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Gan
04-14-2008, 07:58 AM
By JONATHAN KELLERMAN
April 14, 2008; Page A15


Most discussions about the rising cost of health care emphasize the need to get more people insured. The assumption seems to be that insurance – rather than the service delivered by doctor to patient – is the important commodity.

But perhaps the solution to much of what currently plagues us in health care – rising costs and bureaucracy, diminishing levels of service – rests on a radically different approach: fewer people insured.

You don't need to be an economist to understand that any middleman interposed between seller and buyer raises the price of a given service or product. Some intermediaries justify this by providing benefits, such as salesmanship, advertising or transport. Others offer physical facilities, such as warehouses. A third group, organized crime, utilizes fear and intimidation to muscle its way into the provider-consumer chain, raking in hefty profits and bloating cost, without providing any benefit at all.

The health insurance model is closest to the parasitic relationship imposed by the Mafia and the like. Insurance companies provide nothing other than an ambiguous, shifty notion of "protection." But even the Mafia doesn't stick its nose into the process; once the monthly skim is set, Don Whoever stays out of the picture, but for occasional "cost of doing business" increases. When insurance companies insinuate themselves into the system, their first step is figuring out how to increase the skim by harming the people they are allegedly protecting through reduced service.

Insurance is all about betting against negative consequences and the insurance business model is unique in that profits depend upon goods and services not being provided. Using actuarial tables, insurers place their bets. Sometimes even the canniest MIT grads can't help: Property and casualty insurers have collapsed in the wake of natural disasters.

Health insurers have taken steps to avoid that level of surprise: Once they affix themselves to the host – in this case dual hosts, both doctor and patient – they systematically suck the lifeblood out of the supply chain with obstructive strategies. For that reason, the consequences of any insurance-based health-care model, be it privately run, or a government entitlement, are painfully easily to predict. There will be progressively draconian rationing using denial of authorization and steadily rising co-payments on the patient end; massive paperwork and other bureaucratic hurdles, and steadily diminishing fee-recovery on the doctor end.

Some of us are old enough to remember visiting the doctor and paying him/her directly by check or cash. You had a pretty good idea going in what the service was going to cost. And because the doctor had to look you in the eye – and didn't need to share a rising chunk of his profits with an insurer – the cost was likely to be reasonable. The same went for hospitals: no $20 aspirins due to insurance-company delay tactics and other shenanigans. Few physicians became millionaires, but they lived comfortably, took responsibility for their own business model, and enjoyed their work more.

Several years ago, I suffered a sports injury that necessitated an MRI. The "fee" for a 20-minute procedure was over $3,000. My insurance company refused to pay, so I informed the radiologist that I'd be footing the bill myself. Immediately, the "fee" was cut by two thirds. And the doctor was tickled to get it.

A few highly technical and complex procedures that need to amortize the purchase of extremely expensive hardware will be out of reach for any but the wealthiest patient. For that extremely limited category, insurance might work. A small percentage of indigent individuals won't be able to afford even low-cost procedures. For them, government-funded county facilities are the answer, because any decent society takes care of the weakest among us. But a hefty proportion of health-care services – office visits, minor surgeries – would be affordable to most Americans if the slice of the health-care dollar that currently ends up in the coffers of insurance companies was eliminated.

When I was in practice as a psychologist, I discussed fees up front with prospective patients, prior to their initial visit. People appreciated knowing what to expect and my bad debt rate was less than 1%. That allowed me to keep my charges reasonable and, on occasion, to lower them for less fortunate patients. And I loved my job because I was free to concentrate on what I went to school for: helping people, rather than filling out incomprehensible forms designed to discourage me from filing them in the first place.

Physicians and other providers need to liberate themselves from the Faustian bargain they've cut with the Mephistophelian suits who now run their professional lives. Because many doctors are loath to talk about money, they allowed themselves to perpetuate the fantasy that "insurance is paying." It isn't. There is no free lunch and no free physical exam.

If substantial numbers of health-care providers shook off the insurance monkey on their back, en masse, and the supply of providers was substantially increased by opening more medical schools, the result would be a more honest, cost-effective system benefiting everyone. Except the insurance companies.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120813453964211685.html?mod=opinion_main_comment aries
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I shoved this into the politics folder because its something we should consider as we look at candidates who seek to mandate that everyone have health insurance.

