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Tendarian
12-22-2003, 12:23 AM
Any help out there with polearming bards? My bard will be around 19 and id like him able to sing up a sonic lance if needed. Anything else is up in the air but help would be appreciated.

Snapp
12-22-2003, 12:42 AM
Here is my pole-arm bard at level 23.. Hope it helps somehow. SP can probably help more than I.

(at level 23), your skill bonuses and ranks are:
Skill Name | Bonus Ranks Goals Time to Goal
Armor Use..........................| 105 25 25
Shield Use.........................| 105 25 25
Combat Maneuvers...................| 105 25 25
Polearm Weapons....................| 150 50 50
Physical Fitness...................| 105 25 25
Dodging............................| 99 23 23
Harness Power......................| 105 25 25
Elemental Mana Control.............| 40 8 8
Elemental Lore - Air...............| 66 14 14
Perception.........................| 62 13 13
Climbing...........................| 25 5 5
Swimming...........................| 20 4 4

Spell Lists
Minor Elemental....................| 5 5
Bard...............................| 20 20

AnticorRifling
12-22-2003, 07:57 AM
I'll post my bards training when I get home, heavier armor and no lore ranks but still fun.

Czeska
12-22-2003, 01:53 PM
If you're looking to sing a weapon, just remember that the more ranks you have in spellsongs, the better your weapon (to the cap, obviously).
And I can't imagine playing my bard without lores. Especially if you're using sonics.

AnticorRifling
12-22-2003, 02:03 PM
My bard is only lvl 17, with the training I had him going on (2x armor) couldn't afford lore. Now that he's in brig I'll be dropping the armor off for points towards lore etc.

When I get home I'll show ya what he looks like. With strength cast on him his AS is 257 at lvl 17 it's insane. That kind of swing + lance = dead critters left and right :cool:

Tendarian
12-22-2003, 05:06 PM
What does the lores do for sonic weapons? Which lores are helpful to bards actually. And thanks for the training plans,manipulated to my taste and it should work good.

AnticorRifling
12-22-2003, 07:27 PM
Here is my bard in all his glory:

He appears to be a Dwarf.
He appears to be very young. He has brooding dark eyes and ruddy skin. He has a shaven head of deep red hair with a black streak running through it. He has a bulbous nose and a thick mustache and beard.
He is in good shape.
He is holding a barb-tipped vultite warlance in his right hand.
He is wearing a well-forged dwarven war helm, a small anvil shaped beard clip, a splintered modwir axe-head amulet, a dwarven instrument case, a dwarven infantry backpack, a tattered blue dwarven-crafted robe, a dwarven tackle harness, some black plated dwarven brigandine, a stout dwarven belt, a waern-skin forging hammer case, a dwarven infantry gear satchel, a tattered leather coin pouch, a black dwarven-crafted kilt, and some dwarven infantry boots.


Race: Dwarf Profession: Bard (not shown)
Gender: Male Age: 31 Expr: 364493 Level: 17
Normal (Bonus) ... Enhanced (Bonus)
Strength (STR): 95 (32) ... 95 (32)
Constitution (CON): 58 (19) ... 58 (19)
Dexterity (DEX): 75 (12) ... 75 (12)
Agility (AGI): 83 (11) ... 83 (11)
Discipline (DIS): 65 (17) ... 65 (17)
Aura (AUR): 95 (12) ... 95 (12)
Logic (LOG): 44 (2) ... 44 (2)
Intuition (INT): 38 (-6) ... 38 (-6)
Wisdom (WIS): 68 (9) ... 68 (9)
Influence (INF): 95 (12) ... 95 (12)
Mana: 61 Silver: 0

(at level 17), your skill bonuses and ranks are:
Skill Name | Bonus Ranks Goals Time to Goal
Armor Use..........................| 128 34 34
Combat Maneuvers...................| 82 18 18
Polearm Weapons....................| 132 36 36
Multi Opponent Combat..............| 25 5 5
Physical Fitness...................| 82 18 18
Dodging............................| 82 18 18
Harness Power......................| 82 18 18
Elemental Mana Control.............| 35 7 7
Climbing...........................| 25 5 5

Spell Lists
Minor Elemental....................| 7 7
Bard...............................| 11 11


Plan to single in armor now and pick up some lores.

Czeska
12-23-2003, 09:13 AM
Elemental lore, air, improves the durability of your sonics. Would it not suck to have your sonic weapon/shield/armor go BOOM in the middle of a swarm?
Elemental Lore, Air: Training in Elemental Lore, Air increases the durability of each of these items. A minimum of 5 Air Lore ranks will provide a bonus of 5 to the item?s durability. This bonus maxes out at a durability bonus of 201, with 101 Air Lore ranks.

Mental, manipulation helps vibe chant (a personal favorite) and purificatin songs.

Telepathy helps tons of others, including 1007.

Yeah the songs work without lore. But for me, it'd be quite a waste not to get the bonuses. Especially since I'm almost up to 1035. Bard haste.. whee!

Czeska
12-23-2003, 10:04 AM
Ok I got a friend to pull up Czeska's info for me, since I'm at work. I'm sure she's not perfect, but she is doing pretty well in everything I've tried.

