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Gan
12-19-2003, 11:05 AM
A friend linked me to an ebay entry and I just had to vent... who in their right mind would actually pay for this???
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3165156818&category=44 111
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Selling a suit of 8x masterful crit padded double leather. This is one of the most padded sets of double leather in the game not to mention it weighs only 8 pounds. Pretty rare to see a set of leather this padded on such a high enchant. Perfect armor for a runestaff user. This armor is estimated at about 150 million gs coins which translates to about $2,250 dollars at a rate of 15 dollars per 1 million gs coins. However I will set the minimum bid at $1,000. For more info send me an email at xxxxx.
Disclaimer: I am merely selling the time it took to aquire this fantasy armor, Simutronics is the sole owner of gemstone IV and all of its items.
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<coughs> yea, I've nothing better to do with a smooth grand than to..... gah! I looked up the other post by the same seller and he's putting up a 93 level sorc for 600. I think the thing that disturbs me the most is that someone will most likely pay for it in the end.

Wezas
12-19-2003, 11:13 AM
This armor is estimated at about 150 million gs coins

150mil? I don't know of any item in the game that's worth that much. I'd rather go for a self mana Spirit Strike two-hander that a friend of mine has, and it's a hell of alot cheaper.

StrayRogue
12-19-2003, 11:29 AM
Originally posted by Wezas

This armor is estimated at about 150 million gs coins

150mil? I don't know of any item in the game that's worth that much. I'd rather go for a self mana Spirit Strike two-hander that a friend of mine has, and it's a hell of alot cheaper.

You obviously know fuck all about the higher end of items in GS then, don't you. I can name atleast ten, off hand that are worth 150 mil + And they probably number in the hundreds as well.

theotherjohn
12-19-2003, 11:34 AM
there are several items I would drop 1000 on without blinking.


The sorc for 600 bucks is a very good deal if any are thinking about it. I know my sorc sold for much more.

StrayRogue
12-19-2003, 11:35 AM
Originally posted by theotherjohn
there are several items I would drop 1000 on without blinking.


Here here. If I had the money that is ;)

Caramia
12-19-2003, 11:35 AM
Anyone who pays real money, which can be saved or used for bills, for nothing more than some computerized coding that only exists in a game--and which will be broken and need repair once breakage rolls in, is a fool.

StrayRogue
12-19-2003, 11:37 AM
Well I see it like this: How much do you pay for your level of enjoyment, be it drugs, computer games, whatever? GS itself, as you describe it, is us paying money for lines of code. If my level of enjoyment is enhanced by spending a lil extra cash I happen to have (by spending more money on a hobby), so be it. I know I can earn $15 quicker in reality than 1 million in GS.

theotherjohn
12-19-2003, 11:39 AM
Originally posted by Caramia
Anyone who pays real money, which can be saved or used for bills, for nothing more than some computerized coding that only exists in a game--and which will be broken and need repair once breakage rolls in, is a fool.

You are paying real money to play the game so STFU

Shalla
12-19-2003, 01:35 PM
Originally posted by StrayRogue
Well I see it like this: How much do you pay for your level of enjoyment, be it drugs, computer games, whatever? GS itself, as you describe it, is us paying money for lines of code. If my level of enjoyment is enhanced by spending a lil extra cash I happen to have (by spending more money on a hobby), so be it. I know I can earn $15 quicker in reality than 1 million in GS.

Gemstone is an addiction after all. Unfortunately.. So is shopping.

Czeska
12-19-2003, 01:39 PM
It's all a matter of how much RL cash your hobby is worth to you.
GS is NOT worth $1000 for armor.... to me.
Now spending that on an awesome plasma monitor to play GS on? Hmm.. mebbe ;)

Shalla
12-19-2003, 01:49 PM
Originally posted by theotherjohn

Originally posted by Caramia
Anyone who pays real money, which can be saved or used for bills, for nothing more than some computerized coding that only exists in a game--and which will be broken and need repair once breakage rolls in, is a fool.

