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Drisco
04-17-2008, 10:05 PM
Back story is some douchebag was putting a Sanct on the park and like 5 or 6 people were complaining. His attidue was like I'll do it if I want to and you can't stop me. I cutthroated him and got a send.


END[Emeradan] Casting Sanctuary is not an invitation or consent to physical
conflict. Find something else to do.





[Soaring Blood Eagle Table]
A copper tablet hangs next to the table. On the tablet is etched a huge
blood eagle soaring high in the sky. In its claws dangles a rather energetic
halfling.
Also here: GameHost Bessie
Obvious exits: out

You grin.

You pull out a chair and seat yourself at the table

You ask, "So because I cutthroat someone who was imposing their will on me by sancting and making everyone angry. I cutthroat him and I am now
getting a send?"

You say, "That’s B.S."

Bessie asks, "Did you have any other interactions with the person, other than the sanct problem?"

You say, "Nope."

You say, "He was pissing everyone off."

You say, "As a rouge I thought it was perfectly fine that I cut throat him over a issue that was ruining my "Business" of pickpocketing ."

You say, "While I am a rouge who should be able to kill someone if they will pay me a reasonable amount to do so."

Bessie says, "I understand how frustrating it is to have an area be constantly sancted when you want to do something. But just the simple act of sancting
an area, no matter how many times, is not consent for any PvP action."

You say, "That’s such Bull."

You say, "So he can impose his will and sanct every room I want to pickpocket in and I can't do anything about it."

You say, "That is the biggest load of crap I've ever heard."

Bessie says, "I understand the concern, but if someone is only sancting an area, they are not threatening you, or attacking you in any manner, that act
by itself is not an invitation for an attack against them."

You ask, "How can it not be considered reason for PvP?"

You say, "That’s stupid."

You say, "I've seen people kill others because they called them a name or made fun of them and they killed the person."

Bessie says, "That doesn't make it the right thing to do, though."

You say, "That’s not a threat or an attack."

You say, "But people do it all the time in the Real World and in this Game."

You say, "When I kill them I pay the punishment of jail just like in the Real world."

Bessie says, "Policy 4 is very clear on attacking unsuspecting victims. If there was no interaction between you and the person, and all the did was
sanct the area. That is not a standing acceptable reason to initiate an attack on them."

You say, "Well there was some Interaction besides the sanct gosh."

You say, "I told him to stop he wouldn’t I threatened him that if he didn't I would make him."

You say, "He still wouldn't."

Bessie says, "A moment ago you told me you had no interaction with him."

You say, "Well I didn't have any serious interaction."

You say, "I basically said stop or I'll make you."

You say, "He didn't as you can see."

Bessie says, "And just because you told him to stop sancting, does not give you the right to attack another character. Sancting is not a reason to
attack another player, no matter how much it frustrates you."

You say, "I told him to stop he basically wrote me off and told me to do something about it."

Bessie says, "I understand that you are angry about the incident, but the fact stands that sancing is not an invitation to attack anyone else."

You ask, "Is sancting a room over and over, thus causing a loss of enjoyment in the game not a violation of policy?"

You say, "He is violating the policy completely ."

You say, "He was pissing off at least 5-6 people. We told him to stop he wouldn't because he had the attitude that I can and I will and you just try
and stop me."

You say, "This is the biggest load of crap I've ever heard."

Bessie says, "If you disagree with the policies and how they are enforced, you are free to write to feedback and discuss your concerns."

Bessie nods.

You laugh out loud!

You ask, "Who does feed back?"

You ask, "Is feed back what you hosts and GM's do when you are wrong?"

You say, "Just say go to feed back."

Bessie says, "You can write to feedback@simutronics.com. I've stated the policy and the facts for you. I am not going to get into a policy debate."

Bessie smiles.

You say, "I'm not here to debate policy."

You say, "I'm here waiting for you to tell me that Emerandan was wrong."

You say, "That what I did wasn't in violation of policy."

[Bessie says, "Again, you can write to feedback. Because a sanct is not a reason to initiate an attack."

You say, "That I had every right to do what I did because he was ruining the enjoyment of my game. He was told to stop and he had the attitude that he
doesn't care about other players."

Bessie says, "If you feel like the person is ruining your enjoyment of the game, you can report them as it is happening, so that someone can look in
on it as it is happening, if they are available. But taking matters into your own hands, is not the way to go."

You say, "We had interaction though. What I told you was what happened. He then was like 2 more times and I'll stop. That’s such load of bull that he
should control the area."

Bessie says, "And again, you can write to feedback about the issue. But should it happen again, report the individual and let us handle it."

You say, "How about you referral me to a GM who knows more about policy and brains to handle this situation. As in not Emerandan ."

You say, "This is such bull crap that I can't even begin to express how pissed I am at how this is being handled."

You say, "A send because I cut throat someone and saying it's in violation of policy."

You say, "What next will I not be able to call someone stupid."

You ask, "Will I still be able to kill roltons unless I interacted with them first?"

Bessie says, "I am very sorry that you are angry, but a GM is going to tell you exactly what I am telling you now. I have stated the facts for you, and

given you options. Have a good evening."

Bessie vanishes in a puff of smoke!

You say, "I don't think so. You are dancing around my policy question."

You mutter bitch.

Ganalon just appeared.

You feel yourself being pulled away...

[Consultation Lounge]
The cozy surroundings of this simple conference room provide a much-welcomed respite from the chaos just outside its walls. You notice several plush chairs arranged casually around the room in a comfortable grouping.
Obvious exits: none

You laugh out loud!

SEND[Emeradan] I'll be with you in a moment.


Emeradan walks in.

Emeradan says, "Evening."

You say, "Hi."

[Consultation Lounge]
The cozy surroundings of this simple conference room provide a much-welcomed respite from the chaos just outside its walls. You notice several plush chairs arranged casually around the room in a comfortable grouping.
Also here: GameMaster Emeradan
Obvious exits: none

You ask, "Here to tell me you were wrong in giving me a send?"

Emeradan asks, "Can I ask you why you feel the need to insult game staff during an assist?"

You say, "It was after the assist in a private room."

Emeradan says, "Ganalon says, "How about you referall me to a GM who knows more about policy and brains to handle this situation. As in not
Emeradan ."

You say, "I felt like she was dancing around my problem and telling me to take it up with feed back."

Emeradan says, "That's fairly insulting to the host."

You say, "I clearly said it was towards you."

You say, "Not her."

Emeradan says, "Then it's clearly insulting towards me."

You nod.

You say, "Because I felt you sent me without a reason."

Emeradan says, "And is a violation of the terms noted in NEWS 5 16."

You say, "One sec lemme see this policy now."

Emeradan says, "The host redirected you to Feedback for your complaint regarding policy. This is the proper place for your issue."

You say, "While I didn't swear at your and did insult you with an opinion I have of you over this issue I don't think it was serious enough to get a pull
for it."

You say, "She directed me because she didn't want to handle it."

You say, "Or she knew she was wrong."

You say, "Feedback is more like I won'tfeedbackyou."

Emeradan says, "No, she directed you because that's what she's told to do with policy-related issues. You really shouldn't assume."

Emeradan says, "The level of animosity you displayed both toward the host and directed towards staff in general during your last assist warranted my
consulting you and pointing you towards NEWS 5 16."

Emeradan says, "And you need to be well aware of that moving forward."

Emeradan says, "And, as the news item states, "If you have any questions or require clarifications regarding this policy, please feel free to express your
constructive comments or concerns to gsfeedback@simutronics.com with a subject line of RESPECT."

Emeradan says, "Just as with the host, the news item itself directs players to Feedback for policy-related issues."

You say, "I'm assuming what I believe to be true. Just how you are assuming that my interaction wasn't a warrant for CvC when it clearly was if you
looked at the log of everyone mad at him and him acting like an jerk."

You laugh out loud!

You say, "That segment wasn't done at all."

You exclaim, "But I know I know Feedback FEEDBACK!"

Emeradan says, "At thiis point and time, you've been pointed to NEWS 5 16 regarding your recent behavior. I expect you to abide by that during all
future interactions with staff."

[Emeradan says, "If you have concerns about players being disruptive in their gameplay, you should be reporting them... not taking things in your own
hands."

You say, "Just like I expect a GM to look into the logs and see what the problem was before giving a send."

Emeradan says, "If you have concerns about any policy-related issue, you should write to Feedback."

You say, "I didn't feel that I should report I felt that it was IC."

You say, "I don't take my IC stuff into OOC measures."

Emeradan says, "Good to hear."

Emeradan asks, "Any questions about NEWS 5 16?"

You say, "Well it seems you didn't mind giving me a OOC warn for a IC action."

Emeradan asks, "When were you officially warned?"

Emeradan says, "I don't recall that."

You say, "Please don't assume I meant Official warn."

You say, "I am saying you warned me ."

Emeradan says, "I most assuredly cautioned you for your behavior."

You say, "Caution, warn? ."

Emeradan says, "This was already covered in your assist."

You say, "Warned me about an IC action. I don't understand how that even warranted a caution."

Emeradan asks, "Any questions about NEWS 5 16?"

You exclaim, "No for peet sake it very easy to read!"

You exclaim, "Good day sir!"

Emeradan says, "Perfect."

You say, "Just admit you’re wrong though."

You flash a wide grin.

You say, "Or that you acted to swiftly with the send."

A tiny pterodactyl hops on Emeradan's shoulder, ruffling its feathers quickly

before settling down.

Emeradan says, "I admit when I'm wrong. In this case, I'm not."

You ask, "So you are saying what I did was OOC?"

You say, "Or PvP."

Emeradan says, "It was unwarranted based on the action of casting a sanctuary. If the other player was being disruptive to gameplay, they should
have been handled by staff (and you are not staff)."

You say, "When really we interacted IC and I told him IC that if he didn't stop I would and he full well knew what I meant and didn't warn interact me. He
went on to pretty much being like w.e you try I don't care I'm gonna impose my will on you and there is nothing you can do."

You say, "IT WAS IC. I didn't feel the need to bring it into ooc."

Emeradan says, "Until you were told to stop, then his actions were suddenly allegedly a disruption of your game play."

Emeradan rubs his chin thoughtfully.

You say, "I surely knew he felt the same when he didn't tell me in OOC whisper or OOC measures to tell me that. He actually interacted with me to
egg on the gameplay."

Emeradan says, "I could, quite honestly, debate this all night... but it's a waste of your time."

You say, "It was when he brought it to OOC then since it is allegedly OOC then yes I was having disruption of gameplay."

You say, "When I thought it was IC it wasn't disruption. Now that it is considered OOC it has become Disruption of gameplay."

Emeradan says, "Good. Then if disruption of your gameplay repeats itself, you're welcome to let staff look in on the situation."

Emeradan asks, "Questions?"

You say, "I did and they clearly didn't look at it."

You say, "I have a question why you won't look into the log and then tell me what I did was IC."

Emeradan says, "I've already addressed that your actions were inappropriate."

You ask, "Did you look at the actions before hand?"

You ask, "So you are saying you looked at all the actions between me and him and that you deemed it inappropriate?"

Emeradan says, "I haven't said anything otherwise."

You slap yourself on the forehead! Doh!

Emeradan asks, "Any other questions?"

You say, "No I think they would escape you and be directed at feedback."

You sigh.

You say, "That’s all."

You point out.

Emeradan says, "Good evening."

The world grows blurry and indistinct. After a moment everything becomes
clear again. Looking about, you see...
[Frith's Inn, Main Saloon]
Drawn by the aroma of good food and strong drink, you enter the main saloon. The innkeeper presides merrily, ensuring everyone gets a share of attention from the pretty serving wenches and the handsome lad behind the bar. Long benches and rectangular tables seat high-spirited patrons. You also see some swinging doors and a cozy booth.
Obvious exits: north

You say, "Nice productive chat."

Bobmuhthol
04-17-2008, 10:08 PM
I wonder how PC-Ganalon feels about this...

Stunseed
04-17-2008, 10:10 PM
You are a rouge. Sorry. :(

AestheticDeath
04-17-2008, 10:12 PM
PMSing? Hehe, just find a sorcerer older then the sancter, who knows how to use his demon to break it. Then steal from the idiot every time the sanct goes down.

Drisco
04-17-2008, 10:15 PM
I couldn't find a sorcerer and mine just went inactive and he was a Bard so I couldn't get a empath to sanct and drop it.

Gan knows I have Ganalon. You have to admit though. I didn't warrant that send at all. Completely OOC for a IC action.

dszabo
04-17-2008, 10:16 PM
You are a rouge. Sorry.

I noticed that too...is he a french commie? If so, he got what he deserved.

Snapp
04-17-2008, 10:19 PM
While I may agree with your complaint (sancters are annoying), you come off like a retard in that log.

Drisco
04-17-2008, 10:21 PM
Oh I know I sound like an idiot. I was asked to post so I posted. I've just been so pissed with how GM's are throwing around the policy, it just pissed me off so I decided to assist it.

Parkbandit
04-17-2008, 10:44 PM
Sanctuary is an overpowered spell. A low level cleric can completely impose their will on an entire room full of people.

Stanley Burrell
04-17-2008, 10:47 PM
I like Em' a lot, he runs a legit get-up. Maybe you're just kind of unlucky. Forget about it and, just, move on, I guess.

Bobmuhthol
04-17-2008, 10:48 PM
1. Sancts can be broken.
2. Sure, they can "impose their will," if their will is maintaining peace... which is something clerics typically strive to do.

Peanut Butter Jelly Time
04-17-2008, 10:48 PM
Was there not a way to break a sanct released time and time again for various price ranges, and various types of characters? It's one of three things clerics are good at, and only three things.

diethx
04-17-2008, 10:52 PM
You are a rouge. Sorry. :(

Yeah, I stopped reading once I saw those :x

Asha
04-17-2008, 11:04 PM
I was on the receiving end of a SEND when I constantly disrupted Silversofts sancs. She kept saying out loud that I was being reported for disrupting her ''keeping the peace''.
The Send wasn't terribly threatening or anything but was definately telling me to stop interrupting.

So I do see how you feel on this Drisco. It's up to whomever casts a spell that affects you to reap the rewards you choose to give them in return.
But you shouldn't act like such an idiot to 'staff'.
Remember..
''YOU WILL LOSE''

diethx
04-17-2008, 11:07 PM
Remember..
''YOU WILL LOSE''

rofflecakes

BigWorm
04-17-2008, 11:30 PM
I could barely read any more after the second rouge. C'mon dude, its rogue.

You should have taken the out he offered you when he asked you to let staff deal with it. You should have said something like, Yeah, I might have overreacted, but I felt like I needed to deal with the situation in a IC manner. In the future I'll not blah blah blah.

In summary, You got to know when to hold em, and know when to fold em.

Drunken Durfin
04-17-2008, 11:56 PM
Excuse my ignorance on the mechanics of Sanct's, but isn't there a way to break them that does not require an auction level item? I know that if you drag the caster out of the room (if they are dumb enough to be doing it with their Group set to open) that it drops. What else works?

Asha
04-18-2008, 12:13 AM
Demons. Aishans I think. Been a while

B2
04-18-2008, 12:17 AM
There are items that sorcerers can make through Alchemy that break sancts. Not that you have a very good chance on activating them, but they exist.

Did you really have to be so mean to her? You can express your displeasure without cursing and being so rude.

Stunseed
04-18-2008, 12:20 AM
< Did you really have to be so mean to her? You can express your displeasure without cursing and being so rude. >

I hope they start using TOS on reports/assists and begin giving moron lockouts for stuff like this.

Or GS the Fallen.

Drisco
04-18-2008, 12:38 AM
I am horrible for spelling rogue. I swear I remember the first week I started GS I spelled rogue wrong and I always told myself that too. I just can't help it. I'm dyslexic fo life. Rouge!

Joe
04-18-2008, 12:39 AM
Moulin Rouge?

Parkbandit
04-18-2008, 09:07 AM
I was on the receiving end of a SEND when I constantly disrupted Silversofts sancs. She kept saying out loud that I was being reported for disrupting her ''keeping the peace''.
The Send wasn't terribly threatening or anything but was definately telling me to stop interrupting.

So I do see how you feel on this Drisco. It's up to whomever casts a spell that affects you to reap the rewards you choose to give them in return.
But you shouldn't act like such an idiot to 'staff'.
Remember..
''YOU WILL LOSE''


WAIT...

So it's ok for somone to cast sanctuary anytime they feel like it.. but when you disrupted it with your own spell, you got a send from a GM telling you to stop?

That's too funny.

TheWitch
04-18-2008, 09:24 AM
The problem I see here is the result of the cutthroat is the end of the sanct, right? The guy doesn't die, if you stop the cutthroat before he bleeds out, correct?

Assuming this is true, then the end result is no different than that of better trained sorcerer coming in with a demon set to interfere. Or already being there prior to the cast of 213, with a demon set to interfere in which case the cast will fail. Somehow that's okay, because no body gets hurt? Bull.

Who was the cleric you were dealing with, just out of curiousity, and did he report or was Emeradan just being nosy?

Seriously, if the cleric was down with the conflict and at no point complained this is the kind of garbage that's really pissing me off lately.

Take this to the officials but try to tone your attitude.

Because even if the send and interference from staff in totally RP'ed situation was completely uncalled for, your being an asshole to the host was just as uncalled for. She doesn't have the authority, nor is it her job, to argue policy with you, she's just doing her job when she points you to feedback.

Drisco
04-18-2008, 09:25 AM
See what I am sayinnnn.. The GM's are all on power trips now and are in the favor of the whiny bitches.

Drisco
04-18-2008, 09:31 AM
It wasn't a cleric it was a bard, which is worse. With a Cleric I could of just found an older one to cast and then break it.

I know I was being a asshole but I was so pissed with how I got a send for something completely IC. It seems like there has been a lot of that going on and I just got a little angry. I know I was being pissy to the GH and GM but eh it happened and I can't change it.

Yes. All I did was cutthroat the guy twice. Once he came in and we fogged him out and he came back and I cutthroat him. He then came back 5 mins later and did it again. Then we fogged him and I cutthroat, subdued, swept, and temple shot him.

Keep in mind tho that I got the send after I cutthroat him. I didn't subdue, sweep, or temple shot him yet.

The character was... Mistlentan

Some Rogue
04-18-2008, 09:33 AM
LOL @ Emeradan

He pulled a post of mine yesterday because some plat whiner asked why they pay more since prime was going to get more special services at the WoE festival, and I replied so that they could play in their own little sandbox and feel more special than everyone else.

StrayRogue
04-18-2008, 09:42 AM
He really is an idiot. I just dug this out from my feedback logs:

(August 2006)

I am writing to complain about the poor attitude demonstrated by one of the Gemstone 4 Games Masters - Emeradan.

Earlier this morning I used the command Badname to report a name I felt breached the naming policy (Policy 6), which I shall include at the end of this log.

This was the conversation that followed:

badname Highwolf because it's silly.

Your request that Honestwolf's name be reviewed, with reason "because its silly", has been recorded. Thanks for helping to improve the roleplaying environment!

SEND[Andraste] It's hardly silly, as in, totally absurd or ridiculous, but thanks for submitting it.

Me: Then I suggest you take "silly" out of the list of reasons for using badname then.

SEND[Andraste] The point is, any name could be subjectively regarded as silly... so let's save it for those that are totally off-the-wall ridiculous. Thanks!

Me: Then I suggest you take "silly" out of the list of reasons for using badname then.

SEND[Emeradan] Such as "Frogeater Tongueodeath."

Me: I don't honestly see how Highwolf is much farther from

SEND[Emeradan] And that's okay.

Me: Read policy 6, and ammend it, if you think silly is too subjective

SEND[Emeradan] I don't honestly see how Lucene is much farther than Lucian, who was the werewolf leader in Underworld, either... but I appreciate your opinion. Have a good night.

Me: My name isn't a verbnoun or nounverb conbo

SEND[Emeradan] Neither is the one you reported. Have a good night.

Me: And comparing it to Lucian, which is a RL name, is hardly the same as having a name as ludicrous as Highwolf

SEND[Emeradan] Let it go.

Me: I suggest you change your policy unless you want people to actually ask you to enforce it

SEND[Emeradan] I've addressed it. Let it go.

Lucene, as he refers to, is me. Regardless, I feel his attitude toward enforcing his own policy and his general careless sarcasm really made me pause to wonder why he actually is a GM whom liases with players. I didn't appreciate his attempt at humour or his simple method of explaining Highwolf as being an appropriate name.

By the reckoning that an adjective/noun name is fine, using his own example, would Bigtoad be acceptable? Bigguy? Smallmouth? Smellyfox?

Would you consider these "silly"? I certainly would and by excerising my right to complain about them VIA the policy I should at least be treated with some measure of respect or courtesy. I feel I was not.

Anyway, I doubt this will affect anything.

Here, at least is Policy 6, in full. I have put asterixes besides the part I felt appropriate.

GemStone IV Player Policy: Character Names

The following guidelines are in place to ensure a high level of consistency among the names of the adventurers within our community. Players consistently creating names that violate the guidelines may be formally warned or face suspension of playing privileges.

- Vulgarity of any sort will not be allowed.
- Racist or racist related terms are clearly unacceptable. (Klan, Towelhead)
- Names clearly in bad taste will not be allowed. (Lykmi Pihole or Monkeyspanker)
- Names of well-known historical or religious figures. (Hitler, God, St. Peter, Gandhi)
- Copyrighted or trademarked names. (Nintendo, Lucasfilm, Chevy)
- Famous Out-of-genre literary figures or well-known literary terms.
(Buck Rogers, Chewy Bacca)
- Names taken from movies, cartoons or video games.
- Technology based names. (Laserbrain, Jetfighter, Mouseclicker)
- Names of current or past well-known personalities. (Madonna, Goldberg, Cronkite)
- Garbage names. (xxbdgscy , yyyzzz)
- Names with repetitive letters. Two may be allowed, three will not. (xxfredxx, Ghannndalf, Marrrisa)
- Phrases. (Ima toasteroven, Worldsgreatest Treeclimber)
- Names with titles in them. (Knight Blackness, Mistress Bombshell)
** - Silly or out of genre names. (Frogeater Tongueodeath, Bumblebee Tunahead)
- Names created specifically to mock current players.
- Names too similar to names of Staff members or NPCs in game.
- Odd punctuation or capitalization. (Fragel DeLYon)

Feedbacks response:
I'm sorry that you disagree with this ruling, however, it was addressed correctly by the in-game staff. Thank you for sharing your concerns on this topic.


The lesson we learn = Feedback is worthless and GM's use it as a safety net when they themselves don't have the sack to back up their words.

Audriana
04-18-2008, 10:24 AM
If a cleric has the right to impose their will of peace.
A rogue has the right to impose their will of disorder.

Think about it in terms of the game Black & White. Evil is as just a valid way to play as good. There was one comment that the GM responding to the assist made that I didn't like: "That doesn't make it the right thing to do, though."

I have a choice between the incredibly subjective 'right' and 'wrong'. Everybody in the history of the planet has felt every choice they made was the 'right' choice on some level. From Stalin to Mother Theresa. So your character felt he was doing the 'right' thing by preventing/punishing a personal attack of a sanct.

I agree we need some level of order to exist in the game, but that doesn't necessarily mean everybody needs to do what the GMs view is 'right' all the time.

The in-town justice system works the way it works, and it should be the law of towns. Now outside towns, sometimes GM interaction may be required.

Wrathbringer
04-18-2008, 10:31 AM
See what I am sayinnnn.. The GM's are all on power trips now and are in the favor of the whiny bitches.

:wtf:
Just an observation, here. In the entire log, the only person whining during that exchange appears to be you. First about the Sanct, then about the Send. Apparently, the GM's are not in your favor. Totally agree with the power trip portion though, generally speaking.

Drisco
04-18-2008, 10:36 AM
I don't think I was whining tyvm. I was pissed about the sanct and I handled it in a IG way. When I got the send I was ticked off and expressed how stupid it was. Last I recalled that wasn't whining..


Oh and totally agree with you Stray. Feedback is for when they are wrong and can't handle it, so they just send you to feedback. Then when you get your message back you can't talk it out with them.

TheEschaton
04-18-2008, 10:58 AM
It really is an odd game - you are supposed to be able to be good or evil, whatever you choose to RP, but the de facto feeling is that "good" is somehow not necessarily disruptive of people's play, and "evil" is.

Thus, acting "good" by sancting constantly is seen as fine when it really is actually disruptive of several people's gameplay. Acting "evil" by cutthroating the guy is ipso facto bad even though the conflict played out, according to your account, in a way where it was appropriate RP and probably appreciated by other people in the room.

Until the GMs can make that distinction, good luck. I find sancting, giggling and bouncing off each other, and Peri and Missoni's quest whoring to be much more disruptive than Tayre, getting cutthroat for being a bitch, or anything else.

Oh, and in that log, by Em's logic, Frogeater should be a great name. It's a adjectivenoun combo, just like Highwolf.

-TheE-

StrayRogue
04-18-2008, 11:13 AM
Consistency is what is required.

Gan
04-18-2008, 11:17 AM
I wonder how PC-Ganalon feels about this...
:shrug: I sold him, I'll live with it. Now if/when I decide to buy him back I might bring it up if it resulted in any formal disciplinary action.


Gan knows I have Ganalon. You have to admit though. I didn't warrant that send at all. Completely OOC for a IC action.
You never know how the GM's will react if you pick on one of their pets. They are textbook bad examples of discretionary authority.

Sanctuary is an overpowered spell. A low level cleric can completely impose their will on an entire room full of people.
/agreed

If a cleric has the right to impose their will of peace.
A rogue has the right to impose their will of disorder.
Profoundly a winner.

TheWitch
04-18-2008, 12:10 PM
It wasn't a cleric it was a bard, which is worse. With a Cleric I could of just found an older one to cast and then break it.

I know I was being a asshole but I was so pissed with how I got a send for something completely IC. It seems like there has been a lot of that going on and I just got a little angry. I know I was being pissy to the GH and GM but eh it happened and I can't change it.

Yes. All I did was cutthroat the guy twice. Once he came in and we fogged him out and he came back and I cutthroat him. He then came back 5 mins later and did it again. Then we fogged him and I cutthroat, subdued, swept, and temple shot him.

Keep in mind tho that I got the send after I cutthroat him. I didn't subdue, sweep, or temple shot him yet.

