MrThorbizzle
12-29-2003, 07:30 AM
Snatched it from google's cache...lordscintillion's geocities site is no longer there...wtf?
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>SEND[Solomon] yup....hang tight
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You feel yourself being pulled away...
[Consultation Lounge]
Also in the room: GameMaster Bardon, GameMaster Solomon
Obvious exits: none.
>Solomon waves.
>waveYou wave.
>l bardonYou see GameMaster Bardon d'Erlyn the Human Wizard.
He appears to be in his 80's, has short, straight light brown hair, brown eyes, and tanned skin.
He is in good shape.
He is holding a big pile of duditude in his left hand.
He is wearing a glaes spider charm, a hooded grey weatherworn cloak, some reinforced leather with various straps and buckles, a leather sheath, a black leather backpack, a large sack, a black shield edged with golvern spikes, a silver chrysalis, some black leather pants, a silver-buckled belt, and some black combat boots.
>Bardon waves.
>Solomon says, "Greetings....sorry for the delay there..."
>'Greetings.You say, "Greetings."
>smileYou smile.
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>Solomon asks, "I'm assuming you know who our guest is, yes?"
>Solomon nods to Bardon.
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>'Mr. Whatley?You ask, "Mr. Whatley?"
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>Solomon nods.
>Solomon exclaims, "Point to you!"
>chuckleYou chuckle.
>Bardon squints.
>Solomon chuckles.
>l bardonYou see GameMaster Bardon d'Erlyn the Human Wizard.
He appears to be in his 80's, has short, straight light brown hair, brown eyes, and tanned skin.
He is in good shape.
He is holding a big pile of duditude in his left hand.
He is wearing a glaes spider charm, a hooded grey weatherworn cloak, some reinforced leather with various straps and buckles, a leather sheath, a black leather backpack, a large sack, a black shield edged with golvern spikes, a silver chrysalis, some black leather pants, a silver-buckled belt, and some black combat boots.
>Solomon says, "So...I've spent some time looking over this stuff..."
>'Yes?You ask, "Yes?"
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>Solomon says, "One moment....clearing out my office of some guests that don't know how to knock..."
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>Solomon says, "First, I wanted to make sure you were aware that the lockout that's in place now is NOT a result of the website..."
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>Solomon raises an eyebrow.
>'I understand, however, I have done my best to improve my behavior greatly over the past year..You say, "I understand, however, I have done my best to improve my behavior greatly over the past year.."
>Solomon nods.
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>'I've recieved very few warnings. At the time of this, there was not even an incident.You say, "I've recieved very few warnings. At the time of this, there was not even an incident."
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>'I have recieved to my knowledge 2 official warnings in the past over a year.You say, "I have recieved to my knowledge 2 official warnings in the past over a year."
>Solomon says, "Ok....I wanted to make sure that there was no confusion about the two separate situations..."
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>Solomon says, "Actually I think it's more like 7...I'm getting a copy of those warnings for you as we speak..."
>'7 over the course of my entire account I thought.You say, "7 over the course of my entire account I thought."
>Solomon says, "Yes....grand total..."
>Solomon nods.
>nodYou nod.
>'I am not excusing those actions.You say, "I am not excusing those actions."
>'I am merely saying that over the past good amount of time...You say, "I am merely saying that over the past good amount of time..."
>'Where I've spent over 3,000 hours...You say, "Where I've spent over 3,000 hours..."
>'I've altered my behavior greatly.You say, "I've altered my behavior greatly."
>Solomon nods.
>'And tried to remain within policy to the best of my ability...I have made a few mistakes..but overall I think I did a good job.You say, "And tried to remain within policy to the best of my ability...I have made a few mistakes..but overall I think I did a good job."
>Solomon says, "In addition to the in-game problems, there have been lockouts and warnings related to the message boards..."
>'I understand.You say, "I understand."
>nod solomonYou nod to Solomon.
>Solomon says, "So....given all of this information, I'm sure you're aware that we've locked out more people for a lot less..."
>'Again, when I came here...I honestly admit that I didn't know everything I know now about role-playing, how to conduct myself, or post messages...but over the time that Scintillion has been in existance, I feel that I've been very good.You say, "Again, when I came here...I honestly admit that I didn't know everything I know now about role-playing, how to conduct myself, or post messages...but over the time that Scintillion has been in existance, I feel that I've been very good."
>'Well...You say, "Well..."
>Solomon nods.
>'I suppose so, although I know no one gives out account information on what happened to others.You say, "I suppose so, although I know no one gives out account information on what happened to others."
>'In terms of Staff.You say, "In terms of Staff."
>'So all I have is heresay.You say, "So all I have is heresay."
>Solomon says, "Correct..."
>Solomon nods.
>Solomon says, "I can assure you it's true..."
>Solomon chuckles.
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>'I apologize for the past transgressions...but over the past year I have made a superb effort in altering my behavior greatly.You say, "I apologize for the past transgressions...but over the past year I have made a superb effort in altering my behavior greatly."
>Solomon asks, "At least, up until the point where Uncap and Nocap were being used for a little disruption?"
>'Nocap was not my character.You say, "Nocap was not my character."
>'Uncap was, however.You say, "Uncap was, however."
>'Nocap was a friend's character.You say, "Nocap was a friend's character."
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>'It was done at a moment of weakness...other than that..over the past year...I believe I slipped with a single curseword in a major sanct...You say, "It was done at a moment of weakness...other than that..over the past year...I believe I slipped with a single curseword in a major sanct..."
>'And I didn't intend to be disruptive...merely to have fun with the name.You say, "And I didn't intend to be disruptive...merely to have fun with the name."
>Solomon nods.
>'I honestly felt that it would be a unique role-playing opportunity, and perhaps a novel approach as to my future situation...a jest...not meant to harm anyone.You say, "I honestly felt that it would be a unique role-playing opportunity, and perhaps a novel approach as to my future situation...a jest...not meant to harm anyone."
>'I was never given a chance to explain any of that however. But I can see now how it would be interpreted as disruptive, but I didn't mean it like that. Again, I apologize.You say, "I was never given a chance to explain any of that however. But I can see now how it would be interpreted as disruptive, but I didn't mean it like that. Again, I apologize."
>Solomon nods.
>Solomon says, "Understood..."
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>Bardon says, "Let me jump in here..."
>Bardon says, "Now, normally, there is never any discussion about mitigating a perma-ban. And me getting involved is unprecidented...."
>nod bardYou nod to Bardon.
>'I do appreciate that you did regarding my case...thank you.You say, "I do appreciate that you did regarding my case...thank you."
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>Bardon says, "Well, in so far as the lockout stuff goes... I'm don't go around over-rueling my product managers. But..."
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>You nod.
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>'I appreciate your courtesy regarding this matter. It was quite an emotional issue for me.You say, "I appreciate your courtesy regarding this matter. It was quite an emotional issue for me."
>Bardon says, "There is this other matter going on that we want to get to bottom of. That of the gs3 freaks site. It's important to me. And, at the very least, it seems you either were involved or might know directly who was involved, we'd be willing to reconsider things if we can get that situation adequately investigated and those responsible own up to it."
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>Bardon says, "I know you've denied being involved up to now, and even forwarded an email from someone claiming to have done it..."
>Bardon says, "So I am up to speed on all that."
