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Raffles
04-14-2008, 07:27 AM
okay, so after reading through all the recent complaints about empaths and their general behavior I thought i'd bring one of mine out of her 3yr sabbatical and head to TSC and OMG what is going on?

I like the fact that there are two places now easily identifiable as healing stations so my girl can move if the characters around her are being annoying and still continue healing if she wants to.

I'm wondering if it's the acorns? All those bumps to the head have finally kicked in and caused cerebral damage to 90% of the healers?

While i will never condone the needless aggravation caused by the script Tayre insisted on using (despite his earlier strong feelings towards script healers) I'm shocked at the ridiculous behavior of some of the empaths in TSC, the bitching, the gossiping the OOC interactions and their general attitude :puzzled: What happened? I'm positive it wasn't always like this.

On the flip side I think that some of the press that they're getting maybe uncalled for, for example why does everyone have such a problem with the Empaths just healing and not hunting? There is a title option of 'pacifist' available to them and i can't see any problem with a non-hunting healer, after all rogues don't have to hunt either to learn, they can 'sit on their asses all day' and pick boxes and i know a good few clerics that solely go out on rescue/raise missions.

The game isn't just about hunting stuff (or at least it shouldn't be) and for a player healing can stretch your fingers too, okay your characters not traveling but equally your not just sitting tapping a 'kill' macro all day.

Is it just the 'silly girls' that have caused this general back lash of feeling toward the profession?

StrayRogue
04-14-2008, 08:10 AM
Empaths have always been like that.

Sweets
04-14-2008, 08:26 AM
When I started out as an empath, I learned in TSC. It wasn't always the mess it is now. I stopped by the other day and couldn't stand to be there for two minutes. They were chanting something about TSC being the only place to get a heal. It looks like everyone with a brain and a want to roleplay has pulled up stakes and moved on. I have nothing against empaths that only heal. It's their perogative. I do have a problem with ooc antics and just plain stupid behaviour. They're making Medicatrixrayah look sane and good at roleplay.

Sylph
04-14-2008, 08:59 AM
My little n00b has been resting in TSC mostly but I don't bother listening to the natter ... I just watch flicks whilst I unfry.

Some Rogue
04-14-2008, 09:35 AM
90% of the empaths in the game are not in TSC. You're just stereotyping all empaths as stupid because of the small percentage you see there.

A majority of the population of the game itself and The Landing particularly is retarded.

TSC and the small park is what happens when you get a big group of retards together all in one place. It's not specific to empaths. Look at any merchant event.

TheEschaton
04-14-2008, 10:00 AM
Yeah, most of the older, more sane players, have abandoned The Landing.

Stanley Burrell
04-14-2008, 10:02 AM
Yeah, most of the older, more sane players, have abandoned The Landing.

Quantum Field Theory.

Suppa Hobbit Mage
04-14-2008, 10:40 AM
I keep hearing about empaths learning to heal properly. WTF is there to learn? It's not like it is hard and requires rigorous mentoring and studious attention to detail.

CrystalTears
04-14-2008, 10:46 AM
I keep hearing about empaths learning to heal properly. WTF is there to learn? It's not like it is hard and requires rigorous mentoring and studious attention to detail.
When "older" healers drop dead from healing someone it's because they don't know how to heal.

Latrinsorm
04-14-2008, 11:13 AM
OMG what is going on? There have always been some idiot healers. The recent internecine conflict has encouraged some of them to be even bigger idiots (Tealcie, Medica, etc.).
Yeah, most of the older, more sane players, have abandoned The Landing.And Vaalor, and Illistim, and Icemule, and Teras, and...

Allereli
04-14-2008, 11:21 AM
pocket empaths ftw

Elvenlady
04-14-2008, 11:50 AM
:yeahthat:

I tried for a while to play my empath in the more crowded areas and hated every minute of it. She will now remain in hiding and heal only those who know where she sits.

Nilandia
04-14-2008, 12:46 PM
I keep hearing about empaths learning to heal properly. WTF is there to learn? It's not like it is hard and requires rigorous mentoring and studious attention to detail.
Like CT mentioned, seeing empaths overheal who should know better.

It also depends on the situation and priorities. I shift my methods of healing entirely during invasions because it's now my job to get people out to fight again as soon as possible, for example. Working triage, I do have to pay attention to detail, because I take so many wounds so quickly that it becomes very easy to get in over my head. I carry around a lot of herbs to help things go faster, since it's now faster for me to munch on an herb than cast the spell, and I'm constantly watching my blood while keeping an eye out for more people that need help.

Gretchen

Raffles
04-14-2008, 01:28 PM
90% of the empaths in the game are not in TSC. You're just stereotyping all empaths as stupid because of the small percentage you see there.

Yes i should of made it clear i was talking specifically about the empaths at TSC (hence the acorns...)