The character was... Mistlentan

Gotcha, and I meant bard not cleric. My coffee level was not adequate previously.

Just for informational purposes: The imp is the demon that can break song of peace, the abyran'sa can break 213. Any demon can prevent the initial singing/casting of said spells if its been instructed to interfere. All of this assuming that the sorcerer who summoned said demon has the skills to back them up versus the singer/caster.

This next part is directed to the whiners reading these boards:

Get a pair. Seriously.
The GM's are over the top on this stuff, and it really comes down to they have to be when people whine and complain.

You want to do what you want to do, and you want it all pink and fluffy and nice. Many people playing the game do NOT want it all pink and fluffy and nice. Try handling your conflicts yourself once in awhile, instead of whining off like a baby to the GM's and hitting the report button.

Try whispering to the person, "I don't really want to have a conflict with you, can we not, please?" I seek conflict, every day. If someone whispered that to me, I would immediately back off. IMMEDIATELY. Mature people playing who enjoy conflict will do that. Immature people won't, and then try your whining routine.

But JFC, try to be mature here and realize just because pink is your favorite color and you love bunnies, does NOT mean A. that's the only way to be, and B. some people like blood.

Asha
04-18-2008, 12:35 PM
Profoundly a winner.

X2 on that

Tolwynn
04-18-2008, 01:27 PM
Some food for thought:

You have the perma-sancters and the like who talk to staff when they report.

You also have people like the OP, against the sancts, who throw a tantrum and act like a raging douchebag when they talk to staff.

Which side do you honestly think staff is going to be more likely and/or willing to help and support?

Drisco
04-18-2008, 01:43 PM
Gotcha, and I meant bard not cleric. My coffee level was not adequate previously.

Just for informational purposes: The imp is the demon that can break song of peace, the abyran'sa can break 213. Any demon can prevent the initial singing/casting of said spells if its been instructed to interfere. All of this assuming that the sorcerer who summoned said demon has the skills to back them up versus the singer/caster.

This next part is directed to the whiners reading these boards:

Get a pair. Seriously.
The GM's are over the top on this stuff, and it really comes down to they have to be when people whine and complain.

You want to do what you want to do, and you want it all pink and fluffy and nice. Many people playing the game do NOT want it all pink and fluffy and nice. Try handling your conflicts yourself once in awhile, instead of whining off like a baby to the GM's and hitting the report button.

Try whispering to the person, "I don't really want to have a conflict with you, can we not, please?" I seek conflict, every day. If someone whispered that to me, I would immediately back off. IMMEDIATELY. Mature people playing who enjoy conflict will do that. Immature people won't, and then try your whining routine.

But JFC, try to be mature here and realize just because pink is your favorite color and you love bunnies, does NOT mean A. that's the only way to be, and B. some people like blood.

Very well put. If a person was willing to whisper to me and tell me they don't want any conflict I would in-turn whisper back "Okay but I don't want this sanct up so we are gonna have to make a deal here."




Some food for thought:

You have the perma-sancters and the like who talk to staff when they report.

You also have people like the OP, against the sancts, who throw a tantrum and act like a raging douchebag when they talk to staff.

Which side do you honestly think staff is going to be more likely and/or willing to help and support?


I agree and I do realize that by me getting all pissy wasn't right but I was fumed at the whole situation, that I did act like an idiot.

Fallen
04-18-2008, 01:46 PM
My advice? Ensure there is roleplay before the conflict turns to CvC, then ignore the SENDS of the GMs until the matter gets you pulled into the lounge. If you can show that you did inform the person that their actions is going to lead to CvC if they continue, then the GMs will have little ground to get you into any real trouble.

Emeradan is one of the worst GMs on staff. He is far, far too provocative to be a CE GM, let alone the damned board moderator.

Skeeter
04-18-2008, 01:46 PM
You could always quit the game and find something constructive to do with your time.

Asha
04-18-2008, 01:50 PM
You could always quit the game and find something constructive to do with your time.

Unfuckingthinkable.

Eoghain
04-18-2008, 02:40 PM
I couldn't find a sorcerer and mine just went inactive and he was a Bard so I couldn't get a empath to sanct and drop it.

Gan knows I have Ganalon. You have to admit though. I didn't warrant that send at all. Completely OOC for a IC action.

WTF? was that before I got there? Damn.

Eoghain
04-18-2008, 02:48 PM
Gotcha, and I meant bard not cleric. My coffee level was not adequate previously.

Just for informational purposes: The imp is the demon that can break song of peace, the abyran'sa can break 213. Any demon can prevent the initial singing/casting of said spells if its been instructed to interfere. All of this assuming that the sorcerer who summoned said demon has the skills to back them up versus the singer/caster.


Quite note: any Abyran can break a 213 sanct, either Abyran'a or Abyran'sa. I did it all day long with an Abyran'a yesterday :)

Belnia
04-18-2008, 02:53 PM
a jagged glossy black shard (x12)

Sanctuaries don't bother me, really. The best thing is, once it's successfully broken, it can't be recast for 10 minutes or so.

Also, why were you just complaining at the host? If you had issue, you should have assisted, and just requested a referral to speak to a GM, or just written right to feedback. You came off looking like a jerk.

ViridianAsp
04-18-2008, 03:29 PM
Sanctuary is an overpowered spell. A low level cleric can completely impose their will on an entire room full of people.

Only douchebags do this, I rarely sanct. If you are going to leave valuable crap in your pockets and leave them open, you totally deserve to get stolen from.

Why bother using minor sanct when I have 220?

Fallen
04-18-2008, 04:02 PM
Sanct breaking shards are the way to go if the sancter is far lower than you in levels and you have MIU. Playershops.com FTW.

I tend to rest AT a sanctuay, though. Helps to avoid a lot of problems.

Danical
04-18-2008, 04:03 PM
Emeradan is the only person on staff I truly despise.

I would repeatedly cockpunch him if I could.

Motherfucker banned me from the officials for having the Sig -- Officials: Internet Sandbox & Officials: Censorship Happy.

Parkbandit
04-18-2008, 04:19 PM
Only douchebags do this, I rarely sanct. If you are going to leave valuable crap in your pockets and leave them open, you totally deserve to get stolen from.

Why bother using minor sanct when I have 220?


I've bolded the part that is important. What the GMs are too stupid to realize is that minor sanctuary is used in many cases to disrupt the roleplay of others. The GMs have been ingrained to believe that only people who are happy and friendly and help other people are the real roleplayers of the game.. and that anyone who doesn't do this cannot roleplay.

Andraste is a prime example of this.. as she still, to this day, cannot figure out the difference between CvC and PvP.

ViridianAsp
04-18-2008, 04:30 PM
I agree to some extent, I don't like the people who abuse minor sanctuary, I use it rarely, because, it's only there for one purpose, for times of need like invasion, or to keep someone from killing the person you are trying to save...I'm not fond of raising anyone in a room that isn't already sancted.

I believe abuse of minor sanctuary in areas like the park and any MAJOR areas where people group, unless it's done out of need (invasion, ect.) should be a violation of policy, because it is in fact forcing it on others.

I have used it in RP situations where maybe people where trying to kill a group of people who were evil, yadda, yadda...but it was never a something I did all the time.

Danical
04-18-2008, 04:57 PM
Emmra's spirit appears to be lifted by the singing.
A sense of peace and calm resettles over the area.
The mirror images surrounding Emmra undulate and grow stronger.
Emmra renews her songs.

You say, "I knew it."
>prep 1013
You change your tune slightly, adding the element for Song of Unravelling to your song...
Your spellsong is ready.
>cast emmra 1011
You weave another verse into your harmony, directing the sound of your voice at Emmra.
A sense of serenity and peace calms you, and you lose the focus of your song.
Sing Roundtime 3 Seconds.

----------------
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via FoxyTunes (http://www.foxytunes.com/signatunes/)

TheWitch
04-18-2008, 05:20 PM
Lalalala, peace!

POPOPOPOPO, NOT PEACE!

Lala wins, Po looses.

Yes, I did it. I called you Teletubbies.

Allereli
04-18-2008, 05:21 PM
Sanct breaking shards are the way to go if the sancter is far lower than you in levels and you have MIU. Playershops.com FTW.

Advertisement:

glossy black shards

www.playershops.com/twilights

Warriorbird
04-18-2008, 05:25 PM
Bait the Bard into conflict. Problem solved.

Rimalon
04-18-2008, 05:31 PM
I hate that there are two goddamn opposing die rolls for breaking sancts via the shards.

Capped, with 202 ranks MIU, I don't even come CLOSE to someone's sanct who's like level 90. And you can't even try to break it again right after because it's a five minute cooldown. Weak, ghey, dumb.

Suppa Hobbit Mage
04-18-2008, 05:37 PM
If you try and fail, does it use the shard?

Rimalon
04-18-2008, 05:47 PM
Each shard has 3 charges... trying and failing/trying and succeeding both waste a charge.

Suppa Hobbit Mage
04-18-2008, 05:55 PM
and people want 50k for them? LMAO.

Danical
04-18-2008, 07:31 PM
So lame.

I wonder if I can 1015 the entire room.

That should be fun.

EDIT: When Emmra came back from being away I just asked her to stop sancting so I could fuck with Edaarin. She said no problem. :D

Asha
04-19-2008, 06:51 AM
Plz die in a fire.

Latrinsorm
04-20-2008, 12:01 PM
If a cleric has the right to impose their will of peace.
A rogue has the right to impose their will of disorder.Not only is this not accurate, but the two issues aren't even linked. You even refer to the IG town laws later in your post - obviously a haven of order is not going to be a big fan of people running around slitting throats.
I agree we need some level of order to exist in the game, but that doesn't necessarily mean everybody needs to do what the GMs view is 'right' all the time.You don't ever "need" to do what the rules say. If someone else (for instance, a GM) has power over you, you do have to tolerate the consequences that come from breaking those rules.
The GMs have been ingrained to believe that only people who are happy and friendly and help other people are the real roleplayers of the game.. and that anyone who doesn't do this cannot roleplay.It couldn't possibly be that you were actually being disruptive, huh? It's everyone else who doesn't know what REAL RPing is, not you.

Cyprion
04-20-2008, 03:33 PM
In the empath thread, empaths were told to move to a different room. You guys should take your own advice and move to another room to pick pocket if it is sanct. Problem solved.

Tea & Strumpets
04-20-2008, 03:54 PM
In the empath thread, empaths were told to move to a different room. You guys should take your own advice and move to another room to pick pocket if it is sanct. Problem solved.

That's brilliant advice. Just leave the park and go pickpocket at a private table, you selfish bastards.

Nieninque
04-20-2008, 04:03 PM
YAY! Dar is back!!!!1111

AestheticDeath
04-20-2008, 04:40 PM
I think in some cases it comes down to who was there first, and who is being more of an asshole.

But like last night at the auction. People were sancting because Tayre and a few others were stealing. And then after I said something 'funny' to Eurt, he decided he was going to kill me. So I starting singing song of peace when the other sancts went down (since all the 213 sancts were lasting like 5 minutes for some reason, was the duration changed?), and then Tayre proceeded to start hiding/stalking/fogging me away.

Then Belnia started using her shards, until one of her friends told her to stop.

Finally Tsin put Healall on a script to keep the sanct up.

But if I had died from one of those bastards breaking my sanct, they would have been the next to die along with the one who killed me.

Some people just break sancts because they are too stupid to do anything else but fuck with someone elses wishes. People like to show they are bigger.

Khariz
04-20-2008, 04:55 PM
I think in some cases it comes down to who was there first, and who is being more of an asshole.

But like last night at the auction. People were sancting because Tayre and a few others were stealing. And then after I said something 'funny' to Eurt, he decided he was going to kill me. So I starting singing song of peace when the other sancts went down (since all the 213 sancts were lasting like 5 minutes for some reason, was the duration changed?), and then Tayre proceeded to start hiding/stalking/fogging me away.

Then Belnia started using her shards, until one of her friends told her to stop.

Finally Tsin put Healall on a script to keep the sanct up.

But if I had died from one of those bastards breaking my sanct, they would have been the next to die along with the one who killed me.

Some people just break sancts because they are too stupid to do anything else but fuck with someone elses wishes. People like to show they are bigger.


Trust me, I was prepared to Police as well. If Eurt woulda swung at someone, you all would have been amused by his brain particles on my maul.

AestheticDeath
04-20-2008, 04:57 PM
:)

Timjirdos
04-20-2008, 06:45 PM
Eurt's a cunt. That is all.

AestheticDeath
04-20-2008, 09:19 PM
I know he was trying to sell his character for a while, did he do that? Or is it the same guy?

Khariz
04-21-2008, 12:38 AM
I know he was trying to sell his character for a while, did he do that? Or is it the same guy?

If its not, they sure act the same. Chances are it may be though. He was only accepting money orders. I wanted the character for the disarm mastery. Fuck money orders though.

Parkbandit
04-21-2008, 08:17 AM
It couldn't possibly be that you were actually being disruptive, huh? It's everyone else who doesn't know what REAL RPing is, not you.


Clearly you didn't know any of my characters.. especially since I was never pulled up into the lounge and given any sort of warning in 8+ years of playing.

Nice try though dipshit. Really.

So Latrinsorm, who are/were the characters you played in GS? I imagine you played one of the Icemule empath girls. You seem to be the type.

Latrinsorm
04-21-2008, 01:19 PM
Clearly you didn't know any of my characters.. especially since I was never pulled up into the lounge and given any sort of warning in 8+ years of playing.One does not have to be "pulled up into the lounge" to be given a warning - which is putting aside the fact that you come off awfully bitter for someone who never had any problems with the GMs.
Nice try though dipshit. Really.I thought it went pretty well! :)
So Latrinsorm, who are/were the characters you played in GS? I imagine you played one of the Icemule empath girls. You seem to be the type.My main's Zezima, but none of my girls ever really hung out in Icemule much. I think Zaaf went through a couple times to grab stuff from PC shops there, but that's about it.

Suppa Hobbit Mage
04-21-2008, 01:26 PM
I thought Zaaf was someone else entirely, or did you assume the character?

Bobmuhthol
04-21-2008, 01:29 PM
Zaaf is definitely Latrinsorm's.

Latrinsorm
04-21-2008, 01:36 PM
I rolled up Zaaf when I gave Gracy back to Edaarin. :yes:

Suppa Hobbit Mage
04-21-2008, 02:02 PM
My bad, I was thinking of Neff actually.

Methais
04-21-2008, 02:24 PM
Emeradan is two sends away from becoming Andraste 2.0.

And on a somewhat unrelated topic, GS really needs a FACEPALM verb.

That Jay
04-21-2008, 02:32 PM
Emeradan is two sends away from becoming Andraste 2.0.

He's way past there.

Example: This lovely little email I received from him recently. Notice in his capacity as monitor, its not an official warning or caution. Its what I like to call an "intervention". :) Notice also that he is "respectfully request"-ing but basically says any response on my part will be ignored. How respectful! It made me feel all warm inside.
______

Dear UNINVITED,

I realize and recognize that you have not only a vested interest in GemStone, but also a passion for various aspects of the game. Most of us share similar feelings and passions about various aspects of the game. And the GSIV Forums are the preferred venue for sharing concerns about aspects of the game that you feel are not quite up to par. However, you have a clearly established habit of, when posting your very constructive concerns about those things, also including subtle (and sometimes not so subtle) non-constructive jabs aimed at game staff. These jabs have no place on the GSIV Forums.

A recent example:

http://www.play.net/forums/messages.asp?forum=35&category=4&topic=6&message=50706

>>A response to Platinum concerns would be appreciated.

>>I find it curious, that after due consideration of previously stated concerns regarding one per account restrictions for the other limited releases at the Wonders festival, they decided to let "roleplay" hold sway and NOT limit wins to accounts and yet in the case of private property (items which truly touch on roleplay considerations) they decide the exact OPPOSITE.

>>You have got to give them a gold star for consistency.

>>Wait, strike that. Reverse it.

The final two statements have absolutely nothing to do with your concern and add little to the discussion. There's no reason at all for their inclusion outside of jabs and inflammatory content towards game staff.

At the present time, you have had posts pulled from the Forums for the following reasons: Vulgarity (1), Masked Vulgarity (1), Inflammatory/Flaming (3), Harassment (1), Sexually Explicit (2), Disruptive (13), and Flaming Simutronics (3). While all of these were Cautions (not TAC Warnings), they set the scene for what could possibly result in the removal of your privilege to post should these behaviors continue.

I would like to respectfully request that you consider modifying the method by which you choose to express your concerns about aspects of the game that you feel are not quite up to par. As previously shown, you have expressed perfectly valid and constructive concerns many times in the past on the GSIV Forums, but when they are coupled with subtle (and sometimes not so subtle) non-constructive jabs aimed at game staff, your constructive contributions tend to become lost in the aftermath... and I'd rather not see that happen.

If you'd like to reply to this message, you're more than welcome to do so. However, this message isn't intended to set the scene for an extended discussion about these matters. It's merely intended to inform you that I feel these issues exist, and to let you know of my desire for them to cease.

Regards,
GM Emeradan
GS4-EMERADAN@PLAY.NET

Methais
04-21-2008, 02:36 PM
Respond and say:

I would like to respectfully request that you eat a bowl of dicks.

AestheticDeath
04-21-2008, 02:40 PM
Emeradan is two sends away from becoming Andraste 2.0.

And on a somewhat unrelated topic, GS really needs a FACEPALM verb.

scold (yourself)

Not the exact same, but close as I can recall there being.

septus
04-21-2008, 05:50 PM
I think Emeradan was the one that let Omens kill me 3+ times in a row for me attacking one of his other characters. (Omens wasn't in the same room) .. Not very constant eh? I just got the 'well stop saying anything to Omens about it' .. Basically I wouldn't apologize for cutting his characters leg off. Out of policy with what Omens did, but I'm told Omens pretty much has Teras wrapped around his finger.. so I don't go there anymore.

Parkbandit
04-21-2008, 06:22 PM
One does not have to be "pulled up into the lounge" to be given a warning - which is putting aside the fact that you come off awfully bitter for someone who never had any problems with the GMs.

Oh.. so now because I am critical of one or two GMs, I suddenly must have had numerous warnings about being disruptive? Is this using the same 'logic' techique that TheE seems to have perfected?

Here.. I'll give you a big hint. I was a senior game host when I left the game. I doubt many SGHs had numerous warnings about being disruptive.

Sean
04-21-2008, 06:24 PM
Originally Posted by ParkBandit
Clearly you didn't know any of my characters.. especially since I was never pulled up into the lounge and given any sort of warning in 8+ years of playing.

I actually agree with PB on the topic that sanc needs a serious nerf. I just quoted this though because I saw it in latrin's post and it reminds me of the infamous Vishra defense.. I got 2094029402 RPAs therefore everything I do is good and awesome and proper!

Parkbandit
04-21-2008, 06:26 PM
I actually agree with PB on the topic that sanc needs a serious nerf. I just quoted this though because I saw it in latrin's post and it reminds me of the infamous Vishra defense.. I got 2094029402 RPAs therefore everything I do is good and awesome and proper!

I'm pretty sure RPAs and having no warnings on your record are like comparing apples to plastic spoons.

Methais
04-21-2008, 07:17 PM
Andraste gave me an RPA once because she accidentally soaped me instead of someone else whose name started with "Meth".

The short, short version: "Oops, sorry wrong person. Here have an RPA."

Not that I'm complaining about getting an RPA, but...yeah.

Methais
04-21-2008, 07:21 PM
I think Emeradan was the one that let Omens kill me 3+ times in a row for me attacking one of his other characters. (Omens wasn't in the same room) .. Not very constant eh? I just got the 'well stop saying anything to Omens about it' .. Basically I wouldn't apologize for cutting his characters leg off. Out of policy with what Omens did, but I'm told Omens pretty much has Teras wrapped around his finger.. so I don't go there anymore.

I haven't played much for the past month or so, but I haven't seen him on Teras at all since I came back.

Khariz
04-24-2008, 12:12 AM
Speaking of Eurt...

Check out this post he just made on the officials:

https://www.play.net/forums/messages.asp?forum=102&category=16&topic=12&message=1090


Spiked shield · on 4/23/2008 7:54:27 AM 1090

It is what it is.
I hate to break it to you people but almost all of the items bought all over the world are resold eventually.
If ya don't like the price don't bid. Really though there's no need for all the commotion so don't play stupid. You probably do the same thing, so kiss my ass.

crb
04-24-2008, 09:01 AM
and people want 50k for them? LMAO.
When the supplies to make them run you 40k, yes. It sucks but what can you do? Sell them at a loss?

If someone brings me the crystals and powdered doomstone I'll make them for 10k, or free if you're a friend.



Originally Posted by Parkbandit
Clearly you didn't know any of my characters.. especially since I was never pulled up into the lounge and given any sort of warning in 8+ years of playing.
Such a lie.

Parkbandit
04-24-2008, 09:07 AM
Such a lie.

Feel free to supply supporting documentation to this. The only warning I have ever received from Simutronics was over the forums and had zero to do with anything in game. And, unless they have changed their screening standards lately, you cannot become a Gamehost, let alone a Senior Gamehost with warnings on your record.

So dipshit.. where exactly was I lying? Someone sounds mad because perhaps HE got a warning for an interaction between us and I didn't. Boo hoo :(

Asha
04-24-2008, 09:16 AM
rofl at Omens owning Teras! Weak.
rofl at Crb grasping for something against PB. Morning coffee gold.

AnticorRifling
04-24-2008, 09:25 AM
Actually I think this could have been corrected had it been handled differently by the OP. Sanct annoys me sure but I never had a problem getting it removed or making it clear that failure to remove it could result in accidents when they went into the wild.

If the sancter pulls the BS of "Nothing you can do about it na na"

Let them know they have the room but once they leave the gates they're stepping into your house, or they can just remove the damn spell.

crb
04-24-2008, 09:42 AM
Feel free to supply supporting documentation to this. The only warning I have ever received from Simutronics was over the forums and had zero to do with anything in game. And, unless they have changed their screening standards lately, you cannot become a Gamehost, let alone a Senior Gamehost with warnings on your record.

So dipshit.. where exactly was I lying? Someone sounds mad because perhaps HE got a warning for an interaction between us and I didn't. Boo hoo :(
Right, because I have documentation about all the trouble you got into when you first started playing, I break into Simu on a nightly basis and get printous... that is a reasonable request. I also lost all my old logs when I switched computers in 99 and forgot to transfer them over.

You were a huge trouble maker, you got in trouble lots of times, I was there when you got pulled up. I was there when GMs came down and told you to stop.

Eventually I moved to Teras, and so didn't see you again, and maybe, like most people you grew up, in RL and in the game.

why lie about this? What player hasn't been inside the consultant lounge ever?

Unless of course, Falgrin was bought and you weren't the original owner. The original one was just another generic troublemaker, the kind that usually ends up being banned.

I think I've probably killed you more repeated times than anyone else I've ever interacted with in game, and I never got a warning, reminder, or a SEND for any of those. Not that I've never gotten a warning, I won't lie, I've gotten plenty, especially when I first started, when I was more tempermental, I just never got one for killing you. In fact, as I recall, I used itchy curse on you once to steal a backpack of gear and, the WARN verb not being in existence then, the GM (you called) made you swear never to interact/harass/steal from with me again in order to get it back. I didn't get a warning for that one either.

Be honest, I'm sure we're both more mature than we were then, there is no reason to lie about your troubled past.



And, unless they have changed their screening standards lately, you cannot become a Gamehost, let alone a Senior Gamehost with warnings on your record.

You can become a gamemaster the day after you implode town square, it's happened.

CrystalTears
04-24-2008, 09:44 AM
why lie about this? What player hasn't been inside the consultant lounge ever?
/raises her hand

g++
04-24-2008, 09:57 AM
Right, because I have documentation about all the trouble you got into when you first started playing, I break into Simu on a nightly basis and get printous... that is a reasonable request. I also lost all my old logs when I switched computers in 99 and forgot to transfer them over.

You were a huge trouble maker, you got in trouble lots of times, I was there when you got pulled up. I was there when GMs came down and told you to stop.

Eventually I moved to Teras, and so didn't see you again, and maybe, like most people you grew up, in RL and in the game.

why lie about this? What player hasn't been inside the consultant lounge ever?

Unless of course, Falgrin was bought and you weren't the original owner. The original one was just another generic troublemaker, the kind that usually ends up being banned.

I think I've probably killed you more repeated times than anyone else I've ever interacted with in game, and I never got a warning, reminder, or a SEND for any of those. Not that I've never gotten a warning, I won't lie, I've gotten plenty, especially when I first started, when I was more tempermental, I just never got one for killing you. In fact, as I recall, I used itchy curse on you once to steal a backpack of gear and, the WARN verb not being in existence then, the GM (you called) made you swear never to interact/harass/steal from with me again in order to get it back. I didn't get a warning for that one either.

Be honest, I'm sure we're both more mature than we were then, there is no reason to lie about your troubled past.



You can become a gamemaster the day after you implode town square, it's happened.

It takes a special kind of man to tell someone they know more about another person then the person themself with a straight face. I dont think PB would lie about any of this because frankly I dont think PB gives enough a shit about GS or you.

Thanks for saving gemstone by the way the 400 that are on now compared to the 800 that were on nightly in GS3 is indeed cause for celebration. Thats even less people per night than signed your petition.

crb
04-24-2008, 10:11 AM
Would you rather it have been 100 people online a night?

If you really hate the current system and think I ruined the game, quit, and if you quit, probably should stop posting in a forum about a game you no longer play as well.

Don't blame me for the bad decisions of Simutronics management. I'm not the one who continues to raise prices even though costs are down and competitors have much much much lower prices. I'm not the one who tripled advancement rates to attract the ADD generation, which has the obvious side effect of allowing people to burnout and get bored quicker and leave. I'm not the one who promotes bad liasons and hosts to the positions of bad GMs, and bad GMs to bad SGMs, while letting the best talent go. And, of course, I'm not the one who has unnecessarily expanded the game in the face of a shrinking populace in both geographic scope, and depth and complexity, by adding a bunch of unnecessary and unneeded races and all the baggage that goes along with them.

Believe me, people haven't been leaving the game because they wanted a level 70 cap instead of a level 100 cap with no skill cap.

Asha
04-24-2008, 10:27 AM
If you really hate the current system and think I ruined the game, quit, and if you quit, probably should stop posting in a forum about a game you no longer play as well.