>'I recieved an e-mail from someone claiming to be the author of the website...and I forwarded it to melissac@simutronics.comYou say, "I recieved an e-mail from someone claiming to be the author of the website...and I forwarded it to melissac@simutronics.com"
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>You nod.
>'Indeed.You say, "Indeed."
>Solomon says, "I've been given a copy of that email..."
>'My knowledge regarding that site was limited...but I could only do as you asked and try to shed whatever light on it I could with that e-mail.You say, "My knowledge regarding that site was limited...but I could only do as you asked and try to shed whatever light on it I could with that e-mail."
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>Solomon says, "But frankly, I have to admit that I don't really buy into that theory, because that individual is banned himself. Had he truly made the site, my opinion would be that he would have attacked the game, or the GMs themselves. This website in question attacked the players themselves.\"
>Solomon says, "He's got nothing to lose by claiming to have made that site"
>Solomon says, "He shoudl have no ill will towards the players"
>'As I said, my knowledge of the issue was limited. Many speculations circulated. As far as his motivation, I can only guess.You say, "As I said, my knowledge of the issue was limited. Many speculations circulated. As far as his motivation, I can only guess."
>Solomon says, "He should care nothing about an age cap..."
>Solomon says, "Nothing on his list of complaints should even matter to him...many of them are recent issues I think, particularly the age cap matter"
>'I had visited the site a few times, and it was quite abbrasive. I contacted friends through Ims and e-mails to see if I could come up with who was responsible...it was then I recieved his letter.You say, "I had visited the site a few times, and it was quite abbrasive. I contacted friends through Ims and e-mails to see if I could come up with who was responsible...it was then I recieved his letter."
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>'Several of my friends including myself were insulted on the website...from what I saw. As to the motivation of the creator, one could only guess. I haven't a clue.You say, "Several of my friends including myself were insulted on the website...from what I saw. As to the motivation of the creator, one could only guess. I haven't a clue."
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>Solomon says, "Now....moving on to the actual issues on the Top 10 worst problems in GS...I find it interesting that the items are listed almost in order, and almost verbatim from something you recently wrote..."
>Solomon says, "The Profession guide you wrote mentioned every single issue in the top 10...."
>Solomon says, "And as I said...many of them were almost word for word..."
>'I don't know what to tell you. The Profession guide I wrote...which was posted on a friend's website (Kilwich and Geki) was available to anyone with access to the Internet. Perhaps the creator copied the information and used it for the website.You say, "I don't know what to tell you. The Profession guide I wrote...which was posted on a friend's website (Kilwich and Geki) was available to anyone with access to the Internet. Perhaps the creator copied the information and used it for the website."
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>Bardon says, "One thing to understand...."
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>'It's not logical...that someone would devote so much time, effort, and energy to this game...if they hated it or hated the players in it so much...and I certainly have not the time, interest, nor motivation to make a hateful GemStone site.You say, "It's not logical...that someone would devote so much time, effort, and energy to this game...if they hated it or hated the players in it so much...and I certainly have not the time, interest, nor motivation to make a hateful GemStone site."
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>Bardon says, "We can't imagine anyone having the interest or motivation to do that. But the fact remains that it was done..."
>'I've been one of GemStone's most ardent supporters. I've actually recruited people to play...I wouldn't do anything to undermine the game like that. It would be self-defeating.You say, "I've been one of GemStone's most ardent supporters. I've actually recruited people to play...I wouldn't do anything to undermine the game like that. It would be self-defeating."
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>Bardon says, "And after careful review of its content, it has your "fingerprints" (so to speak) all over it. Which leads us to the conclusion that you were either (A) behind it (B) framed for it (C) contributed only parts to it (like maybe the inocuious top 10 list)."
>'Yes, it was done...and most assuredly, not by me.You say, "Yes, it was done...and most assuredly, not by me."
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>'As I said...anyone could have copied information from either my Rogue Guide or message board posts and used it on the site.You say, "As I said...anyone could have copied information from either my Rogue Guide or message board posts and used it on the site."
>Bardon asks, "Sure. But why?"
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>'Perhaps the creator or one of the creators disliked me...or wanted to frame me. Once information is posted on the web it's out of my hands. There's no reason for me to create a site like that. You ask why, and I ask, why would I do something like that?You ask, "Perhaps the creator or one of the creators disliked me...or wanted to frame me. Once information is posted on the web it's out of my hands. There's no reason for me to create a site like that. You ask why, and I ask, why would I do something like that?"
>Bardon asks, "There was a picture of you on that site, right?"
>'If I was genuinely involved in that website...and was that unhappy with GemStone..or players in GemStone...I'd quit. I wouldn't be making such an effort to reclaim my character.You say, "If I was genuinely involved in that website...and was that unhappy with GemStone..or players in GemStone...I'd quit. I wouldn't be making such an effort to reclaim my character."
>'Yes there was, a picture I sent out to several people...it was taken of me in St. Louis during the weekend of Simucon 2001.You say, "Yes there was, a picture I sent out to several people...it was taken of me in St. Louis during the weekend of Simucon 2001."
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>The silvery luminescence fades from around you.
>Bardon asks, "yea?"
>Bardon asks, "Where?"
>'It wasn't taken at the hotel but at the Missouri Bottanical (SP?) Gardens...by my dad, when we were visiting it.You say, "It wasn't taken at the hotel but at the Missouri Bottanical (SP?) Gardens...by my dad, when we were visiting it."
>Bardon asks, "You're dad?"
>nodYou nod.
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>'My father in real life. He was visiting St. Louis the same weekend. He didn't attend Simucon though. He was just taking the vacation with me.You say, "My father in real life. He was visiting St. Louis the same weekend. He didn't attend Simucon though. He was just taking the vacation with me."
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>Bardon says, "Now, of course, of all the pictures on that site were verifiable Simucon pictures that anyone had access to ont he net... save two."
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>Bardon says, "Yours and one other. That other, we know how it could have gotten there."
>Bardon says, "And, of course, yours was in the complementry section of the site."
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>Bardon says, "Seems like someone who likes you more than dislikes you. :)"
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>'Exactly...but once I sent out my picture...or posted my guide...it's available to anyone. Which came from Simucon and which didn't I don't know...but as far as the content of the site...it was very readily available.You say, "Exactly...but once I sent out my picture...or posted my guide...it's available to anyone. Which came from Simucon and which didn't I don't know...but as far as the content of the site...it was very readily available."
>Bardon says, "After exhaustive research, that photo turned up nowhere else at the time."
>Bardon says, "The others were trivial to pin point."
>'As I said, I sent the picture out to several people. Anyone could have saved, or mailed it to anyone else. I have no way of knowing any of that information.You say, "As I said, I sent the picture out to several people. Anyone could have saved, or mailed it to anyone else. I have no way of knowing any of that information."
>Bardon says, "So what you are saying then is..."
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>Bardon asks, "Someone out there created this site. But they snatched your GS3 hot button gripes (from the guide) and put them on the front page (instead of their own gripes). Then they also got ahold of that picture only sent out privately (by email, not in all the various Simucon picture sites) by you and put it in the GS Hunks area of the site?"