You are paying real money to play the game so STFU

I concur. except for the STFU. I spend $60 a month on gemstone, and more on occasion. I spend alot of time advancing my characters, and acquiring items that suits my character well. I personally do not want to sell my character, or buy one. But I am not condoning anybody for considering their time in gemstone as an investment, or simply wanting the money back that they have spent if they wish to leave.

I don't see the point of buying a level 93 character however, when the best of times are spent leveling. OR maybe someone wants to buy a 93 train character to protect their younger character? To bully others? An investment to sell in the future? Or to roleplay period.

Although, I don't see much roleplayers in gs prime, and most time are spent hunting as well. If you're going to buy a 93 train character for roleplay.. I would much rather have it in platinum service, simply because of it's environment.


[Edited on 12-19-2003 by Lady Shalla]

AnticorRifling
12-19-2003, 02:04 PM
If the wife wouldn't kill me I'd consider dropping a G on that armor. Right I'm just in 6x decent crit padded doubles :cool:

Shalla
12-19-2003, 02:11 PM
Originally posted by AnticorRifling
If the wife wouldn't kill me I'd consider dropping a G on that armor. Right I'm just in 6x decent crit padded doubles :cool:

Yeah, I so want that armor. Weeellll.. If someone wants to buy me that awesome armor for christmas.. :D I most certainly would not think they're crazy for spending real cash for that reason. :saint:

longshot
12-19-2003, 02:15 PM
I know I can earn $15 quicker in reality than 1 million in GS.

Aren't you out of sperm and plasma yet?

Go clean the communal bathroom of your dirty hippy compund...
:thumbsdown:


Edited for formatting

[Edited on 12-19-2003 by longshot]

Shalla
12-19-2003, 02:37 PM
Eew gross! People actually do that for a living?

Chyrain
12-20-2003, 12:07 AM
i actually bought my first GS thing off ebay this week. I figured what the hell? I've got a few dollars burning a hole in my pocket, might as well.

Now if only people would buy the crap I have in the game, I'll be much happier, dammit.

Latrinsorm
12-20-2003, 12:31 AM
Originally posted by Lady Shalla
Eew gross! People actually do that for a living?

Why not? It's not like he's got anything better to do with his sperm and plasma. (drum hit, please)

Caramia
12-20-2003, 01:25 AM
Indeed Czeska, and others who agree. The purchase certainly isn't a long term investment. It's likely to break or otherwise get lost. Not like you can insure it and replace it or the money you spent, if the loss was due to natural incidences and not a game glitch.

Lyonis
12-20-2003, 05:17 AM
Originally posted by Caramia
Indeed Czeska, and others who agree. The purchase certainly isn't a long term investment. It's likely to break or otherwise get lost. Not like you can insure it and replace it or the money you spent, if the loss was due to natural incidences and not a game glitch.

Why is what you deem appropriate the standard for others? As long as you take care of what you’re responsible for, how much you spend on your hobbies is your own business. As long as your spending habits aren’t putting your family on the street, I don’t see what the big deal is.

Lyonis,
House Dreadnaught

Caiylania
12-20-2003, 05:43 AM
Personally, I wouldn't spend that much for any game. I have dropped a few grand on my horse-back riding though, so it is all in what you want to do with your money.

But when breakage goes live, eventually that armor will go bye bye. That is also why I don't waste alters on weapons or armor.

StrayRogue
12-20-2003, 10:53 AM
You're a fucking idiot Longshot. Blood is a free donation in my country. Sperm can only be donated once every three months.

Miss X
12-20-2003, 10:59 AM
Originally posted by StrayRogue
You're a fucking idiot Longshot. Blood is a free donation in my country.

Oh come on now, you get a sugary drink for your trouble..... :lol:

StrayRogue
12-20-2003, 11:00 AM
Heh, actually, due to my membership with Biotrax, I got sixty quid for a brain scan the other day ;)

Miss X
12-20-2003, 11:03 AM
Originally posted by StrayRogue
Heh, actually, due to my membership with Biotrax, I got sixty quid for a brain scan the other day ;)

You know thats like a years worth of radiation in one scan right? Man, I get so freaked out just having X-Rays cos of radiation!!