This forum is not entirely based on GS. Less so than ever.



I'm not the one who tripled advancement rates to attract the ADD generation, which has the obvious side effect of allowing people to burnout and get bored quicker and leave.

And, of course, I'm not the one who has unnecessarily expanded the game in the face of a shrinking populace in both geographic scope, and depth and complexity, by adding a bunch of unnecessary and unneeded races and all the baggage that goes along with them.

I can't believe you see those as bad additions. You're just burned and always will be because you're no longer the grrreat sorcerer king.

CrystalTears
04-24-2008, 10:32 AM
I'm not the one who tripled advancement rates to attract the ADD generation, which has the obvious side effect of allowing people to burnout and get bored quicker and leave.
It's not the ADD generation, it's the generation of gamers that have access to way more games that allow for much faster progression. Even with triple X, advancement in levels is still slow. That's why people get bored and move on, not because it's easier for us veterans, but because it's still taking a long time.

And, of course, I'm not the one who has unnecessarily expanded the game in the face of a shrinking populace in both geographic scope, and depth and complexity, by adding a bunch of unnecessary and unneeded races and all the baggage that goes along with them.
Yes best to live with the status quo. Keeping the game the same and never expanding or adding will keep people happy. Sure.

crb
04-24-2008, 10:38 AM
I can't believe you see those as bad additions. You're just burned and always will be because you're no longer the grrreat sorcerer king.

What a stupid thing to say. I'm probably more well known and more powerful in comparison to other sorcerers now than at any point previous.

I really love how all these noobs make assumptions about me going back over a decade and then try to insult me based on it. If someone like Parkbandit wants to insult me based on supposed prior behavior, he atleast knew me. To say I used to be king of sorcerers and now I'm not is just ridiculous. I wasn't even the oldest dwarf sorcerer for much of the 90s. Simmer, Karhl, Malok, Tarakan, Briars earlier, etc etc. I was never one of the oldest sorcerers until most of those people (and many others) quit, or cut way back, or in the case of Tarakan, decided to focus on fame instead of advancement.

g++
04-24-2008, 10:38 AM
Would you rather it have been 100 people online a night?

If you really hate the current system and think I ruined the game, quit, and if you quit, probably should stop posting in a forum about a game you no longer play as well.

Hmmm, I think Ill just do whatever the fuck I want instead. Thanks.


Don't blame me for the bad decisions of Simutronics management

Im not blaming you for anything. I dont think you should be taking credit for anything either. Merely pointing out even if your petition was listened to, which I doubt, obviously the game is still in decline. So even if you won you lost.


Believe me

Thats becoming less and less likely.

crb
04-24-2008, 10:40 AM
Yes best to live with the status quo. Keeping the game the same and never expanding or adding will keep people happy. Sure.
You'd have to be dense to not realize that this game is built upon social interaction and that spreading the populace out over a larger area decreases opportunity for such interaction.

It is like a nightclub, your dance floor can't be too big.



Merely pointing out even if your petition was listened to, which I doubt, obviously the game is still in decline. So even if you won you lost.


Nothing like revisionist history from someone who wasn't even there, apparently.

g++
04-24-2008, 10:44 AM
Heh get fucked you love to discount people opinions because of what you assume about them. I was there for the change over. I was there when it moved to the internet.

CrystalTears
04-24-2008, 10:46 AM
You'd have to be dense to not realize that this game is built upon social interaction and that spreading the populace out over a larger area decreases opportunity for such interaction.

It is like a nightclub, your dance floor can't be too big.
I do realize it's built on interaction, and even with all the expansions, I never have a problem running into people. There is still variety and ability to roam around. People like to have choices. If they kept expanding only the landing and surrounding areas and never add new places to go to, people would quit much faster.

It's not as busy as it once was, but it's not Platinum population.

crb
04-24-2008, 11:00 AM
I do realize it's built on interaction, and even with all the expansions, I never have a problem running into people. There is still variety and ability to roam around. People like to have choices. If they kept expanding only the landing and surrounding areas and never add new places to go to, people would quit much faster.

It's not as busy as it once was, but it's not Platinum population.
Do you remember though, how it used to be? What we have now doesn't compare to when you'd find 10-20 people to talk to at any node you wanted to rest at.

This is one reason I strongly recommend Simutronics cut prices or create a new very cheap pricing tier as well as increase the length of their free trial. Adding more players provide an exponential benefit as the amount of social interation increases on an exponential curve with the more people that there are. In addition to hopefully getting people hooked and then profiting on the upsell.

crb
04-24-2008, 11:02 AM
The best example is probably 500 ticket merchant events (like last years EG, or the Anfelt), the amount of interation and RP available there is like what the entire game should be, all the time. But it is just too big now for too few people.

crb
04-24-2008, 11:05 AM
Heh get fucked you love to discount people opinions because of what you assume about them. I was there for the change over. I was there when it moved to the internet.

Well you posted about it as if you weren't there.

You said "if your petition made a difference, which I doubt" that, to me, isn't a statement someone who remembers would make. You'd either say it did, or it didn't.

FWIW simu did change their plan, the plan they adopted was very close to what was on the petition page, and I had even spoke with Melissa over the phone about it. That is the timeline, draw your own conclusions. I care not, as I've said before, I'm proud.

CrystalTears
04-24-2008, 11:17 AM
Do you remember though, how it used to be? What we have now doesn't compare to when you'd find 10-20 people to talk to at any node you wanted to rest at.
Sure it used to be a lot more. But truthfully, as much as I have my grudges with Simu, this is not entirely their fault. Too many games out there being introduced and it's hard to keep a gathering with text games. I'm actually quite amazed at how the game is still going.


This is one reason I strongly recommend Simutronics cut prices or create a new very cheap pricing tier as well as increase the length of their free trial. Adding more players provide an exponential benefit as the amount of social interation increases on an exponential curve with the more people that there are. In addition to hopefully getting people hooked and then profiting on the upsell.
This is where I believe Simu dropped the ball. Their inflated prices. They can go on and on about how they need to increase fees to go with inflation. But if they would just reduce the prices, it would encourage more people to try it, other people to return.

Even though it's a text game, it's still a game that has to compete with other popular games out like WoW, AoC and even Sims, where you can have dozens of characters for a small price, while in GS you can have one character and have to pay more to get another one. It's truly ridiculous, and many people don't find the value in it as much as it once did.


Well you posted about it as if you weren't there.

You said "if your petition made a difference, which I doubt" that, to me, isn't a statement someone who remembers would make. You'd either say it did, or it didn't.
Because neither you or anyone else here can prove or disprove that your petition had anything to do with any changes that took place in GS. Unless Simu personally responded to you and said they were going to do X and Y because of it, which at that point, you should let us know what they said. And apparently they did...


FWIW simu did change their plan, the plan they adopted was very close to what was on the petition page, and I had even spoke with Melissa over the phone about it. That is the timeline, draw your own conclusions. I care not, as I've said before, I'm proud.
For some reason, I'm not really buying that Melissa took time to call you and talk to you about it, but if you say so. I'd rather hear what she said exactly, rather than say "I spoke to Melissa ON THE PHONE OMG" like a teenager who got his first girl phone call.

g++
04-24-2008, 11:21 AM
Well you posted about it as if you weren't there.

You said "if your petition made a difference, which I doubt" that, to me, isn't a statement someone who remembers would make. You'd either say it did, or it didn't.

FWIW simu did change their plan, the plan they adopted was very close to what was on the petition page, and I had even spoke with Melissa over the phone about it. That is the timeline, draw your own conclusions. I care not, as I've said before, I'm proud.

Just because I didnt sign your petition and me and Melissa arent BFF's does not mean I was not around. Believe it or not the most important thing in my life at the time was not gemstone III development plans, I know where was my head at. This is possibly because, like you, I am not on the staff of simutronics. I vaguely remember Angellisa sending me a link to your petition being puzzled about why people would start a petition to change development plans and then never going back. Although I do use your alchemy page now.

Blud
04-24-2008, 11:25 AM
Too many games out there being introduced and it's hard to keep a gathering with text games. I'm actually quite amazed at how the game is still going.


This is where I believe Simu dropped the ball. Their inflated prices.

QFT

crb
04-24-2008, 12:04 PM
This is where I believe Simu dropped the ball. Their inflated prices. They can go on and on about how they need to increase fees to go with inflation. But if they would just reduce the prices, it would encourage more people to try it, other people to return.

Even though it's a text game, it's still a game that has to compete with other popular games out like WoW, AoC and even Sims, where you can have dozens of characters for a small price, while in GS you can have one character and have to pay more to get another one. It's truly ridiculous, and many people don't find the value in it as much as it once did.


Especially considering how all their related technology costs have plummeted.

When they first started bandwidth was expensive, hardware was expensive, even IT personnel were expensive. Now you got really cheap bandwidth, really cheap hardware, and the supply of IT labor has drastically increased.

Methais
04-24-2008, 02:06 PM
Especially considering how all their related technology costs have plummeted.

When they first started bandwidth was expensive, hardware was expensive, even IT personnel were expensive. Now you got really cheap bandwidth, really cheap hardware, and the supply of IT labor has drastically increased.

Not to mention the majority of their GMs work pretty much for free. Simu really has no reasonable excuse for GS being priced the way it is.

Next thing you know they'll raise the price again and blame it on gas prices.

Tea & Strumpets
04-24-2008, 02:52 PM
Not to mention the majority of their GMs work pretty much for free. Simu really has no reasonable excuse for GS being priced the way it is.

Next thing you know they'll raise the price again and blame it on gas prices.

They don't work for free, they get points to enchant imaginary items.

On topic, I remember one time when you got in a fight with a cleric, and the cleric bound you, cast 125 at you, and then sancted. There were a few people around and no one could cast elemental dispel* at the cloud (the only dispel at that point, other than breeze), and you were fucking furious. I think the cleric was Cydren and I have no idea why I remember that.

Way #434 to die in a sanct.

*There were people around that could cast it, but you can't cast it in a sanct because it's a spell of war.

Some Rogue
04-24-2008, 03:17 PM
lol murpa

Rocktar
04-25-2008, 03:35 PM
Emeradan is the same jewel of customer service that blocked one of my posts to the Rogues Banter replying to someone calling me a nutjob because I choose to own firearms and stated my intent to use them to defend my house and family. And then, got all pissy because I got angry with him in e-mail because he thought it fair to leave the post calling me such, block my post in reply and then redirect the thread to someplace for political discussions. Yeah, like someone is going to go looking for my rebuttal of a buttnugget calling me a nutjob in public. Yeah, all's fair in Disneyland GS where it is ok to spew Liberal Fanatic pablam but evil, mean and nasty to reply to it, or, heaven forbid, to object to having it flung in the first place.

Rocktar the Scumbag

Warriorbird
04-25-2008, 03:40 PM
I'm liberal about a lot of stuff. I consider not being ridiculous about gun control part of that. I think Emeradan spends time on crazy power trips. With that said... if you got no warning it may have just been considered Off Topic.

Methais
04-25-2008, 10:59 PM
Emeradan is the same jewel of customer service that blocked one of my posts to the Rogues Banter replying to someone calling me a nutjob because I choose to own firearms and stated my intent to use them to defend my house and family. And then, got all pissy because I got angry with him in e-mail because he thought it fair to leave the post calling me such, block my post in reply and then redirect the thread to someplace for political discussions. Yeah, like someone is going to go looking for my rebuttal of a buttnugget calling me a nutjob in public. Yeah, all's fair in Disneyland GS where it is ok to spew Liberal Fanatic pablam but evil, mean and nasty to reply to it, or, heaven forbid, to object to having it flung in the first place.

Rocktar the Scumbag

Technically that guy's post should have been removed on the officials just because he called you a nutjob. I'd bitch to feedback about it. Emeradan's a waste of life.

Peanut Butter Jelly Time
04-25-2008, 11:00 PM
Yeah, you nutjob.

Rocktar
04-26-2008, 11:16 AM
Well, it's a little late now, but you can bet your sweet, lightened, padded armor I will bring it up if it ever happens again. I should have saved all my e-mails about it too. Oh well.

And while I might be a survivalist whacko, and know way more than most people should know about a lot of distasteful things, I am not a nutjob. If only, I could get 3 squares a day, TV, internet and not have to clean up after my daughter.

Rocktar

Peanut Butter Jelly Time
04-26-2008, 12:03 PM
I didn't know Comcast will come and install cable into trees.

Parkbandit
04-26-2008, 12:42 PM
Right, because I have documentation about all the trouble you got into when you first started playing, I break into Simu on a nightly basis and get printous... that is a reasonable request. I also lost all my old logs when I switched computers in 99 and forgot to transfer them over.

You were a huge trouble maker, you got in trouble lots of times, I was there when you got pulled up. I was there when GMs came down and told you to stop.

Eventually I moved to Teras, and so didn't see you again, and maybe, like most people you grew up, in RL and in the game.

why lie about this? What player hasn't been inside the consultant lounge ever?

Unless of course, Falgrin was bought and you weren't the original owner. The original one was just another generic troublemaker, the kind that usually ends up being banned.

I think I've probably killed you more repeated times than anyone else I've ever interacted with in game, and I never got a warning, reminder, or a SEND for any of those. Not that I've never gotten a warning, I won't lie, I've gotten plenty, especially when I first started, when I was more tempermental, I just never got one for killing you. In fact, as I recall, I used itchy curse on you once to steal a backpack of gear and, the WARN verb not being in existence then, the GM (you called) made you swear never to interact/harass/steal from with me again in order to get it back. I didn't get a warning for that one either.

Be honest, I'm sure we're both more mature than we were then, there is no reason to lie about your troubled past.



You can become a gamemaster the day after you implode town square, it's happened.


There is a HUGE difference between being pulled up into the lounge.. and being pulled up into the lounge and given a warning. One is something that has happened to me.. one is something that hasn't. Can you guess which one hasn't happened to me? Here, I'll give you a hint.. it's the same thing I posted that hasn't happened to me.. getting a warning. I've gotten one warning in GS.. and that was something over the forums.

You didn't like Falgrin because he stole from you. Boo hoo. I believe you were in the top 5 marks of Falgrin, according to the Wezas Log Analyser.. which makes me happy.. and clearly you still upset. Let it go pal.. it was only silver. And gems. And wands.

Parkbandit
04-26-2008, 12:46 PM
What a stupid thing to say. I'm probably more well known and more powerful in comparison to other sorcerers now than at any point previous.

I really love how all these noobs make assumptions about me going back over a decade and then try to insult me based on it. If someone like Parkbandit wants to insult me based on supposed prior behavior, he atleast knew me. To say I used to be king of sorcerers and now I'm not is just ridiculous. I wasn't even the oldest dwarf sorcerer for much of the 90s. Simmer, Karhl, Malok, Tarakan, Briars earlier, etc etc. I was never one of the oldest sorcerers until most of those people (and many others) quit, or cut way back, or in the case of Tarakan, decided to focus on fame instead of advancement.

:rofl: @ your self importance again. Let me get this straight.. not only did you save Gemstone, but you also believe you are famous. Sorry to burst your bubble chump.. the only reason you were 'famous' was the same reasons people like Foxs, Warclaidhm and Vif 'famous'. No one ever considered you a good roleplayer. Ever.

You were and clearly still are a joke.

Parkbandit
04-26-2008, 01:00 PM
This just in:

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e6/belike53/Virilneus.jpg

Gan
04-26-2008, 01:32 PM
hahahaha

Winner.

Methais
04-26-2008, 11:29 PM
I do realize it's built on interaction, and even with all the expansions, I never have a problem running into people. There is still variety and ability to roam around. People like to have choices. If they kept expanding only the landing and surrounding areas and never add new places to go to, people would quit much faster.

It's not as busy as it once was, but it's not Platinum population.

Eh, I think Simu making such huge expansions was under the assumption that nobody was going to quit, which is a stupid and shortsighted thing, which is typical of Simu's decision making.

Most of Simu's ideas are good on paper, shitty in execution. I liked things better when there were 472380942904 people in Town Square at any given time. Now it's not uncommon to walk into the park and have only a few people there, if anyone at all, depending on the time of day/night.


They don't work for free, they get points to enchant imaginary items.

On topic, I remember one time when you got in a fight with a cleric, and the cleric bound you, cast 125 at you, and then sancted. There were a few people around and no one could cast elemental dispel* at the cloud (the only dispel at that point, other than breeze), and you were fucking furious. I think the cleric was Cydren and I have no idea why I remember that.

Way #434 to die in a sanct.

*There were people around that could cast it, but you can't cast it in a sanct because it's a spell of war.

I don't remember anyone named Cydren (but apparently I knew him at some point cause he's still highlighted as a cleric), but I don't doubt the incident, or me being pissed off about it. Minor Sanct is the dumbest spell in the game, ever.

And Emeradan's still a sweaty cunthole.

Fallen
04-26-2008, 11:57 PM
Ceyrin, he likely means. It was a popular tactic of his. For some reason I am thinking he became Oscuro or Estild.

crb
04-27-2008, 09:00 AM
:rofl: @ your self importance again. Let me get this straight.. not only did you save Gemstone, but you also believe you are famous. Sorry to burst your bubble chump.. the only reason you were 'famous' was the same reasons people like Foxs, Warclaidhm and Vif 'famous'. No one ever considered you a good roleplayer. Ever.

You were and clearly still are a joke.
Is English your second language? Honestly.

You sometimes seem intelligent enough to have a reasonable argument, but othertimes you're just another generic Internet douche, visiting a forum for a game you no longer play, and making shit up in arguments.

Saying I am more well-known and powerful now that I was back before the changes, as a response to someone who claimed I was merely spiteful about losing my position as "king of the sorcerers" is not the same thing as claiming I'm the most famous sorcerer, or the most powerful sorcerer. Anymore than saying I am older in RL now, than I was then, is saying I am the oldest human being on the planet.

This is basic sentence structure and reading comprehension. Do you understand the difference between a relative comparison and an absolute statement? For someone who believes immigrants should learn English, you don't seem to have a great grasp on it yourself.

Or you could, you know, not twist words when trying to win a forum argument as if your day is going to be ruined by not scoring enough Gotcha points on the Internet.

And honestly, saying I'm still bitter about being stolen from by a twit who I killed many many times in game is ridiculous. They're only silvers, and though there was no sting back then you probably got the worse end of things with all the curses and deaths and whatnot. Quite frankly, you seem to be the one with the obsession over me, still mad at all the times I killed you or made you beg to get your gear back. You're almost as bad as StrayRogue (though not as bad, I never interacted with him in game even to my knowledge, you at least have an excuse for your obsessive hate). I don't even visit these forums often or participate here much, and yet how many times have you posted negatively about me here, even years after we'd last had an interaction? Your anger is almost palpable.

Either you're way too obsessive about things that happened long ago. Or, you're way too obsessive about me that, even though you do not play anymore, you still follow my actions and goings on like some kind of obsessive stalker, so you can say to yourself "Look what the loser did now..." Either obsession is unhealthy.

So, my question to you, is if I'm such a loser, so dumb, so annoying, so clueless, whatever the insult dujour is. Then why not simply ignore me? Why am I worth your time to find every thread remotely discussing me, and post an insult in it? Why am I worth your time to find every post I make or thread I start and come down on me, regardless of the topic?

Admittedly, I jumped in in this thread, but you were lying through your teeth and some of the sycophants here who are probably impressed with your post count (my, what a big penis you must have) might not have actually known your character in the late-mid 90s, I did though, and I knew it was a lie.

So please, respond to this post, call me an obsessed loser, post another graphic showing me as a pimply faced teenager obsessed with being 'the best' online, implying IRL I must have a shitty life or whatever. Whatever makes you feel good dude. But, think to yourself, privately, for me, if maybe, just maybe, you resemble the remarks you paint others with.

Warriorbird
04-27-2008, 09:39 AM
Post count OR GS levels = same amount of epeen. Parkbandit and I rarely agree on much but I don't think he gives a damn how many times he's posted. As Longshot said recently, most of us post here to see the responses of people we'd probably never hang out with on a day to day basis. GS street cred has fuck all to do with it though there is certainly plenty to go around.

I think he's responding because you're amusing. You don't have the rules of the officials to hide behind here so most folks consider it game on. Maybe you should do a self analysis about how moronic your posting there makes you come off.

Tea & Strumpets
04-27-2008, 09:57 AM
Ceyrin, he likely means. It was a popular tactic of his. For some reason I am thinking he became Oscuro or Estild.

Nar, it was Cydren.

Parkbandit
04-27-2008, 10:04 AM
Is English your second language? Honestly.

You sometimes seem intelligent enough to have a reasonable argument, but othertimes you're just another generic Internet douche, visiting a forum for a game you no longer play, and making shit up in arguments.

Saying I am more well-known and powerful now that I was back before the changes, as a response to someone who claimed I was merely spiteful about losing my position as "king of the sorcerers" is not the same thing as claiming I'm the most famous sorcerer, or the most powerful sorcerer. Anymore than saying I am older in RL now, than I was then, is saying I am the oldest human being on the planet.

This is basic sentence structure and reading comprehension. Do you understand the difference between a relative comparison and an absolute statement? For someone who believes immigrants should learn English, you don't seem to have a great grasp on it yourself.

Or you could, you know, not twist words when trying to win a forum argument as if your day is going to be ruined by not scoring enough Gotcha points on the Internet.

And honestly, saying I'm still bitter about being stolen from by a twit who I killed many many times in game is ridiculous. They're only silvers, and though there was no sting back then you probably got the worse end of things with all the curses and deaths and whatnot. Quite frankly, you seem to be the one with the obsession over me, still mad at all the times I killed you or made you beg to get your gear back. You're almost as bad as StrayRogue (though not as bad, I never interacted with him in game even to my knowledge, you at least have an excuse for your obsessive hate). I don't even visit these forums often or participate here much, and yet how many times have you posted negatively about me here, even years after we'd last had an interaction? Your anger is almost palpable.

Either you're way too obsessive about things that happened long ago. Or, you're way too obsessive about me that, even though you do not play anymore, you still follow my actions and goings on like some kind of obsessive stalker, so you can say to yourself "Look what the loser did now..." Either obsession is unhealthy.

So, my question to you, is if I'm such a loser, so dumb, so annoying, so clueless, whatever the insult dujour is. Then why not simply ignore me? Why am I worth your time to find every thread remotely discussing me, and post an insult in it? Why am I worth your time to find every post I make or thread I start and come down on me, regardless of the topic?

Admittedly, I jumped in in this thread, but you were lying through your teeth and some of the sycophants here who are probably impressed with your post count (my, what a big penis you must have) might not have actually known your character in the late-mid 90s, I did though, and I knew it was a lie.

So please, respond to this post, call me an obsessed loser, post another graphic showing me as a pimply faced teenager obsessed with being 'the best' online, implying IRL I must have a shitty life or whatever. Whatever makes you feel good dude. But, think to yourself, privately, for me, if maybe, just maybe, you resemble the remarks you paint others with.

Obsessive hate? :rofl: I completely forgot about you until you brought it up chump. And even then, I had to try and remember some know nothing little sorcerer who thought he was important... and I was like "Oh yea, Viral or something like that"

Sorry to burst your bubble GS Superman.. but I couldn't give two shits how important you think you are in a text based game.. or how you think you saved the game single handedly. I find you amusing.. in a sad sort of way.. and you entertain me with your ego.

If you want the attention to stop.. you can either stop now before you start crying.. or pull a Backlash. Either way, I couldn't care less.

Parkbandit
04-27-2008, 10:05 AM
Post count OR GS levels = same amount of epeen. Parkbandit and I rarely agree on much but I don't think he gives a damn how many times he's posted. As Longshot said recently, most of us post here to see the responses of people we'd probably never hang out with on a day to day basis. GS street cred has fuck all to do with it though there is certainly plenty to go around.

I think he's responding because you're amusing. You don't have the rules of the officials to hide behind here so most folks consider it game on. Maybe you should do a self analysis about how moronic your posting there makes you come off.

I still have hope for you WB.. it's slight.. but it's there.

And I haven't read the officials since I was banned for 3 months. Oh, and that was my only warning.

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e6/belike53/internet-soldier.jpg

Drisco
04-27-2008, 10:32 AM
Is English your second language? Honestly.

You sometimes seem intelligent enough to have a reasonable argument, but othertimes you're just another generic Internet douche, visiting a forum for a game you no longer play, and making shit up in arguments.

Saying I am more well-known and powerful now that I was back before the changes, as a response to someone who claimed I was merely spiteful about losing my position as "king of the sorcerers" is not the same thing as claiming I'm the most famous sorcerer, or the most powerful sorcerer. Anymore than saying I am older in RL now, than I was then, is saying I am the oldest human being on the planet.

This is basic sentence structure and reading comprehension. Do you understand the difference between a relative comparison and an absolute statement? For someone who believes immigrants should learn English, you don't seem to have a great grasp on it yourself.

Or you could, you know, not twist words when trying to win a forum argument as if your day is going to be ruined by not scoring enough Gotcha points on the Internet.

And honestly, saying I'm still bitter about being stolen from by a twit who I killed many many times in game is ridiculous. They're only silvers, and though there was no sting back then you probably got the worse end of things with all the curses and deaths and whatnot. Quite frankly, you seem to be the one with the obsession over me, still mad at all the times I killed you or made you beg to get your gear back. You're almost as bad as StrayRogue (though not as bad, I never interacted with him in game even to my knowledge, you at least have an excuse for your obsessive hate). I don't even visit these forums often or participate here much, and yet how many times have you posted negatively about me here, even years after we'd last had an interaction? Your anger is almost palpable.

Either you're way too obsessive about things that happened long ago. Or, you're way too obsessive about me that, even though you do not play anymore, you still follow my actions and goings on like some kind of obsessive stalker, so you can say to yourself "Look what the loser did now..." Either obsession is unhealthy.

So, my question to you, is if I'm such a loser, so dumb, so annoying, so clueless, whatever the insult dujour is. Then why not simply ignore me? Why am I worth your time to find every thread remotely discussing me, and post an insult in it? Why am I worth your time to find every post I make or thread I start and come down on me, regardless of the topic?

Admittedly, I jumped in in this thread, but you were lying through your teeth and some of the sycophants here who are probably impressed with your post count (my, what a big penis you must have) might not have actually known your character in the late-mid 90s, I did though, and I knew it was a lie.