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>'No, I'm saying I don't know who or what the particulars are regarding this site. All of the "information" that points to me as the author, is speculation and rumor.You say, "No, I'm saying I don't know who or what the particulars are regarding this site. All of the "information" that points to me as the author, is speculation and rumor."
>'However, it's not too logical that I would hurt myself. Nor my friends.You say, "However, it's not too logical that I would hurt myself. Nor my friends."
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>'Why would someone name me "King Arse" and a Hunk, unless they wanted to splatter my fingerprints all over this site...You say, "Why would someone name me "King Arse" and a Hunk, unless they wanted to splatter my fingerprints all over this site..."
>'Plus, from what you say, copy things that I wrote in MY guide.You say, "Plus, from what you say, copy things that I wrote in MY guide."
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>'Perhaps they agreed with some of the things I said, but didn't particularly like me too much. I honestly have no way of knowing any better than you do. As I said, the speculation and rumor isn't fair.You say, "Perhaps they agreed with some of the things I said, but didn't particularly like me too much. I honestly have no way of knowing any better than you do. As I said, the speculation and rumor isn't fair."
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>'And, again, as I've said before, the motivation just isn't there for me to do that. If you look at who spent MORE time in GemStone than anyone last year, it's a safe bet that that person would be me. This is an extremely emotional issue to me, and I'm shocked by this.You say, "And, again, as I've said before, the motivation just isn't there for me to do that. If you look at who spent MORE time in GemStone than anyone last year, it's a safe bet that that person would be me. This is an extremely emotional issue to me, and I'm shocked by this."
>Bardon says, "Well, we certainly have our theories on who was involved. But we'd rather know for certain. Which, is of course, why I had hoped you'd have some revelation for us to work with here."
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>Bardon says, "I can understand many reasons why you'd not want to be more forthcoming. But it's the reason I'm here at all."
>'All I can do is work with the same speculation and rumor that you can. I have no way of verifying the truth from anyone.You say, "All I can do is work with the same speculation and rumor that you can. I have no way of verifying the truth from anyone."
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>Bardon says, "Seems obvious you are close to the situation. Even if someone did this to "get you" then that still puts you close to the situation. So what I'm here to see is if you'd be able to go out and think about this and see if you can come back with something helpful for us."
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>"It makes no sense, unless someone wanted to get me in hot water. That someone would copy from my guide, name me as King Arse, insult my friends, and name me as a Hunk or whatever...all on the same website, unless they had a grudge against me. And chances are, they won't be the first person jumping up and down trying to help me get out of the situation I'm in now for something I DIDN'T DO. You say, "It makes no sense, unless someone wanted to get me in hot water. That someone would copy from my guide, name me as King Arse, insult my friends, and name me as a Hunk or whatever...all on the same website, unless they had a grudge against me. And chances are, they won't be the first person jumping up and down trying to help me get out of the situation I'm in now for something I DIDN'T DO. "
>'I've done EVERYTHING in my power to find out who was responsible, I even got an e-mail from someone claiming to be the author...what more could I do? I've done everything I can to help you.You say, "I've done EVERYTHING in my power to find out who was responsible, I even got an e-mail from someone claiming to be the author...what more could I do? I've done everything I can to help you."
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>Bardon says, "Well, like I said, I had held out hope that you'd have more to reveal ont he subject. It was worth a shot."
>Solomon nods to Bardon.
>'I apologize for my apparant ignorance.You say, "I apologize for my apparant ignorance."
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>'I've offered what I can on the issue. From facts, to rumors, to speculation.You say, "I've offered what I can on the issue. From facts, to rumors, to speculation."
>Bardon says, "If you are unwilling to give it further consideration, we won't bother you about it further. On the ohter hand, if you come up with something genuinely useful before we conclude our own investigation, we'd be willing to consider some good old fashion horse-trading."
>'Could you please explain what you mean?You ask, "Could you please explain what you mean?"
>Solomon says, "Any of that information can be sent to any of the email addresses you've already got....either mine, Llearyn's, or Feedback."
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>Bardon says, "Like I said in the beginning"
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>'All I can offer at this point that is tangible, is the confession e-mail of the alleged creator. It would be impossible for me to do a 100% accurate investigation without a court order against the website provider.You say, "All I can offer at this point that is tangible, is the confession e-mail of the alleged creator. It would be impossible for me to do a 100% accurate investigation without a court order against the website provider."
>Bardon says, "Like I said, I was thinking you might have more in your back pocket already."
>'I lack the ability to get further information. All I would be able to offer is more rumor and speculation.You say, "I lack the ability to get further information. All I would be able to offer is more rumor and speculation."
>Bardon says, "I hear ya."
>'I mean honestly, if you don't accept a confession e-mail from someone...what do you want me to do?You ask, "I mean honestly, if you don't accept a confession e-mail from someone...what do you want me to do?"
>'I've done everything in my power to help and willingly so, but I wasn't responsible, don't know who was for certain. All I have to go by is what people tell me.You say, "I've done everything in my power to help and willingly so, but I wasn't responsible, don't know who was for certain. All I have to go by is what people tell me."
>Bardon says, "Well, we've been in the buiz a long time.... we got a wall of fake confession emails; even one claiming to be from a dog who had taken over his master's character and got him locked out. :)"
>'I don't know what to say to that one.You say, "I don't know what to say to that one."
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>'And I have no proof that his confession was fake.You say, "And I have no proof that his confession was fake."
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>Bardon says, "Here's what I think"
>'No one knows anything for sure. As I said, I couldn't do a 100% accurate investigation without a court order against the website provider...You say, "No one knows anything for sure. As I said, I couldn't do a 100% accurate investigation without a court order against the website provider..."
>Solomon says, "I could easily create a Hotmail or Yahoo account and email you to claim responsibility...anyone could. We're just saying that an emailed confession isn't something that will close the matter."
>Bardon says, "let me just say this"
>'Well, what will "close the matter"? Just as easily as someone could create an account and email me to claim responsibility, someone could have written the website and framed me for it.You say, "Well, what will "close the matter"? Just as easily as someone could create an account and email me to claim responsibility, someone could have written the website and framed me for it."
Bardon says, "We may never get to the bottom of this...."
>Bardon says, "But, just being hypothetical here for a moment...."
>Bardon says, "If a site were to appear that seemed to be a genuine admission, recanting and apology to all those harmed in the original one; equal in scope to the first.... such a thing might go a long way."
>Bardon says, "That's the kind of thing we want to end up with int he end."
>'So, if I could get someone who admitted to writing the website to create another site and apologize to everyone harmed, then what?You ask, "So, if I could get someone who admitted to writing the website to create another site and apologize to everyone harmed, then what?"
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>Bardon says, "If you got that to happen, in a way that equaled the offense to begin with.... we'd be doing us a big favor. And we'd be willing to factor that into the issue related to the lock-out. We return big favors."
>'I will speak with the person who confessed...I am sure he would be willing to do this, as, I believe he was responsible, and he told me that he didn't want me to be held responsible for something I obviously didn't do, or have any part in.You say, "I will speak with the person who confessed...I am sure he would be willing to do this, as, I believe he was responsible, and he told me that he didn't want me to be held responsible for something I obviously didn't do, or have any part in."
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>Bardon says, "Like we said, we really put no stock in that guy being at all responsible to begin with. But think about it for awhile. I care less about who did all this than, from a personal standpoint, seeing that some amends are made."