Gender: Female Age: 29 Expr: 1198205 Level: 32
Normal (Bonus) ... Enhanced (Bonus)
Strength (STR): 73 (16) ... 73 (16)
Constitution (CON): 52 (1) ... 52 (1)
Dexterity (DEX): 54 (2) ... 54 (2)
Agility (AGI): 81 (15) ... 81 (15)
Discipline (DIS): 77 (13) ... 77 (13)
Aura (AUR): 100 (25) ... 105 (27)
Logic (LOG): 89 (24) ... 89 (24)
Intuition (INT): 91 (25) ... 91 (25)
Wisdom (WIS): 67 (8) ... 67 (8)
Influence (INF): 100 (25) ... 105 (27)
Mana: 124 Silver: 0

Armor Use..........................| 130 35 35
Shield Use.........................| 128 34 34
Combat Maneuvers...................| 102 24 24
Edged Weapons......................| 168 68 68
Multi Opponent Combat..............| 25 5 5
Physical Fitness...................| 128 34 34
Dodging............................| 90 20 20
Magic Item Use.....................| 30 6 6
Harness Power......................| 166 66 66
Elemental Mana Control.............| 45 9 9
Elemental Lore - Air...............| 74 16 16
Mental Lore - Manipulation.........| 54 11 11
Mental Lore - Telepathy............| 99 23 23
Survival...........................| 10 2 2
Perception.........................| 25 5 5
Climbing...........................| 35 7 7
Swimming...........................| 15 3 3

Spell Lists
Bard...............................| 34 34


She is human, btw. Not that you'd know by looking at her.

Starting stats were: Strength (STR): 57
Constitution (CON): 28
Dexterity (DEX): 25
Agility (AGI): 70
Discipline (DIS): 70
Aura (AUR): 90
Logic (LOG): 85
Intuition (INT): 85
Wisdom (WIS): 55
Influence (INF): 95

Makkah
12-27-2003, 06:02 PM
Here's my polearmer bard... he wrecks the Skull Temple, Yetis, Black Forest, etc. (with almost 0 chance of death self-spelled):

Name: Maliku al-Amlak Race: Human Profession: Bard (shown as: Battlechanter)
Gender: Male Age: 27 Expr: 3541180 Level: 60
Normal (Bonus) ... Enhanced (Bonus)
Strength (STR): 100 (30) ... 100 (30)
Constitution (CON): 97 (23) ... 97 (23)
Dexterity (DEX): 90 (20) ... 90 (20)
Agility (AGI): 90 (20) ... 90 (20)
Discipline (DIS): 94 (22) ... 94 (22)
Aura (AUR): 100 (25) ... 105 (27)
Logic (LOG): 56 (8) ... 56 (8)
Intuition (INT): 60 (10) ... 60 (10)
Wisdom (WIS): 74 (12) ... 74 (12)
Influence (INF): 100 (25) ... 105 (27)
Mana: 199 Silver: 330
>skill
Maliku (at level 60), your skill bonuses and ranks are:
Armor Use..........................| 180 80 80
Combat Maneuvers...................| 180 80 80
Polearm Weapons....................| 222 122 122
Physical Fitness...................| 145 45 45
Dodging............................| 162 62 62
Arcane Symbols.....................| 96 22 22
Harness Power......................| 162 62 62
Mental Lore - Telepathy............| 111 27 27
Perception.........................| 120 30 30
Climbing...........................| 82 18 18
Swimming...........................| 82 18 18
Trading............................| 150 50 50

Spell Lists
Minor Elemental....................| 30 30
Bard...............................| 30 30

rht

theotherjohn
12-27-2003, 06:04 PM
I want a bard

Makkah
12-27-2003, 08:43 PM
I want 1025.

rht

Soulpieced
12-27-2003, 08:48 PM
1025 is never gonna be implemented correctly.

Snapp
12-27-2003, 09:30 PM
Do most pole-arm bards not get shield use?

Makkah
12-28-2003, 10:04 AM
Well I had .5x shield in GS3. It never really provided much of a benefit, so I dropped it completely and haven't looked back. From what I've seen most polearmers try to get a little though... I wouldn't recommend it.

rht

Snapp
12-28-2003, 11:06 AM
After asking that I realized I don't think I've ever used a 1-handed polearm weapon (other than a sonic spear once), so I dropped shield myself and picked up a bunch of telepathy lore ranks and fully 1x'd dodging. I think I like it better this way. I guess it just never entered my mind before to drop shield use.. thanks Makkah.

Mistomeer
01-02-2004, 02:56 PM
Originally posted by Snapp
After asking that I realized I don't think I've ever used a 1-handed polearm weapon (other than a sonic spear once), so I dropped shield myself and picked up a bunch of telepathy lore ranks and fully 1x'd dodging. I think I like it better this way. I guess it just never entered my mind before to drop shield use.. thanks Makkah.

I used to use a heavily or very heavily damage weighted spear with my shield. It didn't hit as hard as a lance or jeddart-axe, but was ideal for hunting creatures that bolt. I don't think I ever hit for less than 10 with that. Probably should have sold that before closing the account.

Stunseed
01-02-2004, 11:48 PM
Right now, mine's 6 trains using a glaive. Pilum's blow, and I'm trained for a two-handed Pole. Any suggestions on whether to get a Lance, or Halberd, etc.

Love you Jolena!

Snapp
01-03-2004, 12:45 AM
I use a halberd-based weapon. Only reason I don't use a lance is because of the addition RT.. but I do own one in case I want to switch it up and do extra damage.