So please, respond to this post, call me an obsessed loser, post another graphic showing me as a pimply faced teenager obsessed with being 'the best' online, implying IRL I must have a shitty life or whatever. Whatever makes you feel good dude. But, think to yourself, privately, for me, if maybe, just maybe, you resemble the remarks you paint others with.



Good god you sound like the biggest douchebag ever. He is now so important that everyone that hates him or wants to talk shit about him, is inevitably obsessed with him. FFS man you are just a fucking whiner we all like to make fun of and you don't seem to get it.

crb
04-27-2008, 11:14 AM
Good god you sound like the biggest douchebag ever. He is now so important that everyone that hates him or wants to talk shit about him, is inevitably obsessed with him. FFS man you are just a fucking whiner we all like to make fun of and you don't seem to get it.

Oh Drisco, it isn't that I don't get it, I just don't care.

Like the other day on psinet Jamus and I were arguing and you just kept repeating "Viril is a whiny bitch." I never responded to you, and no one else did, because no one cares.

If I ever got upset because someone insulted me over the Internet I think I would shoot myself.

So yes Drisco, I get it, you think I'm a loser, a whiny bitch, a douche. You've said so (and not much else) many times now. I get it, I just don't care. I would question if you perhaps you do it for attention, or what? I mean, saying roughly the same thing on psinet like 20 times in 20 minutes when no one is responding smells of an attention whore.

I'm going to go out on a ledge here and hypothesize that the very fact that your juvenile insults don't phase me is probably what tweaks you to repeat them. You're seeing it as a superiority complex, as if anyone would dare to not get upset by being called a douche by you over the Internet, as if anyone who could brush off your obviously well thought out insults is just too arrogant to be left alone.

Sorry dude, it isn't arrogance, its a side affect of being an adult, who has a happy, fulfilling, and successful life.

Make it your signature Drisco, "Virilneus is a whiny bitch douche," really, it doesn't bother me one bit. In fact, if I wasn't doing alchemy and stuck in RT with nothing else to do, I probably wouldn't have even bothered to right this post and had just let you bleat like you did on PSInet.

Asha
04-27-2008, 12:23 PM
Gold gold gold.

Drisco
04-27-2008, 01:12 PM
Oh Drisco, it isn't that I don't get it, I just don't care.

Like the other day on psinet Jamus and I were arguing and you just kept repeating "Viril is a whiny bitch." I never responded to you, and no one else did, because no one cares.

If I ever got upset because someone insulted me over the Internet I think I would shoot myself.

So yes Drisco, I get it, you think I'm a loser, a whiny bitch, a douche. You've said so (and not much else) many times now. I get it, I just don't care. I would question if you perhaps you do it for attention, or what? I mean, saying roughly the same thing on psinet like 20 times in 20 minutes when no one is responding smells of an attention whore.

I'm going to go out on a ledge here and hypothesize that the very fact that your juvenile insults don't phase me is probably what tweaks you to repeat them. You're seeing it as a superiority complex, as if anyone would dare to not get upset by being called a douche by you over the Internet, as if anyone who could brush off your obviously well thought out insults is just too arrogant to be left alone.

Sorry dude, it isn't arrogance, its a side affect of being an adult, who has a happy, fulfilling, and successful life.

Make it your signature Drisco, "Virilneus is a whiny bitch douche," really, it doesn't bother me one bit. In fact, if I wasn't doing alchemy and stuck in RT with nothing else to do, I probably wouldn't have even bothered to right this post and had just let you bleat like you did on PSInet.



Awwww.. Viril.. You shouldn't have! You don't care but you seem to write huge walls of texts to explain how you don't care.. Oh but like only cause you are totally like stuck in like RT.

I keep repeating how you are a whiny bitch due to the fact that you don't seem to get it the first time.. I am trying to give you advice but you keep whining.... like a bitch... I just don't understand how you don't see that? I don't think you are a loser, no no. I never said you are a loser. I said you once again... whine like a bitch. My "Juvenile" insults have been getting to you.. Proven above how you took time out of your busy schedule to write me a bunch of paragraphs of stupid shit.

To sum it up. By you posting this, you care. No matter how you twist it, you care and I think its funny...

But, but, but I only wrote it cause I was in RT.. Or because I just wanted to tell you it didn't bother me... Or like like QQ Waaaa...




Sorry DUDEE, it isn't arrogance, its a side affect of being a whiny child, who has a sad, unfulfilling, and unsuccessful life which I feel the need to express how cool and important I am in a MUD game. I R WINNA AT GS.

Fixed.

Methais
04-27-2008, 01:18 PM
Can we talk about something interesting in this thread now? Like the possible side effects of using sandpaper in place of toilet paper?

Latrinsorm
04-27-2008, 02:01 PM
I'm of the impression there will be blood.

Methais
04-27-2008, 03:04 PM
Only if you scrub really hard.

LG422
04-27-2008, 08:40 PM
And Emeradan's still a sweaty cunthole.


I like sweaty cuntholes...depending on the sweat.I DO NOT LIKE that STINKY CUNTHOLE Emeradan...Details coming soon(cleanin the log)...actually let's call him a COCKbite.

LG422
04-27-2008, 11:27 PM
Last night at the beginning of the hairy child incident in Solhaven the following "episode" happened between my bard Danelo and Emeradan.
The part that BUGs me the most about the whole thing is that it actually occurred to me that if the stupid COCKroach had run I would have ended up singing COCK and I figured one of the GM idiots would have soaped me. So when I actually slept the stupid Roach and then the fool warned me(retrospectively in jest) I sat there a second kind of floored. It BUGS me even more that this fucking stupid CENSOR happy asshole ACTUALLY went out of his way to make something of a non-incident into something. Even if I HAD actually sang cock outloud...its an OOC flub that should be ignored by the strict role players considering the COCKroaches running around.
Until I came here looking for people bitching about the new "TAYRE" Terms for empaths I had not really seen this thread and was fairly indifferent to the GMs because they caution me all the time...its just another stupid idiot in orange sending to me. SO having read this thread and learning of Emeradan's hard on for censoring people and locking them out..it bothers me MORESO that he saw the need to point out to me that I had said a word that nobody could see that CAN refer to the part of the male anatomy he loves most...in his ass...even though the context of my use was obvious. Here's the cleaned short version of the verable exchange..I will post a more expansive cleaned log of the incident following this if anyone wants better context..


>prep 1005
You change your tune slightly, adding the element for Lullabye to your song...
Your spellsong is ready.

>sing roa
What were you referring to?

>sing roach
What were you referring to?

>sing cock
You weave another verse into your harmony, directing the sound of your voice at a giant cockroach.
The giant cockroach falls to the ground in a deep slumber.


SEND[Emeradan] Funny, but be careful.

>report excuse me?

SEND[Emeradan] You have NO idea what you sang, do you? ;)

>report You need to check yourself..I DO..your mind is in the gutter..the word cock is entirely acceptable..its a male rooster

SEND[Emeradan] And if there were a male rooster in the room, I'd check myself. :)

SEND[Emeradan] Next time, though, I'll refrain from poking fun at something that's slightly humorous and, instead, assume the worst. Evening.

>report and there are COCKROACHES honestly I am livid at your conduct

SEND[Emeradan] Again, evening.

>report again I shall be placing a complaint..evening

SEND[Emeradan] Enjoy.

SayGoodbye
04-27-2008, 11:35 PM
Did he actually warn you, or was that it? Because if that was all that happened, it looks like he was just kidding with you and you don't know how to take a joke.

diethx
04-27-2008, 11:39 PM
Did he actually warn you, or was that it? Because if that was all that happened, it looks like he was just kidding with you and you don't know how to take a joke.

He wasn't kidding. He was giving him a "polite" warning.

LG422
04-27-2008, 11:43 PM
Did he actually warn you, or was that it? Because if that was all that happened, it looks like he was just kidding with you and you don't know how to take a joke.

I can take a joke..I joke all the time..its THOSE shit heels that CAN'T take a joke. ALSO...the SEND is intended for official use..its just GMs abuse the FUCK out of it. If they want to enforce the rules..they need to follow them. Think of what this fucking TOAD has done to people with his lockouts and censorship of the boards? Additionally, there was more stuff going on..and I was using my big tv from 7 feet away as a screen and its a lot less easy to follow details. Next time they actually caution me I will just say..oh..yer just kidding right? Go suck a COCK.

SayGoodbye
04-28-2008, 12:40 AM
SEND[Emeradan] Next time, though, I'll refrain from poking fun at something that's slightly humorous

That's the part I figured he was kidding. I guess I would have just shot back with "well maybe you should have called them roaches" or something and not "I shall be placing a complaint."

Then again, he might have been trying to be a dick. I don't really know what he's like personally.

diethx
04-28-2008, 01:14 AM
Then again, he might have been trying to be a dick. I don't really know what he's like personally.

If it were another GM (not Andraste), I would agree with you 100%. But he's made a career out of being a dick.

Bobmuhthol
04-28-2008, 01:24 AM
<<ALSO...the SEND is intended for official use..its just GMs abuse the FUCK out of it.>>

For the same reason that a government can never break its laws, a GM can never abuse his commands.

Miscast
04-28-2008, 03:36 AM
SEND[Emeradan] Funny, but be careful.

What an asshole.

Nieninque
04-28-2008, 03:41 AM
>report again I shall be placing a complaint..evening

Twat

Methais
04-28-2008, 03:53 AM
Twatwaffle

Some Rogue
04-28-2008, 09:58 AM
Fuck Emeradouche....he's on a mission lately to pull my posts.

Some homo posts this, another in a long line of stupid posts from him calling on the GM's to nerf this or that or generally make the game worse or him whining about Plat not getting enough:



Would people trained as "healbots" be better at it than people trained to heal AND hunt. Damn right they would! They trained for it. I'm sorry I can't see that as a bad thing.

Keith/Kithus/Brinret



I replied with...

Perhaps you should apply to be a GM. You seem to enjoy nerfing things as opposed to making others better.


That's really disruptive and attacking another player? 99% of what I post is helpful or "constructive" and he has to zero in on petty little shit like this. I don't know why I even bother to post there.

Fallen
04-28-2008, 10:06 AM
Some Rogue = Xatier? Xatier seems like you, just a bit more sensored because of being on the officials.

Asha
04-28-2008, 10:07 AM
Fuck Emeradouche.... I don't know why I even bother to post there.

Cleared that right up for you.
You want anything official worth hearing about.. it'll show up here from Fallen usually.

CrystalTears
04-28-2008, 10:08 AM
Some Rogue = Xatier? Xatier seems like you, just a bit more sensored because of being on the officials.

Nope

Suppa Hobbit Mage
04-28-2008, 10:23 AM
>sing cock
You weave another verse into your harmony, directing the sound of your voice at a giant cock

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y216/imagedream/Funny/pe24.jpg

Some Rogue
04-28-2008, 10:34 AM
Some Rogue = Xatier? Xatier seems like you, just a bit more sensored because of being on the officials.

No

Methais
04-28-2008, 02:19 PM
Fuck Emeradouche....he's on a mission lately to pull my posts.

Some homo posts this, another in a long line of stupid posts from him calling on the GM's to nerf this or that or generally make the game worse or him whining about Plat not getting enough:



I replied with...

Perhaps you should apply to be a GM. You seem to enjoy nerfing things as opposed to making others better.


That's really disruptive and attacking another player? 99% of what I post is helpful or "constructive" and he has to zero in on petty little shit like this. I don't know why I even bother to post there.

Emeradan must have had a seriously rough time in high school.

On an unrelated note, since we're on the topic of douchebag moderators, I once got banned from the WoW forums for "linking pornography" from putting www.goatse.cx in a post, despite the fact that that link doesn't work anymore, as the original goatse site was taken down years before WoW even came out.

/facepalm

LG422
04-28-2008, 02:24 PM
SO..I posted this on the officials..and...GUESS who pulled it.
He did it for the very last sentence about leaking.

I had been gone from Gemstone for years. I came back for a little look and I was
mostly having a good time. I was actually about to call today to inquire about
bringing back a certain Legend wizard I once had that was lost.
IF it was possible I would have paid the restoral fee etc and had a FOURTH
account open. Instead..I just became DISGUSTED beyond compare. I am SERIOUSLY
thinking of requesting a refund for the month I just paid for as this was NOT
the service I paid for. My intentions were to come back for ONE month and be
gone. Instead I stayed for a second month which I would NOT have done if this
change were known.
Are you people THIS clueless? This has caused MOST of your customers a LOT of
stress. Gemstone is supposed to be our stress relief. My life is a pain of
agonizing slowness. I am from the New Orleans area and healing with my empath
now reminds me of ALL the red tape we deal with here post Katrina...FEMA,Flood
Elevations, Road Home,Insurance companies holding up payments,Not enough bad
contractors much less good ones...and the list goes on. Coming back to Gemstone
was an escape from that....as it is for others with their own set or
troubles...instead..its a CHORE. Why am I going to pay for something that gives
me stress and makes me unhappy? I run a business and am a landlord and I always
shake my head at Simu's idea of whats acceptable business practices. I had a few
friends I was getting pumped up about coming back...SWIIIIIIIIISH...thats gone
now.
You may have a STORYLINE..but if ya do..get it done in DAYS. and announce the
end result. Here's a hint...we KNEW Annakin becomes Darth Vader before seeing
the movie yet MANY went and spent. In a situation like this...where we have
actual future plans to make...TELL US. LEAK IT like they do in
politics...GEEZ...you GMs leak everything else to yer buds.
==== END COPY OF POST ====

BigWorm
04-28-2008, 02:36 PM
I would have pulled it for lack of a grasp of the English language.

If you want people to take you seriously, use punctuation and spaces.

Methais
04-28-2008, 02:37 PM
SO..I posted this on the officials..and...GUESS who pulled it.
He did it for the very last sentence about leaking.

I had been gone from Gemstone for years. I came back for a little look and I was
mostly having a good time. I was actually about to call today to inquire about
bringing back a certain Legend wizard I once had that was lost.
IF it was possible I would have paid the restoral fee etc and had a FOURTH
account open. Instead..I just became DISGUSTED beyond compare. I am SERIOUSLY
thinking of requesting a refund for the month I just paid for as this was NOT
the service I paid for. My intentions were to come back for ONE month and be
gone. Instead I stayed for a second month which I would NOT have done if this
change were known.
Are you people THIS clueless? This has caused MOST of your customers a LOT of
stress. Gemstone is supposed to be our stress relief. My life is a pain of
agonizing slowness. I am from the New Orleans area and healing with my empath
now reminds me of ALL the red tape we deal with here post Katrina...FEMA,Flood
Elevations, Road Home,Insurance companies holding up payments,Not enough bad
contractors much less good ones...and the list goes on. Coming back to Gemstone
was an escape from that....as it is for others with their own set or
troubles...instead..its a CHORE. Why am I going to pay for something that gives
me stress and makes me unhappy? I run a business and am a landlord and I always
shake my head at Simu's idea of whats acceptable business practices. I had a few
friends I was getting pumped up about coming back...SWIIIIIIIIISH...thats gone
now.
You may have a STORYLINE..but if ya do..get it done in DAYS. and announce the
end result. Here's a hint...we KNEW Annakin becomes Darth Vader before seeing
the movie yet MANY went and spent. In a situation like this...where we have
actual future plans to make...TELL US. LEAK IT like they do in
politics...GEEZ...you GMs leak everything else to yer buds.
==== END COPY OF POST ====

Jesus, it must be Emeradan's time of the month this week...on top of him being a complete asshole all the time anyway.


If you want people to take you seriously, use punctuation and spaces.

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WTFHOW3VER BLIZARD KNAW TAHT TH3Y CUD ONLEY AD SO MUCH REAL CONT3NT 2 TEH GM3 WITHOUT MAKNG A BUNCH OF IL-CONC3IEVD GARBAEG!!1!11!!1 OMGTEH PROBLEM THAY FAECD WAS HOW 2 GAT PLAEYRS 2 KEP SUBSCRIBNG AFTER THEY HAEV RUN OUT OF CONTENT OR MORA COMONLEY SKIP3D MOST OF IT!!11! OMGTHERE SOLUTION WAS DA CUR3NT RADENG 3ND-GM3!!111!!!! OMGLOK CAERFULY AND U NOTIEC TAHT TAHT SI EXACTLEY WT AXISTNG 40-MAN RADES R BUILT FOR MORA SO THAN 2 PROVIED AN INT3RESTNG CHALENG3!11!111 WTFTHEIR SI DA RADE LOKOUT FOR EXMPLE SO TAHT A GUILD CANT KIL ONYXIA 5 TIEMS PAR DAY AND GET AVERYON3 HIS TEIR 2 H3LM IN A WEK BUT RATH3R TEH RADE CONT3NT LASTS MUCH LONGAR 3VEN AFT3R ONYXIA GOAS ON FARM STATUS!!!!!!11THEYRE R TEH SPECIALIEZD R3SISTANCE G3AR REQUIERMANTS SO TAHT PLAEYRS HAEV 2 SP3ND MUCH TIEM FARMNG FOR GAAR WHICH SI UESLES OUTSIED TEH INSTANCE IN QUESTION IN ORDER 2 DO DA RADE!11!1!!TEH 40-MAN R3QUIERMANT ITSELF FORCAS MUCH TIEM 2 B SPENT ON ORGANIZNG AND TRYNG 2 BUILD GUILDS RATH3R THAN RADENG!1!1!! WTFAND TEH MOST CL3VAR PART OF THES SI TAHT IF ONLEY SO MUCH TIEM PAR WEK CAN B SPENT ADVANCNG A MANE IT PUSHAS PLAEYRS 2 CR3AET ALTS 2 GO BAK AND R3DO CONT3NT IN A DIFER3NT WAY WIT A DIFER3NT CLAS OR P3RHAPS AVEN GO DO CONTENT TH3Y SKIPED DA FIRST TIEM AROUND!1111!1 OMG TAHT IS IT PUSH3S PLAEYRS 2 GO DO SOM3THNG FUN!1!!!!! IMAGIEN TAHT!11!1DONG TEH SM3 THNG OV3R AND OV3R AND OVAR AGANE FOR LOT SI NOT RAAL CONTANT!!!1!1!11 OMGFORTY MANE RADES SIMPLEY AERNT RAAL CONT3NT IN DA SENS3 TAHT SAY SCARLET MONASTARY OR HILSBRAD FOTHILS AER!11!1! IF ANY RADEARS WANT 2 DISAGRE WIT TAHT THEN WUD U S3RIOSLEY CLEAR MOLTEN CORE A DOZEN TIEMS PAR CHARACT3R IF IT DROPED NO LOT APIC OR OTHERWIES??!!!? OMG WTF NOT COINCIEDNTALY DA SM3 CAN B SADE OF DA VARIOS REPUTATION GRINDS IN TEH GM3!1!1!1!11 OMG WTFAFTER AL WITHOUT 3PIC REWARDS PLAEYRS SIMPLEY WUDNT DO A VERY SMAL SUBSAT OF TEH CONTENT OVER AND OVER AND OV3R AGANE AV3N IF ITS TEH BIG BAD AND BOS OF TEH GME AS IT SIMPLEY ISNT FUN!1!!! SO WUT ABOUT TEH EPIS????!!?!! OMG WTFDOESNT IT SEM OD TAHT WIT TEH 3XCAPTION OF PVP RANK 14 WAAPONS (A TIEM SINK AND A HALF IN ITS3LF) AL HIGH LAVEL EPIS COME FROM 40-MAN RADES??!!!?! W3L NOT RILLY!!!1!!11! OMG BLIZARD PUT DA END-GME RADES IN2 TEH GM3 2 PROVIED SOM3THNG 2 DO FOR THEYRE L3S CRAATIEV PLAEYRS AND PREF3RS TAHT PLAEYRS GO RADENG RATHER THAN CANCELNG ACOUNTS!1!!11! WTF PUTNG DA BST LOT IN TEH GME THEIR ENSURAS TAHT TEH APROPRIAET TYPA OF PLAEYRS WIL SPEND TEH DESIERD MOUNT OF TIEM IN SUCH INSTANC3S AND H3NCE KEP THERE SUBSCRIPTIONS ACTIEV!!111!!!1 OMG IL CONCEDE TAHT TEH LOT GAP BTWEN RADE AND NON-RADE GEAR SI AWFULY LARGA AND P3RHAPS UNECASARILEY SO SURELEY IETM LAV3L 60 3PIS FOR TEIR 1 AND 67ISH FOR TEIR 2 WUD HAEV B3N HIGH ANOUGH 2 PUSH DA PLAEYRS WHO WANT DA BST GAAR 2 RADE FOR IT!1!11 WTFBUT DA POINT R3MANES TAHT DA BST GEAR HAS 2 COMA FROM DA AND-GME PSAUDO-CONTENT TAHT BLIZARD CR3AETS SOLELEY IN AN AFORT 2 PREVANT PLAEYRS FROM CANCELNG WHEN TH3Y RATIONALY OUGHT 2!!!!1!1 WTF AFTER AL MOST RADE3RS R THEIR FOR DA EPIS NOT FOR DA CHALENGE!11!!11!1 OMG WTFMOST WONT SAY SO BUT MANY IMPLICITLEY ADMIT IT WH3N THEY ARGU3 TAHT 40-MAN RADES HAEV 2 GIEV DRASTICALY BT3R LOT THAN 5-MAN INSTANC3S OR ALSA PEOPL3 WUDNT BOTHAR 2 DO THEM!1!!1 OMG WTFSUPOSE TAHT THEYRE W3RE A TEIR 3 L3GANDARY SAT FOR EACH CLAS IN DA GME RIGHT NOW!11!!1! OMGTEH ONLEY WAY 2 G3T IT SI 2 PR3S DA Q KEY ONCA P3R SECOND FOR EIGHT HOURS STRAGEHT!11!1! OMGU CANT MACRO IT AND IF U TAEK A BR3AK FOR TWO SECONDS U FALE AND HAEV 2 START OVAR!!!1!1 WTFWUD U DO IT??!!! SURALEY U KNOW AS WEL AS I DO TAHT A LOT OF PLAEYRS WUD!1!1!1!!FURTH3RMORE IF BLIZARD L8R CR3AETD ALTARNAET METHODS 2 G3T COMPARABL3 G3AR THEYRE WUD B AN OUTCRY FROM TEH P3OPLE WHO ALREADY HAD TEH L3GENDARY SAT OF HOW THES WAS UNFARE AND TEH OTHER PEOPLA WHO WANTAD LEGANDAREIS SHUD HAEV 2 3ARN THERE GEAR BY S3VERALEY DMAGNG THEYRE WRISTS!!111!!!1 OMG AND YET AT RISK OF SOMA OF DA MORE OUTSPOKAN RADE3RS NOT UNDERSTANDNG THES EXMPLE I SHUD HOP3 TAHT IT ISNT N3C3SARY 2 EXPLANE Y SUCH A S3T SI SP3CTACULARLEY BAD GMA DESIGN!1!!1!11! OMG AND RILLY TEH CONC3PT OF 3ARNNG GEAR SI QUIET A PRAPOST3ROS ONE!1!11! OMGU AARN THNGS BY DONG SOM3THNG U DONT WANT 2 DO IN ORDER 2 GET SOMETHNG U WANT!11111 OMG WTFIF U AERNT FORTUNAET ENOUGH 2 HAEV A JOB U LOV3 TH3N UR JOB MAY STIL B WORTH DONG IN ORDER 2 G3T 3NOUGH MON3Y 2 BUY AN ONLIEN GME SUBSCRIPTION-AND NOT STARVA!!!!!11 WTFFOR THNGS TAHT NED 2 B DONE SUCH EXCHANGES 2 MAEK DONG WORK WORTHWHIEL R QUIET UESFUL!!11!11! OMG WTF BUT THES SI AN ONLIEN GMA PLAEYD FOR 3NTARTANEM3NT!11!!1 OMGIF THEYRE R P3OPL3 STARVNG IN DA WORLD ITS NOT B/C UR GUILD 2K 2 LONG 2 GET ENOUGH FIER R3SISTANCE GEAR 2 TAEK DOWN RAGNAROS!!!!1!!! COMPUTER GMES R SUPOS3D 2 B FUN!!!11!!11 DA CONT3NT ALONG DA WAY AND IN PARTICULAR DA M3ANS BY WHICH GAAR SI OBTANEED OUGHT 2 B FUN IN ITS3LF!111!1 2 MAEK U MIESRABLE IN ORD3R 2 GAT 3PIS IN A GM3 TAHT U FUNDMENTALY HAET CANOT B WORTH IT IN ANY SAEN SENSE!!1!1!!!!IT SI A RATHAR MADENNG HUMAN T3ND3NCY TAHT PEOPLE WANT 3PIS RAGARDLES OF TEH MEANS BY WHICH TH3Y R OBTANEAD!!!1! WTFRADEERS OFTEN ACUES NON-RADEERS OF WANTNG EASY EPIS!!1!1111USUALY THEIR RIGHT!1!!11 OMG WTFIT ACTUALY GOES FURTH3R THAN THIS AS WUT MANY PLAEYRS WANT SI NOT MERALEY AASY EPIS FOR THEMS3LV3S BUT ALSO FOR OTH3R PLAEYRS 2 NOT GET EASY EPIS!!!!! OMG WTFBUT RADE3RS WANT 3ASY 3PIS 2!1!!!!1! OMG WTF SO IMM NOT A RADEER AND I DONT HAEV ANY 3PIS!!1!!!POR ME RIGHT???!?!! OMG WTFWAL I HAD A FAW BUT I SOLD THEM ON DA AUCTION HOUES!!!!1! OMG WTF BUT RILLY FOR WUT DO I NED APIS?!!!!??! OMG WTF DO I NED 3PIS FOR STRATHOLM3 OR SCHOLOMANCE OR DIER MAUL??!!??? OMGHOW ABOUT FOR SILITHUS OR WINT3RSPRNG OR 3ASTERN PLAGUALANDS?!!!??? OMG WTF OF COURSE NOT!1!!!!1 WTF I WUD NED 3PIS FOR BLAKWNG LARE OR 40-MAN AHNQIRAJ EXC3PT TAHT I JUST SADE IMM NOT A RADEER!111111! OMG WTF THEIR R NO G3AR R3QUIERMENTS IN ORD3R NOT 2 DO AN INSTANC3!1!1!1!!1 OMG HE PURPOSE OF G3TNG LOT SI 2 B W3L-EQUIPED FOR FUTUR3 CHAL3NGAS!!11!!!!! WTFBUT THEIR SI ONLEY A FINIET MOUNT OF CONT3NT IN TEH GME!!!111!!! OMG WTFAT SOME POINT THEIR R NO FUTUR3 CHAL3NGES WORTH DONG-MEANNG TAHT AT TAHT POINT LOT BCOMES WORTHL3S!!!11!111 MANY PLAEYRS HAEV GONE PAST TAHT POINT WITHOUT REALIZNG IT AND STIL WANT MOR3 AND BTER EPIS!1!!111!!U CAN SE THEM WHINNG ABOUT IT HAR3 AVARY DAY!1!111!! WTFSO WUT ABOUT PVP?!!!?!! OMG ISNT IT UNFARE IF ON3 PLAEYR SI IN AL BLUE GEAR AND HAS 2 FIGHT ANOTHAR DEK3D OUT IN BLAKWNG LARE AND 40-MAN AHNQIRAJ EPIS??!!? WTFYEP PVP SI UNBALANC3D!11!1 WTF DUH!!111 WTFITS SUPOSED 2 B UNBALANCED!!1!!! WTFU SHUD HAEV FIGURAD THES OUT BY TEH TIEM U GOT UR FIRST CHARACTAR 2 LEV3L 2!1!!11! OMG HALF TEH POINT OF TEH L3V3LNG IN A L3V3LNG GM3 WIT PVP SI 2 INTANTIONALY MAEK TEH PVP UNBALANCED!1!1!1!1IF U DONT LIEK TAHT THAN DONT PVP!!!11!!! OMGPROBL3M SOLVAD!1!11!!1 IT GOES BAK 2 HOW PLAEYRS WANT EASY EPIS FOR THEMSELV3S AND NOT FOR OTH3RS!!1111! OMG WTFPLAEYRS WANT 2 WIN AND HENCE WANT WINNG 2 B BAESD ON WUT IT NEDS 2 B BAESD ON IN ORD3R FOR THEM 2 WIN!!11! OMGFOR PLAEYRS WIT MOR3 FRE TIEM THAN SKIL THEIR R LEVALNG GMAS WHAR3 WHOEVAR HAS DA MOST FRE TIEM WINS!111!!1IF UR LOKNG FOR COMBAT WHERA TEH WINAR SI BAESD ON SKIL UR TARIBLEY LOST!1!!1! WTF TRY LOKNG FOR A GMA WIT NO CONC3PT OF EXPAREINC3 L3V3LS!!!!1!! WTFBLIZARD MAEKS PVP UNBALANCED B/C TAHTS WUT PLAEYRS WANT!!!!!1!1! OMG WTF TH3Y HAEV 2 D3AL WIT TAHT RAALITY IN ORDAR 2 MAEK MON3Y!1!11!! OMG WTF AS TEH SAYNG GO3S DA CUS2MER SI ALWAYS RIGHT!11!!!11 WTF AND TAHTS Y COMPLANENG ABOUT PVP IMBALANCAS SI STUPID!!!11!!1 WTF BSIEDS IF BLIZARD W3RA 2 IMPL3MENT AL OF DA NARFS TAHT PLAEYRS HAEV CALED FOR WHEN THINKNG OF PVP IT WUD MAEK MUCH OF TEH PVA CONTANT HOR3NDOSLEY DIFICULT!!1!1!!1 OMG WTF AND TAHT WUD GIEV PLAEYRS YET ANOTHAR 2PIC ON WHICH 2 WHIEN!1!11!1 OMG WUT OTH3R RAASONS R THEYRE 2 GET EPIS APART FROM PVP AND PVA UESS????!! OMG WTF EGO P3RHAPS??!??!? WTFWHIEL I T3ND 2 PITY THOS3 WHO MAEK A HUG3 DEAL ABOUT EITHER LEVELNG OR GETNG SOME PARTICULAR DROP AS THOUGH IT WER3 SOM3 GR3AT ACOMPLISHMANT THES DOASNT MAEK MUCH S3NSE EITH3R!11!1!! OMGSUPOSE TAHT BLIZARD WERE 2 AD A NU LEGENDARY SET FOR EACH CLAS WHICH WAS UND3NIABLEY TEH BST GEAR IN DA GM3!!11!1 AL TAHT PLAEYRS HAEV 2 DO 2 G3T IT SI UPON REACHNG LEVEL 60 SI 2 COMPL3TE A TRIVIAL QUAST LIEN WHICH BASICALY CONSISTS OF TEH QUAST GIEVR #@!&AETDLEY ASKNG DA PLAEYR IF HA SI CARTANE TAHT HA WANTS TEH SAT!1!!!11 WTF THARES ONA BIG CATCH THOUGH ONC3 U G3T TEH LEGENDARY SET U CAN NAV3R AGANE ENT3R AN INSTANC3!!111! OMGNO BATL3GROUNDS NO RADE ZONES NO GROUP ZON3S NO SOLO FARMNG INSTANCAS EV3N!!1!11 WTF TAHT IS U CAN G3T TEH SET BUT CANT UES IT MUCH!!!!1!!INT3REST3D??!!! OMGIF DA PLAEYRS WHO WANT GAAR WANT IT FOR SOMETHNG OTHER THAN PVP OR PV3 UES TH3N SURALEY THES WUD B QUIET A POPULAR SAT DONT U THINK??!?!?!I CAN SYMPATHIEZ WIT NON-RADEERS WHO WANT MOR3 NON-RADENG CONTENT AD3D 2 DA GM3!!!11!!! OMG WTFWUT I CANT SYMPATHIEZ WIT SI DA PEOPL3 WHO UES EXPLOITS 2 TRIVIALIEZ (AND HENCE ASANTIALY SKIP) TEH AXISTNG CONT3NT AND THAN COMPLANE TAHT THEYVE RUN OUT OF THNGS 2 DO!!11!1 OMG U SEN WUT IMM TOKNG ABOUT TAEK A 40 IN2 DEADMIENS AND A 60 IN2 SCARLET MONASTARY!11111 WTFSUCH PAOPLE WUD TAEK AN 80 IN2 SCHOLOMANCA IF TH3Y CUD BUT THAY CANT SO INSTAAD THEY TAEK 10 PLAEYRS IN2 A 5-MAN ZONE!!1!!!!1! AND NOW TAHT EXPLOIT SI BNG CUT OF AS WEL IN PATCH 110!1!1! OMG WTF AND THEIR SCR3MNG ABOUT IT!!!1!! OMG WTFMUSNG!!1!!!1!1 OMGITS NOT HARD 2 FIND DA PROBLEMS WIT DA PEOPLE U DONT LIEK AND RADEERS HAEV JUMP3D ON THES 2 POINT OUT HOW RIDICULOS IT IS!!!1!11! OMG WTF THEIR RIGHT OF COURS3!!11! WTF WH3R3 THEY GO WRONG SI IN CLAMENG TAHT NON-RADEERS ASKED FOR EPIS FOR HARD NON-RADENG CONT3NT AND R NOW COMPLANENG ABOUT IT!1!11!1 OMG WTF DA NON-RADEARS WHO R COMPLANENG ABOUT DA CHANGES OF PATCH 110!1!!!11! OMG R NOT DA SM3 P3OPLE WHO WANT3D ACTUAL CHAL3NG3S IN NON-RADENG CONTANT SUCH AS HAVNG 2 PAY ATENTION!1!11!1 WTF SO LET IT B KNOWN IMM NOT A RADEER AND I DONT WANT EASY EPIS!!1!1!1 OMG WTFWUT I WANT SI 2 B ABL3 2 ATAK ONA CHALANGE UNTIL I GET TIERD OF FARMNG IT (AND I HAEV VARY LITLA 2L3RANCA FOR GRINDNG OF ANY SORT) AND TH3N AS A R3SULT OF HAVNG COMPLET3D DA PR3VIOS CHALENGE (AND DA ONAS BFOR3 IT) 2 B PROPARLEY AQUIP3D FOR TEH NAXT!!1!!11!! WTFWH3TH3R DA GAAR INVOLVAD SI GREN BLUE PURPLA OR ORANGE DOESNT MATER MUCH!!!11!1! OMG WTF AND I DO WANT DA CHAL3NGES 2 B WAL CHAL3NGNG AS OPOSED 2 MONO2NOS TIEM SINKS!1!!!!!1 I ROUTIENLEY TURN PLAEYRS AWAY FROM GROUPS I FORM FOR BNG 2 HIGH LEVAL!11111111 WTFA 56 WANTS 2 RUN MARAUDON OR A 38 RAZORFAN KRAUL????!!?! WTFNOT WIT ME THEY WONT!!111 OMG WTF FIEV MAN CAPS ON FIEV MAN INSTANCES R GR3AT!!11!!1 WTFI WISH BLIZARD WUD FIX TEH OVARL3VEL3D EXPLOIT AND NOT LET PLAEYRS MOR3 THAN 10 LEV3LS APART 3NT3R DA SMA INSTANC3 2G3THAR 2!1!1!!!1! OMG FINALY I WANT FOR THEYRE 2 B A N3XT CHAL3NGA!!!1!!11 WTF AV3N IF ITS CALED AN AXPANSION!!!!!111 OMG DA GM3 DO3SNT NED MORA TIEM SINKS!1!111 WTFIT NEDS MOR3 REAL CONTENT!1!!!111 OMG WTF LATS LET BLIZARD CRAAET TAHT WITHOUT G3TNG AL ANTSY IN DA MAANTIEM ABOUT NOT BNG ABLA 2 FIND A BORNG TIEM SINK TAHT ISNT WEL A BORNG TIEM SINK!1!111! OMG

