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longshot
04-23-2008, 03:33 AM
I went on Spring break with some friends, and lost a fair amount of money playing Eucher (prounounced "you-ker" for those not familiar).

It's a four person game played with a partner. I owed $220 at the end of our trip.

Until this evening, we hadn't gotten together to play since break. My partner and I CRUSHED the other team: I went from down $220 to up $360. That's a $580 swing...

I like these guys. But, it's a bit awkward when you take $600 from someone you know in a single night...

Has anyone had any experience with this? Have you ever had a friendship altered, or turn uneasy due to gambling?

Bobmuhthol
04-23-2008, 03:54 AM
I lost a decent amount, not $600 though, to my friend in a few rounds of Hold'em. We were the only ones associating $ to the chips but there was a third guy betting. It didn't affect the friendship at all because I've lost a lot more gambling than that one night, but some n00bs might get pissed if they lose a lot.

Ben 2.0
04-23-2008, 04:36 AM
Dont play if you arent prepared to lose.

NocturnalRob
04-23-2008, 09:36 AM
Have you ever had a friendship altered, or turn uneasy due to gambling?

yes, which is part of the reason i stopped playing poker.

Sean of the Thread
04-23-2008, 09:38 AM
Personally as a gambler win or loss I take the money and say get it back from next time sucker.

But if they're friends and noobs (the ring I play in are not) I'd prolly split up some of the cash back. Or offer them out for some drinks or what not on the cash.

Skeeter
04-23-2008, 09:40 AM
Why would you play (I assume) turn Euchre for money? There is almost no skill involved in that game.

I got so burned out on that game in HS and College the thought of playing it now still makes me cringe. I like games that involve some sort of strategy.

Now if you were playing Bid Euchre with 6 card hands and no kitty that's a different story, and a still a great game.

Also I've taken 100s of $$ off friends in poker games. (lost a few times too) The only time I ever felt bad was when I took a guys entire welfare check in a game of guts. (speaking of games with no skill)

NocturnalRob
04-23-2008, 09:46 AM
I took a guys entire welfare check in a game of guts.

you should have slapped him across the mouth for being such a fucking moron

Sean of the Thread
04-23-2008, 09:48 AM
you should have slapped him across the mouth for being such a fucking moron

but but but the gov't doesn't supply his basic needs... he has to gamble it for a chance to feed his family.

NocturnalRob
04-23-2008, 10:03 AM
but but but the gov't doesn't supply his basic needs... he has to gamble it for a chance to feed his family.

hahaha...BUSH DOESN'T CARE ABOUT THE POOR...OR BLACK PEOPLE!!

TheEschaton
04-23-2008, 10:19 AM
I play Euchre, but I've never won more than $200 in a night (and I rarely lose more than $50). However, if they're your friends, a round or two might solve all problems.

My roommate in college and I played as partners, and it was almost metaphysical.

Parkbandit
04-23-2008, 10:29 AM
I went on Spring break with some friends, and lost a fair amount of money playing Eucher (prounounced "you-ker" for those not familiar).

It's a four person game played with a partner. I owed $220 at the end of our trip.

Until this evening, we hadn't gotten together to play since break. My partner and I CRUSHED the other team: I went from down $220 to up $360. That's a $580 swing...

I like these guys. But, it's a bit awkward when you take $600 from someone you know in a single night...

Has anyone had any experience with this? Have you ever had a friendship altered, or turn uneasy due to gambling?

I had a group of friends I used to play poker with EVERY Monday night. It was poker in the loosest sense of the word. We played games like 2/22, 3/33, between the sheets, etc...

It was great.. we basically had the same type of disposable income. A "big" night would be someone up $50 - $100.

Then one night, we had a marathon game of Between the Sheets. It's a simple game: Everyone puts in $3 and the dealer deals 2 cards in the middle of the table. Essentially, you bet how much of the pot the next card dealt will be numerically between the 2 cards already turned over. So if the dealer turned a 3 and a J, you would bet that the next card is 4,5,6,7,8,9,10. A couple of 'rules'. First round, you can only bet $1. After that, pot was the limit. If the third card wasn't between the 2 cards, you matched your bet in the middle. If the third card was a match of one of the first 2 cards, you doubled your bet.

Normally, it lasts 2-3 rounds and no one is really hurt too bad. THIS night though... the pot grew to over $1000. At the end, a friend of mine owed me $1100 on that one game... and 2 other people owed other people over $500. It lasted over an hour.