Daniel
04-14-2008, 09:40 AM
The premise may be correct in that having less insurance may make prices go down. However, we tend to forget that there is always a nebulous grey area in economics that occurs whenever prices or the market shifts.

This market correction is fine if we're talking about the third quarter profit margin for Quizno's, but it takes on a whole nother reality when we're talking about people's ability to receive critical health care.

Stanley Burrell
04-14-2008, 09:53 AM
Physicians and other providers need to liberate themselves from the Faustian bargain they've cut with the Mephistophelian suits who now run their professional lives. Because many doctors are loath to talk about money, they allowed themselves to perpetuate the fantasy that "insurance is paying." It isn't. There is no free lunch and no free physical exam.

I wonder if he realizes the truth of this statement aside from believing it at face value.

Gan
04-14-2008, 10:06 AM
The premise may be correct in that having less insurance may make prices go down. However, we tend to forget that there is always a nebulous grey area in economics that occurs whenever prices or the market shifts.
Elaborate?
By nebulous do you mean a shift along the price axis that demonstrates, in this case, a shortage in supply resulting from the decrease (p1 to p2 for instance)? The article eluded to the fact that this occurrence could be mitigated by increasing the supply of physicians.

The challenge it doesnt address is the increase in availability of facilities to accomodate the increase in demand (at least initially) a drop in price would represent. Thats not really nebulous though. Not to mention that other competetive industry must face the same challenge daily, why not healthcare?



This market correction is fine if we're talking about the third quarter profit margin for Quizno's, but it takes on a whole nother reality when we're talking about people's ability to receive critical health care.

If you're talking about the billions of dollars that represents the motivation for pharma and healthcare tech companies to sink huge investment into R&D then I agree. Reduce that feed of funding and R&D could or would feasably be reduced proportionately - and in some cases where pharma rushes the latest drug through trials and to market before learning the consequences of hasty testing - thats probably a good thing. I have mixed feelings about the consequences it would have on the tech side though. Because having profit as a motivator for advancement in technology where the end result benefits mankind is also a very good thing.

One thing I readily agree with is that prices can be sustained cheaper by cutting out the middle man. And also increasing the population of physicians and other healthcare professionals would not hurt.

Daniel
04-14-2008, 10:31 AM
Elaborate?
By nebulous do you mean a shift along the price axis that demonstrates, in this case, a shortage in supply resulting from the decrease (p1 to p2 for instance)? The article eluded to the fact that this occurrence could be mitigated by increasing the supply of physicians.

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In this case, the nebulous area I refer to would be the lag between the implementation of policy and the time it takes for the supply of physicians to increase.

You don't just will doctors into being, nor do you simply reallocate people into being physicians. It takes years of specialized training for someone to be a doctor and probably more years of experience to be a good doctor.

You would have to create an environment that encourages more people to become doctors. In reality I think this would mean educational subsidies, and other types of motivating factors that will take the better part of a decade to realize the benefits.

So how do you deal with this gap? Do you just leave people hanging in the wind? Do you just overly subsidize educational opportunities and hope you create a system that allows you to scale back at some point? If so, how do you do that without creating some sort of dependance and making the problem worse?

Then once you answer that rather difficult question, you have to ask yourself if the American people would stand for either over a substantial amount of time, which in today's age is something like 8 weeks.

Daniel
04-14-2008, 10:35 AM
Because having profit as a motivator for advancement in technology where the end result benefits mankind is also a very good thing.

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I wanted to reply to this seperately.

I agree what you say here is a good thing. However, I think it's a two sided coin. If and when profits can be coupled with the benefits of mankind it should. However, once you leave that door open you allow for the opposite to happen; that profits are a motivator for advancement and the end result is a detriment to mankind.

That is not something I support and something that is often glossed over by pure "capitalists".

Gan
04-14-2008, 10:37 AM
I wanted to reply to this seperately.

I agree what you say here is a good thing. However, I think it's a two sided coin. If and when profits can be coupled with the benefits of mankind it should. However, once you leave that door open you allow for the opposite to happen; that profits are a motivator for advancement and the end result is a detriment to mankind.

That is not something I support and something that is often glossed over by pure "capitalists".

/agreed

Gan
04-14-2008, 10:47 AM
In this case, the nebulous area I refer to would be the lag between the implementation of policy and the time it takes for the supply of physicians to increase.