Parkbandit
04-28-2008, 02:45 PM
Emeradan must have had a seriously rough time in high school.

On an unrelated note, since we're on the topic of douchebag moderators, I once got banned from the WoW forums for "linking pornography" from putting www.goatse.cx in a post, despite the fact that that link doesn't work anymore, as the original goatse site was taken down years before WoW even came out.

/facepalm

Bitch please.. I got warned for calling Celtic "overly anal".. meaning analytical.. not taking it up the Hershey Highway.

Officials are and always will be a complete joke. Their moderators are worse than Harmnone et Co. here... which is saying something.

NocturnalRob
04-28-2008, 03:12 PM
UNL3S R3ADILEY ACESIBLA...A BORNG TIEM SINK!1!111! OMG

holy shit, dude

Rimalon
04-28-2008, 03:21 PM
I HAD BEN GONE FROM GEMS2NA FOR YEARS!11!11111 WTF I CME BAK FOR A LITLE LOK AND I WAS
MOSTLEY HAVNG A GOD TIEM!11!!1 I WAS ACTUALY ABOUT 2 CAL 2DAY 2 INQUIER ABOUT
BRNGNG BAK A CERTANE LEGAND WIZARD I ONCE HAD TAHT WAS LOST
IF!!1!1 WTF IT WAS POSIBLE I WUD HAEV PADE DA RES2RAL FE ETC AND HAD A FOURTH
ACOUNT OPEN!1!!1 OMG WTF INST3AD.I!1!!1!!1!!1!1 JUST BCME DISGUSTED BYOND COMPAER!!111111 OMG WTF IM SERIOSLY
THINKNG OF REQUASTNG A REFUND FOR TEH MONTH I JUST PADE FOR AS THES WAS NOT
TH3 SARVIEC I PADE FOR!!1!! MAH INTANTIONS WAR3 2 COMA BAK FOR ONE MONTH AND B
GONE!111! OMG WTF LOL INSTAAD I STAEYD FOR A S3COND MONTH WHICH I WUD NOT HAEV DONE IF THIS
CHANGE WER3 R!!!!!1!!1 WTF U P3OPLE THES CLU3L3S?!!?!??! LOL THES HAS CAUESD MOST OF UR CUS2MERS A LOT OF
STRES!11!!! GEMS2N3 SI SUPOS3D 2 B OUR STRES RELEIF!!!!!1 OMG WTF MAH LIEF SI A PANE OF
AGONIZNG SLOWNAS!11111! OMG LOL IM FROM TEH NU ORLEANS AERA AND HAALNG WIT MAH 3MPATH
NOW R3MINDS M3 OF AL TEH RAD TAEP WE DEAL WIT HARA POST KATRINA.FEMAFLOD
ELEVATIONS!!1!!!11111!11!!!11!11 OMG LOL ROAD HOMEINSURANC3 COMPANEIS HOLDNG UP PAYMENTSNOT ENOUGH BAD
CONTRAC2RS MUCH LES GOD ON3S.AND!!1!111111!!1!1111!!! WTF LOL TEH LIST GOES ON!111! WTF COMNG BAK 2 G3MS2NE
WAS AN ASCAEP FROM TAHT..AS!1!!1!!1!!11!!11!!11!!1! OMG WTF IT SI FOR OTHERS WIT THEYRE OWN SET OR
TROUBL3S.INSTEAD.ITS!!1!1!!111!111!! WTF LOL A CHOR3!11!!!!1 LOL Y M I GONG 2 PAY FOR SOM3THNG TAHT GIEVS
MA STRAS AND MAEKS M3 UNHAPY?!?!? LOL I RUN A BUSIENS AND M A LANDLORD AND I ALWAYS
SHAEK MAH HAAD AT SIMUS IEDA OF WUT ACAPTABLA BUSIENS PRACTIECS!!!!11!11 OMG I HAD A F3W
FREINDS I WAS GETNG PUMP3D UP ABOUT COMNG BAK.SWIIIIISH.TAHTS!111!!111!1111!1! OMG WTF LOL U!11!1! WTF LOL MAY HAEV A S2RYLIEN.BUT!11!11!111 IF YA DO.GAT!1!1!!!11!11!!1! OMG IT DON3 IN DAYS!11!1!! OMG AND ANOUNCA THA
END RASULT!!!1!! LOL H3R3S A HINT.WE!!1!!!111!!1!1!!!!111!1 KNAW ANAKIN BCOMES DARTH VAEDR BFOR3 SENG
THE MOVEI YET MANY WENT AND SPENT!!1!1! LOL IN A SITUATION LIEK THIS.WHERE!1!!1!!!!!!!!1!111!1 OMG LOL WE HAEV
ACTUAL FUTUR3 PLANS 2 MAEK.T3L!!!!!!1!!!11!1!1 OMG LOL US!!11111! OMG LOL L3AK IT LIEK THEY DO U!!11!11!11!!!!!!11!! WTF GMS LEAK EVARYTHNG ELSA 2 YER BUDS!1!!11!1 LOL

Allereli
04-28-2008, 03:27 PM
I HAD BEN GONE FROM GEMS2NA FOR YEARS!11!11111 WTF I CME BAK FOR A LITLE LOK AND I WAS
MOSTLEY HAVNG A GOD TIEM!11!!1 I WAS ACTUALY ABOUT 2 CAL 2DAY 2 INQUIER ABOUT
BRNGNG BAK A CERTANE LEGAND WIZARD I ONCE HAD TAHT WAS LOST
IF!!1!1 WTF IT WAS POSIBLE I WUD HAEV PADE DA RES2RAL FE ETC AND HAD A FOURTH
ACOUNT OPEN!1!!1 OMG WTF INST3AD.I!1!!1!!1!!1!1 JUST BCME DISGUSTED BYOND COMPAER!!111111 OMG WTF IM SERIOSLY
THINKNG OF REQUASTNG A REFUND FOR TEH MONTH I JUST PADE FOR AS THES WAS NOT
TH3 SARVIEC I PADE FOR!!1!! MAH INTANTIONS WAR3 2 COMA BAK FOR ONE MONTH AND B
GONE!111! OMG WTF LOL INSTAAD I STAEYD FOR A S3COND MONTH WHICH I WUD NOT HAEV DONE IF THIS
CHANGE WER3 R!!!!!1!!1 WTF U P3OPLE THES CLU3L3S?!!?!??! LOL THES HAS CAUESD MOST OF UR CUS2MERS A LOT OF
STRES!11!!! GEMS2N3 SI SUPOS3D 2 B OUR STRES RELEIF!!!!!1 OMG WTF MAH LIEF SI A PANE OF
AGONIZNG SLOWNAS!11111! OMG LOL IM FROM TEH NU ORLEANS AERA AND HAALNG WIT MAH 3MPATH
NOW R3MINDS M3 OF AL TEH RAD TAEP WE DEAL WIT HARA POST KATRINA.FEMAFLOD
ELEVATIONS!!1!!!11111!11!!!11!11 OMG LOL ROAD HOMEINSURANC3 COMPANEIS HOLDNG UP PAYMENTSNOT ENOUGH BAD
CONTRAC2RS MUCH LES GOD ON3S.AND!!1!111111!!1!1111!!! WTF LOL TEH LIST GOES ON!111! WTF COMNG BAK 2 G3MS2NE
WAS AN ASCAEP FROM TAHT..AS!1!!1!!1!!11!!11!!11!!1! OMG WTF IT SI FOR OTHERS WIT THEYRE OWN SET OR
TROUBL3S.INSTEAD.ITS!!1!1!!111!111!! WTF LOL A CHOR3!11!!!!1 LOL Y M I GONG 2 PAY FOR SOM3THNG TAHT GIEVS
MA STRAS AND MAEKS M3 UNHAPY?!?!? LOL I RUN A BUSIENS AND M A LANDLORD AND I ALWAYS
SHAEK MAH HAAD AT SIMUS IEDA OF WUT ACAPTABLA BUSIENS PRACTIECS!!!!11!11 OMG I HAD A F3W
FREINDS I WAS GETNG PUMP3D UP ABOUT COMNG BAK.SWIIIIISH.TAHTS!111!!111!1111!1! OMG WTF LOL U!11!1! WTF LOL MAY HAEV A S2RYLIEN.BUT!11!11!111 IF YA DO.GAT!1!1!!!11!11!!1! OMG IT DON3 IN DAYS!11!1!! OMG AND ANOUNCA THA
END RASULT!!!1!! LOL H3R3S A HINT.WE!!1!!!111!!1!1!!!!111!1 KNAW ANAKIN BCOMES DARTH VAEDR BFOR3 SENG
THE MOVEI YET MANY WENT AND SPENT!!1!1! LOL IN A SITUATION LIEK THIS.WHERE!1!!1!!!!!!!!1!111!1 OMG LOL WE HAEV
ACTUAL FUTUR3 PLANS 2 MAEK.T3L!!!!!!1!!!11!1!1 OMG LOL US!!11111! OMG LOL L3AK IT LIEK THEY DO U!!11!11!11!!!!!!11!! WTF GMS LEAK EVARYTHNG ELSA 2 YER BUDS!1!!11!1 LOL

holy shit rofl

LG422
04-28-2008, 03:36 PM
I would have pulled it for lack of a grasp of the English language.

If you want people to take you seriously, use punctuation and spaces.

Why would I bother to proofread something that I knew would get pulled? Emeradan's COCK probably grew large enough to burst a Trojan Magnum as soon as it saw my post, in anticipation of finding a reason to pull it. If it wasn't for the GM leak line, Emeradan would have found another reason. Frankly, it's not that important to me and if you find my post unreadable, you must have a very hard time on the internet.
The post was basically a generally venting rant.I am 40...its what 40 year old men do besides taking viagra. Since I don't need the viagra for my COCK..I just rant more.
I really am seriously contemplating leaving the game over the STUPID empath change. I had come back and was having fun mostly, despite getting punked over having sold my decent shit and having half a fucking clue what I was doing. I have railed for years about them making the game's play more tedious and this was another example. My empath is there to heal my characters. It can be perfectly trained to heal and do nothing else. My concern comes from the people that like to split and do both. If they find a path, LET THEM. The vocal minority will tear down ANY society by always worrying what others can do that they can't and trying to make everyone equal instead of changing their choices.

BigWorm
04-28-2008, 03:39 PM
Why would I bother to proofread something that I knew would get pulled? Emeradan's COCK probably grew large enough to burst a Trojan Magnum as soon as it saw my post, in anticipation of finding a reason to pull it. If it wasn't for the GM leak line, Emeradan would have found another reason. Frankly, it's not that important to me and if you find my post unreadable, you must have a very hard time on the internet.
The post was basically a generally venting rant.I am 40...its what 40 year old men do besides taking viagra. Since I don't need the viagra for my COCK..I just rant more.
I really am seriously contemplating leaving the game over the STUPID empath change. I had come back and was having fun mostly, despite getting punked over having sold my decent shit and having half a fucking clue what I was doing. I have railed for years about them making the game's play more tedious and this was another example. My empath is there to heal my characters. It can be perfectly trained to heal and do nothing else. My concern comes from the people that like to split and do both. If they find a path, LET THEM. The vocal minority will tear down ANY society by always worrying what others can do that they can't and trying to make everyone equal instead of changing their choices.

Don't let the door hit you.

Nieninque
04-28-2008, 03:44 PM
Why would I bother to proofread something that I knew would get pulled? Emeradan's COCK probably grew large enough to burst a Trojan Magnum as soon as it saw my post, in anticipation of finding a reason to pull it. If it wasn't for the GM leak line, Emeradan would have found another reason. Frankly, it's not that important to me and if you find my post unreadable, you must have a very hard time on the internet.
The post was basically a generally venting rant.I am 40...its what 40 year old men do besides taking viagra. Since I don't need the viagra for my COCK..I just rant more.
I really am seriously contemplating leaving the game over the STUPID empath change. I had come back and was having fun mostly, despite getting punked over having sold my decent shit and having half a fucking clue what I was doing. I have railed for years about them making the game's play more tedious and this was another example. My empath is there to heal my characters. It can be perfectly trained to heal and do nothing else. My concern comes from the people that like to split and do both. If they find a path, LET THEM. The vocal minority will tear down ANY society by always worrying what others can do that they can't and trying to make everyone equal instead of changing their choices.

Twat

LG422
04-28-2008, 03:46 PM
Don't let the door hit you.


I won't, it will be too busy hitting all the people with primary empaths. Eventually it hits so many the door breaks, dipshit. Then YOU will be affected as well.
You ass eat Emeradan don't ya?

LG422
04-28-2008, 03:49 PM
Twat


I am what I eat. I like twat, I think about twat daily, hourly, by the minute. I can be getting some twat and I will be thinking about getting more twat. I LOVE TWAT!
Any Questions, COCK?

Khariz
04-28-2008, 03:49 PM
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Changed to leetspeak, just for giggles.

Rimalon
04-28-2008, 03:56 PM
C'mon, you can do better than that:

Y WUD I BOTHER 2 PROFR3AD SOMETHNG TAHT I KNEW WUD GAT PUL3D????!!! OMG WTF AMERADANS COK PROBABLEY GR3W LARG3 ENOUGH 2 BURST A TROJAN MAGNUM AS SON AS IT SAW MAH POST IN ANTICIPATION OF FINDNG A REASON 2 PUL IT!!!1!!! LOL IF IT WASNT FOR TEH GM LEAK LIEN 3MERADAN WUD HAEV FOUND ANOTH3R R3ASON!111!1!1! OMG FRANKLEY ITS NOT TAHT IMPORTANT 2 MA AND IF U FIND MAH POST UNREADABL3 U MUST HAEV A VERY HARD TIEM ON DA INTERNAT
THE!!!!1 WTF POST WAS BASICALY A GENERALY VENTNG RANTIM 40.ITS!1!!111!!11!!! OMG LOL WUT 40 YAAR OLD M3N DO BSIEDS TAKNG VIAGRA!!111 OMG LOL SINCE I DONT NED DA VIAGRA FOR MAH COK.I!!!1111!!!1!!! WTF JUST RANT MOR3
I!!1!1 OMG LOL RILLY M S3RIOSLEY CONTAMPLATNG L3AVNG DA GME OVER DA STUPID 3MPATH CHANGE!111!1!1 OMG WTF I HAD COM3 BAK AND WAS HAVNG FUN MOSTLEY D3SPIET G3TNG PUNKAD OVAR HAVNG SOLD MAH D3CENT SHIT AND HAVNG HALF A FUKNG CLUA WUT I WAS DONG!11!!1 LOL I HAEV RALE3D FOR Y3ARS ABOUT THAM MAKNG DA GMES PLAY MOR3 T3DIOS AND THES WAS ANOTHER AXMPLE!!!1111 OMG WTF MAH EMPATH SI THEIR 2 H3AL MAH CHARACTERS!1!11 OMG WTF LOL IT CAN B PARFECTLEY TRANEAD 2 HEAL AND DO NOTHNG ELSE!!11!1 WTF LOL MAH CONCERN COMAS FROM TEH PAOPL3 TAHT LIEK 2 SPLIT AND DO BOTH!!1!!111 OMG WTF LOL IF THEY FIND A PATH L3T THEM!!111! WTF DA VOCAL MINORITY WIL TAAR DOWN ANY SOCEITY BY ALWAYS WORYNG WUT OTHARS CAN DO TAHT TH3Y CANT AND TRYNG 2 MAEK 3V3RYON3 3QUAL INSTEAD OF CHANGNG THEYRE CHOIECS
!!!1!! OMG WTF

Stanley Burrell
04-28-2008, 04:03 PM
SO..I posted this on the officials..and...GUESS who pulled it.
He did it for the very last sentence about leaking.

I had been gone from Gemstone for years. I came back for a little look and I was
mostly having a good time. I was actually about to call today to inquire about
bringing back a certain Legend wizard I once had that was lost.
IF it was possible I would have paid the restoral fee etc and had a FOURTH
account open. Instead..I just became DISGUSTED beyond compare. I am SERIOUSLY
thinking of requesting a refund for the month I just paid for as this was NOT
the service I paid for. My intentions were to come back for ONE month and be
gone. Instead I stayed for a second month which I would NOT have done if this
change were known.
Are you people THIS clueless? This has caused MOST of your customers a LOT of
stress. Gemstone is supposed to be our stress relief. My life is a pain of
agonizing slowness. I am from the New Orleans area and healing with my empath
now reminds me of ALL the red tape we deal with here post Katrina...FEMA,Flood
Elevations, Road Home,Insurance companies holding up payments,Not enough bad
contractors much less good ones...and the list goes on. Coming back to Gemstone
was an escape from that....as it is for others with their own set or
troubles...instead..its a CHORE. Why am I going to pay for something that gives
me stress and makes me unhappy? I run a business and am a landlord and I always
shake my head at Simu's idea of whats acceptable business practices. I had a few
friends I was getting pumped up about coming back...SWIIIIIIIIISH...thats gone
now.
You may have a STORYLINE..but if ya do..get it done in DAYS. and announce the
end result. Here's a hint...we KNEW Annakin becomes Darth Vader before seeing
the movie yet MANY went and spent. In a situation like this...where we have
actual future plans to make...TELL US. LEAK IT like they do in
politics...GEEZ...you GMs leak everything else to yer buds.
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Jesus, it must be Emeradan's time of the month this week...on top of him being a complete asshole all the time anyway.



