missing.

I just didn't wanna act as if I was right, and then be wrong :)

Yeah, um, he posted it on THIS board...not the officials. Pay attention!