>Bardon says, "Some of those people most attacked are friends of mine, you see."
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>'As they are mine.You say, "As they are mine."
>Bardon says, "Then you know where I'm coming from. :)"
>Bardon says, "Well thats my hypothetical speech for the day. I'm due at a meeting, so I'm going to have to split."
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>Solomon says, "I'll handle from here, David..."
>Bardon bows to Solomon.
>Bardon waves.
>'One question.You say, "One question."
>Solomon bows to Bardon.
>Bardon just left.
>Solomon says, "Sure....shoot"
>'I will create an apology website, even though I had nothing to do with it. I'd like to set the record straight about my friends, and that I am NOT King Arse.You say, "I will create an apology website, even though I had nothing to do with it. I'd like to set the record straight about my friends, and that I am NOT King Arse."
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>Solomon nods.
>Solomon says, "Ok..."
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>'I can't really disagree about the hunk part though.You say, "I can't really disagree about the hunk part though."
>winkYou wink.
>'Would that suffice?You ask, "Would that suffice?"
>Solomon says, "A denial site isn't what we're looking for though....that's already been attempted..."
>'No, not a denial site.You say, "No, not a denial site."
>Solomon nods.
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>'If I created a site and took the rap for this whole thing, even though I had nothing to do with it.You say, "If I created a site and took the rap for this whole thing, even though I had nothing to do with it."
>'No one would know the difference. But they would have amends and apologies.You say, "No one would know the difference. But they would have amends and apologies."
>'Would that suffice?You ask, "Would that suffice?"
>'Or perhaps some community service in Gemstone, being a mentor, or something.You say, "Or perhaps some community service in Gemstone, being a mentor, or something."
>Solomon says, "Ok...I will simply repeat what David said...it would definitely go a long way toward helping your OTHER situation with the lockout..."
>Solomon says, "But yes...I can say that if you took responsibility for the site and it wasn't a "I'm doing this cause they're making me"....it would go a long way"
>'No, nothing like that.You say, "No, nothing like that."
>Solomon says, "Nor would it be a good idea to accept responsibility in one place and deny it in another....say....via email, the message boards, or even alternate boards on other websites..."
>'How about I claim responsibility on a website...You say, "How about I claim responsibility on a website..."
>'Say that all past denials were false...and have it be sort of the "Bottom Line" type deal.You say, "Say that all past denials were false...and have it be sort of the "Bottom Line" type deal."
>'And from then forward...just accept responsibility I suppose...You say, "And from then forward...just accept responsibility I suppose..."
>Solomon says, "I think that would be a good move..."
>Solomon nods.
>'What are the chances of having my character restored, everything looked at from a favorable perspective. Considering what we've discussed, and my alleged admission, and apologetic website...where do I stand at this point?You ask, "What are the chances of having my character restored, everything looked at from a favorable perspective. Considering what we've discussed, and my alleged admission, and apologetic website...where do I stand at this point?"
>Solomon asks, "As in removal from the lockout for excessive warnings?"
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>'Indeed.You say, "Indeed."
>Solomon nods.
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>Solomon says, "In other cases where we've made arrangements with players who are permanently locked out, that has varied....the usual reduction is from perm down to 6 months...now...with time served and depending on the site and all, I can't *promise*, but I can certainly see how it would be taken into account on David's level and it could very well be reduced to a shorter time period"
>Solomon says, "So.....at MOST, we'd be looking at 5 months, but again, David can clearly make that number smaller at his discretion...."
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>'What about..say..immediate re-instatement, considering that the site is..top-notch, very apologetic, and even moreso than the other site was damaging.You say, "What about..say..immediate re-instatement, considering that the site is..top-notch, very apologetic, and even moreso than the other site was damaging."
>Solomon says, "I can push that I think....however you would return under HMC status for 6 months...after that, if you remained clean for that period of time, you'd go back to square one..."
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>'Square one being?You ask, "Square one being?"
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>Solomon says, "During that 6 months, any warning or problems, even on non-official sites, would result in reinstatement of the original sentence....back to square one would be the understanding that time was served and future problems would be dealt with more leniency, given that most of your total warnings were in the past..."
>Solomon says, "You'd basically have 6-12 months of "good credit" built up at that point...which would go a long way toward keeping you from serious lockouts for minor problems like you've had before this...."
>'So, if I write a website apologizing, make it very well-written, have no warnings or problems for 6 months, I will be...right back to where I was when this whole episode started?You ask, "So, if I write a website apologizing, make it very well-written, have no warnings or problems for 6 months, I will be...right back to where I was when this whole episode started?"
>Solomon says, "With the addition of the HMC status for 6 months....yes"
>'And also be in considerably good standing at that point, yes?You ask, "And also be in considerably good standing at that point, yes?"
>Solomon says, "Plus you will have already served 1 month of a lockout....so yes, you'd have a relatively clear record at that point...."
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>'If I start now, I could probably write an apologetic website in a few hours, I could probably finish it today.You say, "If I start now, I could probably write an apologetic website in a few hours, I could probably finish it today."
>Solomon says, "I'm not sure how they hold past violations against you here, but I get the impression that time served results in a much cleaner slate"
>Solomon nods.
>'Which means, I could be re-instated tommorrow, or, later tonight?You ask, "Which means, I could be re-instated tommorrow, or, later tonight?"
>Solomon says, "You're welcome to drop me a note when you get something put together and I'll make sure it gets circulated to the right folks...."
>Solomon says, "Yes...that would be entirely possible..."
>Solomon says, "MOst likely the earliest would be tomorrow, since we're getting close to closing time here at the office..."
>'One other thing...You say, "One other thing..."
>Solomon nods.
>'Let's say I get all this done..and re-instated..You say, "Let's say I get all this done..and re-instated.."
>Solomon nods.
>'Will I have to change my character name, reroll, do anything of the sort?You ask, "Will I have to change my character name, reroll, do anything of the sort?"
>Solomon says, "Not to my knowledge...."
>Solomon says, "I've never heard of anything like that happening"
>'Ok.You say, "Ok."
>Solomon says, "Sounds like a plan to me, then...."
>'I guarentee that I will finish it tonight.You say, "I guarentee that I will finish it tonight."
>'Do we have a deal then?You ask, "Do we have a deal then?"
>Solomon says, "Sounds like it to me..."
>Solomon nods.
'I will e-mail you the URL at your e-mail address tonight.>You say, "I will e-mail you the URL at your e-mail address tonight."
>Solomon nods.
>'What time can we talk tommorrow?You ask, "What time can we talk tommorrow?"
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>Solomon says, "I'll have to email you when the site is reviewed and let you know. I've got a couple meetings but not sure how long they'll last...most likely around the same time, would be a good bet though"
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>'Alright, I will be here. I'll get started on this site right away...and do it on Geocities too..since I believe the other site was on it as well.You say, "Alright, I will be here. I'll get started on this site right away...and do it on Geocities too..since I believe the other site was on it as well."
>Solomon nods.
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>Solomon says, "Sounds good to me....let me get you back in the pen for now..."
>Solomon says, "I appreciate your time this evening..."
>Solomon bows to you.
>'And I yours.You say, "And I yours."
>bow solomonYou bow to Solomon.
>
You feel yourself being pulled away...