UNL3S R3ADILEY ACESIBLA NU INSTANCES GIEV EVEN BTER LOT THAN THIS MANY PLAEYRS WUD COMPLATELEY IGNORA THAM!!!1!1!1! OMG RADE INSTANCES ALONG DA WAY IN LEVALNG SIMPLEY AERNT VIABLE AS RADES CUT AXPEREINCE BY HALF!!11!!1 OMG FURTHAR DA ONLEY R3ASON GUILDS CAN GET 40 PLAEYRS 2 GO DO MOLTAN COR3 SI B/C THEIR R MANY MANY 60S IN TEH GM3 AT LEAST WH3N COMPAERD 2 TEH NUMBR OF PLAEYRS AT EXACTLEY SAY LEVEL 37!111!11!! OMGDA ONLEY SENSIBLE THNG TAHT I SE 2 DO WIT INSTANCES LIEK ZULGURUB 20-MAN AHNQIRAJ AND MOLT3N CORE SI 2 HAAVILEY NERF TEH MOBS 2 MAEK DA INSTANCES 5-MAN RASE3 THERE LEVELS SO TAHT TEH LOT DA INSTANCA DROPS SI SUITABLE FOR DA L3V3L WITHOUT CHANGNG IETMS REDUCE DROP RAETS AND R3MOVA TEH RADE LOKOUT!!1!!TAHT WUD AT LAAST G3T SOMA UTILITY OUT OF DA INSTANC3S RATHAR THAN BLIZARD HAVNG SPENT AL TAHT TIEM DESIGNNG INSTANCAS TAHT 3VAN RADEERS WHO HAPAN 2 PIK UP TEH GM3 AFTAR TEH EXPANSION CAN NAVER SE!!!1!!!1 OMG WTFFURTHERMORE TEH 40-MAN COMPONENT SI HARDLEY TEH ONLEY PROBLEM WIT RADES IN THEYRE PRESENT FORMULATION!1!!!1! WTFIF TH3Y W3RE 2 MAEK DA 3ND-GMA INSTANC3S 5-MAN BUT KEP AL TEH OTH3R PROBL3MS WUD TAHT MAEK FOR A FUN INSTANC3?!!!?!? RADE LOKOUTS 3XOTIC R3SISTANC3 R3QUIERMENTS PRESCH3DULNG RAGROUPNG ON MULTIPLE DAYS PIEGONHOLAD CLAS FUNCTIONS FORC3D R3SPAS REPUTATION GRINDS DKP GUILD DRMA AND KILNG DA SME MOBS IN DA SMA ORDERS USNG TEH SME TACTIS WEK AFTAR WEK AFTER WEK IN A 5-MAN INSTANCE????????NO THX!!!!1!! WTF IF TAHTS WUT IT TAEKS DA MOBS CAN KEP THEYRE EPIS FOR AL I CAER!!!!11!!! WTF IF DA PROBL3M WIT DA EXISTNG RADENG END-GME SI TAHT ITS A BORNG TIEM SINK THAN WUT SI GANEAD BY OF3RNG TEH ALTERNATIEV OF ANOTH3R BORNG TIEM SINK?!!!! WTFSHUD A 60 WIT 10 DAYS /PLAEYD WHO STIL HAS TROUBL3 WIT RAEGFIER CHASM G3T 3PIS JUST B/C HES A 60 WIT 10 DAYS /PLAEYD?!??? OMG WTFIF U GOT A THOSAND CHARACTERS 2 LEVAL 5 WUD U AXP3CT EPIS FOR TAHT??!?!3MPHASIZNG TIEM SPENT OVER SKIL LEADS 2 MIND-NUMBNGLEY R3PETITIEV CONT3NT WHICH SI 3XACTLEY WUT SHUD B AVOIEDD!1!!1 OMG WTFSURALEY IT SI BT3R 2 SPAND TAHT TIEM CR3ATNG R3AL CONTANT 3V3N IF IT M3ANS ONLEY ONE BORNG END GMA PATH INST3AD OF S3V3RAL!!!1!!PARHAPS FOR WUT TEH FINAL 3XPANSION BLIZARD HAS PLANED IT WUD MAEK SENS3 2 HAEV MULTIPLE AND-GMA PATHS SO TAHT PLAEYRS CUD ADVANC3 2 DA V3RY BST GEAR VIA 40-MAN RADES 5-MAN GROUPS SOLO CONT3NT OR WUT MIX TH3Y PR3FAR!!!1!11!! OMG WTFBUT IN TEH UNTIL THEN IT DO3SNT MAEK SENSE 2 OVARDO DA AND-GMA CONTENT WHICH WIL NED A MAJOR OVARHAUL L8R INSTEAD OF REAL CONT3NT WHICH WIL RAMANE UESFUL FOR AS LONG AS DA GMA AXISTS AND WITHOUT NEDNG 2 B COMPLATELEY R3BALANCED!!1!!! OMG WTFANOTHER ALT3RNATIEV WUD B 2 HAEV NO END-GM3 AT AL!!111!!1! OMG PUT NO RADE INSTANC3S OR R3PUTATION GRINDS IN2 TEH GMA SO TAHT ONCE U FINISH STRATHOLME SCHOLOMANCE DIER MAUL BLAKROK DEPTHS AND BLAKROK SPIER UR DONA!1!111 WTF TH3R3S NOTHNG LAFT 2 DO!1!11 OMG TAHT WUD B LIEK BLIZARD TELNG PLAEYRS CONGRATULATIONS U HAEV BAETN TEH GME!1!!11 OMG WTFNOW U SHUD CANC3L UR ACOUNT AND GO DO SOMETHNG 3LSE!1111 FOR OBVIOS BUSIENS REASONS THEY CANT DO TAHT!11!1!111 OMG L3TS NOT FORGET TAHT BLIZARD SI PLAYNG A GME 2 H3R3!111!1!! THERE TRYNG 2 MAEK AS MUCH MON3Y AS THEY POSIBLEY CAN!!1!1 WTF THES ISNT AN ANTI-CAPITALIST RANT TAHTS A GOD THNG NOT A BAD THNG!!!!!1 OMGIF BLIZARD DIDNT R ABOUT MON3Y TH3Y WUDNT R WUT PLAEYRS WANT AND CERTANELEY WUDNT ADJUST DA GM3 BAESD ON PLAEYR DAMANDS!!!1!1!!1 WTF IF U DONT SE TEH DIFERANC3 BTWEN THES AND WT DO NOW I SUGEST U GO APLEY FOR SOME P3RMIT AT A GOVARNM3NT AEGNCY SOMETIEM!1!!!1!11IT DOASNT MATER MUCH WHICH AEGNCY SO LONG AS IT ISNT D3P3NDANT ON CUS2M3R SATISFACTION FOR ITS BUDGAT!!1!1! OMG WTF INDED BLIZARD TRYNG 2 MAEK MONEY SI TEH RAASON TH3Y MAED TEH POPULAR LEVEL 1-59 SACTION OF DA GMA TEH WAY THEY DID!!!!!!11 OMG WTFBLIZARDS GREAT INSIGHT WAS TAHT EVEN IF IT WAS NACASARY FOR TEH GME 2 B PANEFUL GRINDNG ONC3 TEH CONTANT HAD RUN OUT MANY PLAEYRS DIDNT WANT DA PANEFUL GRINDNG STAEG 2 BGIN SOM3WHERE AROUND L3VEL 3!!!!1!!1 OMG WTFSO THEY POSTPON3D IT AL DA WAY UNTIL PLAEYRS HAD DON3 NEARLEY AVERYTHNG THEIR WAS 2 DO AND PLAEYRS LOVED IT!1!1!TAHT SI A BIG R3ASON Y DA GMA HAS SIX MILION OR SO SUBSCRIEBRS AND TEH COMPANY HAS (HOPEFULY) MAED MILIONS OF DOLARS IN PROFIT!!!1!!11! OMG BUT PLAEYRS SE TAHT DA GRINDNG CAN B POSTPONAD AND WANT IT POSTPON3D FURTHER OR PUT OF INDEFINIETLEY!!111 OMG WTF A COMPANY TAHT FOUND A WAY 2 DO TAHT IN A ST3REOTYPICAL MORPG WIT HAAVILEY SCRIPT3D CONTENT WUD MAEK ODL3S OF MON3Y OF IT!11!!11 OMG WTF BUT TRYNG TAHT SI P3RHAPS A HOLEY GRALE TYPA OF MISION AND ONA FOR WHICH NEITH3R BLIZARD NOR ANYON3 3LS3 ON DA PLAENT HAS A SOLUTION!!11! WTFHOW3VER BLIZARD KNAW TAHT TH3Y CUD ONLEY AD SO MUCH REAL CONT3NT 2 TEH GM3 WITHOUT MAKNG A BUNCH OF IL-CONC3IEVD GARBAEG!!1!11!!1 OMGTEH PROBLEM THAY FAECD WAS HOW 2 GAT PLAEYRS 2 KEP SUBSCRIBNG AFTER THEY HAEV RUN OUT OF CONTENT OR MORA COMONLEY SKIP3D MOST OF IT!!11! OMGTHERE SOLUTION WAS DA CUR3NT RADENG 3ND-GM3!!111!!!! OMGLOK CAERFULY AND U NOTIEC TAHT TAHT SI EXACTLEY WT AXISTNG 40-MAN RADES R BUILT FOR MORA SO THAN 2 PROVIED AN INT3RESTNG CHALENG3!11!111 WTFTHEIR SI DA RADE LOKOUT FOR EXMPLE SO TAHT A GUILD CANT KIL ONYXIA 5 TIEMS PAR DAY AND GET AVERYON3 HIS TEIR 2 H3LM IN A WEK BUT RATH3R TEH RADE CONT3NT LASTS MUCH LONGAR 3VEN AFT3R ONYXIA GOAS ON FARM STATUS!!!!!!11THEYRE R TEH SPECIALIEZD R3SISTANCE G3AR REQUIERMANTS SO TAHT PLAEYRS HAEV 2 SP3ND MUCH TIEM FARMNG FOR GAAR WHICH SI UESLES OUTSIED TEH INSTANCE IN QUESTION IN ORDER 2 DO DA RADE!11!1!!TEH 40-MAN R3QUIERMANT ITSELF FORCAS MUCH TIEM 2 B SPENT ON ORGANIZNG AND TRYNG 2 BUILD GUILDS RATH3R THAN RADENG!1!1!! WTFAND TEH MOST CL3VAR PART OF THES SI TAHT IF ONLEY SO MUCH TIEM PAR WEK CAN B SPENT ADVANCNG A MANE IT PUSHAS PLAEYRS 2 CR3AET ALTS 2 GO BAK AND R3DO CONT3NT IN A DIFER3NT WAY WIT A DIFER3NT CLAS OR P3RHAPS AVEN GO DO CONTENT TH3Y SKIPED DA FIRST TIEM AROUND!1111!1 OMG TAHT IS IT PUSH3S PLAEYRS 2 GO DO SOM3THNG FUN!1!!!!! IMAGIEN TAHT!11!1DONG TEH SM3 THNG OV3R AND OV3R AND OVAR AGANE FOR LOT SI NOT RAAL CONTANT!!!1!1!11 OMGFORTY MANE RADES SIMPLEY AERNT RAAL CONT3NT IN DA SENS3 TAHT SAY SCARLET MONASTARY OR HILSBRAD FOTHILS AER!11!1! IF ANY RADEARS WANT 2 DISAGRE WIT TAHT THEN WUD U S3RIOSLEY CLEAR MOLTEN CORE A DOZEN TIEMS PAR CHARACT3R IF IT DROPED NO LOT APIC OR OTHERWIES??!!!? OMG WTF NOT COINCIEDNTALY DA SM3 CAN B SADE OF DA VARIOS REPUTATION GRINDS IN TEH GM3!1!1!1!11 OMG WTFAFTER AL WITHOUT 3PIC REWARDS PLAEYRS SIMPLEY WUDNT DO A VERY SMAL SUBSAT OF TEH CONTENT OVER AND OVER AND OV3R AGANE AV3N IF ITS TEH BIG BAD AND BOS OF TEH GME AS IT SIMPLEY ISNT FUN!1!!! SO WUT ABOUT TEH EPIS????!!?!! OMG WTFDOESNT IT SEM OD TAHT WIT TEH 3XCAPTION OF PVP RANK 14 WAAPONS (A TIEM SINK AND A HALF IN ITS3LF) AL HIGH LAVEL EPIS COME FROM 40-MAN RADES??!!!?! W3L NOT RILLY!!!1!!11! OMG BLIZARD PUT DA END-GME RADES IN2 TEH GM3 2 PROVIED SOM3THNG 2 DO FOR THEYRE L3S CRAATIEV PLAEYRS AND PREF3RS TAHT PLAEYRS GO RADENG RATHER THAN CANCELNG ACOUNTS!1!!11! WTF PUTNG DA BST LOT IN TEH GME THEIR ENSURAS TAHT TEH APROPRIAET TYPA OF PLAEYRS WIL SPEND TEH DESIERD MOUNT OF TIEM IN SUCH INSTANC3S AND H3NCE KEP THERE SUBSCRIPTIONS ACTIEV!!111!!!1 OMG IL CONCEDE TAHT TEH LOT GAP BTWEN RADE AND NON-RADE GEAR SI AWFULY LARGA AND P3RHAPS UNECASARILEY SO SURELEY IETM LAV3L 60 3PIS FOR TEIR 1 AND 67ISH FOR TEIR 2 WUD HAEV B3N HIGH ANOUGH 2 PUSH DA PLAEYRS WHO WANT DA BST GAAR 2 RADE FOR IT!1!11 WTFBUT DA POINT R3MANES TAHT DA BST GEAR HAS 2 COMA FROM DA AND-GME PSAUDO-CONTENT TAHT BLIZARD CR3AETS SOLELEY IN AN AFORT 2 PREVANT PLAEYRS FROM CANCELNG WHEN TH3Y RATIONALY OUGHT 2!!!!1!1 WTF AFTER AL MOST RADE3RS R THEIR FOR DA EPIS NOT FOR DA CHALENGE!11!!11!1 OMG WTFMOST WONT SAY SO BUT MANY IMPLICITLEY ADMIT IT WH3N THEY ARGU3 TAHT 40-MAN RADES HAEV 2 GIEV DRASTICALY BT3R LOT THAN 5-MAN INSTANC3S OR ALSA PEOPL3 WUDNT BOTHAR 2 DO THEM!1!!1 OMG WTFSUPOSE TAHT THEYRE W3RE A TEIR 3 L3GANDARY SAT FOR EACH CLAS IN DA GME RIGHT NOW!11!!1! OMGTEH ONLEY WAY 2 G3T IT SI 2 PR3S DA Q KEY ONCA P3R SECOND FOR EIGHT HOURS STRAGEHT!11!1! OMGU CANT MACRO IT AND IF U TAEK A BR3AK FOR TWO SECONDS U FALE AND HAEV 2 START OVAR!!!1!1 WTFWUD U DO IT??!!! SURALEY U KNOW AS WEL AS I DO TAHT A LOT OF PLAEYRS WUD!1!1!1!!FURTH3RMORE IF BLIZARD L8R CR3AETD ALTARNAET METHODS 2 G3T COMPARABL3 G3AR THEYRE WUD B AN OUTCRY FROM TEH P3OPLE WHO ALREADY HAD TEH L3GENDARY SAT OF HOW THES WAS UNFARE AND TEH OTHER PEOPLA WHO WANTAD LEGANDAREIS SHUD HAEV 2 3ARN THERE GEAR BY S3VERALEY DMAGNG THEYRE WRISTS!!111!!!1 OMG AND YET AT RISK OF SOMA OF DA MORE OUTSPOKAN RADE3RS NOT UNDERSTANDNG THES EXMPLE I SHUD HOP3 TAHT IT ISNT N3C3SARY 2 EXPLANE Y SUCH A S3T SI SP3CTACULARLEY BAD GMA DESIGN!1!!1!11! OMG AND RILLY TEH CONC3PT OF 3ARNNG GEAR SI QUIET A PRAPOST3ROS ONE!1!11! OMGU AARN THNGS BY DONG SOM3THNG U DONT WANT 2 DO IN ORDER 2 GET SOMETHNG U WANT!11111 OMG WTFIF U AERNT FORTUNAET ENOUGH 2 HAEV A JOB U LOV3 TH3N UR JOB MAY STIL B WORTH DONG IN ORDER 2 G3T 3NOUGH MON3Y 2 BUY AN ONLIEN GME SUBSCRIPTION-AND NOT STARVA!!!!!11 WTFFOR THNGS TAHT NED 2 B DONE SUCH EXCHANGES 2 MAEK DONG WORK WORTHWHIEL R QUIET UESFUL!!11!11! OMG WTF BUT THES SI AN ONLIEN GMA PLAEYD FOR 3NTARTANEM3NT!11!!1 OMGIF THEYRE R P3OPL3 STARVNG IN DA WORLD ITS NOT B/C UR GUILD 2K 2 LONG 2 GET ENOUGH FIER R3SISTANCE GEAR 2 TAEK DOWN RAGNAROS!!!!1!!! COMPUTER GMES R SUPOS3D 2 B FUN!!!11!!11 DA CONT3NT ALONG DA WAY AND IN PARTICULAR DA M3ANS BY WHICH GAAR SI OBTANEED OUGHT 2 B FUN IN ITS3LF!111!1 2 MAEK U MIESRABLE IN ORD3R 2 GAT 3PIS IN A GM3 TAHT U FUNDMENTALY HAET CANOT B WORTH IT IN ANY SAEN SENSE!!1!1!!!!IT SI A RATHAR MADENNG HUMAN T3ND3NCY TAHT PEOPLE WANT 3PIS RAGARDLES OF TEH MEANS BY WHICH TH3Y R OBTANEAD!!!1! WTFRADEERS OFTEN ACUES NON-RADEERS OF WANTNG EASY EPIS!!1!1111USUALY THEIR RIGHT!1!!11 OMG WTFIT ACTUALY GOES FURTH3R THAN THIS AS WUT MANY PLAEYRS WANT SI NOT MERALEY AASY EPIS FOR THEMS3LV3S BUT ALSO FOR OTH3R PLAEYRS 2 NOT GET EASY EPIS!!!!! OMG WTFBUT RADE3RS WANT 3ASY 3PIS 2!1!!!!1! OMG WTF SO IMM NOT A RADEER AND I DONT HAEV ANY 3PIS!!1!!!POR ME RIGHT???!?!! OMG WTFWAL I HAD A FAW BUT I SOLD THEM ON DA AUCTION HOUES!!!!1! OMG WTF BUT RILLY FOR WUT DO I NED APIS?!!!!??! OMG WTF DO I NED 3PIS FOR STRATHOLM3 OR SCHOLOMANCE OR DIER MAUL??!!??? OMGHOW ABOUT FOR SILITHUS OR WINT3RSPRNG OR 3ASTERN PLAGUALANDS?!!!??? OMG WTF OF COURSE NOT!1!!!!1 WTF I WUD NED 3PIS FOR BLAKWNG LARE OR 40-MAN AHNQIRAJ EXC3PT TAHT I JUST SADE IMM NOT A RADEER!111111! OMG WTF THEIR R NO G3AR R3QUIERMENTS IN ORD3R NOT 2 DO AN INSTANC3!1!1!1!!1 OMG HE PURPOSE OF G3TNG LOT SI 2 B W3L-EQUIPED FOR FUTUR3 CHAL3NGAS!!11!!!!! WTFBUT THEIR SI ONLEY A FINIET MOUNT OF CONT3NT IN TEH GME!!!111!!! OMG WTFAT SOME POINT THEIR R NO FUTUR3 CHAL3NGES WORTH DONG-MEANNG TAHT AT TAHT POINT LOT BCOMES WORTHL3S!!!11!111 MANY PLAEYRS HAEV GONE PAST TAHT POINT WITHOUT REALIZNG IT AND STIL WANT MOR3 AND BTER EPIS!1!!111!!U CAN SE THEM WHINNG ABOUT IT HAR3 AVARY DAY!1!111!! WTFSO WUT ABOUT PVP?!!!?!! OMG ISNT IT UNFARE IF ON3 PLAEYR SI IN AL BLUE GEAR AND HAS 2 FIGHT ANOTHAR DEK3D OUT IN BLAKWNG LARE AND 40-MAN AHNQIRAJ EPIS??!!? WTFYEP PVP SI UNBALANC3D!11!1 WTF DUH!!111 WTFITS SUPOSED 2 B UNBALANCED!!1!!! WTFU SHUD HAEV FIGURAD THES OUT BY TEH TIEM U GOT UR FIRST CHARACTAR 2 LEV3L 2!1!!11! OMG HALF TEH POINT OF TEH L3V3LNG IN A L3V3LNG GM3 WIT PVP SI 2 INTANTIONALY MAEK TEH PVP UNBALANCED!1!1!1!1IF U DONT LIEK TAHT THAN DONT PVP!!!11!!! OMGPROBL3M SOLVAD!1!11!!1 IT GOES BAK 2 HOW PLAEYRS WANT EASY EPIS FOR THEMSELV3S AND NOT FOR OTH3RS!!1111! OMG WTFPLAEYRS WANT 2 WIN AND HENCE WANT WINNG 2 B BAESD ON WUT IT NEDS 2 B BAESD ON IN ORD3R FOR THEM 2 WIN!!11! OMGFOR PLAEYRS WIT MOR3 FRE TIEM THAN SKIL THEIR R LEVALNG GMAS WHAR3 WHOEVAR HAS DA MOST FRE TIEM WINS!111!!1IF UR LOKNG FOR COMBAT WHERA TEH WINAR SI BAESD ON SKIL UR TARIBLEY LOST!1!!1! WTF TRY LOKNG FOR A GMA WIT NO CONC3PT OF EXPAREINC3 L3V3LS!!!!1!! WTFBLIZARD MAEKS PVP UNBALANCED B/C TAHTS WUT PLAEYRS WANT!!!!!1!1! OMG WTF TH3Y HAEV 2 D3AL WIT TAHT RAALITY IN ORDAR 2 MAEK MON3Y!1!11!! OMG WTF AS TEH SAYNG GO3S DA CUS2MER SI ALWAYS RIGHT!11!!!11 WTF AND TAHTS Y COMPLANENG ABOUT PVP IMBALANCAS SI STUPID!!!11!!1 WTF BSIEDS IF BLIZARD W3RA 2 IMPL3MENT AL OF DA NARFS TAHT PLAEYRS HAEV CALED FOR WHEN THINKNG OF PVP IT WUD MAEK MUCH OF TEH PVA CONTANT HOR3NDOSLEY DIFICULT!!1!1!!1 OMG WTF AND TAHT WUD GIEV PLAEYRS YET ANOTHAR 2PIC ON WHICH 2 WHIEN!1!11!1 OMG WUT OTH3R RAASONS R THEYRE 2 GET EPIS APART FROM PVP AND PVA UESS????!! OMG WTF EGO P3RHAPS??!??!? 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Q. Where/when was bread invented?

A. Bread is one of the oldest foods known to man and has been a staple food for over 5,000 years. It even has the biblical name of The Staff of Life. Some 8,000 years ago man made flour by crushing grains between two stones. The flour was mixed with water and the paste was dried in the sun, making a bread. After this, a bake stone was used to bake a risen loaf.



Q. When did yeast come into it?

A. The Egyptians were the first to use yeast and produce risen loaves. They also invented the first oven for baking. From there on people ate every kind of bread, depending on where they lived.



Q. Where did the sandwich originate?

A. Better farming led to a higher yield of grain. Cornish tin mining produced bakiing tins and so bread was produced that could be sliced or used for toast. It was of course the 4th Earl of Sandwich who gave the name to the sandwich. The story goes he was too busy gambling to have a meal and he ordered cold roast beef between two slices of bread.



Q. How should you eat bread?

A. Handling bread gracefully is the test for a well-bred diner, but you can pass with flying colours if you remember to break slices of bread rolls and muffins into small pieces before eating and buttering them.



Q. Which flour is best for bread?

A. In the UK, plain flour is always made from soft grains, so this is used for cakes and pastry, while the one labelled strong flour has a high gluten content, so it is the one needed for most types of bread.



Q. What is flour milling?

A. What happens here is the what grains are crushed and ground, either between traditional milling stones or modern automatic rollers, but it's the human skill of the miller that determines the quality of the flour.



Q. Which flour do you need for a wholemeal loaf?

A. Use 100% organically produced wholewheat flour, plus a little extra for the top.



Q. What else do you find in a traditional wholemeal recipe?

A. Depending on how much you are making, two teaspoons of salt, one teaspoon of soft light brown sugar, two teaspoons of easy-blnd dried yeast and about 400mls of hand-hot water. Follow your bread-making recipe and this will produce either a 2lb loaf tin or two 1lb loaf tins.



Q. Which breads belong to which parts of the world?

A. Soda bread, mixed with bicarbonate of soda and buttermilk, gives you a real taste of the Emerald Isle. Flat breads, the earliest form of breads, are still eaten in much of the Middle East, Asia and Africa. The grains used in such breads are commonly barley, millet and buckwheat. Millet is used in chapatiis, which are popular in India. Corn is used to make small flat cakes known as tortillas in Latin America and in Brazil small cakes are made from cassava.



Q. And the Mediterraenean?

A. Italian in origin, crostini are 'little crusts'. In France they are called croutons and both are little round squares of bread brushed with olive oil or butter, and sometime crushed garlic, and baked in the oven. Brushetta is a very special type of toasted bread - toasted on both sides over hot, fragrant coals, then slashes are made along the surface of each bread, which is rubbed with a garlic clove. Peppery extra virgin olive oil is poured over and it can be easily made at home using a griddle. Other popular Italian breads are garlic bread, foccacia, calzone, a folded pizza type bread, and ciabatta; all made with olive oil and Italian herbs.