You don't just will doctors into being, nor do you simply reallocate people into being physicians. It takes years of specialized training for someone to be a doctor and probably more years of experience to be a good doctor.

You would have to create an environment that encourages more people to become doctors. In reality I think this would mean educational subsidies, and other types of motivating factors that will take the better part of a decade to realize the benefits.

So how do you deal with this gap? Do you just leave people hanging in the wind? Do you just overly subsidize educational opportunities and hope you create a system that allows you to scale back at some point? If so, how do you do that without creating some sort of dependance and making the problem worse?

Then once you answer that rather difficult question, you have to ask yourself if the American people would stand for either over a substantial amount of time, which in today's age is something like 8 weeks.

Ahhh, allright. I can see your point now.

I think that you would have to implement this gradually - how I dont know.

I think you would find many doctors who would love to practice providing they did not have to put up with all the insurance BS. Furthermore I think that if you added the incentive of reducing the amount of exposure to insane malpractice suits (where its easire to settle now than to actually fight the frivilous suits).

Medical school is difficult to get through, so is residency, and then you start that steep learning curve to become an accomplished physician. When you add the insurance/healthcare headaches along with all the exposure to liability and malpractice, its no wonder becomming a doctor has lost a lot of its allure.

Latrinsorm
04-14-2008, 10:49 AM
My dad needed quadruple bypass surgery (and an appropriately long stay in the ICU and hospital proper) awhile back. Insurance covered it completely; not even a co-pay was required. I'm pretty sure the medical expenses involved (or even a third of them) were not something my family could pay out of pocket.

I guess my point is I'd like Jonathan Kellerman to "look me in the eye" and tell me my father should die so he can pay less for his MRI before he touts such a system.

Gan
04-14-2008, 10:54 AM
My dad needed quadruple bypass surgery (and an appropriately long stay in the ICU and hospital proper) awhile back. Insurance covered it completely; not even a co-pay was required. I'm pretty sure the medical expenses involved (or even a third of them) were not something my family could pay out of pocket.

I guess my point is I'd like Jonathan Kellerman to "look me in the eye" and tell me my father should die so he can pay less for his MRI before he touts such a system.

Our socialist brothers would like to thank you for having a father who is such a drain on our healtcare resources. Be it from not taking care of himself physically or through bad genetics - your family should be penalized through higher taxes or perhaps pre-screened so as prior authorization should have been necessary to determine if this expensive procedure should have been allocated in the first place.

Have a great day comrade.

Daniel
04-14-2008, 11:00 AM
I'm sure I understand the point you're trying to make here.

Latrinsorm
04-14-2008, 11:15 AM
Or instead of proposing a false dichotomy I could tell the distinguished Mr. Kellerman and the honorable Chairman Mao that they're both dickheads and go with a more reasonable plan like Sen. Obama's. Oh hey, and he's running for President too? What are the odds!!!

Gan
04-14-2008, 11:56 AM
Fancy that.

Stanley Burrell
04-14-2008, 01:22 PM
My dad needed quadruple bypass surgery (and an appropriately long stay in the ICU and hospital proper) awhile back. Insurance covered it completely; not even a co-pay was required. I'm pretty sure the medical expenses involved (or even a third of them) were not something my family could pay out of pocket.

I guess my point is I'd like Jonathan Kellerman to "look me in the eye" and tell me my father should die so he can pay less for his MRI before he touts such a system.

He also didn't live in the State of Florida. Trust me.

Back
04-15-2008, 03:57 PM
Ok, kinda related... Frontline tonight is called Sick Around the World (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/sickaroundtheworld/)


Four in five Americans say the U.S. health care system needs “fundamental” change. Can the U.S. learn anything from the rest of the world about how to run a health care system, or are these nations so culturally different from us that their solutions would simply not be acceptable to Americans? FRONTLINE correspondent T.R. Reid examines first-hand the health care systems of other advanced capitalist democracies--UK, Germany, Switzerland, Japan and Taiwan--to see what tried and tested ideas might help us reform our broken health care system.

Clove
04-15-2008, 04:27 PM
Ok, kinda related... Frontline tonight is called Sick Around the World (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/sickaroundtheworld/)
FRONTLINE correspondent T.R. Reid examines first-hand the health care systems of other advanced capitalist democracies--UK, Germany, Switzerland, Japan and Taiwan--to see what tried and tested ideas might help us reform our broken health care system.Define irony.