SpiffyJr
04-14-2008, 01:37 PM
You know what I find funny? Healing classes in most every game is the least played of any class. In GSIV, that's definitely not the case. I wonder why... (no really, I do)

Gnomad
04-14-2008, 02:31 PM
My empath got his start way back when healing at the GY crypt and the AI foyer.

I wonder how often empaths are there these days.

Khariz
04-14-2008, 02:54 PM
You know what I find funny? Healing classes in most every game is the least played of any class. In GSIV, that's definitely not the case. I wonder why... (no really, I do)

Because GS is built around the idea of roleplaying and socialization. The people who like to do those things are drawn to being empaths because they get to sit around town all day and socialize. For a healer-only empath, GS is a social chatroom.

Note: I'm not trying to stereotype empaths, I'm just saying that there are reasons why healers in GS are more appealing than in other games. The fact that they can be KICK ASS offensively doesn't hurt either. Most healers in other games are cripples when it comes to offense.

Nilandia
04-14-2008, 03:29 PM
My empath got his start way back when healing at the GY crypt and the AI foyer.

I wonder how often empaths are there these days.
I haven't been to either in years, but I'd bet that there's probably an empath at the crypt most times, but almost never one in the AI.

Gretchen

Suppa Hobbit Mage
04-14-2008, 04:06 PM
Last few times I went through the crypt it was desolate.

SpiffyJr
04-14-2008, 05:23 PM
Because GS is built around the idea of roleplaying and socialization. The people who like to do those things are drawn to being empaths because they get to sit around town all day and socialize. For a healer-only empath, GS is a social chatroom.

Note: I'm not trying to stereotype empaths, I'm just saying that there are reasons why healers in GS are more appealing than in other games. The fact that they can be KICK ASS offensively doesn't hurt either. Most healers in other games are cripples when it comes to offense.

That's a very valid (and probably true) point.

CrystalTears
04-14-2008, 06:10 PM
My empath got his start way back when healing at the GY crypt and the AI foyer.
When I started as an empath, healing was done all over the place. At the healer's tent, at the gate, TSC, AI, graveyard crypt, misty caverns, the well and the cul de sac. I have no idea why people are insisting on having only one place for healing.

The last time I had someone hunt near the GY crypt, no one was there. I spent 20 minutes waiting for someone to WALK BY just to find a way to get the gate open to get out.


I wonder how often empaths are there these days.
Sadly, no one. Then again, AI isn't setup the same anymore so it's not as easy to find a safe spot to sit. Do people hunt there still? The times I've run through to go to the crystal, I didn't see anyone.

Amaron
04-14-2008, 07:38 PM
I do not think one of the main arguements is that there are two healing spots.

My main issue is that some of the worse OOC empaths are now at the gate and they take wounds without asking or they cannot take no for an answer when they ask you and you decline.

A few of them NEVER leave the sanct so there is no way to even the score of your character is so inclined.

I turned all my characters to cold and changed my travel scripts to avoid the gate so that I could avoid this again.

I was at the gate for a bit of time yesterday and then at TSC. I found TSC much better now, not perfect, but better.

Dwarven Empath
04-14-2008, 07:39 PM
Are you guys talking about Plat?

Khariz
04-14-2008, 08:44 PM
Are you guys talking about Plat?

No.

Ignot
04-14-2008, 09:14 PM
Medicatrixrayah

okay so i see this name alot on these boards, is this a character's actual name? that has to be one of the worst names ever. i would rather see a name like axekiller or demonslayer then that mess. it hurts just to read it.

sorry for the intrusion

Khariz
04-14-2008, 09:28 PM
okay so i see this name alot on these boards, is this a character's actual name? that has to be one of the worst names ever. i would rather see a name like axekiller or demonslayer then that mess. it hurts just to read it.

sorry for the intrusion

Yes. That's the real name. I agree.

Blushy
04-15-2008, 12:34 AM
Yeah, she is retarded and she sucks.

Gnomad
04-15-2008, 02:24 AM
I have no idea why people are insisting on having only one place for healing.Aside from more guilds, AdG, Exp absorption boots, and other things luring players back to town rather than field healing, there are also far fewer players in a much bigger world. Now, you have empaths healing at "the one place" in Teras, Landing, Icemule, Illistim, River's Rest, Vaalor, and Solhaven.

Also, back in the day, there were a lot of characters between 10 and 30. That, combined with a smaller area meant hunting areas saw a lot more traffic, and it made sense for an empath to plop down in a node and start healing.

Now, travel scripts make any distance that isn't to RR, Teras, or by way of Zul insignificant. If there's no empath healing, why should a character hang out at the hunting area's node when TSC/etc is 5 seconds away? If there's nobody checking the node for healing, an empath has no reason to go out there.

Or, in other words, it's a different game now than it was then. The mechanics of healing are the same, but the world is completely different.