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04-28-2008, 04:24 PM
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Methais
04-28-2008, 04:28 PM
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The Internet is a worldwide, publicly accessible series of interconnected computer networks that transmit data by packet switching using the standard Internet Protocol (IP). It is a "network of networks" that consists of millions of smaller domestic, academic, business, and government networks, which together carry various information and services, such as electronic mail, online chat, file transfer, and the interlinked web pages and other resources of the World Wide Web (WWW).

Terminology

The Internet and the World Wide Web are not one and the same. The Internet is a collection of interconnected computer networks, linked by copper wires, fiber-optic cables, wireless connections, etc. In contrast, the Web is a collection of interconnected documents and other resources, linked by hyperlinks and URLs. The World Wide Web is one of the services accessible via the Internet, along with various others including e-mail, file sharing, online gaming and others described below. However, "the Internet" and "the Web" are commonly used interchangeably in non-technical settings.

History

Main article: History of the Internet

Creation

Main article: ARPANET

The USSR's launch of Sputnik spurred the United States to create the Advanced Research Projects Agency, known as ARPA, in February 1958 to regain a technological lead.[1][2] ARPA created the Information Processing Technology Office (IPTO) to further the research of the Semi Automatic Ground Environment (SAGE) program, which had networked country-wide radar systems together for the first time. J. C. R. Licklider was selected to head the IPTO, and saw universal networking as a potential unifying human revolution.

Licklider moved from the Psycho-Acoustic Laboratory at Harvard University to MIT in 1950, after becoming interested in information technology. At MIT, he served on a committee that established Lincoln Laboratory and worked on the SAGE project. In 1957 he became a Vice President at BBN, where he bought the first production PDP-1 computer and conducted the first public demonstration of time-sharing.

At the IPTO, Licklider recruited Lawrence Roberts to head a project to implement a network, and Roberts based the technology on the work of Paul Baran,[citation needed] who had written an exhaustive study for the U.S. Air Force that recommended packet switching (as opposed to circuit switching) to make a network highly robust and survivable. After much work, the first two nodes of what would become the ARPANET were interconnected between UCLA and SRI International in Menlo Park, California, on October 29, 1969. The ARPANET was one of the "eve" networks of today's Internet. Following on from the demonstration that packet switching worked on the ARPANET, the British Post Office, Telenet, DATAPAC and TRANSPAC collaborated to create the first international packet-switched network service. In the UK, this was referred to as the International Packet Stream Service (IPSS), in 1978. The collection of X.25-based networks grew from Europe and the US to cover Canada, Hong Kong and Australia by 1981. The X.25 packet switching standard was developed in the CCITT (now called ITU-T) around 1976. X.25 was independent of the TCP/IP protocols that arose from the experimental work of DARPA on the ARPANET, Packet Radio Net and Packet Satellite Net during the same time period. Vinton Cerf and Robert Kahn developed the first description of the TCP protocols during 1973 and published a paper on the subject in May 1974. Use of the term "Internet" to describe a single global TCP/IP network originated in December 1974 with the publication of RFC 674, the first full specification of TCP that was written by Vinton Cerf, Yogen Dalal and Carl Sunshine, then at Stanford University. During the next nine years, work proceeded to refine the protocols and to implement them on a wide range of operating systems.

The first TCP/IP-wide area network was made operational by January 1, 1983 when all hosts on the ARPANET were switched over from the older NCP protocols to TCP/IP. In 1985, the United States' National Science Foundation (NSF) commissioned the construction of a university 56 kilobit/second network backbone using computers called "fuzzballs" by their inventor, David L. Mills. The following year, NSF sponsored the development of a higher-speed 1.5 megabit/second backbone that became the NSFNet. A key decision to use the DARPA TCP/IP protocols was made by Dennis Jennings, then in charge of the Supercomputer program at NSF.

The opening of the network to commercial interests began in 1988. The US Federal Networking Council approved the interconnection of the NSFNET to the commercial MCI Mail system in that year and the link was made in the summer of 1989. Other commercial electronic e-mail services were soon connected, including OnTyme, Telemail and Compuserve. In that same year, three commercial Internet Service Providers were created: UUNET, PSINET and CERFNET. Important, separate networks that offered gateways into, then later merged with, the Internet include Usenet and BITNET. Various other commercial and educational networks, such as Telenet, Tymnet, Compuserve and JANET were interconnected with the growing Internet. Telenet (later called Sprintnet) was a large privately funded national computer network with free dial-up access in cities throughout the U.S. that had been in operation since the 1970s. This network was eventually interconnected with the others in the 1980s as the TCP/IP protocol became increasingly popular. The ability of TCP/IP to work over virtually any pre-existing communication networks allowed for a great ease of growth, although the rapid growth of the Internet was due primarily to the availability of commercial routers from companies such as Cisco Systems, Proteon and Juniper, the availability of commercial Ethernet equipment for local-area networking and the widespread implementation of TCP/IP on the UNIX operating system.

Growth

Although the basic applications and guidelines that make the Internet possible had existed for almost a decade, the network did not gain a public face until the 1990s. On August 6, 1991, CERN, which straddles the border between France and Switzerland, publicized the new World Wide Web project. The Web was invented by English scientist Tim Berners-Lee in 1989.

An early popular web browser was ViolaWWW, based upon HyperCard. It was eventually replaced in popularity by the Mosaic web browser. In 1993, the National Center for Supercomputing Applications at the University of Illinois released version 1.0 of Mosaic, and by late 1994 there was growing public interest in the previously academic, technical Internet. By 1996 usage of the word Internet had become commonplace, and consequently, so had its use as a synecdoche in reference to the World Wide Web.

Meanwhile, over the course of the decade, the Internet successfully accommodated the majority of previously existing public computer networks (although some networks, such as FidoNet, have remained separate). During the 1990s, it was estimated that the Internet grew by 100% per year, with a brief period of explosive growth in 1996 and 1997.[3] This growth is often attributed to the lack of central administration, which allows organic growth of the network, as well as the non-proprietary open nature of the Internet protocols, which encourages vendor interoperability and prevents any one company from exerting too much control over the network.[citation needed]

University students' appreciation and contributions

New findings in the field of communications during the 1960s, 1970s and 1980s were quickly adopted by universities across North America.

Examples of early university Internet communities are Cleveland FreeNet, Blacksburg Electronic Village and NSTN in Nova Scotia.[4] Students took up the opportunity of free communications and saw this new phenomenon as a tool of liberation. Personal computers and the Internet would free them from corporations and governments (Nelson, Jennings, Stallman).

Graduate students played a huge part in the creation of ARPANET. In the 1960s, the network working group, which did most of the design for ARPANET's protocols, was composed mainly of graduate students.

Today's Internet
The My Opera Community server rack. From the top, user file storage (content of files.myopera.com), "bigma" (the master MySQL database server), and two IBM blade centers containing multi-purpose machines (Apache front ends, Apache back ends, slave MySQL database servers, load balancers, file servers, cache servers and sync masters).
The My Opera Community server rack. From the top, user file storage (content of files.myopera.com), "bigma" (the master MySQL database server), and two IBM blade centers containing multi-purpose machines (Apache front ends, Apache back ends, slave MySQL database servers, load balancers, file servers, cache servers and sync masters).

Aside from the complex physical connections that make up its infrastructure, the Internet is facilitated by bi- or multi-lateral commercial contracts (e.g., peering agreements), and by technical specifications or protocols that describe how to exchange data over the network. Indeed, the Internet is essentially defined by its interconnections and routing policies.

As of December 30, 2007, 1.319 billion people use the Internet according to Internet World Stats.

Internet protocols

For more details on this topic, see Internet Protocols.

In this context, there are three layers of protocols:

* At the lower level (OSI layer 3) is IP (Internet Protocol), which defines the datagrams or packets that carry blocks of data from one node to another. The vast majority of today's Internet uses version four of the IP protocol (i.e. IPv4), and, although IPv6 is standardized, it exists only as "islands" of connectivity, and there are many ISPs without any IPv6 connectivity.[5] ICMP (Internet Control Message Protocol) also exists at this level. ICMP is connectionless; it is used for control, signaling, and error reporting purposes.

* TCP (Transmission Control Protocol) and UDP (User Datagram Protocol) exist at the next layer up (OSI layer 4); these are the protocols by which data is transmitted. TCP makes a virtual "connection", which gives some level of guarantee of reliability. UDP is a best-effort, connectionless transport, in which data packets that are lost in transit will not be re-sent.

* The application protocols sit on top of TCP and UDP and occupy layers 5, 6, and 7 of the OSI model. These define the specific messages and data formats sent and understood by the applications running at each end of the communication. Examples of these protocols are HTTP, FTP, and SMTP.

Internet structure

There have been many analyses of the Internet and its structure. For example, it has been determined that the Internet IP routing structure and hypertext links of the World Wide Web are examples of scale-free networks.

Similar to the way the commercial Internet providers connect via Internet exchange points, research networks tend to interconnect into large subnetworks such as:

* GEANT
* GLORIAD
* The Internet2 Network (formally known as the Abilene Network)
* JANET (the UK's national research and education network)

These in turn are built around relatively smaller networks. See also the list of academic computer network organizations.

In network diagrams, the Internet is often represented by a cloud symbol, into and out of which network communications can pass.

ICANN
ICANN headquarters in Marina Del Rey, California, United States
ICANN headquarters in Marina Del Rey, California, United States

For more details on this topic, see ICANN.

The Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) is the authority that coordinates the assignment of unique identifiers on the Internet, including domain names, Internet Protocol (IP) addresses, and protocol port and parameter numbers. A globally unified namespace (i.e., a system of names in which there is at most one holder for each possible name) is essential for the Internet to function. ICANN is headquartered in Marina del Rey, California, but is overseen by an international board of directors drawn from across the Internet technical, business, academic, and non-commercial communities. The US government continues to have the primary role in approving changes to the root zone file that lies at the heart of the domain name system. Because the Internet is a distributed network comprising many voluntarily interconnected networks, the Internet, as such, has no governing body. ICANN's role in coordinating the assignment of unique identifiers distinguishes it as perhaps the only central coordinating body on the global Internet, but the scope of its authority extends only to the Internet's systems of domain names, IP addresses, protocol ports and parameter numbers.

On November 16, 2005, the World Summit on the Information Society, held in Tunis, established the Internet Governance Forum (IGF) to discuss Internet-related issues.

Language

For more details on this topic, see English on the Internet.
Further information: Unicode

The prevalent language for communication on the Internet is English. This may be a result of the Internet's origins, as well as English's role as the lingua franca. It may also be related to the poor capability of early computers, largely originating in the United States, to handle characters other than those in the English variant of the Latin alphabet.

After English (31% of Web visitors) the most requested languages on the World Wide Web are Chinese (16%), Spanish (9%), Japanese (7%), German (5%) and French (5%).[6]

By continent, 37% of the world's Internet users are based in Asia, 27% in Europe, 19% in North America, and 9% in Latin America and the Carribean.[7]

The Internet's technologies have developed enough in recent years, especially in the use of Unicode, that good facilities are available for development and communication in most widely used languages. However, some glitches such as mojibake (incorrect display of foreign language characters, also known as kryakozyabry) still remain.

Internet and the workplace

The Internet is allowing greater flexibility in working hours and location, especially with the spread of unmetered high-speed connections and Web applications.

The Internet viewed on mobile devices

The Internet can now be accessed virtually anywhere by numerous means. Mobile phones, datacards, handheld game consoles and cellular routers allow users to connect to the Internet from anywhere there is a cellular network supporting that device's technology.

Common uses of the Internet

E-mail

For more details on this topic, see E-mail.

The concept of sending electronic text messages between parties in a way analogous to mailing letters or memos predates the creation of the Internet. Even today it can be important to distinguish between Internet and internal e-mail systems. Internet e-mail may travel and be stored unencrypted on many other networks and machines out of both the sender's and the recipient's control. During this time it is quite possible for the content to be read and even tampered with by third parties, if anyone considers it important enough. Purely internal or intranet mail systems, where the information never leaves the corporate or organization's network, are much more secure, although in any organization there will be IT and other personnel whose job may involve monitoring, and occasionally accessing, the e-mail of other employees not addressed to them.

The World Wide Web

For more details on this topic, see World Wide Web.

Graphic representation of a minute fraction of the WWW, demonstrating hyperlinks
Graphic representation of a minute fraction of the WWW, demonstrating hyperlinks

Many people use the terms Internet and World Wide Web (or just the Web) interchangeably, but, as discussed above, the two terms are not synonymous.

The World Wide Web is a huge set of interlinked documents, images and other resources, linked by hyperlinks and URLs. These hyperlinks and URLs allow the web servers and other machines that store originals, and cached copies, of these resources to deliver them as required using HTTP (Hypertext Transfer Protocol). HTTP is only one of the communication protocols used on the Internet.

Web services also use HTTP to allow software systems to communicate in order to share and exchange business logic and data.

Software products that can access the resources of the Web are correctly termed user agents. In normal use, web browsers, such as Internet Explorer and Firefox, access web pages and allow users to navigate from one to another via hyperlinks. Web documents may contain almost any combination of computer data including graphics, sounds, text, video, multimedia and interactive content including games, office applications and scientific demonstrations.

Through keyword-driven Internet research using search engines like Yahoo! and Google, millions of people worldwide have easy, instant access to a vast and diverse amount of online information. Compared to encyclopedias and traditional libraries, the World Wide Web has enabled a sudden and extreme decentralization of information and data.

Using the Web, it is also easier than ever before for individuals and organisations to publish ideas and information to an extremely large audience. Anyone can find ways to publish a web page or build a website for very little initial cost. Publishing and maintaining large, professional websites full of attractive, diverse and up-to-date information is still a difficult and expensive proposition, however.

Many individuals and some companies and groups use "web logs" or blogs, which are largely used as easily updatable online diaries. Some commercial organisations encourage staff to fill them with advice on their areas of specialization in the hope that visitors will be impressed by the expert knowledge and free information, and be attracted to the corporation as a result. One example of this practice is Microsoft, whose product developers publish their personal blogs in order to pique the public's interest in their work.

Collections of personal web pages published by large service providers remain popular, and have become increasingly sophisticated. Whereas operations such as Angelfire and GeoCities have existed since the early days of the Web, newer offerings from, for example, Facebook and MySpace currently have large followings. These operations often brand themselves as social network services rather than simply as web page hosts.

Advertising on popular web pages can be lucrative, and e-commerce or the sale of products and services directly via the Web continues to grow.

In the early days, web pages were usually created as sets of complete and isolated HTML text files stored on a web server. More recently, websites are more often created using content management system (CMS) or wiki software with, initially, very little content. Contributors to these systems, who may be paid staff, members of a club or other organisation or members of the public, fill underlying databases with content using editing pages designed for that purpose, while casual visitors view and read this content in its final HTML form. There may or may not be editorial, approval and security systems built into the process of taking newly entered content and making it available to the target visitors.

Remote access

Further information: Remote access

The Internet allows computer users to connect to other computers and information stores easily, wherever they may be across the world. They may do this with or without the use of security, authentication and encryption technologies, depending on the requirements.

This is encouraging new ways of working from home, collaboration and information sharing in many industries. An accountant sitting at home can audit the books of a company based in another country, on a server situated in a third country that is remotely maintained by IT specialists in a fourth. These accounts could have been created by home-working bookkeepers, in other remote locations, based on information e-mailed to them from offices all over the world. Some of these things were possible before the widespread use of the Internet, but the cost of private leased lines would have made many of them infeasible in practice.

An office worker away from his desk, perhaps on the other side of the world on a business trip or a holiday, can open a remote desktop session into his normal office PC using a secure Virtual Private Network (VPN) connection via the Internet. This gives the worker complete access to all of his or her normal files and data, including e-mail and other applications, while away from the office.

This concept is also referred to by some network security people as the Virtual Private Nightmare, because it extends the secure perimeter of a corporate network into its employees' homes; this has been the source of some notable security breaches, but also provides security for the workers.

Collaboration

See also: Collaborative software

The low cost and nearly instantaneous sharing of ideas, knowledge, and skills has made collaborative work dramatically easier. Not only can a group cheaply communicate and test, but the wide reach of the Internet allows such groups to easily form in the first place, even among niche interests. An example of this is the free software movement in software development, which produced GNU and Linux from scratch and has taken over development of Mozilla and OpenOffice.org (formerly known as Netscape Communicator and StarOffice). Films such as Zeitgeist, Loose Change and Endgame have had extensive coverage on the Internet, while being virtually ignored in the mainstream media.

Internet "chat", whether in the form of IRC "chat rooms" or channels, or via instant messaging systems, allow colleagues to stay in touch in a very convenient way when working at their computers during the day. Messages can be sent and viewed even more quickly and conveniently than via e-mail. Extension to these systems may allow files to be exchanged, "whiteboard" drawings to be shared as well as voice and video contact between team members.

Version control systems allow collaborating teams to work on shared sets of documents without either accidentally overwriting each other's work or having members wait until they get "sent" documents to be able to add their thoughts and changes.

File sharing

For more details on this topic, see File sharing.

A computer file can be e-mailed to customers, colleagues and friends as an attachment. It can be uploaded to a website or FTP server for easy download by others. It can be put into a "shared location" or onto a file server for instant use by colleagues. The load of bulk downloads to many users can be eased by the use of "mirror" servers or peer-to-peer networks.

In any of these cases, access to the file may be controlled by user authentication; the transit of the file over the Internet may be obscured by encryption, and money may change hands before or after access to the file is given. The price can be paid by the remote charging of funds from, for example, a credit card whose details are also passed—hopefully fully encrypted—across the Internet. The origin and authenticity of the file received may be checked by digital signatures or by MD5 or other message digests.

These simple features of the Internet, over a worldwide basis, are changing the basis for the production, sale, and distribution of anything that can be reduced to a computer file for transmission. This includes all manner of print publications, software products, news, music, film, video, photography, graphics and the other arts. This in turn has caused seismic shifts in each of the existing industries that previously controlled the production and distribution of these products.

Internet collaboration technology enables business and project teams to share documents, calendars and other information. Such collaboration occurs in a wide variety of areas including scientific research, software development, conference planning, political activism and creative writing.

Streaming media

Many existing radio and television broadcasters provide Internet "feeds" of their live audio and video streams (for example, the BBC). They may also allow time-shift viewing or listening such as Preview, Classic Clips and Listen Again features. These providers have been joined by a range of pure Internet "broadcasters" who never had on-air licenses. This means that an Internet-connected device, such as a computer or something more specific, can be used to access on-line media in much the same way as was previously possible only with a television or radio receiver. The range of material is much wider, from pornography to highly specialized, technical webcasts. Podcasting is a variation on this theme, where—usually audio—material is first downloaded in full and then may be played back on a computer or shifted to a digital audio player to be listened to on the move. These techniques using simple equipment allow anybody, with little censorship or licensing control, to broadcast audio-visual material on a worldwide basis.

Webcams can be seen as an even lower-budget extension of this phenomenon. While some webcams can give full-frame-rate video, the picture is usually either small or updates slowly. Internet users can watch animals around an African waterhole, ships in the Panama Canal, the traffic at a local roundabout or their own premises, live and in real time. Video chat rooms, video conferencing, and remote controllable webcams are also popular. Many uses can be found for personal webcams in and around the home, with and without two-way sound.

YouTube, sometimes described as an Internet phenomenon because of the vast amount of users and how rapidly the site's popularity has grown, was founded on February 15, 2005. It is now the leading website for free streaming video. It uses a flash-based web player which streams video files in the format FLV. Users are able to watch videos without signing up; however, if users do sign up they are able to upload an unlimited amount of videos and they are given their own personal profile. It is currently estimated that there are 64,000,000 videos on YouTube, and it is also currently estimated that 825,000 new videos are uploaded every day.

Voice telephony (VoIP)

For more details on this topic, see VoIP.

VoIP stands for Voice over IP, where IP refers to the Internet Protocol that underlies all Internet communication. This phenomenon began as an optional two-way voice extension to some of the instant messaging systems that took off around the year 2000. In recent years many VoIP systems have become as easy to use and as convenient as a normal telephone. The benefit is that, as the Internet carries the actual voice traffic, VoIP can be free or cost much less than a normal telephone call, especially over long distances and especially for those with always-on Internet connections such as cable or ADSL.

Thus, VoIP is maturing into a viable alternative to traditional telephones. Interoperability between different providers has improved and the ability to call or receive a call from a traditional telephone is available. Simple, inexpensive VoIP modems are now available that eliminate the need for a PC.

Voice quality can still vary from call to call but is often equal to and can even exceed that of traditional calls.

Remaining problems for VoIP include emergency telephone number dialling and reliability. Currently, a few VoIP providers provide an emergency service, but it is not universally available. Traditional phones are line-powered and operate during a power failure; VoIP does not do so without a backup power source for the electronics.

Most VoIP providers offer unlimited national calling, but the direction in VoIP is clearly toward global coverage with unlimited minutes for a low monthly fee.

VoIP has also become increasingly popular within the gaming world, as a form of communication between players. Popular gaming VoIP clients include Ventrilo and Teamspeak, and there are others available also. The PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 also offer VoIP chat features.

Internet by region

Main article: Internet access worldwide
Main article: List of countries by number of Internet users

Internet access

For more details on this topic, see Internet access.

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Common methods of home access include dial-up, landline broadband (over coaxial cable, fiber optic or copper wires), Wi-Fi, satellite and 3G technology cell phones.

Public places to use the Internet include libraries and Internet cafes, where computers with Internet connections are available. There are also Internet access points in many public places such as airport halls and coffee shops, in some cases just for brief use while standing. Various terms are used, such as "public Internet kiosk", "public access terminal", and "Web payphone". Many hotels now also have public terminals, though these are usually fee-based. These terminals are widely accessed for various usage like ticket booking, bank deposit, online payment etc. Wi-Fi provides wireless access to computer networks, and therefore can do so to the Internet itself. Hotspots providing such access include Wi-Fi cafes, where would-be users need to bring their own wireless-enabled devices such as a laptop or PDA. These services may be free to all, free to customers only, or fee-based. A hotspot need not be limited to a confined location. A whole campus or park, or even an entire city can be enabled. Grassroots efforts have led to wireless community networks. Commercial Wi-Fi services covering large city areas are in place in London, Vienna, Toronto, San Francisco, Philadelphia, Chicago and Pittsburgh. The Internet can then be accessed from such places as a park bench.[8]

Apart from Wi-Fi, there have been experiments with proprietary mobile wireless networks like Ricochet, various high-speed data services over cellular phone networks, and fixed wireless services.

High-end mobile phones such as smartphones generally come with Internet access through the phone network. Web browsers such as Opera are available on these advanced handsets, which can also run a wide variety of other Internet software. More mobile phones have Internet access than PCs, though this is not as widely used. An Internet access provider and protocol matrix differentiates the methods used to get online.

Social impact

The Internet has made possible entirely new forms of social interaction, activities and organizing, thanks to its basic features such as widespread usability and access.

Social networking websites such as Facebook and MySpace have created a new form of socialization and interaction. Users of these sites are able to add a wide variety of items to their personal pages, to indicate common interests, and to connect with others. It is also possible to find a large circle of existing acquaintances, especially if a site allows users to utilize their real names, and to allow communication among large existing groups of people.

Sites like meetup.com exist to allow wider announcement of groups which may exist mainly for face-to-face meetings, but which may have a variety of minor interactions over their group's site at meetup.org, or other similar sites.

Political organization and censorship

For more details on this topic, see Internet censorship.

In democratic societies, the Internet has achieved new relevance as a political tool. The presidential campaign of Howard Dean in 2004 in the United States became famous for its ability to generate donations via the Internet. Many political groups use the Internet to achieve a whole new method of organizing, in order to carry out Internet activism.

Some governments, such as those of Cuba, Iran, North Korea, Myanmar, the People's Republic of China, and Saudi Arabia, restrict what people in their countries can access on the Internet, especially political and religious content. This is accomplished through software that filters domains and content so that they may not be easily accessed or obtained without elaborate circumvention.

In Norway, Denmark, Finland and Sweden, major Internet service providers have voluntarily (possibly to avoid such an arrangement being turned into law) agreed to restrict access to sites listed by police. While this list of forbidden URLs is only supposed to contain addresses of known child pornography sites, the content of the list is secret.[citation needed]

Many countries, including the United States, have enacted laws making the possession or distribution of certain material, such as child pornography, illegal, but do not use filtering software.

There are many free and commercially available software programs with which a user can choose to block offensive websites on individual computers or networks, such as to limit a child's access to pornography or violence. See Content-control software.

Leisure activites

The Internet has been a major source of leisure since before the World Wide Web, with entertaining social experiments such as MUDs and MOOs being conducted on university servers, and humor-related Usenet groups receiving much of the main traffic. Today, many Internet forums have sections devoted to games and funny videos; short cartoons in the form of Flash movies are also popular. Over 6 million people use blogs or message boards as a means of communication and for the sharing of ideas.

The pornography and gambling industries have both taken full advantage of the World Wide Web, and often provide a significant source of advertising revenue for other websites. Although many governments have attempted to put restrictions on both industries' use of the Internet, this has generally failed to stop their widespread popularity.

One main area of leisure on the Internet is multiplayer gaming. This form of leisure creates communities, bringing people of all ages and origins to enjoy the fast-paced world of multiplayer games. These range from MMORPG to first-person shooters, from role-playing games to online gambling. This has revolutionized the way many people interact and spend their free time on the Internet.

While online gaming has been around since the 1970s, modern modes of online gaming began with services such as GameSpy and MPlayer, to which players of games would typically subscribe. Non-subscribers were limited to certain types of gameplay or certain games.

Many use the Internet to access and download music, movies and other works for their enjoyment and relaxation. As discussed above, there are paid and unpaid sources for all of these, using centralized servers and distributed peer-to-peer technologies. Discretion is needed as some of these sources take more care over the original artists' rights and over copyright laws than others.

Many use the World Wide Web to access news, weather and sports reports, to plan and book holidays and to find out more about their random ideas and casual interests.

People use chat, messaging and e-mail to make and stay in touch with friends worldwide, sometimes in the same way as some previously had pen pals. Social networking websites like MySpace, Facebook and many others like them also put and keep people in contact for their enjoyment.