And I came in 2nd place that night... Needless to say, that was the last time we played that game.

AnticorRifling
04-23-2008, 10:33 AM
The only time I ever felt bad was when I took a guys entire welfare check in a game of guts. (speaking of games with no skill)


Why would you feel bad about taking your money back from him?

Tsa`ah
04-23-2008, 10:45 AM
I like these guys. But, it's a bit awkward when you take $600 from someone you know in a single night...

Has anyone had any experience with this? Have you ever had a friendship altered, or turn uneasy due to gambling?

I paid many a bill shooting pool in college. Just before spring break I had a high school friend visiting for what was supposed to be a few days. A group of us were just shooting for bragging rights at the union and my friend decided to start shooting for 20 a game and was in for 300 to me a few hours later.

I honestly didn't want his money and told him in private not to worry about it. He drank another beer, ponied up and took off. I didn't hear from him for a few years.

If good friends insist on betting, I try to cap it because I just don't feel comfortable taking money from friends. We're all adults though ... so I have to trust one of them isn't going to get bent out of shape when they lose.

longshot
04-23-2008, 10:48 AM
My roommate in college and I played as partners, and it was almost metaphysical.

That's what I had going last night. It was pretty amazing.

This is in no way a "don't have the money issue." It's not a "noob" issue either. I haven't gambled with them that much, and we're all friends, but not great friends. Their attitude is 100% "we'll get it back."

But wow... it was just such a one sided affair.

So, those last few minutes at the end of the night when we're all leaving... it was a little on the strange side.

Today? Nothing that a round of drinks can't fix.

I had to throw out the topic to see if anyone's run into this kind of thing before.

TheEschaton
04-23-2008, 10:53 AM
Well, if they're not noobs, hopefully they know that some nights the cards just don't fall their way. It seems like they're taking the right attitude ("we'll get it back.") Now, if this is you and your partner totally gaming them because they're incompetent, and this kind of trend continues, then there's probably gonna be bitterness. But if you guys are equals, and just had a good night.....well, that can't be helped.

Kranar
04-23-2008, 11:07 AM
Then one night, we had a marathon game of Between the Sheets...


Hahaha! My friends and I play that exact same game except 7's are wild, and we call it Post! Oh the number of times people have had to walk to the bank to pay off the debt.

What a crazy game.

I have to ask you... have you ever played 7/27? The game where you have to draw closest to 7 or 27?

longshot
04-23-2008, 11:14 AM
Well, if they're not noobs, hopefully they know that some nights the cards just don't fall their way. It seems like they're taking the right attitude ("we'll get it back.")

....

But if you guys are equals, and just had a good night.....well, that can't be helped.

I agree. That's how it should be, and thankfully that's how it is with these guys.

But, if only for the few minutes when we were leaving, it was a little on the strange side. Made me wonder if anyone had an experience where friendly betting got out of hand and really fucked up a friendship.


I paid many a bill shooting pool in college. Just before spring break I had a high school friend visiting for what was supposed to be a few days. A group of us were just shooting for bragging rights at the union and my friend decided to start shooting for 20 a game and was in for 300 to me a few hours later.

I honestly didn't want his money and told him in private not to worry about it. He drank another beer, ponied up and took off. I didn't hear from him for a few years.

If good friends insist on betting, I try to cap it because I just don't feel comfortable taking money from friends. We're all adults though ... so I have to trust one of them isn't going to get bent out of shape when they lose.

That's the kind of story/experience I was hoping to hear about when I started the thread

$300 is a lot of money in college. Especially in 1961... :)

Daniel
04-23-2008, 12:10 PM
I don't play games with my money. :)

Clove
04-23-2008, 12:40 PM
Pitch. And no, if you can't lose, don't play.

Parkbandit
04-23-2008, 06:13 PM
Hahaha! My friends and I play that exact same game except 7's are wild, and we call it Post! Oh the number of times people have had to walk to the bank to pay off the debt.

What a crazy game.

I have to ask you... have you ever played 7/27? The game where you have to draw closest to 7 or 27?


Yea.. 2/22, 3/33, 5 1/2 /21, 7/27

Hell, we used to play 2/22 where you were dealt 1 card down and 1 card up.. and you could call the color. So let's say you had a red 2 down and a black 10 up.. you could go low with red. We made up so many variations to so many games... good times.

Gan
04-23-2008, 06:23 PM
We have a monthly game of hold'em (a bunch of friends) and we keep the buyin and blinds small for that very reason. Its all between friends, but money can change things.