StrayRogue
12-20-2003, 11:04 AM
Heh, thankfully I've only ever had to have three X-rays before :D

Gan
12-20-2003, 02:20 PM
If I had a grand that I was just going to blow... I'd be in Vegas.

Otherwise, its put into savings bonds for my little boy or into the market in one of my mutual funds...
I perceive this as being a better ROI than sinking it into Gemstone.

Caramia
12-20-2003, 05:23 PM
Originally posted by Lyonis
Why is what you deem appropriate the standard for others? As long as you take care of what you’re responsible for, how much you spend on your hobbies is your own business. As long as your spending habits aren’t putting your family on the street, I don’t see what the big deal is.

Lyonis,
House Dreadnaught

Lyonis,

Learn to read and keep up with things. I've never said my standard is the one standard, I've expressed an opinion. You don't like it, that's fine, I'm still entitled to state it.

I'd spend $1,000 on something collectible -and- tangible, something that will grow in it's investment.

I'd spend $1,000 on luxuries, if I had it, like a mini-vacation or taking 10 friends out to dinner at a very nice restaurant. What I get from both is memories that will long be pleasant, and hopefully an experience worth remembering forever.

Unlike a piece of computer code that stands a very good chance of breaking at some point or getting lost. And won't be replaced if it's not the game's fault. Unlike my antique Rollei camera that is insured. Or my car.

If people want to blow their money on some fictional item, that's their choice and I hope they're happy with it.

Killer Kitten
12-20-2003, 06:21 PM
Originally posted by Miss X
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You know thats like a years worth of radiation in one scan right? Man, I get so freaked out just having X-Rays cos of radiation!!

Just to be totally off topic... When a radiograph is being taken the thing in the room that gets the least irradiated is the part of the patient that is being shot. The dangerous thing about x-rays is the scatter radiation that bounces off the patient, the casette, the tabletop, and everything else defined by the little light square that indicates the target area. Any good technician will collumate as tightly as possible to minimize that area. So as long as you use a lead drape on those portions of your anatomy the doctor isn't interested in the exposure is minimal. I have to hold animals for pictures all the time and my dosimeter always comes back clean. Of course I gown up and wear gloves and a collar.
The extra arm growing out of my spine? Oh, always had that. <g>

Kimm/Tilone (I always wanted to be in pictures!)

Lyonis
12-20-2003, 07:52 PM
Originally posted by Caramia
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Lyonis,

Learn to read and keep up with things. I've never said my standard is the one standard, I've expressed an opinion. You don't like it, that's fine, I'm still entitled to state it.

I'd spend $1,000 on something collectible -and- tangible, something that will grow in it's investment.

I'd spend $1,000 on luxuries, if I had it, like a mini-vacation or taking 10 friends out to dinner at a very nice restaurant. What I get from both is memories that will long be pleasant, and hopefully an experience worth remembering forever.

Unlike a piece of computer code that stands a very good chance of breaking at some point or getting lost. And won't be replaced if it's not the game's fault. Unlike my antique Rollei camera that is insured. Or my car.

If people want to blow their money on some fictional item, that's their choice and I hope they're happy with it.


I find it hilarious that you speak of someone spending that money as wasting it. That thousand dollars, which is a lot to you, may not mean much to whoever is buying stuff on ebay. It could be equivalent to you buying a movie ticket. You spend/waste some of your money on a fictional world or you wouldn’t be here posting, so why is spending more than you wrong? Or you don’t spend your money on a fictional world and you just spend time commenting on it, which is truly sad. The sooner you come to the realization that you are no better than the rest of us that spend time in the world of GS, the happier you’ll become. If you can think of all of these worthwhile things to do, then why aren’t you out doing them?

I’ll agree with you though, we’re all entitled to an opinion. Your problem is you like shoving yours down people’s throats.

Lyonis,
House Dreadnaught

StrayRogue
12-20-2003, 08:00 PM
To each their own. If someone wants to spend their money on a game, a line of code, a photograph, a rugby shirt, a pen, or whatever, fine. Its their money. Condemning people for what they take and interest in, for what they love, is just like condemning them for having different coloured skin.

HarmNone
12-20-2003, 09:03 PM
Heh. I just did the absurd, in all probability.