The Internet has seen a growing number of Web desktops, where users can access their files, folders, and settings via the Internet.

Cyberslacking has become a serious drain on corporate resources; the average UK employee spends 57 minutes a day surfing the Web at work, according to a study by Peninsula Business Services.[9]

Complex architecture

Many computer scientists see the Internet as a "prime example of a large-scale, highly engineered, yet highly complex system".[10] The Internet is extremely heterogeneous. (For instance, data transfer rates and physical characteristics of connections vary widely.) The Internet exhibits "emergent phenomena" that depend on its large-scale organization. For example, data transfer rates exhibit temporal self-similarity. Further adding to the complexity of the Internet is the ability of more than one computer to use the Internet through only one node, thus creating the possibility for a very deep and hierarchal sub-network that can theoretically be extended infinitely (disregarding the programmatic limitations of the IPv4 protocol). However, since principles of this architecture date back to the 1960s, it might not be a solution best suited to modern needs, and thus the possibility of developing alternative structures is currently being looked into.[11]

According to a June 2007 article in Discover magazine, the combined weight of all the electrons moved within the Internet in a day is 0.2 millionths of an ounce.[12] Others have estimated this at nearer 2 ounces (50 grams).[13]

Marketing

The Internet has also become a large market for companies; some of the biggest companies today have grown by taking advantage of the efficient nature of low-cost advertising and commerce through the Internet, also known as e-commerce. It is the fastest way to spread information to a vast number of people simultaneously. The Internet has also subsequently revolutionized shopping—for example; a person can order a CD online and receive it in the mail within a couple of days, or download it directly in some cases. The Internet has also greatly facilitated personalized marketing which allows a company to market a product to a specific person or a specific group of people more so than any other advertising medium.

Examples of personalized marketing include online communities such as MySpace, Friendster, Orkut, Facebook and others which thousands of Internet users join to advertise themselves and make friends online. Many of these users are young teens and adolescents ranging from 13 to 25 years old. In turn, when they advertise themselves they advertise interests and hobbies, which online marketing companies can use as information as to what those users will purchase online, and advertise their own companies' products to those users.

Further information: Disintermediation#Impact of Internet-related disintermediation upon various industries and Travel agency#The Internet threat

The terms internet and Internet

For more details on this topic, see Internet capitalization conventions.

Look up Internet, internet in Wiktionary, the free dictionary.

Like any noun, Internet is written with a capital first letter when it is a proper noun and without capitalization when it is a common noun. The Internet Society, the Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF), the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN), the World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), and several other Internet-related organizations use this convention in their publications. Originally, Internet was used without placement of the word the before Internet, as with the acronym ARPANET. Eventually, use of the term "the Internet" won out in the popular lexicon, perhaps due to confusion with "the Word Wide Web". Ironically, this change was not a subject of wide debate, though it led to subsequent debates over the continued capitalization of Internet.[citation needed]

Many newspapers, newswires, periodicals, and technical journals capitalize the term (Internet). Examples include The New York Times, the Associated Press, Time, The Times of India, Hindustan Times, and Communications of the ACM.

Others assert that the first letter should be in lower case (internet), and that the specific article the is sufficient to distinguish "the internet" from other internets; in other words, that the word internet is always a common noun. This requires that the reader depend on context to understand whether "the internet" refers to an internet the writer has previously mentioned or to the well-known world-wide network. A significant number of publications use this form, including The Economist, the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, the Financial Times, The Guardian, The Times, and The Sydney Morning Herald. As of 2005, many publications using internet appear to be located outside of North America—although one U.S. news source, Wired News, has adopted the lower-case spelling.

Historically, Internet and internet have had different meanings, with internet meaning "an interconnected set of distinct networks", i.e. a network of networks, and Internet referring to the largest internet, the worldwide, publicly-available IP internet. In this usage, the Internet is the familiar network on which public Web sites exist; however, an internet is any network of smaller networks.[14] Any group of networks connected together is an internet; each of these networks may or may not be part of the Internet. The distinction is evident in many RFCs, books, and articles from the 1980s and early 1990s (some of which, such as RFC 1918, refer to "internets" in the plural). Some argue that the usage apparently agreed by the IETF, ICANN, the W3C, and the Internet Society is by definition the correct usage.


Someone translate that to h4x0r.

Parkbandit
04-28-2008, 04:36 PM
I don't think it's fair to throw Tsa'ah under the bus like this, Methais.

I think someone owes someone an apology.

yesicj
04-28-2008, 04:41 PM
I am 40.


Frankly, it's not that important to me and if you find my post unreadable, you must have a very hard time on the internet.

And you're posting on an online message board like a 13-year-old still dazzled by how cool the internet is because he can swear and hide behind the "it's the internet" excuse instead of trying to be coherent. I can only 1) hope that you're lying about your age; or 2) feel sorry for you that this is as much as it appears you've grown up after 40 years.

Joe
04-28-2008, 04:43 PM
And you're posting on an online message board like a 13-year-old still dazzled by how cool the internet is because he can swear and hide behind the "it's the internet" excuse instead of trying to be coherent. I can only 1) hope that you're lying about your age; or 2) feel sorry for you that this is as much as it appears you've grown up after 40 years.

I think they made a movie about him...

CrystalTears
04-28-2008, 04:44 PM
I think they made a movie about him...
Forrest Gump?

yesicj
04-28-2008, 04:45 PM
I think they made a movie about him...

Hey, you leave Steve Carell out of this!

Asha
04-28-2008, 04:53 PM
That's what I thought

diethx
04-28-2008, 05:12 PM
I was actually thinking the Waterboy, but a much less funny (more retarded) version.

LG422
04-28-2008, 05:23 PM
And you're posting on an online message board like a 13-year-old still dazzled by how cool the internet is because he can swear and hide behind the "it's the internet" excuse instead of trying to be coherent. I can only 1) hope that you're lying about your age; or 2) feel sorry for you that this is as much as it appears you've grown up after 40 years.


What's funny is you feel a need to admonish me when there are people engaged in MUCH more sophomoric behavior in this very thread than anything I have done. You miss the fact that my original postings in THIS thread were resultant from Emeradan's childish reaction to my using the abbreviation while casting/singing at COCKroaches and much of my vulgarity used in this instance stems from that. However, I like to curse..I curse a lot..I curse you and your STUPID, wretched, fucking, shit heeled ass.
As to your position that I post the way I do because "it's the interenet", I wonder how much you get out these days because people of all ages,creeds,orientations,sexes,etc often shock me with their use of language..because it rivals or exceeds my own profanity. If you think I need to HIDE on the internet you can feel free to provide me with your phone numbers and other contact information and we can take it out of hiding...otherwise shut the fuck up.

P.S. that was not a physical threat. I meet words with words.

P.P.S. Are you an Emeradan Fan? If not put this BACK on topic away from the flames of myself and back towards the topic that being Emeradan and it's abuse of players.

SayGoodbye
04-28-2008, 05:26 PM
Where all reason and logic fails, CAPITALIZATION prevails.

LG422
04-28-2008, 05:27 PM
Where all reason and logic fails, CAPITALIZATION prevails.

The FURY is UNLEASHED!

BigWorm
04-28-2008, 05:33 PM
What's funny is you feel a need to admonish me when there are people engaged in MUCH more sophomoric behavior in this very thread than anything I have done. You miss the fact that my original postings in THIS thread were resultant from Emeradan's childish reaction to my using the abbreviation while casting/singing at COCKroaches and much of my vulgarity used in this instance stems from that. However, I like to curse..I curse a lot..I curse you and your STUPID, wretched, fucking, shit heeled ass.
As to your position that I post the way I do because "it's the interenet", I wonder how much you get out these days because people of all ages,creeds,orientations,sexes,etc often shock me with their use of language..because it rivals or exceeds my own profanity. If you think I need to HIDE on the internet you can feel free to provide me with your phone numbers and other contact information and we can take it out of hiding...otherwise shut the fuck up.

P.S. that was not a physical threat. I meet words with words.

P.P.S. Are you an Emeradan Fan? If not put this BACK on topic away from the flames of myself and back towards the topic that being Emeradan and it's abuse of players.

If you curse so much, you should be better at it. That was mostly just sad.

LG422
04-28-2008, 05:58 PM
If you curse so much, you should be better at it. That was mostly just sad.


Nimi Shimi Pec Pogido
Ip Dak Cha!
Napoon nom.

Methais
04-28-2008, 06:06 PM
The FURY is UNLEASHED!

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=LMhxkhbZVVzmxxRiumo

LG422
04-28-2008, 06:33 PM
And you're posting on an online message board like a 13-year-old still dazzled by how cool the internet is because he can swear and hide behind the "it's the internet"

Something else I just realized..I am maybe one of the only people on here that has an avatar that is actually of them. I have NEVER hidden on the internet. My main character was always intended to be an extension of me. Unlike most people on the internet, I have never wanted to escape from who I am.
Of course that will illicit many other negative responses..ultimately all of you are so predictable. I told the Farmer about my Emeradan experience and he encouraged me to post it..I said I planned to..I just wasn't in the mood, at that exact moment what with my irritation at the Empath disease, for the always expected avalanche of bullshit from people that say things to you that are actually projections of their own shortcomings .
Have you ever gone back and reread your posts and thought just how much of your life you pissed away here..being nasty to someone, often for something so utterly petty, your own mother would hate to admit to you as her own. It's part of the reason I tend to avoid posting on boards extensively because its a constant negative experience. Sure much of it can be funny, but what's the cost? I personally think the hatred that one spews online spills over into your real life. I have never thought it was "just the internet" because I realized early on just how much what happens online can influence one's actual life. Of course..as most of you are addicts..like addicts you will deny the truth.

Rimalon
04-28-2008, 06:53 PM
Must... resist... urge... to... translate... post... into... 12-year-old... AOL-er... speak...

Asha
04-28-2008, 07:10 PM
Now now, sweeping generalizations aside.. They aren't usually taken too well here.

Stanley Burrell
04-28-2008, 08:30 PM
Something else I just realized..I am maybe one of the only people on here that has an avatar that is actually of them. I have NEVER hidden on the internet. My main character was always intended to be an extension of me. Unlike most people on the internet, I have never wanted to escape from who I am.
Of course that will illicit many other negative responses..ultimately all of you are so predictable. I told the Farmer about my Emeradan experience and he encouraged me to post it..I said I planned to..I just wasn't in the mood, at that exact moment what with my irritation at the Empath disease, for the always expected avalanche of bullshit from people that say things to you that are actually projections of their own shortcomings .
Have you ever gone back and reread your posts and thought just how much of your life you pissed away here..being nasty to someone, often for something so utterly petty, your own mother would hate to admit to you as her own. It's part of the reason I tend to avoid posting on boards extensively because its a constant negative experience. Sure much of it can be funny, but what's the cost? I personally think the hatred that one spews online spills over into your real life. I have never thought it was "just the internet" because I realized early on just how much what happens online can influence one's actual life. Of course..as most of you are addicts..like addicts you will deny the truth.


Presentation is everything:



Off-topic, but something that I've just noticed and thought I might mention:

I am (I think) one of the few, if not the only poster who uses a personal picture of MYSELF as my avatar on these forums. To me, the whole openness thing (relating to my avatar being me, for now) conveys what I see as a disturbing pattern, which is people on weblogs posting under userhandles that assume a facade. I seriously believe a whole heck of a lot of you do this because of some personal problem and fear you have, correspondingly, that demonstrates this level of cowardice that I foresee. It's just a weird opinion of mine (douche-y, yes, I dunno though. Sorry, but anyways...)

I mean, what might happen now, just after this post, is just a cyclical barrage of responses on par with typical one-liners that've gotten old, already, that a bunch of you hash out at me. JUST GIVE ME A CHANCE, :lol: And I am sorry that I've posted in an incoherent manner, it's not really something (like my personal picture) that I hide from you guys :)

What I think happened, and someone correct me/make a few helpful suggestions in case there's another side of the story, is that someone said something to somebody and then somebody said something to someone else. I then made a post on the Internet.

Have you ever gone back and reread my posts and thought, "Well, besides LG422's inability to type, maybe if I can get past the murder of The English Language, I can at least try and find some kind of neutral ground" ..? I dunno if you folks will give me that chance or not, whether I've blown it, subsequently. But can I get a fresh start -- I feel like things, for whatever reason, didn't stay their course and I have been involved in making many posts that are utterly petty; so thoroughly paltry, that my own mother would hate to admit to me as being a child of hers. So I apologize, again, for my inconsistency and incoherency where it has and will appear.

That being said, this is mainly why I tend to avoid these sorts of situations. I hope you can forgive my conduct and we can turn this negative experience into something that is funny and doesn't cost us valuable vBulletin text-space. Or however that goes :-X

The Internet can be addictive. I myself get wrapped up in disaffirming what I perceive as falsehoods from time to time.

Speaking of which …

I would absolutely enjoy sucking dick for crack, but just as an action I've engaged in before, time and again, without stereotypes having to apply to my habits. I just live in this hazy rock smoke-filled bubble and it makes me say silly thing sometimes. Sorry guys. Hopefully I can fellate some of you soon, as a longtime swinger personality-type, not just some harlot I'm always associated with for living this particular lifestyle.

Well-appreciated you guys & gals. Thanks.

- L.G. 4-2-2 (My POW # from when I served in Darfur and was captured by child-mollesting Taliban extremists, heh. Got a lotta stories, but God/Allah/Forces of Nature/Atheists' blessings for now, y'all.)

Asha
04-28-2008, 08:33 PM
:lol: :lol:

Stretch
04-28-2008, 08:34 PM
Dude, there's a picture thread. Dozens (probably hundreds) of us have posted pictures of ourselves, not all flattering.

Punctuation + spaces are your friend. Nobody wants to read a wall of text, and probably no one will. I'd rather read one of Hevinsbane's posts than yours.

Methais
04-28-2008, 09:03 PM
Something else I just realized..I am maybe one of the only people on here that has an avatar that is actually of them. I have NEVER hidden on the internet. My main character was always intended to be an extension of me. Unlike most people on the internet, I have never wanted to escape from who I am.
Of course that will illicit many other negative responses..ultimately all of you are so predictable. I told the Farmer about my Emeradan experience and he encouraged me to post it..I said I planned to..I just wasn't in the mood, at that exact moment what with my irritation at the Empath disease, for the always expected avalanche of bullshit from people that say things to you that are actually projections of their own shortcomings .
Have you ever gone back and reread your posts and thought just how much of your life you pissed away here..being nasty to someone, often for something so utterly petty, your own mother would hate to admit to you as her own. It's part of the reason I tend to avoid posting on boards extensively because its a constant negative experience. Sure much of it can be funny, but what's the cost? I personally think the hatred that one spews online spills over into your real life. I have never thought it was "just the internet" because I realized early on just how much what happens online can influence one's actual life. Of course..as most of you are addicts..like addicts you will deny the truth.

I'm guessing that's you in the middle...standing WAY back from the camera? If not, then where the fuck are you in that picture? Cause I'm just not seeing it. And if I am, you're standing too far back to be able to actually see more than the general human shape of some guy standing in his yard.

LG422
04-28-2008, 09:08 PM
Dude, there's a picture thread. Dozens (probably hundreds) of us have posted pictures of ourselves, not all flattering.

Punctuation + spaces are your friend. Nobody wants to read a wall of text, and probably no one will. I'd rather read one of Hevinsbane's posts than yours.


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That Jay
04-28-2008, 09:12 PM
Emeradan must have had a seriously rough time in high school.

Either that or he feels powerless in his day job as Manager of a Fridays or Bennigans or whatever.

diethx
04-28-2008, 09:14 PM
Either that or he feels powerless in his day job as server at a Fridays or Bennigans or whatever.

Fixed.

LG422
04-28-2008, 09:19 PM
Either that or he feels powerless in his day job as Manager of a Fridays or Bennigans or whatever.


How could he POSSIBLY(DAMN that cap button fury) have a day job and read every freakin post that goes through Gemstone forums, censor a quarter of them, monitor the game like a hawk with a hard on(an anatomical impossibility) and spend as much time as he does in consultations and have an actual job of any sort?

Stanley Burrell
04-28-2008, 09:30 PM
I'm guessing that's you in the middle...standing WAY back from the camera? If not, then where the fuck are you in that picture? Cause I'm just not seeing it. And if I am, you're standing too far back to be able to actually see more than the general human shape of some guy standing in his yard.

I swear to God I thought it was a stillframe of the buggy/haunted house from "Beyond."

http://mag.awn.com/issue7.12/7.12images/peszko13_beyond.jpg

Methais
04-28-2008, 09:33 PM
How could he POSSIBLY(DAMN that cap button fury) have a day job and read every freakin post that goes through Gemstone forums, censor a quarter of them, monitor the game like a hawk with a hard on(an anatomical impossibility) and spend as much time as he does in consultations and have an actual job of any sort?

Rumor has it he stars in a new gay porn once a month so that he can afford to spend the other 29 days each month on internets patrol duty.

So if you notice he's not there on a particular day, chances are he's in the middle of getting bukkaked and stuffed.

diethx
04-28-2008, 09:37 PM
So if you notice he's not there on a particular day, chances are he's in the middle of getting bukkaked and stuffed.

By this guy:

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c224/Shelley81/Icons/Funny%20Icons/dumb_fuck.jpg

LG422
04-28-2008, 10:00 PM
I swear to God I thought it was a stillframe of the buggy/haunted house from "Beyond."

http://mag.awn.com/issue7.12/7.12images/peszko13_beyond.jpg

I actually was standing on a pile of sheetrock and other debris about 4 feet high on the Sunday of the Saints game last year when they were on their 4 game win streak after the 4 game losing streak. I had it taken and sent it to a friend at the game with the tag "Having a great time! Wish you were here!" Were they gutting their house in that movie and attacked by ghostly toxic mold? :wasntme:

Some Rogue
04-28-2008, 10:01 PM
Some Rogue = Xatier? Xatier seems like you, just a bit more sensored because of being on the officials.

How the fuck do you get off calling the same guy I mentioned a jerk and not have it pulled? All I said was the guy should apply to be a GM because he loves to nerf stuff....yet mine is an attack on him.

Stanley Burrell
04-28-2008, 10:20 PM
I actually was standing on a pile of sheetrock and other debris about 4 feet high on the Sunday of the Saints game last year when they were on their 4 game win streak after the 4 game losing streak. I had it taken and sent it to a friend at the game with the tag "Having a great time! Wish you were here!" Were they gutting their house in that movie and attacked by ghostly toxic mold? :wasntme:

No.

LG422
04-28-2008, 10:37 PM
No.



Good cause everyone knows toxic mold is the greatest threat to the world next to global warming.

Stanley Burrell
04-28-2008, 10:41 PM
Oh, of course.

Allereli
04-29-2008, 12:05 AM
Good cause everyone knows toxic mold is the greatest threat to the world next to global warming.

:wtf:

Joe
04-29-2008, 03:45 AM
P.P.S. Are you an Emeradan Fan? If not put this BACK on topic away from the flames of myself and back towards the topic that being Emeradan and it's abuse of players.

Gonna pull their post for being off-topic? ;)

LG422
04-29-2008, 09:06 AM
Gonna pull their post for being off-topic? ;)


Censorship is the suppression of speech or deletion of communicative material which may be considered objectionable, harmful or sensitive, as determined by a censor.

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* Moral censorship is the means by which any material that contains what the censor deems to be of questionable morality is removed. The censoring body disapproves of what it deems to be the values behind the material and limits access to it. Pornography, for example, is often censored under this rationale. In another example, graphic violence resulted in the censorship of the "culturally, historically, or aesthetically significant" movie entitled "Scarface" originally completed in 1932.
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* Political censorship occurs when governments hold back secret information from their citizens. The logic is to prevent the free expression needed to rebel. Democracies do not officially approve of political censorship but often endorse it privately.[citation needed] Any dissent against the government is thought to be a “weakness” for the enemy to exploit.[citation needed] Campaign tactics are also often kept secret: see the Watergate scandal.
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Wiecz&#243;r Wrocławia" - Daily newspaper of Wrocław, People's Republic of Poland, March 20-21-21, 1981, with censor intervention on first and last pages --- under the headlines "Co zdarzyło się w Bydgoszczy?" (What happened in Bydgoszcz?) and "Pogotowie strajkowe w całym kraju" (Country-wide strike alert). The censor had removed a section regarding the strike alert; hence the workers in the printing house blanked out an official propaganda section. The right-hand page also includes a hand-written confirmation of that decision by the local "Solidarność" Trade Union.
Wiecz&#243;r Wrocławia" - Daily newspaper of Wrocław, People's Republic of Poland, March 20-21-21, 1981, with censor intervention on first and last pages --- under the headlines "Co zdarzyło się w Bydgoszczy?" (What happened in Bydgoszcz?) and "Pogotowie strajkowe w całym kraju" (Country-wide strike alert). The censor had removed a section regarding the strike alert; hence the workers in the printing house blanked out an official propaganda section. The right-hand page also includes a hand-written confirmation of that decision by the local "Solidarność" Trade Union.

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Copy approval is the right to read and amend an article, usually an interview, before publication. Many publications refuse to give copy approval but it is increasingly becoming common practice when dealing with publicity anxious celebrities. Picture approval is the right given to an individual to choose which photos will be published and which will not. Robert Redford is well known for insisting upon picture approval. Writer approval is when writers are chosen based on whether they will write flattering articles or not. Hollywood publicist Pat Kingsley is known for banning certain writers who wrote undesirably about one of her clients from interviewing any of her other clients. and as of July 2006, is almost totally invisible throughout the internet, both in English and French, and does not appear even on Foucault-specialized websites..

Asha
04-29-2008, 09:34 AM
No pull that one instead.
Plaigiary (http://www.censorart.com/) is probably worse than than anything your no-sense posts would ever be pulled for.

Latrinsorm
04-29-2008, 10:57 AM
I am maybe one of the only people on here that has an avatar that is actually of them.That's a racist remark against butterflies and I for one won't tolerate it.
Have you ever gone back and reread your posts and thought just how much of your life you pissed away here..being nasty to someone, often for something so utterly petty, your own mother would hate to admit to you as her own.IRONY.

Stanley Burrell
04-29-2008, 11:12 AM
IRONY

...Metallurgy?

http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/7205/24bitsteelgolemtpformetra7.jpg

Indeed, that is a toilet paper roll of scrap metal used by ancient steel golems of Auld.

Senglent
04-29-2008, 03:33 PM
ok heres one from today that annoyed the hell out of me from Em. Mine and another post got pulled for this.

I have removed the post copied below from the Developer's Corner - Empaths topic for being off-topic. If you'd like to discuss your post, you can do so via email.

Please check out the policy for posting to the GemStone IV Forum, which you can find by clicking the Forum Policies link in the upper right corner of our Forums pages. We've come up with these guidelines so that members will know our forum etiquette as well as ensure that our forums remain a fun, friendly place where members can post ideas and ask for information without worrying about being harassed or intimidated.

If you have any questions about my action in removing your message, please don't hesitate to email me so we can clarify the issue to your satisfaction.

Sincerely,

~
GM Emeradan
GS4-EMERADAN@PLAY.NET
GemStone IV Forums
~
"Ceiling Cat."
~
GemStone IV: One MMORPG to Rule Them All.
==== BEGIN COPY OF POST ====
Forum: GemStone IV
Category: Empaths
Topic: Developer's Corner - Empaths
Msg#: 2775
Subject: Re: Ill Empaths

I'll thank you not to put words in my mouth.

~
GM Emeradan
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you can look up the proof on PC of Em typing (ok not saying , right but wrong on a technicality) just that. For shame for the bold face lie Em for shame. (now I could be wrong and it could be a very nicely doctored piece, but there are a couple of them so.....)

I believe the stated reason was for a site that used vulgarity? and was unacceptable; understandable reason. So i think the rebutal is kind of uncalled for.

Aoisura Clan
Senglent and his wayward Kin
==== END COPY OF POST ====

Then I told him nice all that trouble to keep from getting caught with your foot in your mouth. and I then got this.

Not particularly. The accusation was that I stated that, "Posting links to the PC, according to Emeradan, is against forum rules." In no email or post have I ever stated that posting links to the PC was against Forum policy. I have, however, specifically stated that posting external links to vulgarity is a violation of Forum policies. This fact remains true.

If you have further concerns about this or any other Forum policy, my email inbox is open.

Regards,
GM Emeradan


Yeah I was willing to give Em a chance now I have to agree with most of the peoples views on him. what a douchebag

Joe
04-29-2008, 03:54 PM
Semantical arguments. Sheesh.

Senglent
04-29-2008, 04:12 PM
yeah basically lets double talk and back pedal like hell so I don't look like the power tripping douchebag that I am was how I view this. even sent him an email along those lines and he did not argue that point one bit.

What a sad little puppet

AnticorRifling
04-29-2008, 04:16 PM
Is English your first language?

Crazy Bard
04-29-2008, 04:19 PM
Is English your first language?

Impossible.

Tea & Strumpets
04-29-2008, 04:27 PM
Is English your first language?

This is internet n00b and no one has to punctuate or use capitalization and if you point it out it is missing you are n00b if you no understand you stupid

Methais
04-29-2008, 04:45 PM
Not particularly. The accusation was that I stated that, "Posting links to the PC, according to Emeradan, is against forum rules." In no email or post have I ever stated that posting links to the PC was against Forum policy. I have, however, specifically stated that posting external links to vulgarity is a violation of Forum policies. This fact remains true.

Nice catch 22 there Emeradan. Everyone knows it's impossible to link to anything on the PC without vulgarity being involved.

Motherfucker dick pussy snot and shit good night! Good night suck my dick, bye bye!

http://www.mediaknows.com/pics/renegade/clip_6.jpg

LG422
04-29-2008, 06:53 PM
Nice catch 22 there Emeradan. Everyone knows it's impossible to link to anything on the PC without vulgarity being involved.

Motherfucker dick pussy snot and shit good night! Good night suck my dick, bye bye!

http://www.mediaknows.com/pics/renegade/clip_6.jpg


I think that rationale pretty much puts the whole internet off limits to link on the officals.

Parkbandit
04-29-2008, 07:13 PM
This is internet n00b and no one has to punctuate or use capitalization and if you point it out it is missing you are n00b if you no understand you stupid


HAHA, YOU CAPITALIZED THE FIRST WORD!

Conformist.