[The Cell]
Obvious exits: none.
>quit
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[The Cell]
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>SEND[Solomon] yup....hang tight
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You feel yourself being pulled away...
[Consultation Lounge]
Also in the room: GameMaster Bardon, GameMaster Solomon
Obvious exits: none.
>Solomon waves.
>waveYou wave.
>l bardonYou see GameMaster Bardon d'Erlyn the Human Wizard.
He appears to be in his 80's, has short, straight light brown hair, brown eyes, and tanned skin.
He is in good shape.
He is holding a big pile of duditude in his left hand.
He is wearing a glaes spider charm, a hooded grey weatherworn cloak, some reinforced leather with various straps and buckles, a leather sheath, a black leather backpack, a large sack, a black shield edged with golvern spikes, a silver chrysalis, some black leather pants, a silver-buckled belt, and some black combat boots.
>Bardon waves.
>Solomon says, "Greetings....sorry for the delay there..."
>'Greetings.You say, "Greetings."
>smileYou smile.
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>Solomon asks, "I'm assuming you know who our guest is, yes?"
>Solomon nods to Bardon.
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>'Mr. Whatley?You ask, "Mr. Whatley?"
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>Solomon nods.
>Solomon exclaims, "Point to you!"
>chuckleYou chuckle.
>Bardon squints.
>Solomon chuckles.
>l bardonYou see GameMaster Bardon d'Erlyn the Human Wizard.
He appears to be in his 80's, has short, straight light brown hair, brown eyes, and tanned skin.
He is in good shape.
He is holding a big pile of duditude in his left hand.
He is wearing a glaes spider charm, a hooded grey weatherworn cloak, some reinforced leather with various straps and buckles, a leather sheath, a black leather backpack, a large sack, a black shield edged with golvern spikes, a silver chrysalis, some black leather pants, a silver-buckled belt, and some black combat boots.
>Solomon says, "So...I've spent some time looking over this stuff..."
>'Yes?You ask, "Yes?"
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>Solomon says, "One moment....clearing out my office of some guests that don't know how to knock..."
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>Solomon says, "First, I wanted to make sure you were aware that the lockout that's in place now is NOT a result of the website..."
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>Solomon raises an eyebrow.
>'I understand, however, I have done my best to improve my behavior greatly over the past year..You say, "I understand, however, I have done my best to improve my behavior greatly over the past year.."
>Solomon nods.
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>'I've recieved very few warnings. At the time of this, there was not even an incident.You say, "I've recieved very few warnings. At the time of this, there was not even an incident."
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>'I have recieved to my knowledge 2 official warnings in the past over a year.You say, "I have recieved to my knowledge 2 official warnings in the past over a year."
>Solomon says, "Ok....I wanted to make sure that there was no confusion about the two separate situations..."
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>Solomon says, "Actually I think it's more like 7...I'm getting a copy of those warnings for you as we speak..."
>'7 over the course of my entire account I thought.You say, "7 over the course of my entire account I thought."
>Solomon says, "Yes....grand total..."
>Solomon nods.
>nodYou nod.
>'I am not excusing those actions.You say, "I am not excusing those actions."
>'I am merely saying that over the past good amount of time...You say, "I am merely saying that over the past good amount of time..."
>'Where I've spent over 3,000 hours...You say, "Where I've spent over 3,000 hours..."
>'I've altered my behavior greatly.You say, "I've altered my behavior greatly."
>Solomon nods.
>'And tried to remain within policy to the best of my ability...I have made a few mistakes..but overall I think I did a good job.You say, "And tried to remain within policy to the best of my ability...I have made a few mistakes..but overall I think I did a good job."
>Solomon says, "In addition to the in-game problems, there have been lockouts and warnings related to the message boards..."
>'I understand.You say, "I understand."
>nod solomonYou nod to Solomon.
>Solomon says, "So....given all of this information, I'm sure you're aware that we've locked out more people for a lot less..."
>'Again, when I came here...I honestly admit that I didn't know everything I know now about role-playing, how to conduct myself, or post messages...but over the time that Scintillion has been in existance, I feel that I've been very good.You say, "Again, when I came here...I honestly admit that I didn't know everything I know now about role-playing, how to conduct myself, or post messages...but over the time that Scintillion has been in existance, I feel that I've been very good."
>'Well...You say, "Well..."
>Solomon nods.
>'I suppose so, although I know no one gives out account information on what happened to others.You say, "I suppose so, although I know no one gives out account information on what happened to others."
>'In terms of Staff.You say, "In terms of Staff."
>'So all I have is heresay.You say, "So all I have is heresay."
>Solomon says, "Correct..."
>Solomon nods.
>Solomon says, "I can assure you it's true..."
>Solomon chuckles.
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>'I apologize for the past transgressions...but over the past year I have made a superb effort in altering my behavior greatly.You say, "I apologize for the past transgressions...but over the past year I have made a superb effort in altering my behavior greatly."
>Solomon asks, "At least, up until the point where Uncap and Nocap were being used for a little disruption?"
>'Nocap was not my character.You say, "Nocap was not my character."
>'Uncap was, however.You say, "Uncap was, however."
>'Nocap was a friend's character.You say, "Nocap was a friend's character."
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>'It was done at a moment of weakness...other than that..over the past year...I believe I slipped with a single curseword in a major sanct...You say, "It was done at a moment of weakness...other than that..over the past year...I believe I slipped with a single curseword in a major sanct..."
>'And I didn't intend to be disruptive...merely to have fun with the name.You say, "And I didn't intend to be disruptive...merely to have fun with the name."
>Solomon nods.
>'I honestly felt that it would be a unique role-playing opportunity, and perhaps a novel approach as to my future situation...a jest...not meant to harm anyone.You say, "I honestly felt that it would be a unique role-playing opportunity, and perhaps a novel approach as to my future situation...a jest...not meant to harm anyone."
>'I was never given a chance to explain any of that however. But I can see now how it would be interpreted as disruptive, but I didn't mean it like that. Again, I apologize.You say, "I was never given a chance to explain any of that however. But I can see now how it would be interpreted as disruptive, but I didn't mean it like that. Again, I apologize."
>Solomon nods.
>Solomon says, "Understood..."
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>Bardon says, "Let me jump in here..."
>Bardon says, "Now, normally, there is never any discussion about mitigating a perma-ban. And me getting involved is unprecidented...."
>nod bardYou nod to Bardon.
>'I do appreciate that you did regarding my case...thank you.You say, "I do appreciate that you did regarding my case...thank you."
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>Bardon says, "Well, in so far as the lockout stuff goes... I'm don't go around over-rueling my product managers. But..."
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>You nod.
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>'I appreciate your courtesy regarding this matter. It was quite an emotional issue for me.You say, "I appreciate your courtesy regarding this matter. It was quite an emotional issue for me."
>Bardon says, "There is this other matter going on that we want to get to bottom of. That of the gs3 freaks site. It's important to me. And, at the very least, it seems you either were involved or might know directly who was involved, we'd be willing to reconsider things if we can get that situation adequately investigated and those responsible own up to it."
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>Bardon says, "I know you've denied being involved up to now, and even forwarded an email from someone claiming to have done it..."
>Bardon says, "So I am up to speed on all that."