My grandmother, for as long as I can remember, has dreamed of owning an authentic Japanese wedding kimono. I happened to find one, made in 1925 and in pristine condition. I bought it on the spot.

Doing so set me back a penny or two, but it is well worth the money spent from my point of view. :D

HarmNone

AnticorRifling
12-20-2003, 09:20 PM
Originally posted by StrayRogue
coloured

You spelled colored, coloured. You're a freak. :cool:


I would still drop a G on some armor if I had the cash just because currently GS is my big hobby and I like getting things that make my hobby more enjoyable.

Latrinsorm
12-20-2003, 09:40 PM
Originally posted by HarmNone
Heh. I just did the absurd, in all probability.

My grandmother, for as long as I can remember, has dreamed of owning an authentic Japanese wedding kimono. I happened to find one, made in 1925 and in pristine condition. I bought it on the spot.

Doing so set me back a penny or two, but it is well worth the money spent from my point of view. :D

HarmNone

Dude, where'd you get a kimono like that for two pennies? :D

HarmNone
12-20-2003, 09:44 PM
Heh. They were very big pennies. :D

HarmNone needed a wheelbarrow to haul those two pennies

DCSL
12-20-2003, 10:41 PM
I spend alot on my hobbies too. I, in fact, bought something for GS off ebay once. Well... I tried to, but someone else won, but then I bought one of the items in the package deal from the guy that won, so... well.. I don't know if it counts, but yeah.

And I'll spend for my other hobbies too. I know I've burnt at least a couple of hundred on my Mage Knight figures, and don't even get me started on my books. At one point, for half a year or so, I was spending 1k on books a month, at the very least.

Other people surely see that all as a waste. I could be saving up to buy a house or um.. other stuff. But it makes me happy and that's all that matters to me, whether what makes me happy is tangible and sensible or not.

(Edited because I can't type well at all lately.)

[Edited on 12-21-2003 by DCSL]

Caramia
12-21-2003, 04:49 AM
Originally posted by Lyonis
I’ll agree with you though, we’re all entitled to an opinion. Your problem is you like shoving yours down people’s throats.

Lyonis,
House Dreadnaught

Hello pot, this is kettle. ;)

Caramia
12-21-2003, 04:52 AM
You all way overreact to my comments. I guess I hit a nerve.

HarmNone, I bet that kimono is not only absolutely beautiful, I bet it's treasured for a long, long time. And when the sad day comes that she is no longer around, may you look upon it with loving memories.

Back
12-21-2003, 05:12 AM
blah blah ad infinitum

Lyonis
12-21-2003, 05:14 PM
Originally posted by Caramia

Originally posted by Lyonis
I’ll agree with you though, we’re all entitled to an opinion. Your problem is you like shoving yours down people’s throats.

Lyonis,
House Dreadnaught

Hello pot, this is kettle. ;)

Just glad I got you to finnnaly admit it.

Lyonis,
House Dreadnaught

Overlord
12-22-2003, 01:07 AM
How bout some 10x 9/10 padded doubles, i'd say round 200 mil.

Caramia
12-22-2003, 01:35 AM
Originally posted by Lyonis
Just glad I got you to finnnaly admit it.

Lyonis,
House Dreadnaught

Well, if that's how you want to interpret it, no skin off my back. I look at it that you just confirmed you do so yourself! Besides, Skirmisher has pretty much addressed the same topic elsewhere. No need to hash it out in two places.

Lyonis
12-22-2003, 02:10 AM
Originally posted by Caramia

Originally posted by Lyonis
Just glad I got you to finnnaly admit it.

Lyonis,
House Dreadnaught

Well, if that's how you want to interpret it, no skin off my back. I look at it that you just confirmed you do so yourself! Besides, Skirmisher has pretty much addressed the same topic elsewhere. No need to hash it out in two places.

I just did confirm it on the condition that you yourself admit to it as well.

Lyonis,
House Dreadnaught

StrayRogue
12-22-2003, 02:20 AM
Originally posted by Overlord
How bout some 10x 9/10 padded doubles, i'd say round 200 mil.