We did try a variation and did a progressive blind tournament style one month where there were no re-buys. The top 3 spots paid out way over what the normal spread is during our 'regular' games. Needless to say it got ugly towards the end and those who went out early got a very sour taste about playing. Even though they knew the expectations going into the game. Money changes everything.

Since then we have maintained the neighborly game with a small buyin, unlimited re-buys when you bust out, and non-progressive blinds. The lesson learned is that we have more fun just hanging around bullshitting and drinking than we do playing cards. Tying a little money to the betting keeps things interesting and ensures healthy competition and of course bragging rights. Of course, the winner that night brings the beer the next game too. ;)

Warriorbird
04-24-2008, 04:29 PM
I took somebody for $1100 one night and it altered a friendship. He definitely had the money.

It can happen. You just have to gauge emotional fortitude.

Latrinsorm
04-24-2008, 04:48 PM
Don't forget which friendship you're REALLY hurting with your gambling.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v456/johnnyoldschool/jesus08.jpg

:no:

Parkbandit
05-07-2008, 12:09 AM
Hahaha! My friends and I play that exact same game except 7's are wild, and we call it Post! Oh the number of times people have had to walk to the bank to pay off the debt.

What a crazy game.

I have to ask you... have you ever played 7/27? The game where you have to draw closest to 7 or 27?

I just played "poker" this weekend with some of my old poker buddies. We had to actually start writing the games down to try and remember them all.

Counting Games:

2/22
3/33
5 1/2 / 21
7/27

Other games:

Pick and Pay - 7 card stud. 2 cards dealt down and then 3 middle cards turned up. In order from the dealer, you can pick the $.25 card, the $.50 card, the $.75 card or a free card off the top of the deck. It's a high hand/low hand split. Variation of this game is the free card becomes a $1 down card.. and for $3, you can take 2 of your down cards and buy all 3 up cards. (We call that booger picker.. don't ask why)

357- Deal 3 cards to each.. 3's are wild. If you stay, 3 card poker rules apply (no straights or flushs) If someone stays with you, you show JUST them your cards and they show you theirs. Winner takes the pot... loser pays the pot. Then you deal 2 more cards to everyone.. 5's are then wild (not 3's). Same ask around who's staying in. Finally deal 2 more cards (7's wild, not 5's or 3's). Ask around again. If no one stays with you, you put up a $1 marker chip in front of you. First one to $3 in markers wins the pot.

Murphs- 3 card guts.. 5's and 10's are wild.

radamanthys
05-07-2008, 12:38 AM
Don't forget which friendship you're REALLY hurting with your gambling.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v456/johnnyoldschool/jesus08.jpg

:no:


With him too:
http://www.targetofopportunity.com/muhammed_cartoon.jpg

Blud
05-07-2008, 09:36 AM
We play:

Fuck Your Buddy
Three-Card I Got It!
Five-Card I Got It!
357
MacIntosh
Hold 'em
5-Card Draw
7-Card Stud
Queen And What Follows

$0.25 maximum bet, but the pots usually get up to $30 - $40 on some of the games. Usually 5 or 7 of us playing at a time, depending on whose house we're at.

Parkbandit
05-07-2008, 09:41 AM
We play:

Fuck Your Buddy
Three-Card I Got It!
Five-Card I Got It!
357
MacIntosh
Hold 'em
5-Card Draw
7-Card Stud
Queen And What Follows

$0.25 maximum bet, but the pots usually get up to $30 - $40 on some of the games. Usually 5 or 7 of us playing at a time, depending on whose house we're at.

Fuck Your Buddy I imagine is what we call Screw your Neighbor. 1 card dealt.. you don't want to have the lowest card at the end?

Queen and what follows is probably "Cindy's a bitch and she's carrying a big stick"? Queen is wild and the next up card after a queen is wild. If no queen comes up, everyone re-antys and it's redealt. If a queen is the last up card, only queens are wild?

We've played MacIntosh.. but I can't remember it. It's a 7 card stud game, right?

What's "I got it!"?

Kranar
05-07-2008, 12:02 PM
This thread is absolute gold. A lot of us have played the same game under a different name and it's pretty funny hearing all the alternative names these games have.

"Cindy's a bitch and she's carrying a big stick" where the heck does that come from? I've always known it as Follow the Queen.

Parkbandit
05-07-2008, 03:39 PM
We have ONE girl that has ever played with us.. her name is Cindy. :)

We also have games called "Booger picker", "Poop squisher" and "Frank's Bleeding red asshole"...