>'I recieved an e-mail from someone claiming to be the author of the website...and I forwarded it to melissac@simutronics.comYou say, "I recieved an e-mail from someone claiming to be the author of the website...and I forwarded it to melissac@simutronics.com"
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>You nod.
>'Indeed.You say, "Indeed."
>Solomon says, "I've been given a copy of that email..."
>'My knowledge regarding that site was limited...but I could only do as you asked and try to shed whatever light on it I could with that e-mail.You say, "My knowledge regarding that site was limited...but I could only do as you asked and try to shed whatever light on it I could with that e-mail."
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>Solomon says, "But frankly, I have to admit that I don't really buy into that theory, because that individual is banned himself. Had he truly made the site, my opinion would be that he would have attacked the game, or the GMs themselves. This website in question attacked the players themselves.\"
>Solomon says, "He's got nothing to lose by claiming to have made that site"
>Solomon says, "He shoudl have no ill will towards the players"
>'As I said, my knowledge of the issue was limited. Many speculations circulated. As far as his motivation, I can only guess.You say, "As I said, my knowledge of the issue was limited. Many speculations circulated. As far as his motivation, I can only guess."
>Solomon says, "He should care nothing about an age cap..."
>Solomon says, "Nothing on his list of complaints should even matter to him...many of them are recent issues I think, particularly the age cap matter"
>'I had visited the site a few times, and it was quite abbrasive. I contacted friends through Ims and e-mails to see if I could come up with who was responsible...it was then I recieved his letter.You say, "I had visited the site a few times, and it was quite abbrasive. I contacted friends through Ims and e-mails to see if I could come up with who was responsible...it was then I recieved his letter."
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>'Several of my friends including myself were insulted on the website...from what I saw. As to the motivation of the creator, one could only guess. I haven't a clue.You say, "Several of my friends including myself were insulted on the website...from what I saw. As to the motivation of the creator, one could only guess. I haven't a clue."
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>Solomon says, "Now....moving on to the actual issues on the Top 10 worst problems in GS...I find it interesting that the items are listed almost in order, and almost verbatim from something you recently wrote..."
>Solomon says, "The Profession guide you wrote mentioned every single issue in the top 10...."
>Solomon says, "And as I said...many of them were almost word for word..."
>'I don't know what to tell you. The Profession guide I wrote...which was posted on a friend's website (Kilwich and Geki) was available to anyone with access to the Internet. Perhaps the creator copied the information and used it for the website.You say, "I don't know what to tell you. The Profession guide I wrote...which was posted on a friend's website (Kilwich and Geki) was available to anyone with access to the Internet. Perhaps the creator copied the information and used it for the website."
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>Bardon says, "One thing to understand...."
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>
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>'It's not logical...that someone would devote so much time, effort, and energy to this game...if they hated it or hated the players in it so much...and I certainly have not the time, interest, nor motivation to make a hateful GemStone site.You say, "It's not logical...that someone would devote so much time, effort, and energy to this game...if they hated it or hated the players in it so much...and I certainly have not the time, interest, nor motivation to make a hateful GemStone site."
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>Bardon says, "We can't imagine anyone having the interest or motivation to do that. But the fact remains that it was done..."
>'I've been one of GemStone's most ardent supporters. I've actually recruited people to play...I wouldn't do anything to undermine the game like that. It would be self-defeating.You say, "I've been one of GemStone's most ardent supporters. I've actually recruited people to play...I wouldn't do anything to undermine the game like that. It would be self-defeating."
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>Bardon says, "And after careful review of its content, it has your "fingerprints" (so to speak) all over it. Which leads us to the conclusion that you were either (A) behind it (B) framed for it (C) contributed only parts to it (like maybe the inocuious top 10 list)."
>'Yes, it was done...and most assuredly, not by me.You say, "Yes, it was done...and most assuredly, not by me."
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>'As I said...anyone could have copied information from either my Rogue Guide or message board posts and used it on the site.You say, "As I said...anyone could have copied information from either my Rogue Guide or message board posts and used it on the site."
>Bardon asks, "Sure. But why?"
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>'Perhaps the creator or one of the creators disliked me...or wanted to frame me. Once information is posted on the web it's out of my hands. There's no reason for me to create a site like that. You ask why, and I ask, why would I do something like that?You ask, "Perhaps the creator or one of the creators disliked me...or wanted to frame me. Once information is posted on the web it's out of my hands. There's no reason for me to create a site like that. You ask why, and I ask, why would I do something like that?"
>Bardon asks, "There was a picture of you on that site, right?"
>'If I was genuinely involved in that website...and was that unhappy with GemStone..or players in GemStone...I'd quit. I wouldn't be making such an effort to reclaim my character.You say, "If I was genuinely involved in that website...and was that unhappy with GemStone..or players in GemStone...I'd quit. I wouldn't be making such an effort to reclaim my character."
>'Yes there was, a picture I sent out to several people...it was taken of me in St. Louis during the weekend of Simucon 2001.You say, "Yes there was, a picture I sent out to several people...it was taken of me in St. Louis during the weekend of Simucon 2001."
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>The silvery luminescence fades from around you.
>Bardon asks, "yea?"
>Bardon asks, "Where?"
>'It wasn't taken at the hotel but at the Missouri Bottanical (SP?) Gardens...by my dad, when we were visiting it.You say, "It wasn't taken at the hotel but at the Missouri Bottanical (SP?) Gardens...by my dad, when we were visiting it."
>Bardon asks, "You're dad?"
>nodYou nod.
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>'My father in real life. He was visiting St. Louis the same weekend. He didn't attend Simucon though. He was just taking the vacation with me.You say, "My father in real life. He was visiting St. Louis the same weekend. He didn't attend Simucon though. He was just taking the vacation with me."
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>Bardon says, "Now, of course, of all the pictures on that site were verifiable Simucon pictures that anyone had access to ont he net... save two."
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>Bardon says, "Yours and one other. That other, we know how it could have gotten there."
>Bardon says, "And, of course, yours was in the complementry section of the site."
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>Bardon says, "Seems like someone who likes you more than dislikes you. :)"
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>'Exactly...but once I sent out my picture...or posted my guide...it's available to anyone. Which came from Simucon and which didn't I don't know...but as far as the content of the site...it was very readily available.You say, "Exactly...but once I sent out my picture...or posted my guide...it's available to anyone. Which came from Simucon and which didn't I don't know...but as far as the content of the site...it was very readily available."
>Bardon says, "After exhaustive research, that photo turned up nowhere else at the time."
>Bardon says, "The others were trivial to pin point."
>'As I said, I sent the picture out to several people. Anyone could have saved, or mailed it to anyone else. I have no way of knowing any of that information.You say, "As I said, I sent the picture out to several people. Anyone could have saved, or mailed it to anyone else. I have no way of knowing any of that information."
>Bardon says, "So what you are saying then is..."
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>Bardon asks, "Someone out there created this site. But they snatched your GS3 hot button gripes (from the guide) and put them on the front page (instead of their own gripes). Then they also got ahold of that picture only sent out privately (by email, not in all the various Simucon picture sites) by you and put it in the GS Hunks area of the site?"
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>'No, I'm saying I don't know who or what the particulars are regarding this site. All of the "information" that points to me as the author, is speculation and rumor.You say, "No, I'm saying I don't know who or what the particulars are regarding this site. All of the "information" that points to me as the author, is speculation and rumor."