Depends on the padding. No way would I pay over 20 million for any 10x item. And most usually the padding comes before the enchant. Ardwen's red armor (owned by Blueland I think now) isn't highly enchanted to my knowledge, yet is worth something like 4-500 million. The fog beatle armor, 9x incredibly crit padded brig, was only valued at 150 mil.

Overlord
12-22-2003, 03:42 AM
Well considering its 9/10 next to godly padding, and i have seen such armor sell for over 150 mil at private auctions. Not bad for 10x doubles i'd say.

AnticorRifling
12-22-2003, 08:07 AM
Ardwen sold the red armor? Bastard, he didn't know it yet but he was supposed to give it to me.

I could see dropping serious coins for items like that but the problem is I don't have the coins. It took an act of god for me to get ahold of my 6x decent crit doubles so I know going for that kind of armor is shooting for the moon. Besides my next purchase (yeah right) will be Sorrow.

StrayRogue
12-22-2003, 08:35 AM
I think he's just loaned him it. By the way Anticor, Sorrow is reserved for me :D Its actually none functional in the GS environment and needs to be fixed. I'm half way to buying it as well!! WOOO!!

Caiylania
12-22-2003, 08:48 AM
Lyonis,

Do you just feel a requirement to start arguments in every thread you post in? I haven't read one thread that you post in that didn't turn into a Lyonis VS who ever pissed him off thread.

Lyonis
12-22-2003, 03:25 PM
Originally posted by Caiylania
Lyonis,

Do you just feel a requirement to start arguments in every thread you post in? I haven't read one thread that you post in that didn't turn into a Lyonis VS who ever pissed him off thread.

I thought that's what we're supposed to do here? If this is the nice fuzzy folder then I apologize.

Lyonis,
House Dreadnaught

Caramia
12-22-2003, 05:42 PM
I thought it was a place to post about Nuisances and Annoyances... not become one.

Lyonis
12-22-2003, 06:12 PM
Originally posted by Caramia


Hello pot, this is kettle. ;)

Lyonis,
House Dreadnaught

Caiylania
12-22-2003, 06:20 PM
Originally posted by Lyonis

Originally posted by Caiylania
Lyonis,

Do you just feel a requirement to start arguments in every thread you post in? I haven't read one thread that you post in that didn't turn into a Lyonis VS who ever pissed him off thread.

I thought that's what we're supposed to do here? If this is the nice fuzzy folder then I apologize.

Lyonis,
House Dreadnaught

I didn't just say this folder/thread, now did I?

Lyonis
12-22-2003, 06:24 PM
Considering I've only posted in this folder and in the character complaint folder, which both fall in the Gemstone complaint folder, I don't see what I've done that's wrong. You obviously disagree with me and that's great, but I have the same right to post here as you do.


Lyonis,
House Dreadnaught

Caiylania
12-22-2003, 06:27 PM
I never said you don't. It just seems that you pick fights over minor issues to raise hackles. My humble opinion and I stated it.

Lyonis
12-22-2003, 06:40 PM
Originally posted by Caiylania
I never said you don't. It just seems that you pick fights over minor issues to raise hackles. My humble opinion and I stated it.

Well you're right, it is your opinion. I'd be a fool to say it didn't hold any truth because I do have an abrasive personality. Maybe I'll tone it down a little.

Lyonis,
House Dreadnaught

Caiylania
12-22-2003, 06:46 PM
:) Trust me, I have gotten into a few arguments and raised hackles. I have just learned not to look for em. Plenty come on their own.

Wethalhalas
12-24-2003, 08:48 AM
I love how people think that if you attack someone with your opinion, that you're justified "because it's your opinion."
It may be my opinion that blacks are the superior race, and that the white devil is evil and must be punished viciously... and all of you whites on this board are evil rapists...
But that's not a very tasteful thing to say, is it?

Overlord
12-24-2003, 06:09 PM
There are no "requirements" for an opinion... that kind of defeats the purpose. Theres nothing wrong with just tossing it out there, freedom of god damn speech.

{Edited To Add}
Etiquette is a different matter.

[Edited on 12-24-2003 by Overlord]