>'However, it's not too logical that I would hurt myself. Nor my friends.You say, "However, it's not too logical that I would hurt myself. Nor my friends."
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>'Why would someone name me "King Arse" and a Hunk, unless they wanted to splatter my fingerprints all over this site...You say, "Why would someone name me "King Arse" and a Hunk, unless they wanted to splatter my fingerprints all over this site..."
>'Plus, from what you say, copy things that I wrote in MY guide.You say, "Plus, from what you say, copy things that I wrote in MY guide."
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>'Perhaps they agreed with some of the things I said, but didn't particularly like me too much. I honestly have no way of knowing any better than you do. As I said, the speculation and rumor isn't fair.You say, "Perhaps they agreed with some of the things I said, but didn't particularly like me too much. I honestly have no way of knowing any better than you do. As I said, the speculation and rumor isn't fair."
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>'And, again, as I've said before, the motivation just isn't there for me to do that. If you look at who spent MORE time in GemStone than anyone last year, it's a safe bet that that person would be me. This is an extremely emotional issue to me, and I'm shocked by this.You say, "And, again, as I've said before, the motivation just isn't there for me to do that. If you look at who spent MORE time in GemStone than anyone last year, it's a safe bet that that person would be me. This is an extremely emotional issue to me, and I'm shocked by this."
>Bardon says, "Well, we certainly have our theories on who was involved. But we'd rather know for certain. Which, is of course, why I had hoped you'd have some revelation for us to work with here."
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>Bardon says, "I can understand many reasons why you'd not want to be more forthcoming. But it's the reason I'm here at all."
>'All I can do is work with the same speculation and rumor that you can. I have no way of verifying the truth from anyone.You say, "All I can do is work with the same speculation and rumor that you can. I have no way of verifying the truth from anyone."
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>Bardon says, "Seems obvious you are close to the situation. Even if someone did this to "get you" then that still puts you close to the situation. So what I'm here to see is if you'd be able to go out and think about this and see if you can come back with something helpful for us."
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>"It makes no sense, unless someone wanted to get me in hot water. That someone would copy from my guide, name me as King Arse, insult my friends, and name me as a Hunk or whatever...all on the same website, unless they had a grudge against me. And chances are, they won't be the first person jumping up and down trying to help me get out of the situation I'm in now for something I DIDN'T DO. You say, "It makes no sense, unless someone wanted to get me in hot water. That someone would copy from my guide, name me as King Arse, insult my friends, and name me as a Hunk or whatever...all on the same website, unless they had a grudge against me. And chances are, they won't be the first person jumping up and down trying to help me get out of the situation I'm in now for something I DIDN'T DO. "
>'I've done EVERYTHING in my power to find out who was responsible, I even got an e-mail from someone claiming to be the author...what more could I do? I've done everything I can to help you.You say, "I've done EVERYTHING in my power to find out who was responsible, I even got an e-mail from someone claiming to be the author...what more could I do? I've done everything I can to help you."
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>Bardon says, "Well, like I said, I had held out hope that you'd have more to reveal ont he subject. It was worth a shot."
>Solomon nods to Bardon.
>'I apologize for my apparant ignorance.You say, "I apologize for my apparant ignorance."
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>'I've offered what I can on the issue. From facts, to rumors, to speculation.You say, "I've offered what I can on the issue. From facts, to rumors, to speculation."
>Bardon says, "If you are unwilling to give it further consideration, we won't bother you about it further. On the ohter hand, if you come up with something genuinely useful before we conclude our own investigation, we'd be willing to consider some good old fashion horse-trading."
>'Could you please explain what you mean?You ask, "Could you please explain what you mean?"
>Solomon says, "Any of that information can be sent to any of the email addresses you've already got....either mine, Llearyn's, or Feedback."
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>Bardon says, "Like I said in the beginning"
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>'All I can offer at this point that is tangible, is the confession e-mail of the alleged creator. It would be impossible for me to do a 100% accurate investigation without a court order against the website provider.You say, "All I can offer at this point that is tangible, is the confession e-mail of the alleged creator. It would be impossible for me to do a 100% accurate investigation without a court order against the website provider."
>Bardon says, "Like I said, I was thinking you might have more in your back pocket already."
>'I lack the ability to get further information. All I would be able to offer is more rumor and speculation.You say, "I lack the ability to get further information. All I would be able to offer is more rumor and speculation."
>Bardon says, "I hear ya."
>'I mean honestly, if you don't accept a confession e-mail from someone...what do you want me to do?You ask, "I mean honestly, if you don't accept a confession e-mail from someone...what do you want me to do?"
>'I've done everything in my power to help and willingly so, but I wasn't responsible, don't know who was for certain. All I have to go by is what people tell me.You say, "I've done everything in my power to help and willingly so, but I wasn't responsible, don't know who was for certain. All I have to go by is what people tell me."
>Bardon says, "Well, we've been in the buiz a long time.... we got a wall of fake confession emails; even one claiming to be from a dog who had taken over his master's character and got him locked out. :)"
>'I don't know what to say to that one.You say, "I don't know what to say to that one."
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>'And I have no proof that his confession was fake.You say, "And I have no proof that his confession was fake."
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>Bardon says, "Here's what I think"
>'No one knows anything for sure. As I said, I couldn't do a 100% accurate investigation without a court order against the website provider...You say, "No one knows anything for sure. As I said, I couldn't do a 100% accurate investigation without a court order against the website provider..."
>Solomon says, "I could easily create a Hotmail or Yahoo account and email you to claim responsibility...anyone could. We're just saying that an emailed confession isn't something that will close the matter."
>Bardon says, "let me just say this"
>'Well, what will "close the matter"? Just as easily as someone could create an account and email me to claim responsibility, someone could have written the website and framed me for it.You say, "Well, what will "close the matter"? Just as easily as someone could create an account and email me to claim responsibility, someone could have written the website and framed me for it."
Bardon says, "We may never get to the bottom of this...."
>Bardon says, "But, just being hypothetical here for a moment...."
>Bardon says, "If a site were to appear that seemed to be a genuine admission, recanting and apology to all those harmed in the original one; equal in scope to the first.... such a thing might go a long way."
>Bardon says, "That's the kind of thing we want to end up with int he end."
>'So, if I could get someone who admitted to writing the website to create another site and apologize to everyone harmed, then what?You ask, "So, if I could get someone who admitted to writing the website to create another site and apologize to everyone harmed, then what?"
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>Bardon says, "If you got that to happen, in a way that equaled the offense to begin with.... we'd be doing us a big favor. And we'd be willing to factor that into the issue related to the lock-out. We return big favors."
>'I will speak with the person who confessed...I am sure he would be willing to do this, as, I believe he was responsible, and he told me that he didn't want me to be held responsible for something I obviously didn't do, or have any part in.You say, "I will speak with the person who confessed...I am sure he would be willing to do this, as, I believe he was responsible, and he told me that he didn't want me to be held responsible for something I obviously didn't do, or have any part in."
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>Bardon says, "Like we said, we really put no stock in that guy being at all responsible to begin with. But think about it for awhile. I care less about who did all this than, from a personal standpoint, seeing that some amends are made."
>Bardon says, "Some of those people most attacked are friends of mine, you see."
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>'As they are mine.You say, "As they are mine."
>Bardon says, "Then you know where I'm coming from. :)"
>Bardon says, "Well thats my hypothetical speech for the day. I'm due at a meeting, so I'm going to have to split."
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>Solomon says, "I'll handle from here, David..."
>Bardon bows to Solomon.
>Bardon waves.
>'One question.You say, "One question."
>Solomon bows to Bardon.
>Bardon just left.
>Solomon says, "Sure....shoot"
>'I will create an apology website, even though I had nothing to do with it. I'd like to set the record straight about my friends, and that I am NOT King Arse.You say, "I will create an apology website, even though I had nothing to do with it. I'd like to set the record straight about my friends, and that I am NOT King Arse."
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>Solomon nods.
>Solomon says, "Ok..."
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>'I can't really disagree about the hunk part though.You say, "I can't really disagree about the hunk part though."
>winkYou wink.
>'Would that suffice?You ask, "Would that suffice?"
>Solomon says, "A denial site isn't what we're looking for though....that's already been attempted..."
>'No, not a denial site.You say, "No, not a denial site."
>Solomon nods.
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>'If I created a site and took the rap for this whole thing, even though I had nothing to do with it.You say, "If I created a site and took the rap for this whole thing, even though I had nothing to do with it."
>'No one would know the difference. But they would have amends and apologies.You say, "No one would know the difference. But they would have amends and apologies."
>'Would that suffice?You ask, "Would that suffice?"
>'Or perhaps some community service in Gemstone, being a mentor, or something.You say, "Or perhaps some community service in Gemstone, being a mentor, or something."
>Solomon says, "Ok...I will simply repeat what David said...it would definitely go a long way toward helping your OTHER situation with the lockout..."
>Solomon says, "But yes...I can say that if you took responsibility for the site and it wasn't a "I'm doing this cause they're making me"....it would go a long way"
>'No, nothing like that.You say, "No, nothing like that."
>Solomon says, "Nor would it be a good idea to accept responsibility in one place and deny it in another....say....via email, the message boards, or even alternate boards on other websites..."
>'How about I claim responsibility on a website...You say, "How about I claim responsibility on a website..."
>'Say that all past denials were false...and have it be sort of the "Bottom Line" type deal.You say, "Say that all past denials were false...and have it be sort of the "Bottom Line" type deal."
>'And from then forward...just accept responsibility I suppose...You say, "And from then forward...just accept responsibility I suppose..."
>Solomon says, "I think that would be a good move..."
>Solomon nods.
>'What are the chances of having my character restored, everything looked at from a favorable perspective. Considering what we've discussed, and my alleged admission, and apologetic website...where do I stand at this point?You ask, "What are the chances of having my character restored, everything looked at from a favorable perspective. Considering what we've discussed, and my alleged admission, and apologetic website...where do I stand at this point?"
>Solomon asks, "As in removal from the lockout for excessive warnings?"
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>'Indeed.You say, "Indeed."
>Solomon nods.
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>Solomon says, "In other cases where we've made arrangements with players who are permanently locked out, that has varied....the usual reduction is from perm down to 6 months...now...with time served and depending on the site and all, I can't *promise*, but I can certainly see how it would be taken into account on David's level and it could very well be reduced to a shorter time period"
>Solomon says, "So.....at MOST, we'd be looking at 5 months, but again, David can clearly make that number smaller at his discretion...."
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>'What about..say..immediate re-instatement, considering that the site is..top-notch, very apologetic, and even moreso than the other site was damaging.You say, "What about..say..immediate re-instatement, considering that the site is..top-notch, very apologetic, and even moreso than the other site was damaging."
>Solomon says, "I can push that I think....however you would return under HMC status for 6 months...after that, if you remained clean for that period of time, you'd go back to square one..."
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>'Square one being?You ask, "Square one being?"
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>Solomon says, "During that 6 months, any warning or problems, even on non-official sites, would result in reinstatement of the original sentence....back to square one would be the understanding that time was served and future problems would be dealt with more leniency, given that most of your total warnings were in the past..."
>Solomon says, "You'd basically have 6-12 months of "good credit" built up at that point...which would go a long way toward keeping you from serious lockouts for minor problems like you've had before this...."
>'So, if I write a website apologizing, make it very well-written, have no warnings or problems for 6 months, I will be...right back to where I was when this whole episode started?You ask, "So, if I write a website apologizing, make it very well-written, have no warnings or problems for 6 months, I will be...right back to where I was when this whole episode started?"
>Solomon says, "With the addition of the HMC status for 6 months....yes"
>'And also be in considerably good standing at that point, yes?You ask, "And also be in considerably good standing at that point, yes?"
>Solomon says, "Plus you will have already served 1 month of a lockout....so yes, you'd have a relatively clear record at that point...."
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>'If I start now, I could probably write an apologetic website in a few hours, I could probably finish it today.You say, "If I start now, I could probably write an apologetic website in a few hours, I could probably finish it today."
>Solomon says, "I'm not sure how they hold past violations against you here, but I get the impression that time served results in a much cleaner slate"
>Solomon nods.
>'Which means, I could be re-instated tommorrow, or, later tonight?You ask, "Which means, I could be re-instated tommorrow, or, later tonight?"
>Solomon says, "You're welcome to drop me a note when you get something put together and I'll make sure it gets circulated to the right folks...."
>Solomon says, "Yes...that would be entirely possible..."
>Solomon says, "MOst likely the earliest would be tomorrow, since we're getting close to closing time here at the office..."
>'One other thing...You say, "One other thing..."
>Solomon nods.
>'Let's say I get all this done..and re-instated..You say, "Let's say I get all this done..and re-instated.."
>Solomon nods.
>'Will I have to change my character name, reroll, do anything of the sort?You ask, "Will I have to change my character name, reroll, do anything of the sort?"
>Solomon says, "Not to my knowledge...."
>Solomon says, "I've never heard of anything like that happening"
>'Ok.You say, "Ok."
>Solomon says, "Sounds like a plan to me, then...."
>'I guarentee that I will finish it tonight.You say, "I guarentee that I will finish it tonight."
>'Do we have a deal then?You ask, "Do we have a deal then?"
>Solomon says, "Sounds like it to me..."
>Solomon nods.
'I will e-mail you the URL at your e-mail address tonight.>You say, "I will e-mail you the URL at your e-mail address tonight."
>Solomon nods.
>'What time can we talk tommorrow?You ask, "What time can we talk tommorrow?"
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>Solomon says, "I'll have to email you when the site is reviewed and let you know. I've got a couple meetings but not sure how long they'll last...most likely around the same time, would be a good bet though"
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>'Alright, I will be here. I'll get started on this site right away...and do it on Geocities too..since I believe the other site was on it as well.You say, "Alright, I will be here. I'll get started on this site right away...and do it on Geocities too..since I believe the other site was on it as well."
>Solomon nods.
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>Solomon says, "Sounds good to me....let me get you back in the pen for now..."
>Solomon says, "I appreciate your time this evening..."
>Solomon bows to you.
>'And I yours.You say, "And I yours."
>bow solomonYou bow to Solomon.
>
You feel yourself being pulled away...
[The Cell]
Obvious exits: none.
>quit